Redpill me on the Neo Geo, /vr/. Is it worth collecting for if you aren't an FGCfag?
>>3225557
This is such a stupid question, even overlooking the retarded vocabulary. So you're just going to start buying tens of thousands of dollars worth of hardware and software because of the responses on /vr/? Do it, I dare you.
>>3225557
Not really, emulation is very good and the good games are mostly posted to other systems. It's a very expensive console to collect for (relatively)
>>3225557
google mvs
The Neo Geo is, first and foremost, an arcade system. The arcade version is known as the MVS (Multi Video System).
The console version was called the AES (Advanced Entertainment System). It was primarily made for hotels and other commercial uses. It was marketed as a home console, but it realistically wasn't meant for the home. Prices on AES games and consoles have remained high due to rarity.
If you want to collect for the Neo Geo, it's highly advisable to get either an MVS arcade cabinet, or a "consolized" MVS system modified to be played on a TV. MVS cartridges are a fraction of the price of AES carts because they're more common.
>>3225587
Get a CMVS (consolized MVS) and a multicart, and you'll be pretty much set (if you don't mind the multicart)
poorfags need not apply
>>3225557
>if you aren't an FGCfag
If you are "FGCfag" fighting games, you should use fightcade or play actually relevant alive games instead.
>>3225648
People in the FGC don't play Garou or KoF98 anymore?
>>3225557
If you hate money, collecting Neo Geo AES is the way to go.
>>3225663
Some of them do, but usually people playing /vr/ fighting games are "arcade/SNK/Capcom/general fighting" fans or collectors, not "FGC" in competitive sense.
>>3225557
If you don't like fighting games, the Neo Geo is about as useful for you as a toaster is to someone that's allergic to wheat.
But what about Windjammers?
>>3225676
the kusoge FGC scene is still going strong though.
>>3225846
BALLOON
I'm surprised there isn't a global word filter for redpill me and how does /BOARD LETTER/ feel about X
Can't you use a magic key and then run most mvs multicarts on an aes?
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/1715895018.html
So for 5-600usd you could have a decent setup?
>>3225865
You can buy a converted mvs for less than that and make your own for even less than that.
>>3225846
>Fighter's History
>kusoge
bakage =! kusoge
>>3225727
>not liking:
>Magician Lord
>Jap Last Resort
>Metal Slug
>Pulstar
>Viewpoint
Ayyylmao
>>3225991
what's wrong with the overseas last resort?
>>3225557
>Redpill me
You're too poor to even be posting ITT
>>3227272
>You're too poor to even be posting ITT
but he still can emulate!!!
Any good belt scrollers for this piece of shit?
>>3225557
Also you're dealing with by far the most fucking autistic community of collectors on this earth, who would probably not hesitate to literally murder anyone who might make a good AVS flashcart. Check out the neo-geo.com forums for 5 minutes and see what I mean.
>>3227281
>favela arcade
>>3225634
What does Neo-Geo CD have what CMVS hasn't?inb4: loading ages
>>3227295
a few exclusives
Does the Neo Geo CD have any copy protection?
>>3227359
Some games do. Fixed versions of all of them are available.
>>3227285
Segoku 1-3
I absolutely envy Neo-Geo collectors. The prices are insane. Even the cheapest route with the multicart is SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS
>>3227690
mvs pcb - $50
muli cart off alixpress - $50
jamma harness - $10-20 (don't really need this you could solder straight to the finger)
av/controller ports, wire, resistors, caps etc ~ $30
wood/plastic/glass housing for pcb ~ $0-40
controller you wire up yourself out of sanwa parts ~$60
Powersupply - $30 at most
So about $300 and most of those parts you can do cheaper or you already have. More time than anything else.
>>3227716
This post sounds like the $100 junkyard ls1 and an afternoon engine swap posts
>tfw just bought an MVS cab
Feels fucking good man
>>3227780
whatever bro, stick with mame then
>>3225991
>>Magician Lord
>>Jap Last Resort
Eeuurrgh
>>3227998
Oh wait nevermind thought I read Cyber Lip for some reason. Last Resort is fine if you like R-Type.
>>3227716
>mvs pcb - $50
Where can I find it for this price?
>>3225557
literally a money sink
>>3228215
ebay? trading post? idk in america it's easy to find second hand arcade stuff, over here in in australia it's more like ~$80 (65 us) because it's rare or imported at cost.
>>3225557
If I had money to blow hell yeah.
>>3228215
That's the going rate on ebay. "Not tested"
>>3225587
or a time machine
last NG i saw was $250 with 2 sticks and about 5 boxed games back in 2006 or 2007
i was broke at the time and i REALLY regret not sucking dick for $250
>>3225557
There has never once been a good thread in the entirety of 4chan that started with "Hey [board name], redpill me on X." Just saying.
>>3225557
Memry cahds? Cahts couldn't save?
>>3228215
>>3228353
You're not going to find an MVS motherboard for less than 100 US.
>>3227716
This kids a fucking idiot.
If you're consolizing and want to play on a standard TV using composite or component cables you need a video encoder which runs about 90 bucks.
Theres a fucking reason consolized MVS' are expensive.
>redpill me on X
that stupid thread starter isn't even allowed on /pol/ anymore
>>3229535
Projecting pretty hard there Kid Idiot.
You can easily find an MVS board for less than $100 and a good video converter for less than $50. You've never consoized an MVS and couldn't if you tried.
>>3229535
>This kid
What kind of faggot would use anything other than RGB
>>3230336
Retarded casuals who don't know where to get a MVS for <$100?
>>3227295
better music
>>3225557
NOTHING is worth that price.
>>3230941
No. Originally it was several hundred $ when they were new. I was replying to someone who said $100. I can get them less than $100 shipped. But I'm not an eBayby so there's that.
>mfw raspi is the best neogeo option
what about a neo geo cd or cdz? the load times don't seem so bad when you are used to 4th and 5th gen optical drive speeds. and the can be found for $150-250
No copy protection is tempting.
>>3232652
also has native s-video output. I'm gonna buy one.
CDZ, top load or front load? Time for some research.
>>3232652
I've got a CD. Well, three of them. Probably the best option if you're poor and want to play on original hardware.
There is copy protection but unprotected images are easy enough to find.
>>3232787
I was just reading about that, some of the library right? also games are really cheap outside of the heavy hitters.
Front load seems like more of a headache
Top load is slow but seems to have the highest rate of working consoles being sold. 1/2 the cdz I am finding are non functioning.
Any tips for a newfag buying a ncd and games?
Already read up on the 3 way region switch and downloaded a jap to english menu map.
Is there a way to switch bios or something on ncd and convert the menu on Ntsc-j to ntscu?
>>3233113
yeah, I'd advise just from general experience with consoles to go for top loaders in almost any disk drive situation.
>>3225565
Actually emulation is spotty and laggy on most games...
>>3225727
There are plenty of good non-fighting games for the Neo Geo...
>>3227272
being retarded doesn't mean he's poor
>>3233180
liar
>>3233163
that was my initial thought, the cdz seems unreliable and I don't care for the look as much
probably go for the reliable one and deal with the slow loading. I could always sell and upgrade later.
>>3227281
those home made joystick cases are kinda cool really if you look past the fact that they are really grungy.
>>3233187
idiot
>>3233113
A few dozen from what I recall. Games are cheap. I have a dozen or so I picked up in flea markets.
Only thing you need to know if you're buying a CD is how to repair power supplies. And patience.
There's a universal BIOS. Never messed with it. Games aren;t text heavy and I can read moon anyway.
>>3233187
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/154654-best-neo-geo-games-not-fighters/
>>3233203
cunt
>>3233217
stinky doo doo head
Name five good Neo Geo games belonging to the same genre that are NOT fighting games.
Protip: You can't.
>>3233236
Metal Slug, Metal Slug 2, Metal Slug 3, Metal Slug 4, Metal Slug 5, etc...
>>3233243
>any Metal Slug after 3
>good
>>3232483
>I can get them less than $100 shipped
Could you please share some of these places?
>>3233243
>Metal Slug
People only like these for the graphics. You can't even lock your aim like you could in Contra Hard Corps or Alien Soldier. Shit controls.
>>3234781
Yes you can, have you ever even played the games?
>>3225557
>redpill me
>FGCfag
Just leave.
Anyone who responds to these fucking idiots should be banned as well.
>>3235475
Yep. There's no option to stand still and aim in all directions like you can in Contra 3.
What are the best port options for Metal Slug?
>>3235509
Metal Slug Collection for the Wii.
>>3225557
do you have a little dick? if so, hoarding expensive shit may just be your thing.
>>3236232
I have a little dick and i hoard ROMz. Am I doing it right?
>>3237487
Only if you have a bad-ass front end for them all.
>>3237518
I have retroarch. It's both bad and ass.
>>3225557
Unless you mod it for MVS games expect to pay around anywhere from a few hundred to a thousand dollars for most games.
Seriously if you want to collect games for this as you would other less mainstream consoles you have to either be fucking loaded, or have no other hobbies or interests that cost a buck.
>>3237545
How exactly do you mod it for MVS games?
>>3227780
Hello fellow br/o/ther
Really, that list it's mostly plug and play, hell if you buy the arcade stick and the supergun premade everything is plug and play.
>>3227972
Hmm, can you share more details about that build?.
>>3237545
>mod it for MVS games
You're not even parroting kid, you're just making shit up.
>>3237667
I assume he means an MVS/AES converter. I haven't priced them but the first two prices I saw from google looked ridiculous. Depending on space, someone interested in NeoGeo might consider just getting an actual arcade cab and MVS motherboard. Not sure what prices are like today, but I got a Neo Candy locally for $450 or so a few years ago.
Or, if that fails, consolizing an MVS motherboard is another option.
>>3241018
$250 for a jap aes
$250 on ali for the magic key
$50 for a mvs 161 cart
or a cd or cdz, unibios in mvs/aes mode and pc-2-neo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxdig2wb8Q
>>3241018
You assume people aren't underage bullshitters.
You assume wrong.
>>3241320
Didn't know you could do this, do all games work?
>>3240765
Sure first MVS I have ever converted, it's an mvs fz1 board. Made the box out of wood leaving just enough room to remove carts. The PCB feet are glued with liquid nails to the base so I can just unscrew the PCB if I need to remove it. The lid is a piece of dark glass that sits on studs on the inside walls cont.
>>3241565
Cont. I used a jams harness. I left most of the wire loose as cutting it to length then having to take it apart again would have been a pain. Wired up the controller dins with the corresponding jamma inputs as well as the colour signals and the sync. I wired them up through separate RCA jacks but if I did it again I would just have used a scart jack for everything. The most complicated bit was the sound as the mono sound requires 12v and I only wanted to use 5v. I found a 5v stereo amp bypass mod for my particular board and followed that so my l and r audio doesn't come through the jamma but straight off the board. I power it with a 5v adapter I bought from jaycar because I didn't want to lug around a PC PSU with it.
>>3241593
Cont. There are studs on the base of the unit to keep it off the ground if I'd thought ahead I would have drilled in ventilation holes on the bottom but it doesn't get very hot. There are 75hz resistors on each colour output otherwise they look washed out on some monitors, especially the xrgb mini. I don't have neo geo controllers and didn't really want more sitting around so I bought neo geo to ps1/2 converters and used the ps1 arcade sticks I had. You could easily make your own though as they are the old style and don't require a controller PCB. Pic is the back panel. I added the svideo jack because I was going to add a signal converter but never did/will because I use rgb exclusively nowadays anyway.
If I could give you any advice it would be decide if you want a uni BIOS or not as some motherboards are a bitch to use it with (try desoldering a 32 pin chip and wiring each pin to individually because they don't match up, not pretty). Also I don't know bit I would imagine an upright cartridge slot would be easier to design a compact unit for. I myself want to make a really compact one for the C1 slot main board. Good luck anyway.
>>3225557
>Is it worth collecting for
Only if you have a fuckton of money.
And want to kiss a lot of ass in the NG community
>>3241320
>i frantically googled to try to support my bullshit
Kid, you're a fool. Go back to wherever you came from and let the grownups talk
>>3241623
For RGB you can take video signals directly off the PCB, add resistors to colour lines and that's it? No need for fancy video converters, or adjustable pots?
Nice build.
>>3233174
every neo geo game is pretty much available on mame and they run great
So which is better KoF 96 or KoF 97?
>>3241832
KoF '98 and KoF '02
Nobody in the FGC can afford a neo-geo. Also you're a faggot.
>>3241849
Those weren't the options he provided you fucking autist
>>3229535
I bought one in Japan for around 90.
>>3233174
Yeah, if you'e still using Neorage.
>>3241832
97 has a weird thing where they only play the stage music when the team leader is playing, also 96 has geese so...
>>3242169
Off eBay you could def pick one up for 50
>>3241565
I'm not 100% sure how it even works. I am just doing research because I am the previous anon that is shopping for a ngcd. I will make a thread when I get it all figured out and hard pricing on everything. Nice job on the mvs
>>3241778
This is my first post since >>3233113 watch the friendly fire bro.
>kid
PROTIP: the only anons tossing that around are going through puberty themselves.
>>3242220
>Neo 2 PC
I've got a uni BIOS for my mvs and wondered what that menu option meant. Does it connect via the ribbon for the CD unit or something? That video you posted says that version of puzzle bobble is a demo which I'm thinking means it won't run unmodified games
>>3242247
It plugs into the 2nd controller port. So no 2 player I guess? I have no idea I just found out about this and the neobiosmasta the other day.
https://youtu.be/n6VMv7qqwAs
>>3241623
How about the power supply I can power everything up with just 5v after that mod?, could give more details?.
Also, I can see you are getting the output right from the jamma right into your framemeister right?, so no superguns or anything.
>>3242790
With that particular board model and some others the voltages other than 5v are only used to power the sound. By bypassing the on board amp and rerouting the signal through a diy amp you can use 5v to power everything. I'm using a 5v 3a adapter but different boards have different requirements. Check the service manual of the board revision to check voltage.
About the rgb - you need to have grounded jacks for whatever standard you are using. I have RCA jacks on mine but it might be easier to use a scart jack. So mine goes - colour signals and sync off the board finger - through the jamma harness - 4 RCA jacks at the back both grounded and with a 75hz resister on them - cables and adapters - pvm monitor/frame Meister
>>3242220
Your combo doesn't work kid.
PROTIP: This is /vr/ and a neo geo thread on top of that. anons here have kids older and wiser than you. We'll call you kid if we feel like it.
>>3227295
a few exclusives
some games have better audio but also include original audiolong load times, which vary from game to game. Can range from tolerable to "kill me now"
>>3227292
good thing there is an AES flashcart coming :^)I can't wait for the tears of neogeofags
>>3232685
CDZ is probably your best option
>>3227292
I reccomend you check yourself. The mentality of that site's users has changed for a long time now, and now mostly focuses on complaining about resellers much like /vr/ does. The vast majority of that community would welcome a MVS/AES flashcart. To be fair though, neo-geo.com does have some of the most ridiculous incidents in video game collecting history. (ex: NeoGeoFreak, fake Aero Fighters 3)
The main reason why Neo Geo doesn't have a good flashcart yet is because of how expensive it is to manufacture to support all the different chipsets NG games can have, and the most talented creator of flashcarts(Krikzz) isn't interested in making one at the moment.
>>3244012
If one ever comes out it will be no joke >1000 dollars
Seeing as how there are people posting their consolised MVS' in this thread, it seems appropriate to ask my question here.
I've just bought a MVS cabinet. It had a four slot MVS board inside of it. When I turn the system on, I get a blue screen and some slight graphical junk on the left hand side. With the MVS disconnected from the Jamma harness the monitor is just black which indicates that it's not a moniter or jamma issue, the problem is most likely to lie in the MVS board itself.
The previous owner told me that he had it "looked at professionally" and said it's a RAM issue.
I really don't know. Kinda tempted to just throw a computer in there if I can't get this board working.
>>3246851
So replace the ram?
>>3233174
Actually you are full of shit. Enjoy your overpriced collection.
>>3241832
They are both great, but I really liked 96.
>>3246851
It probably needs a replacement of the RAM chips. If you can't get it working you could also get a replacement board, although I'm not sure how expensive 4 slots are these days.
>>3243314
I posted vids of it working.
tfw I'm the grown man with a house, and you're posting from mobile.
I'm struggling on getting gxgeo to work on my Wii. Any guides or tutorials that can help me out there?
>>3247062
Pretty certain it only works with a few games anon
>>3247996
I mean I can't get it to work at all.
>>3225846
yeah, plenty of people still play sfv
Has anyone here consolized an MVS?
I have a cab but I wanted to make a consolized version.
Theres an auction up for an MV1AX that I might buy. I basically want to consolize it for a friend who loves the MVS but can't really afford one.
