It's that time motherfuckers. DQ up to VII to be discussed.
Best Game?
Best Protag?
Best Waifu?
Best Boss?
Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
I'm actually towards the end of DQV on the SNES right now myself, about to enter the Demon World. I should probably do some grinding because Bianca is underlevelled and underequipped, plus there are some more monsters I'm looking to recruit.
>>3210519
>he still plays jarpigs
>>3210519
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
The answer to both is slime knight.
>>3210519
>Best Game
Tie between V and II. V had a much more interesting story in my opinion because of how you follow this character from youth to old age. A lot of little things in that game really captured me for some odd reason. As for II I think it had the best challenge. I also really liked the character designs for some odd reason.
>Best Protag?
V's. VI's comes at a close second though just because he has a bare semblance of personality.
>Best Boss?
I'm really not sure. I really like every final boss in the games if that counts. All their designs/fights are cool.
>Best recruitable
Honestly >>3210525
All the slime anythings in DQ were really good companions.
>Best Waifu?
I think Debora is cute and a really good character but is only in the DS version so I guess she doesn't count.
Bianca is usually who I pick though on SNES.
I always liked 3's protagonist, only because with the way I played it, he became a /ss/ pimp with all ara ara female party members.
Also I accept http://exhentai.org/g/225944/036dfb9432/ as canon.
How big are the differences between the ports of V aside from graphics, sound and translation?
>>3210589
Four party members
Deborah(DS only)
More recruitable monsters.
Some name changes
About it really.
>>3210589
V's DS port adds the best waifu.
>>3210589
The later versions of DQV add party chat, which adds a huge amount of characterization to the characters, because they react to pretty much everything: they have something to say after every NPC you talk to, every new location you enter, after every event, it's awesome.
>>3210649
Do you still have to push a button for party chat? I kept forgetting that in 4.
>>3210649
Does that happen with each of the monsters too?
>>3210525
Not in Dragon Quest VI, no sir.
The Slime Knight is a good recruitable monster because it's compatible with human equipments and has healing spells, but in Dragon Quest VI anyone can learn healing spells, plus Lizzie is also compatible with human equipments, and has ridiculous stats.
Lizzie is better than all your heroes in everything, HP, MP, attack, defense, agility, wisdom, plus she already comes with one of the secret classes unlocked, she's absolutely broken.
I'd also argue that the King Cureslime is the best DQ V monster, but that's for a different reason.
>Best Game?
3. Get a ship, get a dragon, visit the world from 1, fuck shit up day and night, reclass and grind for as long as you want.
>Best Protag?
Erdrick from 1. Went solo, killed shit.
>Best Waifu?
Kill yourself.
>Best Boss?
The final boss of 2. If you aren't almost completely tapped, you will be.
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Dunno, didn't get far enough in 5, and haven't tried 6 yet.
>>3210725
we buds
>>3210735
>>3210725
>Erdrick from 1
Nigga Erdrick was 3
Is reclassing in 3 really necessary?
I'm right before Necrogond and even though I can beat them many monsters like the troll can oneshot my priest/wizard with its critical hit and if I got ambushed by the blizzard spamming clouds I'm basically fucked. I'm not really sure if I should grind/reclass or just push through.
SNES ver btw
>>3211105
>Is reclassing in 3 really necessary?
I played 3 for the first time on GBC recently and reclassing felt pretty optional.
If you're doing something like two melee + caster, you might as well make the caster a sage to get all the spells.
>>3211146
Yeah, currently the only thing in my mind is just making my wizard/priest a sage. I'm not sure how to reclass my soldier, maybe I shouldn't. Thanks.
>>3211105
No, in fact most players I know will only reclass one of their characters to sage.
Fighters don't earn any MP and have pathetic wisdom, mages turned into fighters have weak spells, and priests turned into fighters don't have MP enough to be reliable.
On the other hand mages and priests don't have acess to strong equipments, so if you turn a fighter into a spellcaster, they will still remain pretty weak anyway.
Turning a fighter into a fighter (martial artist/warrior) also isn't necessary, because they will already hit the stats cap without reclassing.
Also turning a mage into a priest or a priest into a mage is a waste, because the sage has acess to better equipments, so you may as well just get a sage.
tl;dr just get one or two sages
Is DQ
>real nigga shit?
I only played Final fantasy 7 and 8
And star ocean 2
>>3211216
Yeah, it's OG JRPG
Kinda not retro but has anyone here played the 3ds version if VII? I never played VII and wanted tp hear your thoughts on it.
I really the design of the main character, every other dq protag has a cool stoic look and then you have this dorky kid with is dumb hat.
>generic tsundere is a good character
Anime is poisonous.
>>3210523
>he still shit-posts past the age of 14
>>3211440
>generic tsundere is a good character
>bad
Dude, tsundere is always win man.
>>3210519
V
V
Alena
V
Psaro/Necrosaro
Healslime
>>3211765
>that extra V
whoops
>>3211426
It's real sweet is my opinion, but I never played the PSX original. The characters are fun and the game just goes on and on, but it works well thanks to its episodic structure. You go to some new place, end up in the middle of a tragedy and do your best to resolve the situation, then later get to see how it all turned out. The writing is pretty clever making you care about each location, its residents and their stories, and if you enjoy that stuff there's just so much of it.
Serious contender for favorite RPG for me, it's at the very least within top 3.
Best girls are Debora and Alena.
Could this be the best DQ world map BGM?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idC2jzBYsp8
>>3212167
Yes.
>TFW you finally recruit this fucker after hours of grinding
So good
>>3210721
>The Slime Knight is a good recruitable monster because it's compatible with human equipment
So is the slime knight really a monster, or is he just a midget on a slime?
>>3212649
A midget monster on a slime.
How's the android port of DQ1?
>>3210519
Sometimes I forget that they retconned the first game's hero to look like a faggot.
Then someone posts this.
>>3212646
>once got him without trying
>look up odds later
Holy fuck
>>3214035
It's funny how only the very first hero wears heavy armor in official art. All the others wear medium or light armor.
>>3210519
>Best Game?
I think V is the best by far. They're all timeless, though.
>Best Protag?
Madason, Erdrick and Erdrick's Descendant (1)
>Best Waifu?
Bianca, Alena and Nera
>Best Boss?
Zoma
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Slime Knight
>Best Husbando?
Pankraz andYangus. Sorry but I can't disregard him.
>>3214035
>they retconned the first game's hero to look like a faggot
Wait, really? Where does he look like that? I've never seen that art before and I refuse to believe that's the Hero from 1.
Do the Monster's games count? If so then those are high on my lists, I played the shit out of them as a kid. DQM for the game boy was one of the first games I ever played.
>>3217371
The title's right on the image, you clueless moron.
>>3217597
pwnd!
>>3217597
But that's not the game that retconned him.
>>3217371
The retcon came from Kenshin Dragon Quest, which was something of a prototype Dragon Quest Swords (pic related is what you play the game with), and was released only in Japan. The game is basically a retelling of the original Dragon Quest, and they gave Erdrick's Descendant a new look for it, that has been used subsequently in many other games, including Monster Battle Road I and II, which is what OP's picture is.
>>3210710
If the monsters have anything to say, it's nonsense that they repeat the entire game.
>>3210519
Monsters 2
Prince Harry
Bianca
Puppetor
Slime Knight
What's goin on in this thread?
>>3220438
Hello there.
>>3220438
Every time I'm grinding and I need to slaughter these fuckers I'm grinding my teeth into dust.
>tfw finishing DQI and starting DQII tonight
Wish me luck, bros.
>>3212167
I knew I recognized the first theme you get for the Stormcloud in Dragon Quest Heroes. My own favorite overworld theme, though? It's probably the theme that comes from when your Hero is going solo in IV.
>>3220438
Oh, nothing. Just wondering whether or not I should uncurse this Hela's Hammer off me.
>>3221679
Can you uncurse weapons?
>>3221574
Just beat DQ 1 SNES and in the middle of DQ 2 mobile, which versions did you play?
>>3221751
No. He's talking about the act of removing off cursed equipment by visiting a church.
>>3221767
Some cursed equipment is rather worth it, though. Hela's Hammer, at least in IV (dunno about the other games) is a crit-or-miss weapon, which makes it the perfect weapon for metal slime hunting. Even going with just Sofia, I've done grinding in Zenithia Tower in the room that spawns a shitload of Metal King Slimes in the DS version (forgot if it does so in the NES version too) and gotten Sofia up to Lv. 99 no sweat with that thing.
>>3221759
I have I-IV on the NES. I played I and III on the GBC long ago, but I want to play the originals. I'll probably do V and VI on my 3DS emulator.
>>3221574 anon here. I got fucked by a Red Dragon who put me to sleep mere inches away from the fucking dragon lord. I am pissed as fuck. Is Level 19 not enough?
Which one?
>>3223135
whichever one you want!
>>3223032
>Is Level 19 not enough?
You could do it, but a couple more levels wouldn't hurt. 22 is as high as you'd ever need to get. But levels won't help you against the random number god deciding to put you to sleep. That's just shit luck, m8. Still in the time it took me to notice and reply to you, you've probably already killed that sucker, right?
>>3225756
I actually have been out of the house the last couple days, I'm going to tackle it again hopefully tonight. I might just grind so I can be a clean, nice Level 20 rather than an ugly odd numbered Level 19.
rise from your grave
>>3223135
Helmet is the right answer.
The armor is a waste, everyone that can equip it can also equip a stronger armor that you can just buy in the shop of the next town.
Shield isn't useless, but it's very underrelming. Assuming you will give the 2 Metal King Shield to Mireyu/Milly and Chamoro/Nevan, then all the other characters that would benefit from the shield can also equip the Ogre Shield+, that you can buy as much as you want and is just as strong.
The helmet on the other hand is the best helmet Chamoro/Nevan can equip, simple as that.
>>3221895
IV is a great one on the DS as well, just saying. The bonus content in Chapter 6 is an awful lot of fun.
>>3230307
Some hate the ds version for its questionable translation so it depends. I'm hoping someday we get a retranslation as that one is my favorite and the ds version is the best version.
>>3230401
The only thing about it that I'm not fond of is that they left out the Party Chat in the US version. The translations actually don't bother me at all, even if the accents are kind of silly. I can't speak for the NotRussian bunch (huehuehue), but thinks like how Ragnar and Taloon speak? They're actually pretty well-done, for whatever that means to a phonetic accent.
I mean, read this, and tell me that Ragnar wouldn't talk like that.
https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland
>When you grind at the casino by abusing saves and get endgame equipment on your party during early parts of the game
>>3230459
Oh boy, I bet that's tedious.
>>3230459
I do that in every DQ game that allows it.The casinos are pretty damn comfy.I got a metal slime sword for the Hero and my best bro slime knight pretty early on in DQV.
>>3230459
>Metal Babble Shields for everyone!
>DS changes it to Falcon Blade
...Well, it's definitely not a bad thing to have, like, at all, but you can only really get much of a chance to use it if you get all the tokens you need in Chapter 2 (easiest way is with the monster arena, since the monsters in the arena are very predictable at this point, what with the bestiary being so small) and wait until you come back with the Hero in Chapter 5.
>>3230459
In Persona 1, I broke the game wide open by getting the number guessing thing on my first try.
>>3230484
By 'abusing saves' he means savestates, so no not tedious. It's like 3 minutes of work in some games. Take poker in 7: Win a single hand, savescum, double or nothing, reload if you get nothing, double or nothing again, and again and again and again. Basically as far as the game is concerned you one a single hand of cards and broke the bank with lucky choices.
>>3230970
That's a tedious way of cheating.
>>3231021
Not really.
>>3230970
>Abusing a built-in game feature is cheating
I remember a game on Super Famicom called Tengai Makyou Zero that auto saves everything you do with your "tamagotchi" garden, so if you kill one of them, they will remain dead even if you load your game.
>>3220369
>Monsters 2
My Slime
I definitely spent too many hours on this game on gb pocket and emulators throughout the years. My last run, I took Slash and kept breeding him until I had a Slime that had 999 in every stat and all ridiculous spells, HealUsAll, BigBang, Hellblast, Megamagic, that sort of thing.
To this day I've never seen Soul Tower though, just Brawn and Brain.
>>3231507
Pretty sure being able to save right in the middle of gambling isn't a feature of dragon quest
>>3230970
Well in the case of VI, I'm playing on the 3DS, so yes I have to use regular saves.
Since I just recruited Amos, I may as well go back to the casino for an extra set of platinum mail and a dragon shield.
>>3230413
>I mean, read this, and tell me that Ragnar wouldn't talk like that.
>https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland
That's hilarious.
>>3231021
How? That's a 1 minute process that breaks the game. Literally quicker and easier than looking up and entering a cheat code.
Finally did it bros. Onto II.
>>3233763
I tried it in 4 and it took a lot longer than that.
>>3231021
I did it in Persona 1 with the code breaker machines. The answers didn't change if you saved when you started the puzzle.
>>3210519
>Best Game?
Having played all the ones released in the west, I would say Dragon Quest VIII. Though if the remake of Dragon Quest VII on 3DS is as good as it sounds, that may overtake it.
>Best Protag?
Probably the hero from DQV just because he had such a hard life but kept going. Though from a story standpoint, I prefer the way they handled the hero in DQVIII. Making him effectively a tag along until the post game, where we learn there was a purpose to him being on the team. Its kind of the best of both types.
>Best Waifu?
Biancasince I played a version without the hick accent.
>Best Boss?
My favorite is probably fighting the multiple guys in the Arena with Alena.
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
In terms of strength and versatility, Great Dragon or King Cureslime. But you only get slimes in DQVI so in that game, its Slime Knight, since he can do both the slimopolous and costume contest.
>>3232560
Ragnar doesn't come from Scotland. Its just a simple matter of suspension of disbelief. As well as realizing the original Japanese didn't have the accents.
Daily reminder
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/05/10/dragon-quest-series-celebrate-30th-anniversary-live-stream-may-26/
>>3237567
I'll watch it. But I doubt they'll be announcing any western release. Unless Yuji Horii pulls out another 'slip'.
>>3237647
I thought the new game was already confirmed for a western release? And considering we've had a decent track record for the series lately with more and more games being finally localized, I wouldn't be super surprised.
>>3237662
Horii "slipped" that it was going to be translated, but Square immediately backtracked and told everyone to pay him no mind, and to be sure to buy Dragon Quest Heroes to support future releases.
>>3237562
It's been awhile since I played V on the DS, but I thought she had a Cornish accent? If they didn't then, they have her with one now that she's got a voice actress for Heroes.My own waifu, personally, would be Meena, but that's me. I really hope she's in the Heroes sequel.
>>3237679
Heroes was selling out at most of the Gamestops I come near, so I imagine it must have done something to pique Squeenix's interest. It may not be anywhere near as popular in the US as it is in Japan, but it does at least look profitable to export, if that's a sign of anything.
>>3237662
Yuji Horii announced DQVII and VIII for 3DS were getting localized, before SquareEnix announced it. He also let slip that Dragon Quest XI is going to be on the Nintendo NX, which SquareEnix quickly covered up. But as far as I know, he didn't hint that DQXI was going to be localized.
I am hoping that the increase in recent DQ releases will mean we're returning to the PS2/DS days, where we got more constant releases. The current head of SquareEnix of Japan seems to be moving away from focusing on Final Fantasy and more towards releasing all games to the west. But it remains to be seen if that actually happens. The politics in SquareEnix are so mind boggling that we can never predict what they'll do. And even a secondary localization manager seems to be able to usurp the wishes of the CEO of the company.
>>3237756
Square said that it might be on NX when it was announced. Horii let it "slip" that XI was going to be localized, during a convention or whatever in France.
>>3237780
>Horii let it "slip" that XI was going to be localized, during a convention or whatever in France.
Pretty sure that slip in France was about DQVII and VIII.
https://mynintendonews.com/2015/07/04/rumour-yuji-horii-apparently-announced-dragon-quest-vii-and-viii-for-west-at-japan-expo/
I hope he also said it about DQXI somewhere. And I hope to god SquareEnix is also going to consider DQX now that its going to China.
>>3237756
SE seems like they're starting to localize more and more games, which is nice. Great that they're giving us Romancing Saga 2, even if it is on mobile I had completely given up on the franchise in the west.
DQX... Localization... When...
>>3237939
When you, me and about a million other people sign a petition. But the problem is finding those million other people.
Has anyone ever watched the DQ anime?
>>3237843
You should learn Japanese anyway so you can play whatever versions you want of whatever games you want in their original language.
Games like DQ are great for beginners.
>>3237972
Dai no Daibouken only had 12 episodes subbed when I found it. Wonder if it was completed. Haven't even found raws for the other one.
>>3237973
I actually did start on Japanese. I got through the first segment of Tae Kim (all of the "basic grammar") and then tried to read some beginner material and got disheartened when I couldn't understand any of the grammar at all. I've been meaning to pick it back up.
>>3237976
Yūsha Aberu Densetsu has more subbed. Anime-Koi did the first ten episodes, the rest have been undertaken by some Youtuber who is translating a few episodes a month. I'd watch it but
>anime on Youtube
>>3237820
Oh, whoops, I guess I'm mixed up.
Sorry, Anon.
As a fun exercise, I am going to guage how much I would have spent on SquareEnix games this gen vs how much I actually did spend.
Games I have bought so far:
Final Fantasy XIV: ARR - $42
Final Fantasy XIV - Heavensward: $30
Final Fantasy XIV Subscription: $0
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy - $40
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy: Curtain Call - $40
Dragon Quest Heroes - $60
Total: $212.00
Games I would have bought so far if they were released to the west:
Dragon Quest X - $60
Dragon Quest X: First Expansion - $40
Dragon Quest X: Second Expansion - $40
Dragon Quest X Subscription (estimation of 3 years worth of subs) - $432
Dragon Quest VII Remake - $40
Dragon Quest VIII Remake - $40
Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest 3: Taikaizoku to Shippo Dan - $40
Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland Remake - $40
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Remake - $40
Theatrhythm Dragon Quest - $40
Dragon Quest Heroes - $60
Final Fantasy XIV: ARR - $42
Final Fantasy XIV - Heavensward: $30
Final Fantasy XIV Subscription: $0
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy - $40
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy: Curtain Call - $40
Total: $884.00
Well, I guess I can thank SquareEnix for helping me save money.
>>3230413
missing party chat is pretty huge, that's half of the fun of 4-6
>>3221574
Hey me too! Finished DQ1 last week and I'm 8-10 hours into the ones version of DQ2. Pretty great so far
>>3237567
after that last anniversary livestream earlier this year, fuck no
>>3237756
>I am hoping that the increase in recent DQ releases will mean we're returning to the PS2/DS days, where we got more constant releases. The current head of SquareEnix of Japan seems to be moving away from focusing on Final Fantasy and more towards releasing all games to the west. But it remains to be seen if that actually happens. The politics in SquareEnix are so mind boggling that we can never predict what they'll do. And even a secondary localization manager seems to be able to usurp the wishes of the CEO of the company.
Since we're getting stuff even more-niche stuff like Romancing SaGa 2 and I Am Setsuna now, I'm pretty confident we'll get DQXI. I don't expect us to get DQMJ3 though.
>>3210519
>Best Game?
Not retro, but this.
>>3210793
Then who was 1?
>>3221759
This guy.
Just beat 2. Malroth was giving me some trouble. I went and ground out two more levels and no one in my party even died once when I went back.
Overall a far better game than the first and the Android port is really nice.
Anyone have any cool concept/obscure art?
Found this early Nera art, quite cool.
>>3239113
>>3239137
Holy fuck there's even official art of it.
>>3239308
>>3238109
Man, I imported Theatrhythm DQ, to play on my "normal" 3DS using Homebrew's Region Free. I love Dragon Quest, and I'm addicted to the Theatrhythm games
>Mfw I had to play it on my Japanese 3DS, due the Free DLC
>Mfw I find tons of changes that requires read moonrunes
>Mfw THIS is the only translation-help that I can find
>(google-docs-link)/spreadsheets/d/161bESjmDjBurS9pYku8QuN47bWHkUyR4MPBm_08wSWM/
Hard times to be a DQ fan...
>>3239328
Arina, Manya and Minea don't have the harem potential of 3.
>>3239513
Mostly because any single one of them would make you their bitch, especially Alena. Kiryl and Borya are pretty much her own harem already, and I wouldn't be surprised if she broadened her tastes a bit and took the Mahabala sisters into it, maybe even Sofia.
>>3239617
Clift may want that but she only thinks about kicking stuff down.
>>3210519
>Best Game?
Dragon Quest V.
>Best Protag?
None of them have personality so based on their
design alone i will go withXI.
>Best Waifu?
Bianca.
>Best Boss?
Psaro cus muh sad story :'(
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Slime Knights are the best bros.
>>3211105
Not in the Famicom and Super Famicom versions
but in the Game Boy Color version changing classes
is necessary due to a super hidden hard boss called Divine
Dragon which can give you the Rubyss Sword (the most powerful weapon in the game), beating the boss even requires you to drop the main hero in favor of a better warrior mostly because the hero
can not change classes. Divine Dragon is like pic related but golden.
>>3239639
That she is both willing and able to kick down magically sealed doors to save her friend is both endearing and soul-crushing to him.
>>3234810
Nice. I never played the NES version but I had it for GBC.
I should start II myself, beat I-V except for that game
I like Dragon Quest. If Dragon Quest X had come here, I'd probably be playing it every day.
Dragon Quest IOS/Android are on sales. Just saying
I'm gonna buy DQ3 since is the only DQ I never played
>>3210519
>Best game
I can't choose between III-V and VIII, they're all so good (as well as some of the others I didn't mention). III really pulled me into the series, so it holds a special place in my hearts.
>Best Protag
Lacking in personality as they are, I really don't care about them.
>Best Waifu
Manya
>Best Boss
No idea
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
I don't know, maybe Golem?
I spent most of last year playing DQ I-IX for the first time. It took forever, but it was fun.
>>3211426
I liked it. Never played the PSX version, but I enjoyed the 3DS version and most of the changes sound nice. Some aren't though, like the fact that you can't keep some higher level skills when changing jobs. It's a really fucking long game, but i never really felt like it was padded out to me, it just felt like a long adventure.
Has anyone ever made a fixed version of the SNES DQ2 translation with all those Cannock glitches, or should I just play the Game Boy version and avoid that shit altogether?
>>3242982
I don't believe a fix has ever been made.
>>3242982
Did the translation add those?
I don't recall severe glitches in the untranslated version.
>>3214238
JRPG Heroes in general don't wear armor, except in a few notable exceptions. Look at Manga. Do Manga/Anime heroes wear armor?
>>3217352
10/10 taste.
>>3243007
yeah, the patch adds them. First glitch is in the above pic. If you talk to that clone Prince he replaces your Prince with his HP and MP stats set back to level 1, though you keep the other stats the same. Wouldn't actually be much of a problem except that it also makes you lose the Princess, and she can't be replaced because the Mirror is gone.
The other glitch is if you rest in the town where the Prince gets sick. When you bring the Leaf to heal him it starts and endless text loop. This one can be bypassed by temporarily playing your save file on an unpatched rom to get through that part.
I think I've heard another NPC causes an endless text loop too but I don't know the exact details.
Thinking of picking up DQIII on Android since it's on sale. Does it run on Marshmallow?
>>3243062
That reminds me, I could probably make another Dragon Quest thread on /u/ right about now.
>>3243062
Good god no. It's a completely gutted SFC version. You may as well just emulate.
>tfw the last tnt board
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee, i just want starkers
Also, anyone else intersted in they'll show in the aniversary stream tomrrow morning at 5:30 pst
>>3243371
It offers a bigger field of view.
>>3244553
You are the worst person.
>>3244553
not worth the terrible controls and lack of content. steal the game or buy a Super Famicom.
>>3244573
>"this is a pretty nice image"
>get to Loto's face
>"i take it back"
>>3238651
Only one i've played, it's good and I still want to finish it, but the character designs are weird to me. Do other people think this is the best one?
>>3244553
At the cost of non-animated enemies.
>>3243020
the beran inn freeze is caused by his name length and can be avoided by using the rename feature. 5 letters and below is ok. 7 freezes.
i should have tested 6
>>3244687
and no pachisi tracks
among several other things
>>3211426
The most drastic change is in the class system. Basic skills can be retained and carried over when you change, but advanced ones cannot. Also, what skills you have in a class depends on what other class skills you've learned. Also monster classes teach advanced skills of other classes that can be carried over.
It's a pretty complicated affair, but basically it means you can't go all powerful. It's doable, but not as easily as in PS1.I hope we get the mobile version too, I don't have a 3DS.
>>3243062
Get the DS ports, not 1-3.
First three can be gotten elsewhere but the second trilogy is a bready good porting job. Hell, IV is better because it restores party chat.
so what happened with the livestream that was supposed to happen today
>>3245287
It doesn't. It's severely gutted.
>tfw I can play the whole series on my 3DS
Feels good.
>>3244573
That image is wrong since the female Soldier shouldn't wear panties.
>>3243020
>I think I've heard another NPC causes an endless text loop too but I don't know the exact details.
It's one near the exit of Rhone after you beat the game. I was so fucking mad.
>>3210548
II had the best world because it expanded on I.
Should I play DQ 1-3 on GBC or SFC (with english translation patches)?
>>3248181
SFC has better graphics and more viewing distance
GBC has an easier grind, and the GBC version of III has an additional bonus dungeon
Those are the main differences.
>>3248298
Thanks anon, I appreciate that.
what are some bosses that gave you guys trouble?
The dude on the Isle of Smiles or whatever in DQVI was pretty tough. The Lion asshole in DQIV also gave me trouble on my first run.
There's something I never quite understood in regards to dragon quest:
>Toriyama's stuff is charming but he has a limited palette of faces
>Porn artists still make fucking amazing smut
I'm not even kidding there are so many good doujins out there.
>>3248526
I remember psaro being the only boss to ever give me any trouble, he killed me about 3-4 times. Other then him I've never really had trouble with any specific bosses.
http://nintendoeverything.com/yuji-horii-looking-to-bring-passwords-back-in-dragon-quest-xi/
>passwords in a modern game
the madman!
>>3248553
You either didn't play DQVII or grinded like a motherfucker.
>>3248947
Haven't played VII yet actually, wanted to start it but hearing the 3ds version announced made me decide to wait for it. How tough is that one?
>>3248952
It's not hard.
It's just long.
>>3248961
Yeah I know it's notorious for its length, 120 hours I believe. Don't know if I'm more excited or nervous about that length to be honest.
>>3248526
The boss from the sisters' chapter, when you come back with the full party in the main chapter in IV.
>>3248526
Balzack/Ballsackin Chapter IV for Dragon Quest IV was always a problem for me, but not a huge one, it was mostly as a kid that he was too difficult for me to beat. His second form in Chapter V is a total chump once you have someone in your party with Fullheal. Hell, even doing a solo run with Sofia, I stomped him pretty handily when that spell came into play. The only other bosses that were trouble for me going solo were Psaro (mostly during the phase where he casts a bunch of spells, because he'd nailed me twice with Whack), Foo Yung and Chow Mein, andAamonon the DS version. The last one there I had to grind up to level 99 to be able to beat him, because when he put me to sleep, I had to be at full health (over 900 HP) to survive the onslaught until the sleep was done.
Empyrea and Captain Crow usually gave me some trouble in VIII, and Dhoulmagus' second form was only hard if you weren't set up right.
>>3248547
Definitely. I made a /u/ thread that pretty much lived off of the doujins (admittedly short ones, but still). The thread lasted for about a year and a half.
>>3248526
The martial arts thief guy in 4. He kept raising his defense and I forgot to include a debuffer in my party so it took forever to bring him down with critical hits.
![[SaHa] Let's Have An Adventure! 01.png](https://i.imgur.com/g8saEX6.png "[SaHa] Let's Have An Adventure! 01.png")
>>3210562
My nigga.
>>3248932
Feels good man.
>>3242982
The GC port is quite good, i started playing DQ in game boy and dont regret it.
>>3248970
3DS version supposedly trims the fat a little
you are walking in the forest when this motherfucker shows up
what do you do
>>3252469
Submerge my dick in it.
>>3252552
lewd
>>3210519
>Best Game?
V and VI are both pretty great
>Best Protag?
Carver
>Best Waifu?
Debora, even if she's DS only
>Best Boss?
Stormsgate Citadel from VI
>Best recruitable monster in V and VI?
Slime Knight was pretty much my right-hand mon through 5 until I got the kids
>>3210519
What's your guys opinion on the importance of playing the games in order? I've played I, II and III in order and was planning to continue that, but I recently picked upVIIIand really, really want to play it right away.
>>3252469
Kill him and take that 53000 xp he owes me.
>>3253113
Just play it man, it won't matter as they all stand on their own fine. VII alone is over a hundred hours so it would be a LONG time before you played VIII.
>>3244640
I do. It's my favorite.
>>3252469
Hela's Hammer.
40% chance of killing any metal enemies in one hit.
>>3253113
There's two trilogies - 1-3 and 4-6. You get the most out of them if you go in order, but it doesn't matter which trilogy you do first, or if you do any of the other ones.
So, skipping to 8 would be just fine, and if you just did 3 that's actually optimal because references. Do 4-6 in order when you do get to those ones. Or don't, I'm not your mom.
>>3253113
Don't worry, only I-II-III and IV-V-VI share common themes and locations.
>>3252469
Flee immediately just to give the fucker a taste of its own medicine
>First mainline DQ is Dragon Warrior 7
>Convoluted time travel story that's disjointed and doesn't really matter until the near end
>Don't know what do next all the time
>Get stuck on a boss, look them up
>This boss is super easy, just use Ultrahit/Gigaslash with your attackers and hustle if you get low on health
>This is like the second boss you get after classes
>Didn't realize the guy was doing ungodly amounts of grinding
>So that's what I think I should be at at that point of the game and have godhand/hero/summoner at that point
At least that's over with. I just beat DQV and I liked it a lot more, and ordered the DS versions of 4 and 6. Should I play the rest of the series in order or are there some that are so good I should play them right away?
>>3254028
Really like I said in >>3253492 it's cool playing them in order and seeing the little advances they made but honestly they all stand on their own just fine. IV is my personal favorite so I hope you enjoy it anon.
>>3254051
Not that guy but should I play IV DS, SNES, or NES?
>>3254797
There is no DQ4 on the SNES.
How's your Japanese?
>>3254797
/vr/ will jump on me but I'd say that the DS version is the best. The only real drawback in the lack of party chat which is also unavaliable in the NES version and accents that can get annoying at times but not as bad as people say
>>3253619
>skipping 8
>ever
>>3255880
>reading comprehension
I actually just started 8 now. It's the general rule to pick one weapon per character and then their specialty skill?
8 is mostly for graphics and music, the gameplay doesn't really do anything special.
>>3256336
>>3256379
...Dammit, I'm a retard.
Whatever here's some tittymonster.
>>3256579
I really like that picture.
So I heard that aside from a non-broken class system and crippled tutorial puzzle dungeon, DQ VII 3ds only has some minor changes.
But what changes were made from the original DQ VIII when being remade for 3ds?
>>3256708
all I know is 2 new party members + enemies o the map + the ability to marry Jessica in the ending
I'm surprised there's no autists on /vr/ arguing over what the series name should be. Let's change that.
>>3256708
some scenes were censored. that one guy doesn't eat dog food and marcello does a magic spell instead of cutting his own arm.
every extra jessica outfit is censored. her normal outfit made it without censorship thankfully.
and this is just the jap release.
the 3ds version uses the jap ps2 menu system, so get ready to see classic dq text menus instead of the pause menu we got.
random encounters being on the map is a huge change though and is poorly implemented. you can literally walk past all battles unless you're in a tight space.
>>3256924
Well, that looks like the jp version, so maybe the english version will have english pause menu.
And elevens censoring their own game for themselves? Madness!
>>3257030
supposedly the JP ratings board (CERO) has gotten stricter lately
I play through one of them every year. I think this year I'll do DQIII or DQVIII.
>>3242870
How is DQ3 on Android?
Would I be better off emulating the SNES version on my PSP?
Was thinking of setting up a retro gamestation.
Not sure how that would work, raspberry pi + crt tv. Would that work okay?
>>3257191
>How is DQ3 on Android?
Completely gutted.
>Would I be better off emulating the SNES version on my PSP?
Yes.
>>3256924
>every extra jessica outfit is censored.
da fuq
do we have screenshots of this travesty?
>>3242982
The glitch with the prince occurs because of his name. His name is randomly chosen from a set based on the name you enter for the main hero. However, it has a high chance of being "Rolondo" which is 7 characters. DQII on the SNES was built with 6 characters max in mind. This extra character fucks up a lot of things later on.
There are two ways to get around this glitch.
1. Rename the prince to something shorter. Go to the file select screen, pick out your file, then hold Left + Start, and press A, and you should have a naming prompt.
2. Play the GBC version. It's based off of the SNES version and it's portable and quite good.
>>3257562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvKhK9RfbE
>>3257850
So it's the translation patch's fault.
Good to know.
>>3258103
That's not so bad.
>>3256859
>No new party members in VII
They could have easily made the angel girl or the cucked bard party members, or even that boy from the arena before you get classes
>tfw you fucked up in recruiting Amos and you already saved
>>3258103
>EVERY OUTFIT IS CENSORED OMFG
>nope just a couple outfits have some who-gives-a-fuck tweaks
Overreact more.
>>3258103
The most notable part of this is how much better the PS2's graphics are than the 3DS. Not that I was expecting differently... but wow. Big difference.
>>3259103
>Amos
and nothing of value was lost
>>3259140
More costumes were added, actually.
Begone, Page 10
How's this for a class setup on DQVI?
Hero : Gladiator>Hero
Carver: Gladiator, Ranger
Milly: Luminary
Ashllyn: Sage, Armamentalist
Nevan: Sage, Paladin
Amos: Gladiator
Terry: Just stick with his gladiator class
Goowain: Paladin
Lizzie: Dragon, Gladiator
Not sure what to build the other slimes as.
>>3260913
Personally here's how I like it.
First, give everyone 1 rank in both priest and mage the moment you unlock the abbey so everyone has an 80 damage magic attack and heal. Optional: give everyone 1 rank in dancer so they can stop a foe for one turn if they're not being useful otherwise.
Oh, and once you get Amos say goodbye to having Ashlynn or Nevan in your main party ever again since they're so weak. Give the ghent staff to whoever you want healing (i.e. whoever is doing the least damage/buffing) and don't feel constrained by classes since without grinding you won't get multiheal/hustle dance until late game anyway and fullheal isn't needed until then either. Personally though I made Hero a sage because magic is strong early on and kazing on the only person brought back after a wipe is godly. I made Amos a ranger, later replaced him with Healie who I also made a ranger. Fun fact: Call to Arms is fucking awesome assuming the foe doesn't resist summons. Carver was a monk and from there you can go wither paladin or gladiator, do note that going gladiator you'll get hatchet man along the way for metal slimes and paladin gets a hit-all attack earlier (thin air vs boulder toss). Milly, Ashlynn and Nevan were all also made sages because if you aren't gonna attack physically then at least sit back as an MP pool for out of battle healing, or in battle in Milly's case. You could make her a luminary and get hustle dance instead of waiting for multiheal on a sage, it would also make your team look more balanced what with sage hero. Ashlynn going sage serves a double purpose since you can switch her in and magic burst nuke a team off of high sage mp when you're desperate.
Terry sucks but looks cool just give him the sage's stone (win it at the fashion show) and have him either use that or his sunderbolt blade, or maybe just wind sickles. His class doesn't matter really, gladiator does have survivability though. Maybe go ranger with him too. Lizzie stronk as anything.
>>3260913
The Dragon class does everything the Gladiator class does, but better, there's no reason to teach Lizzie it.
Training more than one slime may be a waste of time, but remember that you can't learn Omniheal through the class system, only Healie and Curie can learn it.
I'd have the Hero as Luminary and Milly as Sage, but your team will do the job, there isn't really an obvious best team like in FFV.
>>3260976
>once you get Amos say goodbye to having Ashlynn or Nevan in your main party ever again since they're so weak
You do realize now that Nevan is better than Milly in everything.
>>3261001
Except looks.
Are you saying you don't want a hot piece of ass like Milly in your party?
>>3261001
So you'd let your main healer have a speed like that? Okay, your funeral, I'm not paying the priest to revive you though. Oh and both their attacks are shit, and the biggest difference in their defence comes from their armor, which Nevan will not be wearing with Hero and Carver doing all the damage.
>>3261256
>main healer
Wrong
>the biggest difference in their defence comes from their armor, which Nevan will not be wearing
What? I equiped Milly with the best equipments for this screenshot, but Nevan is literally with those equipments. Final game looks like
Hero
Sword of Ramias++
Metal King Armour
Shield of Valora
Metal King Helm
Carver
Flail of Destruction
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm
Milly
Solar Fan
Dragon Robe/Angel Leotard
Metal King Shield
Happy Hat/Golden Tiara
Ashlynn
Gringham Whip
Dragon Robe/Angel Leotard
Silver Shield
Happy Hat/Golden Tiara
Nevan
Metal King Sword
Metal King Armour
Metal King Shield
Helmet of Max Wynne
Terry
Orichalcum Fangs
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm
Amos
Flail of Destruction
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm
Lizzie
Flail of Destruction
Metal King Armour
Ogre Shield+
Metal King Helm
>with Hero and Carver doing all the damage
Their MP isn't enough to cast Big Banga
>>3261289
>Big Banga
Oh of course I forgot how before beating the game everyone has access to that and not you know getting oomphed and smacking the shit outta everything. And how before beating the game everyone should have metal king armor.
>>3261328
I don't know what's your point anymore.
Initially you were trying to prove that Milly is better than Nevan because of her agility.
Then you complained about his offensive game, even though Milly isn't any stronger.
Then you complained about his equipments, even though Milly's equipments are worse.
Then you complained about the lack of acess to a skill, even though this applies to Milly too.
>>3261374
Honestly I just think he's ugly like this guy said >>3261023 but don't want to admit it.
Also, if they're equal in bad attack and lack of a skill, and Nevan is competing with 2 others (3 if you count Lizzie) for good equipment until post-game post-scarcity, then shouldn't Millie's higher agility be the deciding factor?
>>3261408
Well, even without equipments, Nevan's HP, MP, resilence, strength and wisdom are better. Not by much though.
I think he's better at the end of the game, but at mid game there are points were Milly is better, sure.
>>3261456
Well, one other reason to have milly in the party in early midgame and not nevan, is because nevan has zing and if he dies then you're shilling out pre-post-scarcity gold to revive him, so you should keep him in reserve to revive everyone else. Assuming you don't just grind everyone to 8 priest immediately that is.
>>3260982
Any reason to have the hero as the Luminary?
You search the bookshelves and find "1001 monster jokes"
"What does a cureslime do with a skateboard?A healflip!"
>Best waifu
>>3261817
That's not Debora.
>>3258225
Actually, I just tested it out. Changing the name will fix the loop with the prince side-quest. However, the NPC in Rhone will still soft-lock you once you kill the final boss. Make a savestate.
>>3261798
Luminary is like a weaker Sage that has costless spells.
Since lightning spells from the hero class are costy, I think it would be a good idea to have access to costless skills, so the Hero won't run out of MP too easily.
Maybe this isn't necessary at all and I just value healing power too much.
Since at the end of the day I just try to learn every single class with every character, I may not be qualified to tell for sure which class combination is the best.
>>3260982
>The Dragon class does everything the Gladiator class does, but better, there's no reason to teach Lizzie it.
Do learn Martial Artist though.
>>3262467
I'm not saying go all the way for martial arts, but wind sickles is invaluable.
>>3262478
Why stop before knuckle sandwich?
>>3262485
Because of the shitty hit rate. I have more hatchet-man hits than knuckle sandwich hits, possibly coincidence though.
>>3261817
lol no
>>3262904
>being a brony
>>3261817
DQ has many redheads.
Looks like Nintendo will be showing off 7 3DS' English localization for the first time on day 2 of E3:
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/nintendo-treehouse-live-e3-2016-detailed
Hopefully we get a release date.
I started a general on /vg/ so you can talk about modern and upcoming DQ games without worry.
>>>/vg/144205360
do you know about any games that use DQV's monster recuiting?
I already know about Pokemon Mistery Dungeon but I was wondering if more games did it
>>3263473
MonMus Quest Paradox
>we'll never have another semen demon hero like Sofia
>>3261817
She's sexy as hell in DQH.
>>3263930
>Maribel and Gabo replacing Bianca and Nera
>There are no DQV representants now
>They replaced them for this shit looking wolf kid that wasn't relevant even in his own game
I'm mad.
>>3264012
>it's a complaining about the roster episode
So you can't recruit everything in the DQ6 DS remake, among other things.
Does this noticeably detract from the experience? What remakes are worth playing/worth avoiding?
