Let's have a fun thread for once.
Any "stolen" music from retro games you know based on real songs? Call them homages if you must.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4XsDQYDi4
ACE COMBAT 22 for the arcades has the closest and best Top Gun soundalikes ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpZSH-NVH4&list=PL8209DB81EEB656C8
I think Doom 1 and 2 has a whole fucking mess of ripped music.
the entire SoR2 soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8xnkxUNkM
Didn't Contra 3.on the SNES literally fucking steal the music from Predator on the last level?
I remember that clear as day when I was a kid.
I'm old and shit now, I can't br bothered to get that far in the game anymore.
Vega's theme is a rip off of the original Star Trek theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5rnm4rwSL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWSp5ijOOfk
>>3255478
>Vega theme
>Star Trek
Do you even Spain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuN8UIAjYM
>>3255528
Yeah but they stole the tune
>>3255478
kek, retard.
>>3255454
Holy shit Yuzo is a hackfraud.
>>3255528
Another one inspired by the same piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zU0XS06Hc0
>>3255532
Yes, a spanish music from the 20's was stolen off Star Trek.
>>3255536
You must be tone deaf bro.
>>3255553
And you seem to be full deaf.
>>3255552
They used a tune almost identical to the Star Trek theme and made it into a Spanish piece. The tune is nowhere in the music you posted.
>>3255557
If you can't recognise that the main tune from both pieces of music are identical or must be some kind of musical retard. Sorry.
>>3255562
What a huge faggot.
>>3255571
No you are
>>3255581
Fruity musical faggot.
>>3255331
Indeed they did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H3BB2gKKeY
Also turnabout is fair play (even though DOOM's sounds were stock, they still put a credit in to id for this song):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntiofG_3yF4
Easy Lover - Phil Collins & Philip Bailey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkRKT6T0QLg
vs.
Heliport theme - Double Dragon II: The Revenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBOeFElnITA&list=PL6BoklkwiyPBGePgYAYJMoA7qhL5Sf85X
>>3255469
No surprised, considering Tappy Iwase, who composed the original MGS theme, also worked on the soundtrack of Contra III: The Alien Wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8
Jetzons - Hard Times. The instrumental version is the Ice Cap Zone theme in Sonic 3.
Xenon 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-tiRnac2k
Assault on Precinct 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGME6jCwqw0
https://youtu.be/k1CrDuH5pPo
for comparison:
https://youtu.be/joq9WadIMxE
Sonic 2 had one that I can remember. Here's the Casino Night 2 Player music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsmSx_ECsYk
And here's the song that it sounds like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqXQLAwdf1c
the classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tffqG3zRLQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA
I've been waiting for this thread. Here are some similarities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ymKUd2Xkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8w8BVZv0_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ia71rCO55E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s94wX-H9hM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elBwam8vXj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1vwlTZ5EGQ
And then there's this, which is pretty much the same exact song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8a_Bvj3JcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80cXg7blkQ
FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9lQMHzSoQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kmkaY8TLBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csaUvkYOkLY
kek
>>3256612
Was playing this last week and thought the tune was really familiar
>>3255319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q2rOYEzx6A
This one isn't even funny, its just fucking Mob Rules!
here's one everyone knows, neon tiger's theme is just a rip of my michelle by guns n' roses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18dBU55S6P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McT7zQFeISI
STOP BULLYING KOSHIRO
>>3255319
It's called a "sample" you retard
>>3255767
I don't hear it at all
>>3256801
It really disappoints me when Nostalgiafags only know Koshiro from all the Sega composers when Sega had way better in-house composers than this hack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8it doesn't count since Brad Buxer just re-used it from his old band but still wanted to post it
>>3255623
Doesn't count since Brad Buxer was in that band and he just re-used it
>>3256561
I don't hear the Spring Yard example at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf_Lwe6p-Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7bDUpgLZBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTjh0mVzbRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCC0eXSAhYE
Alright, just in time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhCsdrZOtng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwhTPF278bw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Eo5kaHOLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATPLk559XY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcA_l6rsUO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fBvwuiWVHw
>>3257232
>Ristar
If you're referring to the drums they sound really different from that song
>>3257297
>Binary Land
A lot of older arcade games used classical music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNc7VdD-ink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o
Yes, I know that's actually from the Baroque era.
>>3257330
Castlevania 2 GB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_sBwJucegU&index=14&list=PL1C98B0A7CD0170CB
>>3257379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hifk5F5uJM
>>3256550
I've always sworn that parts of the final boss music from DKC ripped off the chorus from a Paula Abdul song. Maybe I'm retarded, but skip to 1:16 and judge for yourself:
http://youtu.be/mQU7ml26JVM
And 0:51 here just sounds like the same progression slowed way down:
https://youtu.be/RJ7J0SwK8fE
Heard this in a restaurant the other day, noticeably at about 1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWeTDy0z3H0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uazL8HejVJ8
>>3255754
WA1 is the greatest Morricone / spaghetti western tribute ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9VCHy4xLuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0dqQ-8FOII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0usroRVvfpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IpN3grKDI
>>3255319
Star foxes corneria stage music has exactly the same opening as the after burner ost
Streets of Rage 1 and 2 entries soundtrack is plagiarised and stolen.
But i still love it. Its still an amazing OST despite the guy being a huge HACK FRAUD.
3 is literal ear rape. Which is probably the result of him being told to stop plagiarizing music
Time Trax's theme on the Genesis may have been based on Donna Summer's "I Feel Love". But lots of disco songs sound like that, so maybe it's a coincidence.
https://youtu.be/6_IJYc9t3vQ?t=21m58s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2qI6UDD2uQ
>>3257784
>and for the mile run, 3 minutes, 38 seconds.
Excuse me?
the whole "XXX is a fraud" is so overblown.
It was common practice for game composers to recreate famous tracks with limited sound hardware.
Only when CD/streaming data became common it is a problem, like the whole Kenji Yamamoto fiasco.
>>3257801
>It was common practice for game composers to recreate famous tracks with limited sound hardware.
I thought it this was known, but apparently not.
Ya'll need to listen to more old music. As well as read interviews where some of these artists straight up admit where they got the music idea.
>>3257816
they're still technical geniuses so that fine with me
>>3257771
You mean you was born late 90s so much of the music sounded the same it ain't even funny. I was a teen in the 90s all we did was game and listen to music.
>>3257816
How does it damper your childhood. I ain't gonna start hating the music cuz it sounds like other music I liked as a kid. It's amazing how the music sounded and and how the games played.
>>3257323
That's funny. I posted this when I was tired and looking back I thought the Wham/Shinobi example was the weaker of the two.
Anyway the Ristar chorus (0:34), especially that lead-in to it, to me sounds like it was derived from the strings of the Soul II Soul chorus that appear after "Yellow is the color of sun rays" (1:33)
>>3257181
that is also a sonic 3 theme
>>3257584
Not him anon, but I agree - while the chord progression and style are completely different, the actual melody from Vega's theme seems to have been lifted almost entirely from the Star Trek theme.
A well publicised similar example would be the Australian band from the 80's Men at Work and their song Land Down Under. They lifted a melody from some folk song that I can't remember and had a flute play it. I'm sure both pieces of music don't sound similar at all but they were sued over the plagiarised melody and lost.
>>3257853
I was born in 88, m8. Koshiro's a hack.
>>3258757
Japanese are frauds who can't create anything new. Everything they do are poor copies of superior American works.
>mfw
BF3 - CT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVXcu6KSiq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QxGtXSa9E
Jim Power - YS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkkbWl9uOeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFHUnT4xp7g
>>3256801
In his defense he is one of the few composer for the MD that was capable of making patches that didn't sound like ear piercing shit.
>>3255528
I liked that very much.
>>3258830
What the fuck Hulsbeck? It's not like he was incapable of song writing.
>>3255601
Was itIDSPISPOPD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODB0H5TCfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITCriXMUKWw
Out Run music was heavily inspired by Naoya Matsuoka works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxEf4OKheNc
>>3255319
Only one that comes to mind is not exactly retro; the old theme to Metal Gear Solid. Come Snake Eater, they had to come up with a new theme because they found out it was ripping off this one Russian musical piece called 'Winter Road'
>>3257406
Sonic pre-dates that Janet Jackson song
>>3258898
Casiopea as well, although this particular track was recorded long after OutRun was made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHqVADsA9hs
>>3257465
That's not Sunset Riders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQK9LkDn5Gg
>>3257593
>3 is literal ear rape
bad opinion
>>3257816
>you thought the composers were geniuses
Most people never actually cared about the composers when they were kids so this is bullshit
Nobody ever thought "Wow that Takashi Tateishi guy is a great composer" they instead thought "WOW Mega Man 2 and other Capcom games have awesome music"
>>3257872
That's what I said
Brad Buxer(the keyboardist of The Jetzons and later producer/friend of Michael Jackson) went on to compose for Sonic 3(along with MJ and several others)
>>3258830
>BoF3 ripping of CT
That's honestly a shame considering BoF1's soundtrack wipes the floor with CT's
>>3257801
Bullshit
Sampling a few seconds here and there is fine
Ripping off a whole song is unacceptable and this rarely happened in the old days...far from "common practice"
>>3259752
>rarely
this very thread shows it was common as fuck
>>3259731
Staff wasn't even properly named back then, had nicknames at best.
A reason Yuzo Koshiro got wider fame is that he was one of the very few to have his complete name on title screens.
>>3257175
Oh. Well it sounded similar enough to me so I thought it was worth posting.
M1 Abrams Battle Tank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGft2zAKE7w&t=19s
Metallica - Am I Evil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB6Fa_pJqRQ&t=15s
>>3259867
It doesn't matter
No kid cared about who composed what
Only after growing up did we all look this shit up
Koshiro wasn't one of the few either it all depended from company to company
>>3259976
>Metallica - Am I Evil?
It's a Diamond Head song you utter pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVid_fLzN5g
>>3259997
show me other title screens that had "Music © jpcomposer name", from 16bit era and onward. It was more common for euro games (especially 8/16bit computers) to have staff fully named, but it was a rarity among japan games.
And some of us did have interest in devs. Some magazines did too, knowning who deved what.
Not erry one was as braindead as you (ツ)
Rare ripped the rhythm section of Hallowed Be Thy Name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J51LPlP-s9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XziA0L2zmBg
>>3259741
Hot opinions.
Never read anywhere about this one nor seen anything on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yycAmdAAVww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZclM2jZn8M
Anything by Black Sabbath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjHe4O_HlFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWMpQGLdHo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeTiLPcn3oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjUdfotc1yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfzxBpIKWOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXsa91D0NpA
>>3260030
Beginning sounds very similar to Diamond Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9udlJvbURM8
>>3260197
Games with very small teams at best like small eurogames and then the entire team is listed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xp5mnsx1A
>>3256648
Either way it's a fucking awesome song.
>>3258852
maybe if you are a retard who haven't played anything but crappy american games
>>3260238
>Black Sabbath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1VXbIjZqE
>>3260376 again
forgot to mention, skip to 4:24 for the most concrete comparison.
>>3255767
Sonic 2's soundtrack is basically arranged versions of Dreams Come True songs, because Masato Nakamura composed them.
>>3257848
>recreate famous tracks with limited sound hardware.
Creating eletronic music with MD hardware is the basic every sound engineer should know. It's easier to reproduce Black Box and make it sound good music than doing the same with Beethoven.
Koshiro is a hack and is sad to see so many nostalgiafags and dumb kids calling this pathetic fraud a genius.
When Maxis ripped Nintendo. This game introduced me to funk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7a6EK1aIFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwUHz6p1s4o
>>3260376
It's funny that anons didn't knew this piece. Anons only hear "nerd" music, like metal or series themes.
It's just like the graphical influences threads, where anons claimed anime invented Laputa and floating islands. Hell, one anon claimed Castleavnia ripped some anime when it just used greek columns.
>>3255601
These seem like a stretch. Really it's just that all metal sounds the fucking same.
The first few notes of Dr. Tongues' Castle of Terror theme from ZAMN are identical to the opening theme from The Shining albeit at a higher pitch and a faster tempo.
>>3260445
>metal
>nerd music
Full disclosure, I had known about Mars for some time now (had been dragged to symphony stuff at an early age, hated every minute of it back then but appreciate it now), BUT I never actually knew the name of it. Not until I was watching an interview with Black Sabbath, and Geezer Butler and Tony Iommi both mentioned the influence for the opening riff to the song Black Sabbath (which was Mars).
So, yea. The more you know, I suppose.
>>3255319
Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius (PSX / Saturn) music - Stage 1: That's the way I like it (HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TanMUToG-ss
>>3260475
All music from Parodius is covered from classical music other konami shooters or sometimes disco music.
>>3260410
lol no, MD sound was a nightmare for the non-initiated.
For everyone who is calling Koshiro a hack:
The SoR soundtracks may be plagiarized or done lazy. But all his other stuff like Ys 1 & 2, Bosconian, Revenge of the Shinobi, Super Adventure Island and ActRaiser 1 & 2 are bad?
>>3260738
I don't think he did actraiser 2
This is from 1979. I won't even post the game that uses it. You'll recognize it 12 seconds in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFlsEBkPxs
>>3260847
Koji Kondo must have really been into trippy 70s music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49Trz5Rc_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5969tl4-FUs
>>3260868
>>3260847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U34MFcJdGCo&feature=youtu.be
>>3260925
every composer uses samples and copies each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNKdRNELcdM
Here's an awfuly blatant one:
Mega Man X3 - Neon Tiger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnhpfTuMZyI
Guns 'n Roses - My Michelle
(Instrumental cover for better comparison)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOy_426YuSc
Other way around in this case, game OST came first.
agony (amiga)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9UTnUcyED0
dimmu borgir - sorgens kammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeQI949nIA
>>3255608
Fuck yes Easy Lover is rad as hell. They had good taste.
>>3257784
>This techno music sounds like stuff by one of the guys who pioneered the genre/method/sound
Seriously though I guess I can hear it in the bass line, but that's about it.
>>3258740
>Men at Work using Kookaburra
MaW used Kookaburra's main hook, but the apparent misconception at the time was that it was Public Domain when someone actually had the rights to it, kinda like Happy Birthday.
In any case you all are high as hell because there's no fucking Star Trek theme in that shit.
As for Koshiro, it should have been obvious that he sampled contemporary music for everything considering the goddamn intro theme is Sadness, but it was all good shit. People hate on SoR3 because he moved on to Acid/Jungle from House.
>>3260738
It seems they're plagiarized too, we just don't know from where.
Lego Island Information Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah4BeABKGZI
Van Halen's Pleasure Dome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNnZsHbxvYM
>>3263140
c u n 3 dayz
So how many of these are blatant Vanilla Ice-tier stealing, and how many of these are just music in general using similar melodies because convention is a thing? Because most of what has been posted is stretching it pretty far.
Oh I got one.
Rock Howard's theme in Garou:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWj8Cb7yieY
Specifically at the 0:50 mark.
Compare it to Robert Miles - Children:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5ca6Hsb2Q
more noticeable at the 2:04 mark.
>>3265602
I think some people get too liberal with the "this is 'stolen' from that" thing while forgetting that yes, most artists are inspired by other artists and reuse and alter what they like to create their own compositions so you will often hear similarities.
The track called "Underwater Rampart" from Battle Garegga uses the same chord progression as the track "Jupiter Jazz" from the Underground Resistance.
https://youtu.be/1BK5ACIbJRI?t=5m21s
https://youtu.be/xQv3dCkY2Tk
>>3260376
SMB3 Airship theme is literally Mars
>>3266940
Not retro, but make way for best version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6G_nFcAjDk
bump. amazing thread
>>3256612
wow!
>>3256801
>hack
Naw dog. Everything sounded like that back in the day. He clearly was trying to do early detroit techno stuff. Those dudes used all the same drum machines (roland shit) and samples.
1 of a million old skool rave mixes from 89 -92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9PM4LRgJc
From modulations (must watch electronic music doc)
https://youtu.be/rRKuJ-r-F-A?t=1089
Franky Knuckles and dudes like that pioneered that sound. It's kind of like how everyone sounds like Skrillex now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIdimVDuSEU
I wouldn't say the dude is a hack based on your criteria. He basically was like "wouldn't it be cool to make some Detroit house for this game". I think that's pretty cool.
Although Hackoshiro ripped this one too, he wasn't the only one inspired by it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJxJxr9RlKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4imbtjey-aQ
>>3267324
>based on your criteria.
My criteria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG_axY9Ep1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpjnzxtZ6Qg
Koshit ripped almost every note from Shamen. It's essentially the same music, but played in Genesis hardware.
Chrono Trigger VS Rick Astley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3hz58VDWs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Mortal Kombat VS 2Unlimited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn8KlZF5Jc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VKbm2hp0o
Ace Attorney VS Cheetamen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGDqBviJ0o
Top Gun VS After Burner 3 VS Star Fox
>>3255319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1-gLREz48Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxa_8FSTkXQ
>>3267583
phoenix wright = cheetahmen ii = mind = blown
Dr. Mario Opening song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlAA0FFKn24&index=1&list=PLD99766ED72F9B26C
