I've been looking through some of the screenshots of the game, and I've tried to translate them with either Kanji or Katakana.
What language does this game use?
Also Mother 3/Earthbound 64 discussion thread
>>3213913
That's hiragana. It says something like :
"Da zo gedegude-!"
"Tou chyan!"
not sure what that means, my comprehension is terrible.
A lot of people say the unreleased version of Mother 3 is ugly, but I actually prefer this look to the GBA version. It reminds me of that uncanny "realism" early N64 and PS1 games had that felt sort of eery and dreamlike. Would have loved to explore the original vision for this game, but we'll probably never see a leak if it even still exists
>>3213951
Nope.
It's saying "dazugete gude-! toucha-n!", which is a mispronunciation of "save me! daddy!".
>>3213960
No, that just legitimately looks like shit awful 1st generation 3d. Probably ran at like 8FPS too.
>>3214086
Calm your autism babyman, nobody's forcing you to like it
>>3213960
I dunno seems like as a child I wouldn't have liked the transition from cartoony sprites to more "realistic" 3d.
It seems like something I would have preferred on a relay as an adult
>>3214086
Looks pretty good in the trailer, specially the mines part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIT73a6iNiE
>>3214119
and no one's forcing you to dislike it but if you're free to say something looks good others are free to say it looks like someone vomited up on a lego set
>>3214192
Well it's a good thing this 4chan and I'm free to call you a tactless pseudo intellectual prick and move on then
According to Itoi, the original script was way more grimdark. I wish he would go into details or release the unedited draft.
>>3214254
Well, no wonders. The original script is an adaptation of pic related.
>>3214401
Not really an adaptation, but it has some similitudes, and it's also where Itoi took the names Claus and Lucas.
だずげでぐで、とうちゃｰん=たすけてくれ、おとうさん(tasuketekure otousan)
Please help, father
>>3213913
>I've tried to translate them with either Kanji or Katakana.
>What language does this game use?
>being this underage
FYI someone translated all of the officially released screenshots of EB64, but none from the trailer:
http://starmen.net/eb64/images/translated.php
>>3213985
Pretty interesting, I guess that scene takes place at Drago Plateau, and if that's the case it's worth pointing out that Alec is nowhere to be seen.
While I think the GBA version was a more faithful sequel to Earthbound, there is a unique charm and intrigue to me when it comes to EB64. I rewatch the trailer from time to time wondering what could've been or how this game could've played out. I would kill to get my hands on a copy, never gonna happen tho. I just wish at the very least we'd get a rom dump. Our only hope would be if one of those Spaceworld Expo demo carts came up out of nowhere. Unfortunately I read those were flashcarts or something, so odds are if they didn't somehow end up in a collector's hands they were probably overwritten. Itoi has a copy I believe, and I read there was another confirmed cart that was complete up to chapter 4 or so. (I want to clarify I'm referring to chapter 4 in the GBA version, as EB64 was planned to have way more chapters)
IMO if /vr/ could manage to pull its resources and find ChuTeng, I don't see why it's not possible for /vr/ to at least try and find the EB64 cartridges, just putting that out there
>>3214981
It would have been better than what we gpt for sure
>>3213951
>That's hiragana. It says something like :"Da zo gedegude-!""Tou chyan!"
If you don't actually know hiragana or Japanese, don't waste everyone's time by trying. That's "zu", not "zo" and ちゃん is chan, not chyan. That small や is combined with the character before it.
Faggot.
>>3213951
>my comprehension is terrible
You don't even know the fucking alphabet so I'm willing to bet your comprenshion is not just terrible but non-existent.
>>3217385
Stop shitposting.
So Mother 3 was only really showed off to the public at Spaceworld 1999 right? I've only seen a few pictures of it displayed at the event on EB Central (such as the one attached). I've tried to find lesser known amateur video and photos from Spaceworld 1999 and haven't turned up much, anyone got anything of their own or any idea where to keep looking?
>>3213960
I feel the same way, I love the way n64 and ps1 games look.
What an interesting game. Originally this game was 12 chapters and said to be 60 hours long, the gba version being 8 chapters and being about 25-30 hours. From the screenshots Flint appears to have been a main party member at some point, Claus also was going to be in the party for a bit seems. In the gba version claus is a full character who has fully functional stat increases all the way up to level 99 despite being used only in the tutorial battle, a bit fishy. I imagine he was planned to be a playable character in the gba version but somehow was scrapped. What's really interesting is how Itoi has cited the original scenario as "dirty". In a interview he said something like "originally the ending made you question the motive and feelings of the main character" which really fascinates me. My personal belief is that in the original endingLucas would be so overcame with grief that he would ultimately decide to destroy the world or that the game simply ended at the black screen.
I find this screenshot really interesting, nothing like this appears in the final game and seems out of place in mother 3.
>>3219617
I really like your theory on the N64 version's ending, never really considered that myself. [Spoiler] Also worth noting how similar to Paula, Lucas had an ability titled "call"/"call out" which was more than likely intended for the final battle. [/spoiler]
It's well known the game was going to be much darker. There's the left over sprites ofPorky being killed, Hinawa being pushed aside, and Flint stabbing presumably a Drago.
One thing that's always perplexed me is this screenshot showing Onett and Fourside (perhaps even Eagleland as a whole) destroyed with helicopters in the background. Perhaps it's a flashback scene used inLeder's exposition towards the end.
And on the topic of drastic changes between the two versionsit's been widely speculated Kumatora was going to take Fassad's place as the last Magypsy, but there's nothing definitive to confirm or deny that
Someone needs to get the ROM of this. I'm sure there are some modders that would finish this.
>>3219962
Honestly at this point getting the actual rom is probably way more difficult than a dedicated group of modders finishing the game. Of course I'm not gonna short sell the work it'd take to finish the game, I'm sure that's no easy task, as its most complete state was roughly 70% done with two more years of work needed. I feel like if any cart of this game surfaces, it'll be the spaceworld 1999 demos, which were kinda thrown together specifically for the expo. Honestly we'd be lucky to even get those, since I heard those were on flashcarts or something along those lines that was meant to be written over. But I'll say it again, /vr/ has managed to pull resources in the past and find some really elusive stuff, so never say never
>>3219901
I finf this one fascinating as well, from the appearance of both an onett sign and the monotolli building makes me feel that scene was only a flashback. Another theory of mine is that at some point you might have found some kind of ruins of the old world however that seems pretty unlikely. I've heard the theory Kumatora being the final magypsy but never really seen anything that supports this. In the gba version she actually has a few sprites of her dressed as a magypsy but I feel this more relates to how she is an "apprentice" of them. In the n64 version she seems to be less iimportant to the overall game. Another interesting piece is this artwork depicting some kind of slum village. Another artwork depicts a guy on a guy on a minecart going to what looks like another village. These pieces make me wonderif originally they're were many villages and people on the nowhere island or if Porky brought these people as well.
>>3219962
This is highly unlikely, either the only copies are behind the nintendo vaults or some asshole feels really special about having it and refuses to let any information. Probably the closest we've ever gotten were those four blue n64 cd disks people(mistakenly) thought were a copy of the game.
>>3220240
What is it with this game and minecarts anyways? Seems like they were gonna play a big role and then they end up completely absent in the GBA version.
What's this supposed to be?
Something tells me that this is when Lucas and Claus were in Alec's home at the beginning of the game.
>>3221171
That what it appears to be, many scenes especially the beginning appear in the gba version.
>>3221171 >>3221198 Judging by the eerie filter, I feel like this could be a flashback to Alec's that appears during the final battle
>>3221304
I also noticed that there's a character behind them if you brighten the image.
I also noticed this.
Could this be towards the ending of the game?
>>3222085
That's the start of the game.
>>3222085
>>3222132
My best bet is that it's supposed to be this enemy from Chapter 1.
Forgot to mention but probably the closest thing to new media that's been released regarding EB64 are some higher resolution screenshots used in magazines that frankcifaldi uncovered. He's only posted this one on his twitter, but he's mentioned having more.
>>3222256
There's still a slim chance that the game will surface.
I've pretty much found all I could find out about this game. I've only recently found some articles IGN wrote about the game after they played it at Spaceworld.
Apparently when Boney is running through the woods at the beginning of the game, he doesn't grab Duster. He just notices something in the woods.
>>3222282
I feel ya haha, I've just about seen and read everything out there about EB 64, but I didn't know about that Boney scene. Maybe that's what got the villagers looking for Lucas and co instead of the fire.
>>3222220
This had always been my guess as well, that or the monster in the screenshot being an original monster that never appeaered.
>>3222256
It's interesting to me that so many screenshots and artworks display the porkbean, or at least what I'm guessing is the pork bean. My guess is the island would be larger and that was your main source of transportation. In the trailer they show Flint riding and getting into a battle, in the gba version it's kill any enemy it touches. I imagine it would have more importance in the n64 version.
>>3220425
I've never thought of that but a lot of mine carts are shown in the screenshots and artwork, I personally find the scene in the trailer of Lucas and Claus in the mine cart really interesting.
thought this was a screencap of a quizno's hamster commercial
>>3222427
https://web.archive.org/web/20010401013757/http://ign64.ign.com/previews/1968.html
>>3222507
Particularly confusing is how Flint and even Lucas somehow have access to the pork bean this early in the game, seeing how Tazimily lacks devices like that, perhaps they GTA'd it or something, who knows. Doesn't look at all like the pork bean in the GBA version that's for sure. Seems like it more or less served as this game's version of the Bicycle.
Also, I never understood why Ness (or a look alike) is seen in a pork been in some early EB 64 media. I've heard rumors he was a place holder, but honestly I don't get why they'd use a Ness look alike for that, unless they intended to follow the series trend of having Ness and Ninten look similar.
>>3222834
My guess is that the Ness model was a prototype/test model, many members on the team were inexperienced with 3D and probably needed practice. Another theory I have is similar to Ninten and Ness sharing very similar designs Lucas would as well however I think Itoi wanted Lucas to be different so I see this as unlikely. It's really interesting seeing how much Lucas's design changed. The first incarnation, or at least the first we know of, depicts as quite happy go lucky and wuth a poncho and a hat that appears to reassemble either a beanie or backwards cap. Later we saw his more iconic n64 design which saw a more determined look and gave him blond hair, a white tshirt, a blue fanny pack, and green shorts. Eventually he received blue shorts and a red and yellow striped shirt without the fanny pack but blond hair intact. It's interesting that as time went on he started to reassemble Ninten and Ness more. I've heard before that by the end of development on the n64 version many characters actually had the design we see in the gba version however I don't remember the source and have never read this anywhere else so my guess is that was a rumor or lie.
Sorry about all these huge walls of text guys, really love discussing this game.
I'm really sad this never got released because this is the RPG the N64 really needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygjmOaxn6uE
>>3213951
kys
>>3220425
Could the Pig-cart chasing them have been in the minecart sequence shown in the Spaceworld '99 trailer?
>>3217385
>>I'm a faggot, here's proof.
>>Also you're one too.
I loled
>>3222920
Lucas did resemble Ness in some of the concept art, but what's odd is how there's screenshots of Ness/the placeholder with Lucas in his first official design phase
>>3222920
>>3224110
1/2
>>3222920
>>3224113
2/2 (left side, kinda hard to make him out)
I think there's another image with them both in it, can't find it atm tho.
>>3224125
Maybe he was intended to appear in New Pork or after chapter 4 as an NPC
>>3219617
This isn't Onett.
This is when the Pigmasks modernized Tazmily village.
Man, this game looks ugly as fuck. Glad we got the GBA game instead of this trainwreck.
>>3213960
There already are plenty of games that look like this. I don't think we missed out on anything visually. One of the best things about earthbound is that it doesn't have that generic muddy medieval village setting that most jrpgs love.
>>3224575
The visuals are pretty primitive, but what anon said about the eerie, dreamlike quality is something I kinda get just looking at the old screenshots. I think Mother 3 on the GBA was a way better sequel to Mother 2 than this could've been, but on its own, the idea of a 3D Earthbound game is still pretty fascinating.
>>3213951
>my comprehension is terrible
Jesus, not just your comprehension. You can't learn Japanese.
Just wanted to point out one thing that seems to get overlooked, and that is that EB 64 only allowed for up to three playable characters in an encounter, which is a bit of an odd and honestly poor choice imo. I can try and find the article I read that in later on if anyone wants documented proof.
>>3225257
Can you provide a source? From my memory screenshots did only displayed up to three characters however I feel mother 2 having four party members and scenes like the one of Lucas, Duster, Flint, and Boney grabbing on to the the ship support that the game would allow four party members at a time. My belief is that originally you would be able to switch party members.
>>3222085
But if you look at the ground, a yellow outline can be seen. This could possibly be at the end of the game where you pull the last needle, but seeing as though there's a boar enemy it might not be.
>>3226106
I imagine that's just a detail of the background, games never showed screenshots near the ending. The boar is probably the same enemy as this one (called the agitated boar) which appears in chapter 1 the gba version.
>>3225506
I've looked and havent been able to find the source, but I know I read it in an old magazine scan. Perhaps characters were selectable for battle when you had 4 or more in your party
>>3226364
While I don't think that's a screenshot from towards the end of the game, we do have at least one from the last sections of the game in NPC but I think it's just a render and not an actual screenshot of the game in action
>>3222427
I take back what I said about the forest fire not being apart of the N64 version
>>3224113
there's a lot going on here, see that New Age Retro Hippie?
Just gonna drop this translated article here, gotta give EB 64 credit, it was trying to be pretty ambitious at the time with this, supposed day/night cycle, and the multiple story paths.
>>3227531
So is this the only image of the 64DD version of Mother 3?
Kumatora is a cutie
>>3228862
I'm really happy this wasn't her final design, the design we see in the gba version is much better.
>>3228963
She didn't even look like a princess at all. What were they thinking?
>>3230653
She doesn't look like a princess in the GBA game either...
>>3214927
Ioh could have just said you don't know.
Who could be fighting here?
I've tried translation, but with no luck.
>>3230681
wess and duster
>>3230653
>>3230660
This is just reminding how unexplained she is in the GBA game. As far as I can remember she's just some random chicks you meet at Oshoe Castle who can use pay/Pk powers and is also looking for the egg of enlightenment (something else that isn't explained and goes nowhere). There's the cut sprites of her being dressed like magyspsy and... That's it. She exists just to be a girl party member, and get used as fan service (when she's a maid) but hey it's okay cause she's actually a tomboy.
>>3230876
She is explained though, she was a baby without parents that was carried along with the other people on the white ship, and the magipsies ended up taking care of her.
She was supposed to be the final magipsy, but for whatever reason that got changed on the final script. That's okay, I prefer her to be a girl than whatever the magipsies are.
The egg of enlightenment was unexplained (but to be fair, so was the Apple of enlightenment on Mother 2.
>>3230681
Duster and Wess are the party members and are fighting the fierce pork trooper. Originally instead of fighting the clayman in chapter 2 you fought him. In mother 3's sound player the music tracks are arranged in which they appear in the game, the track that plays fighting him, hustle for pride, appears by the other songs in chapter 2. This shows you were planned to fight him in gba version in chapter 2 but they changed it to a clayman later on.
>>3230876
>>3230890
There is no true proof that kumatora was the true final magypsy. She is described as being the "apprentice" of them actually and as them being both parental figures and teachers of her. There do exist unused sprites of her dressed as magypsy but I think that relates more to the "apprentice" aspect. Also as Leder explains she was given the role as "princess of oshoe" as they realized the island needed some form of false history for when they wipe their memory.
