How was retro gaming in Latin America?
In Mexico, we grew playing Nintendo consoles, we even had a Nintendo TV show:
https://youtu.be/-llY0XM6IWU
>>3239957
>How was retro gaming in Latin America?
Piracy.
In Santiago of Chile you can go to paseo las palmas (Not sure if it's called that anymore) and find a shit ton of stores selling chipped ps2, chipped psx and homebrewed wiis. And some Gameboy Advance games as well
>>3240067
what country?
>>3240080
Any country under the Equator Line, pretty much.
Argentina here. It was exactly like that here.
>>3240080
Costa Rica, a shithole. In fact, even today Nintendo isn't as big because everything is at least two times more expensive than it should, while the competition has reasonable prices because they distribute their products directly, unlike Nintendo, not to mention that it still has the "kids only" stigma.
>>3239957
In Brazil people played Nintendo console clones and Sega Mega Drive was really popular. I think more BRs will come and tell more about their experiences. Piracy was a thing more on Sony days until ps2. In the past, the marjority rent original games and have one or two their own. In rental stores, they used to put some TVs and consoles and charge for hour.
These places were really popular back in the day. Full of kids and have their own sucessful games, depending of the city and things like that. So, preetty much everybody who liked videogames had the chance to play it. They charge like R$ 1 for hour.
I still see parents buying used snes and n64 to their kids and some stores selling old vidya stuff. Retrogames still live here
>>3240127
Honestly from I've heard from some Brazilian friends and random anons on 4chan, Brazil seems like it'd be a blast.
>>3240138
>Honestly
What a stupid thing to put in front of your post. Why would you be dishonest about it? Should I assume that whenever you DON'T start a post with "honestly" that you are in fact lying to me? It's like you retards don't even think when you write a sentence. You just randomly throw words that other people put at the beginning of their sentences at the beginning of their own, even when it doesn't make any sense.
>>3240143
>i can't figure out why nobody calls or texts me back i'm such a fun guy
>>3240138
>ousted president
>government in turmoil
>in massive debt due to poor economic choices such as hosting Olympics and World Cup
>crime
>unemployment
Yeah, a real blast
>>3240207
>implying you can't still have fun
It's like you're not even trying.
>>3239957
In my country many low middle class families owned the consoles (most of my friends did), but the only legit game we ever owned was probably Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt for the NES or Super Mario World (or All Stars if you were lucky) for the SNES because everything was about piracy. Pirated carts were really cheap and readily available everywhere. It's also worth noting that it was damn near impossible to find RPGs or text-heavy game, probably because of the language barrier. You could go to malls and stuff and buy all sorts of pirated games in neat little packages, as if they were the real thing.
With the PS1 and N64 the situation changed only slightly. Most people had a modded PS1 and bought (or even burned if you were a cool l33t kid) pirated games. The catalog was much broader because it was easier to pirate for this console, which made RPGs and the like a lot more accessible to people, even if they didn't speak English. N64 owners were a minority, since their carts and games were usually always the real thing and thus it was more expensive as a whole.
PS2 (which is basically the only console that we actually ever had during that gen) was also dominated by piracy, but by the release of PS3 people started buying/selling legit games at way more accessible prices. So the combination of both modern piracy protection and cheaper disc prices has made it piracy drop by a TON here.
Also Club Nintendo is good for nostalgia, but it's cringeworthy and shitty as hell. Tons of misinformation and outright shilling that is not only awkward in insight, but already embarrassing when it was current. I do have tons of those magazines somewhere, and they're good for a laugh or two.
>>3240230
What country?
>>3240138
Brazil is a mess especially when it comes to public services and I think it'll never change.
It was worse on the past, and in the 80s/ 90s was a time that most people didn't have access to modern things due to economic problems we have and this is the reason people played with Nintendo console clones for example.
Today is far from perfect but it's better.
>>3240230
>official nintendo magazine
>shilling
you don't say.
Anyway, what misinformation? Other than shit like "yes, the 64DD will come out in the west, Nintendo promised!", I don't remember many.
In fact, Club Nintendo was kind of based, I remember it included sections about arcade games even though the games were never released on Nintendo systems (I remember thanks to Club Nintendo I got into Darkstaklers back in the 90s).
>>3240207
Oh no, man don't talk about politcs please!!
I live in Brazil, I am poor, and never lived or seem violence. Don't oversize Brazil's problems. Don't act like we live in a worse place than it is.
What I hate about Brazil? People never see the good things here and always put our country down!
It's my country, it's not perfect but I love it!!
Fuck you coxinha de uma figa!
I'm done here, bye. See ya
I am Mexican and this is what happened:
Yes, consoles and games were expensive, a lot. Middle class people owned them but they were still something "new".
Lots of people traveled to USA to buy games and console (we still do lol)
Arcades started to come here and gaming started to become popular.
NES and SNES were kinda popular here specially because of Club Nintendo magazine and Nintendomania (TV Show)
But crisis arrived (thanks Salinas) and i think that it somewhat affected the N64.
The PS1 arrived and it had a way better catalog and you could mod it but N64 wasn't successful like the PS1
Then the PS2 arrived and unsurprisingly it dominated
However things changed a little when MS brought the Xbox
MS really supported the country and they started to bring Mexican dub to their games.
MS was very important for the videogame growth in Mexican and some Latin American countries.
Today vidya is more affordable, big companies do launch events in Mexico and we have big videogame expos.
>>3239957
Argentinian here.
The NES didn't exist here because the Family Game (famicom chinese knockoff) was cheaper. The games could be pirated, and you could fit like 20 in a single cartridge for $5.
Snes was very popular and everybody wanted one but the games were expensive. So 90% of the kids had a Sega Genesis which had pirate cartridges for $5.
Same story with N64 and psx. Copying psx cd's was easier than ever so NOBODY had an N64 as a kid.
I had an SNES since i was 3, a pc since i was 10 and that's it. A ps2 came along in 2005 though.
>>3240259
>please stop mentioning all the bad things happening in my country!
I left out the violence towards tourists, your horrendous deforestation policies, and flabbergasting cost of living. As far as you people are concerned, your only flaw is your jingoism, when in actuality you come off as more arrogant AND ignorant than even America.
But you go and be proud of your shithole, go on ignoring your basic fundamental flaws, I'm sure eventually everything will get better in maybe a hundred years.
>>3240303
You're embarrassing yourself dude. I'm not even from Brazil. Come on, stop shutting up the thread. Go to /pol/ if you want to make fun of other countries to alleviate your insecurities.
>>3240230
Sounds like Argentina to me
tu tu tu tu tu
>>3240127
How old are you? Or maybe things were different here in Rio de Janegro, idk.
Anyway, here in Brazil arcades were very popular as well as rental stores as mentioned before. Ataris 2600s and Master Systems were very popular home consoles, specially the Sega Master System.
The Master System is to this day still being made and sold in Brazil, it is the last Sega console still in production and the oldest console still in the market. In Brazil the Master System was so popular that we got tons of games translated to our language, something that is still rare to this day, and not only that we also got exclusive games that no other region got. Some games also had special licensing and were modified to have brazilian characters in it like wonderboy having turma da monica characters and some other games I can't remember.
Nintendo was also popular but never as much as Sega. Most people had either a Master System or a Mega Drive(genesis). The Nes was pretty rare here, at least for me. The Snes on the other hand was pretty common, not as much as the Genesis though.
Then we got the PS1, N64 and Saturn. Lots of people had N64s but the carts were expensive as hell so we all rented games and only owned 1 or 2 carts which we traded with friends. We also used to take our carts and controllers and go to friends houses to play multiplayer.
The PS1 on the other hand is where piracy pretty much became huge in brazil. Personally I used to have like a hundred pirated cds and I knew a guy that had an entire rack full of pirated cds. I think he owned every single game on the ps1, pirated of course, and he downloaded it and burned it himself, which was pretty rare back then because internet was expensive as hell but the guy's family was pretty well off though.
All in all I think the late 80s and the whole 90s were the golden age of gaming here in Brazil.
>>3239957
And we got this thing with Mickey Mouse doing Mario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjr9XTkGTTc
>>3240508
>All in all I think the late 80s and the whole 90s were the golden age of gaming here in Brazil.
Is it true that Nintendo abandoned Brazil?
>>3240230
>>3240279
>>3240314
yeah, it was like that back when I liven in Argentina, in my experience handhels where common enough, my parents got me a gameboy color when I was a kid and a GBA SP later on, but the actual games were hard to find outside of the capital, so I just stuck to Pokemon.
I will forever regret buying Duke Nukem and Medal of honor for the GBA, jesus fuck what was I thinking.
funny thing, one day I bought a pirated copy of Doom on a store and it came with Doom2, plutonia, TNT, Duke Nukem and a couple of expansions to it as well, Duke had this porn mod with naked ladies all over the level, it was fucking great for jerking off back then since I didnt have an internet connection.
then I moved to uruguay and things got somewhat easier
>>3240318
You missed a tu.
>>3239957
Chilean here.
Nintendo consoles were the popular choice, probably influenced by magazines like Club Nintendo and some tv shows. The SNES and GameBoy combo was pretty common between middle and upper class.
The 64 bombed here because the games were too expensive and the catalog was almost nonexistant, also the PS piracy was rampant and everyone had one.
>>3240096
I see
>>3240614
>>3240314
>>3240238
I'm actually talking about Ecuador, but I guess the situation across most Latin America was the same. Although I thought Argentina and Brazil had more of a Genesis presence, which was rare here.
>>3240249
Yeah, the shilling is expected and it was kind of amusing when they would pretend no other consoles would exist at first, but during the N64 age it got kind of embarrassing. By misinformation I mean things like pic related: contradictory statements, features that don't really exist, overhyped comments that never come to life. The whole Virtual Boy saga is weird and sad and cringey for all the wrong reasons in CN.
I also think it was based for Arcades and for Conejo in Wonderland, a really cool feature to have at the time when internet access wasn't all that common, but other than that the typos and less than professional coverage of things really bog it down. Even as a kid I would have fun finding typos in the magazine. There's a funny review of the magazine's first years at clubnientiendo.com where you can find more examples of CN dropping the ball.
>>3240143
tl;dr: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>3242776
genesis was also pretty strong before the PS1, I dont think I ever saw a SNES at the time
Mexican here, >>3240264 pretty much sums it up.
>However things changed a little when MS brought the Xbox
It also kind of fucked the arcades in the ass, because you stopped seeing regular arcade machines and all of a sudden modded XBox consoles with tons of arcade games dominated the scene
how about those arcade cabs with xbox hueg controllers on them? it's been a while since I've seen an arcade cab with the actual game in it
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Argentine here
I had an original NES, and was the only kid I knew who had one, the rest had Famiclones called "Family Game", I used an adaptor to play famiclone games on my original NES, adaptors to play original NES games on Famiclones also existed.
I also had a SNES, and I knew another kid with one. It was a very desired product mainly because of its fighting game ports, since fighting games were extremely popular in arcades.
There were also Mega Drives.
the SNES was my last console until I bought a Wii U 2 years ago, from 1996 on I only played games on pc. Piracy was rampant on pc, I didnt buy a non pirated pc game from 1996 till 2010.
The last game I remember renting in Blockbuster was Super Mario 64.
When I discovered emulation I gifted my SNES and all its games to my niece. I had Super Mario World, Mega Man X, Aero the Acrobat 2, Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Killer Instinct, Samurai Showdown and Mortal Kombat 2.
Playstation was a huge hit because of easy piracy, and because you could use it as a cd player, something not everybody, especially kids, had in the late 90s. Currently Playstation is the most popular console by far, and moms call gaming machines "La Play.
In my experience, Sid Meiers Civilization or Age of Empires are much more well known franchises than The Legend of Zelda here.
>>3242837
>being a disgusting nintendrone
>>3239962
/thread
>>3242843
I am actually more of a PC gamer, been playing games on PC since Sid Meier's Colonization for DOS.
I like Nintendo, but what I like the most about their modern hardware is is pirating all their games on a Nintendo console.
My Wii with Homebrew is my 240p NES, Genesis, SNES and Turbografx 16 emulation machine. I play Gamecube games on the Wii U with Nintendont, and right now because of Wii U homebrew you can play GBA and DS games on the gamepad. Obviously it is also possible to hack the Wii mode of the Wii U, but I prefer not to since Wii U Wii mode doesnt have 240p, only 480I unless you use hdmi, that I cant use on a CRT.
I like the idea of having all Nintendo games in one or 2 machines.
>>3240138
Gringo here. My ex is a huehue and I lived with her in Brazil for a few months. It's really nice if you have money, especially down south. No way I'd live in the north/anywhere in Brazil if I wasn't rich.
Anyway back on topic, everyone I met was a Nintendofag but Sega is super popular there.
>>3240109
>implying
There's plenty of Nintendo here.
>>3239968
>Paseo
>Palma
Do you live in Phantasy Star?
U are gay here, mostly PC fags and "play2" fags
(country to expensive to afford PS4 or even PS3)
Club Nintendo was pretty big back in the N64 and PSONE days also i remember some video gaming show in the early 2000' on Magic Kids, over all gaming goes hand to hand with piracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJTobex4vA
Was Panteon from Club Nintendo based or based?
>>3239957
From what I remember the videogame fever in Brazil started with Atari 2600. Some people imported it from the USA and it started becoming big. Then two of our main retail stores of the time, Mappin and Mesbla, started selling it between 81-82 with huge success.
Later the military government made a protetionist law to develop our own industry wich forbade the importation of computer related stuff, consoles were included in the list. The only way to get these products was if they were manufactured here.
So we had a shit ton of Atari 2600 clones: Dactari, Dactar, Dactar II, Dactar 007, Dynavision, Supergame CCE VG-2800, Dismac VJ-2900.
The only licensed Atari console here was made by Polyvox. It had a huge marketing campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkaaJUM1XPQ
There were plenty of companies manufacturing cartridges aswell. Some had 2 or 4 games in a single cartridge that were selectable by moving switches.
After the Atari fever was over, famiclones started to appear. Basically most companies that manufactured the 2600 began cloning the NES. It's not uncommon to see the early famiclones released here that resemble Atari somehow. They reused the leftovers of atari equipment, for example: Dynavision II came with 2 button atari controllers lol and Phantom System console case is like atari 7800. One of the problems is it wasn't easy to find good games, also 60-72 pin cartridges created the need of having an adapter, a shit ton of different hardware generated lots of incompatibility issues, summing it up, a huge mess. Another problem is this happened in 1989, the year Tec Toy and Sega signed a partnership.
>>3243346
Axy and Spot were more based
>>3243347
Needless to say, Master System revolutionized everything down here. It was simply gorgeous. Playing alex kidd in miracle world, choplifter or even california games was mind blowing. TecToy did its homework properly, managed to create good marketing campaigns, had the distribution contract of every game, it was easy to find all the official peripherals, they created a hot line, created Master Clube which was sega's version of nintendo fun club, translated games and made localized romhacks of others. Plus, we could find SMS games in VHS rental shops. It was glorious.
Mega Drive wasn't as succesful as its predecessor, though. Brazil was going through a huge crisis while Japan was prospering and since we have the biggest japanese community in the world it didn't take long for the first generation immigrants from Brazil and Peru to work there. A lot of them let their families here and it wasn't uncommon for them to send gifts to their dearest ones, mega drives included. Another factor is the construction of the Itaipu's hydreletric dam, in the border of Brazil and Paraguay. It is close to a city called Ciudad del Este, full of taiwanese immigrants that basically run the commerce there and Paraguayan law regarding importation is way brander compared to brazil. This new influx of people created a lot of smuggling and we had Tectoy's master system, japanese and chinese mega drives all living together. The problem with asian mega drives is they weren't compatible with most of our tvs. Anyway, this made TecToy release the Mega Drive just a year after Master System was released and it was fucking expensive.
>>3243352
August,1993. SNES was released in Brazil in a period the economy was stabilizing and Street Fighter 2 was already ported to it. This game is probably the responsible for bandaids sale increase and SNES' success since most people down here didn't even know who the fuck was mario and for all that mattered sonic looked cooler than my uncle's pixel version. Anyway, it was a pleasant surprise to have the first contact with nintendo's ips playing SNES. Also the SNES triggered a phenomenom similar to Lan Houses, Cyber Cafés or PC Bangs during counter strike mania. Anywhere you looked you would find a place where you could play for cheap. It was so fun playing street fighter 2 and International Superstar Soccer against each other that Allejo, Gomez and Beranco became part of our folklore. These rental shops lasted for awhile but eventually playstation became cheap and cd burners were popularizing, they broke.
>>3243351
>Axy and Spot
lol, if you only knew who was behind them..
>>3244031
Chavelo?
>tfw you hold a real game in your hands
>dat black cd
>dat booklet
>dat everything
>tfw you realize all youre missing
i think this goes beyond gaming...
>>3247184
I remember mid 90's PC games being cheaper than console games, my parents got me some sometimes so i got my share of game manuals to read.
The only thing i missed were the black CDs since i only had like 3 legit PS1 games and i was really disappointed when i found out PS2 didn't have them because that was the time where i started to actually have money to buy videogames.
>>3240561
Nintendo was never here to begin with.
Me acuerdo del show de Nintendomania, lo veía todos los sabados.
Like this
>>3250528
>>3239968
BS. Now it has non-retro and the most expensive retro stores in the city.
Chile here, it was nice and fun, playing some MK2 or KI or WWF with friends, or trade pokemon or sports games. We had tons of places where you could play every kind of multiplayer, if not everyone had that one cousin or friend with tons of games. Also PC vidya was great as well.
Now vidya in general, and mostly retro vidya, is full with turbo autists, manchildren, resellers, neets and faggotry. They take everything too seriously these days.
Also Club Nintendo was GOAT, specially when it was made here. It naturally became shit tho, got my last copy by 2006 or so.
I still have some issues of Club Nintendo from like 2010-11.
>>3254038
me too
