What is the most impressive-looking 2D or 3D retro game in your opinion?
>sprites
Darius Gaiden
>polygons
Shenmue
2D: Metal Slug
3D: Vagrant Story
2d... SMW 2 Yoshis Island
3d... No clue
>>3253776
Can impressive mean art style and not just technical?
Because the Ecco games are beautiful
>>3253776
Unreal Tournament
>>3253776
For 3D, obviously anything on Dreamcast.
>>3256081
DC is the last console that aimed for hardcore gamers instead of dudebros and casuals, so it counts as retro.
>>3253837
My nigga.
Also I'd mention Panzer Dragoon for 3D, it may not be the hands down most impressive-looking but I'd bet it's at least top ten material and it sure was visually striking.
Also, first for Donkey Kong Country 2 as a goddamn beautiful 2D game
>>3256068
>Not PC
>>3256110
>DC is the last console that aimed for hardcore gamers
>its most popular game, Shenmue, is basically Last of Us: Japan Edition
Yeah, so much for DC being hardcore...
>>3257050
Here's that reply you wanted.
>>3256110
>DC is the last console that aimed for hardcore gamers instead of dudebros and casuals, so it counts as retro.
>this whole post
dude i love retro games but you sound like a pathetic hipster bitter faggot.
>>3257150
Underage detected.
>>3257143
Think about it, mate.
>more watching than playing
>QTE segments in a non-FMV game
>health regenerates during the battles
>praised for its graphics, not gameplay
Shenmue is more or less the first "Modern" videogame.
>>3257150
I swear it's just one or two Sega fanboys on here shitting up the place with DC posts about how great their failed system was.
It has its gems, but they are few and far between.
>>3257159
i bet you are a Genesis baby. I dont give 2 shits about the DC being retro or not, literally. Whats pathetic is trying to defend your favorite console like "HURR DURR IM HARDCORE AND YOU DONT". Shut the fuck up and go play some sonic adventure you dumbshit.
>HURR DURR IM HARDCORE AND YOU DONT
Literally /vr/
>>3253776
3D: Unreal ('98). Fire made of particles. Amazing sky, eerie atmosphere. Stunning, yet UNREALISTIC. After Half-Life game devs forgot that games have to be beautiful, and pushed for "muh realism" even if that meaned making game ugly.
>>3257162
Shenmue wasn't even it's most popular game though. If anything Soul Calibur and Sonic sold way more.
>>3253776
>What is the most impressive-looking 2D or 3D retro game in your opinion?
2D- Metal slug,Guwange, esprade,In the hunt, Last blade 2
3D- Wipeout 3,under defeat, soul calibur
![37158-Metal_Gear_Solid_[disc2of2]-3.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/K7XqqlQ.jpg "37158-Metal_Gear_Solid_[disc2of2]-3.jpg")
MGS, mostly because I'm sick of posting Toy Story over and over. It could even count as the best looking Dreamcast game, thanks to Bleem.
>>3257501
/vr/ considers anything made 1999 and before as retro. Though the real reason why it's considered retro is so we can circlejerk about how great it is.
2D : Garou MotW
3D : Shenmue II
>>3257162
>>praised for its graphics, not gameplay
kek, you never played shenmue.
>>3258994
He probably has. If you were alive during the time Shenmue was described as a game with very shallow combat but lots of detail, back story and great graphics. And of course great mini games. The core game itself is like a poor man's virtual fighter.
>>3257169
Dreamcast had, like, a 90% good library.
>>3257171
>being this mad
>being this underage
>>3258994
i dunno about you, but in 1999 everyone was using shenmue and sonic adventure and soulcal to shit on n64 and psx because of the amazing graphics
>>3259408
>gets retort
>LOL U UNDERAGE LOL U MAD?
bet you never played an atari game in your life faggot. Go back to school
>>3259481
>I'm le Atari generation XD
>>3259482
>im the Dreamcast generation
>>3259502
Could you fucking retards stop posting faggots tipping hats, thanks in advance.
>>3257487
>Blue and grey: the game
That definitely goes to shenmue 2 overall.
Soul calibur had some cool things I'd never seen before like thighs jiggling and stuff very good looking game at the time.
Dead or alive 2 was arguably the best looking fighter though
>>3261429
3d I mean obviously
>>3261315
>Dreamcast isn't retro.
>tfw you dont make the rules and your opinion is worthless
>>3256110
>>3261431
>tfw the rules got updated once before to allow DC and they'll get updated again soon to allow PS2, Xbox, GCN and GBA
>>3261491
Jesus christ I just read this and thought "surely GBA is retro if the DC is?"
>look up date of gba release
>2001
w h a t
I have no idea why I thought it was older. I guess because the DS came out only 3 years later. Crazy!
>>3261491
This is why /vr/ should have been pre-1995, end of fucking story. There is a huge disconnect between pre-1995 gaming and gaming afterwards, and THAT is what is "retro", not "b-b-but I played this as a kid and now I'm 18 barely out of being a kid, that should be totally retro!!!" retardation.
>>3261491
>>3261556
Nah, I think I'd be fine with adding xbox/gc/ps2/GBA eventually.
Gaming after those became a totally different beast and that was the "transition" gen so I think gen 7+ should stay out of retro anything forever. (well until a long time in the future anyway)
But then maybe in ten years I'd say the same about the post ps2 era consoles too.
Retro by definition tends to mean anything 15+ years past (I'd say discontinued in the case of consoles)
The biggest issue with adding more to "what do we define as retro here?" would be if you added ps2/xbox/gc there'd be a lot more games and whatever people could mention and it could lead to a less defined and more clusterfuck-y board.
That said given a long enough time the board will become stale with the same threads. There's only so much you can say about things that have already passed.
>>3261637
I think /vr/ should be fixed at 1999 (or even earlier, like 1991), and we spin off a second, slightly looser board with a moving >15-year window.
>>3261646
If you were going to do that I think '99 is the best fixing point.
'91 would be a bit too early, limiting, and slow the board to a complete crawl imo
I think a secondary looser spin off for the 2000+ era would be the better choice but they'd probably never do that since /v/, /vg/, and /vr/ already exist.
But I'm just an anon and I don't make the rules so what does what I think matter!!!
>>3261646
>more board splintering
Oh boy, just what we need.
>>3261657
SORRY FOR DERAILING YOUR THREAD OP
Best 2d is always Metal Slug
I was replaying another world the other day though and that game while not *pretty* in stills is a masterpiece in motion still. It's so fluid.
I remember Flashback having similarly nice animation but it has been a good 20+ years since I have played that so I'm probably imagining it a bit better than it is. Like Prince of Persia.
I really wish I'd kept my Amiga. Regrets.
>>3261637
>That said given a long enough time the board will become stale with the same threads. There's only so much you can say about things that have already passed.
This. We could limit the board to 1991 or some other defined date, but how active of a board would it be over time?
I know one of the main concerns about "opening the flood gates" to Xbox/PS2 era newfriends is that we would have a number of nostalgic, "anybody played X" threads. But don't we already have countless posts about Mario 64 and Sanic?
There is always going to be a level of nostalgia interlaced in any discussion of older topics. Let it be. Appreciation for the past shouldn't be excluded because you were a 30-something when it happened.
2D: Hm Kirby's Dreamland 3? Ganbare Goemon 4? Rayman?
3D: Conker's Bad Fur Day for looking like a high-end PS1/low end PS2 game on a console considerable weaker than both.
>>3261804
>N64
>considerably weaker than PS1
lmao
you are right if you say conker is the most impressive 3D game from 5th gen though
>>3261804
>>n64 being weaker than the ps1
>>3261637
>>3261657
>>3261491
Thing is I'd fine with only the pre-1999 thing on the board if there was actually board where you could talk about post-1999 games. But we don't have that. /vg/ is a porn board and /v/ is a "lose your shit because some people on a different website have different political beliefs than you" board. And the only reason we can have any sort of actual games discussion on /vr/ is because this is one of the smaller, newer boards... and even then said discussion is pretty damned shit.
So basically I see allowing 6th gen stuff and the GBA as "holy shit, I can actually talk about those games."
2D
>Samsho 3
3D
>Jet Set Radio
Outcast. The Crysis of 1999. I never was a fan of the actual game, though.
![sd3_02[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pteZqVL.png "sd3_02[1].png")
For 2D
>>3262763
I remember seeing ads for this game. The graphics were great overall, especially the viewing distance, but the ground looks like dung.
>>3253776
2D: Metal Slug
3D: Daytona USA or Shenmue
Soul Calibur and Last Blade 2
>>3263265
Daytona is a weird choice, is it because it was so early in 3d tech? I suppose it is a huge improvement over Virtua Racing, but personally I think Sega rally was more impressive.
>>3262608
This guy gets it.
>>3257150
I don't agree with him for the reason but it's borders on retro. One could argue that not only was it not in the same gen as the PS2/Xbox but also that a lot of the games it had were in the arcade around the 64 PS1 gen.
Yoshi's Island
its art style looks beautiful even today
