How would you rank Konami's top five biggest retro franchises, /vr/?
>Castlevania
>Contra
>Goemon
>Gradius
>Rocket Knight
>>3209168
Contra >>> Castlevania > Gradius > Rocket Knight > Goemon
>>3209168
Uh, does Rocket Knight really fit there? At the very least Parodius is "bigger"
>>3209168
Goemon > Contra > Gradius > Rocket Knight > Castlevania
1. Castlevania
2. Goemon
3. Contra
4. Gradius
I admit I never really played any Rocket Knight game, but my 5th series would be TwinBee
>>3209191
It was popular enough to warrant a modern-day reboot, apparently.
>>3209197
You should check out RKA, it was by the same designer that made Contra. The half run 'n gun, half shmup formula is really cool. Sparkster on SNES ain't too shabby either, though he didn't make it.
Where's Tokimemo?
>>3209208
>VN's
>games
>>3209213
It's not even a VN.
>>3209205
Nakazato didn't create Contra, he only worked on the SNES and Genesis entries as director and came back later for the two PS2 entries.
Uhhhhhhhhh where's Metal Gear?
>>3209236
OVERRATED
>>3209251
He's talking about the MSX classics.
>>3209259
>MSX
The whole system is overrated.
>>3209259
No i mean MGS on PSX guy, it's retro.
>>3209236
this
you're retarded op
>>3209295
>>3209302
I found the guy who keeps making /ogg/ everyone!
>>3209312
There are multiple people that make /ogg/ threads, Sherlock.
>>3209314
>There are multiple people that make /ogg/ threads, Sherlock.
"I have multiple IPs when I make /ogg/ threads, Sherlock".
Fix'd that for ya.
I like a lot of Konami series but no one dares put Contra below any fucking game. Contra III is the best video game of all time. The levels, the weapons, the music, the characters. It's the perfect goddamn game.
>>3209324
I wish you'd stop spamming the catalog with /ogg/, it's really immature.
>>3209327
>Contra III is the best video game of all time. The levels, the weapons, the music, the characters. It's the perfect goddamn game.
>>3209328
Calling something you don't like spam isn't going to help get rid of it, you know.
>>3209332
I get that you hate MGS, but why do you have to shove it down everyone's throats?
>>3209336
Because everyone needs to know that Kojima is a hack and that MGS is a piss poor excuse of a stealth game.
>>3209345
Tell us how you really feel.
>>3209345
>Because everyone needs to know
>spam one of the slowest and least populated anonymous boards
>>3209345
And Splinter Cell did it better with its mandatory game-overs and fucking horrible shooting controls?
And Thief did it better with its abysmal AI?
And Morrowind did it be- nevermind.
Hardly any games do stealth right.
>>3209368
Tenchu was so awesome in this regard, like wow.
>>3209329
git gud scrub. that level is easy.
Goemon should be high up there. Incredible fun.
I wonder if the franchise is still alive.
>>3209375
TENCHU ftw
Also Man Hunt by RockStar
>>3209381
The top-down stages in Contra III have shit controls, shit graphics, shit hit detection (don't walk exactly along the crumbling bridge? Too bad, you die!), and look terrible in co-op mode because the screen is squished. They simply are just not well designed. Nobody wants to go around a big map looking for targets to destroy.
Also, if you think Contra III is better than Hard Corps or the two NES games, you're fucking insane.
>>3209483
>Walk into shadow
>Enemy loses sight of you
AI in that game was poo.
>>3209498
>old game doesn't have deep AI
You don't say...
>>3209510
AI being "pants on head retarded" has been criticized since the 90s.
Gradius has probably been the most consistent. I can only think of one bad entry, and that was when Konami outsourced it to Treasure.
>>3209191
Even Metal Gear makes more sense than Rocket Knight, the NES games were nothing special but Ghost Babel And MGS made a pretty big splash
CASTLEVANIA
CASTLEVANIA
woo hooo
>>3209612
MGS is the antithesis of classic arcade-y Konami.
>>3209567
Oh, it's the "Gradius V is bad because no moai" guy. It's okay, it isn't even retro anyway so you shouldn't even bother baiting with that shit.
>>3209168
Contra #1
Accept no substitutes
>>3209496
Bruh, the turning with shoulder buttons is super easy. It takes like a couple playthroughs and it's easy. But yeah it does look pretty bad on co-op, I'll give you that.
Also I say that Contra III is better than the NES and Hard Corps. fite me
>>3209625
Shut up, butthurt Treasurefag.
TMNT deserves a shout out. Sure, not an original IP but they did make a bigger splash than half of those games [at least in the US].
>>3209647
konami belt scrollers were pretty shit desu
>>3209626
Contra's pretty 50/50. On one hand you have good games like Hard Corps, Shattered Soldier, ReBirth, and Super C, but on the other hand you have crappy games like 4, Force, Legacy of War, and Adventure.
Castlevania
Contra
Gradius
Goemon
Rocket Knight
I only rank Rocket Knight that low because the sequels were just okay. The original Rocket Knight Adventures is my favorite game though.
>>3209642
lol
no Jikkyō Powerful Pro baseball
Great series
>>3209625
At least that complaint is valid. Can you name one thing that Gradius V does better than its predecessors?
>>3209754
It has the best 2 player mode in any Gradius, anyway it's not retro, so let's stop talking about it.
The "no moai" guy is a recurrent shitposter who just wants to rile up shit. Moais are cool but ultimately not having them doesn't really change anything gameplay-wise. It has a lot of other classic Gradius enemies and bosses.
>>3209168
In ten years it will be mgs 1-5.
/vr/ is fucked.
>>3209761
>It has the best 2 player mode in any Gradius
Eh? Gaiden already beat it to the punch, and the co-op is just as good in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRg3tX8Xs4s
Try again.
What are the essential Gradius games to play, /v/?
>>3209771
Gradius V gives you more Option control than any other game in the series.
This board sure jerks it to goemon
>>3209619
Nah you gotta play vr missions. Arcadey as fuck senpai
>>3209812
>dem cyborg ninja mission
>mfw
>>3209793
Not really a good thing. Freeze cheeses almost all the bosses in the game and Directional renders the stages too easy since you can aim anywhere. Rotate and the other one were already in previous Konami shmups.
>>3209806
>he doesn't love Goemon
Literally a perfect series with imaginative level designs and wonderful themes.
>>3209806
One of the comfiest series I've ever had the pleasure to play.
>>3209806
You never played Goemon? You should.
>>3209823
I never had a 64 so i have no opinion
>>3209815
Awhh shit son.
Also the stages where you kill as many as possible in a minute with different weapons
>>3209847
You gotta play 1-4 on SNES and the two on N64, RIGHT NOW.
>tfw no one cares about Silent Hill
>>3209863
kek, completely forgot about that one, sry for that pham
>>3209863
It only has 1 game that's /vr/ related.
>>3209168
>no metal gear
>no suikoden
god damn
>>3209885
Kept ya waiting, huh?
>>3209816
I'd rather have more features than fewer, especially when you can choose not to use said feature if it doesn't suit your fancy.
>>3210226
>especially when you can choose not to use said feature if it doesn't suit your fancy.
You have to use it if you want to play seriously for score, or else your score is going to suck compared to others.
>>3210229
If everyone is using the feature then it doesn't matter if it makes the game easier, only the score matters. Use the features that you don't care for only when you're competing with other people's scores, and play without them when you just want to compete with your own scores.
Or hell, just play another game, I don't care. lol
>>3210260
Yea, gimmie Gradius III over that Treasure trash any day of the week.
Contra Hard Corps >>> Gradius > Castlevania > Contra > Rocket Knight > Goemon >>> 3D Castelvania > 3D Contra
Yes, this one game is the single greatest thing to come out of Konami.
>>3210431
Where does 3D Goemon go?
>>3210438
In the trash.Actually never played it, but you set me up for that.
>>3210461
Not him but it's actually a pretty awesome game.
It's also probably the only good 3D Goemon game, the PS1 3D one is pretty bad, and the PS2 one is meh.
>>3210438
GANBARE, SO, GANBARE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Hv3rrakW0
>>3210463
Wasn't MNSG the only 3D Goemon developed by the original team in Osaka?
>>3209198
Rocket Knight wasn't popular when it came out even though its an okay game. It became recognized after the internet & roms.
DDR & Metal Gear Solid were way bigger.
>>3210498
Says you. I had a Rocket Knight on my Mega Drive that I played every day after school.
Don't expect others to share your shit taste in rhythm faggotry or '''stealth''' games.
What kind of shitty ass boss design is this?
bubububububmp
>>3210518
I wasn't a big fan of most of bosses on Castlevania Bloodlines either.
>>3210463
kek
>>3209168
I've never played a Goemon game and I don't care much for Contra or Gradius. Love the Classicvanias and RKA, though. Metal Gear 2 and Ghost Babel are up there for me as far as Konami games go, though. I miss classic arcade-y Metal Gear.
>>3209791
The forst four released in the arcades, and Salamander/Life Force, and the MSX Salamander /Nemesis titles. The GB Nemesis games are also good.
>>3209767
>in 10 years the now-underages will rank the 5 MGS games as a top franchise each
There's at least SOME hope for the future, right senpai?
>>3209791
Only V is good because you can turn off checkpoints which lets me credit feed through it. I can't play through the others so I always get mad and quit.
>Goemon 2-4 will never get an English patch
>>3210512
Not him, but he's right. DDR and MGS are MORE POPULAR GAMES than Rocket Knight.
Just to be clear, I also played a lot of Rocket Knight back when it was new, but that doesn't mean that it's one of the "big" Konami series.
>>3215701
MGS only became huge at the very end of the 90s, MGS is almost a non-retro series since all the other games in the franchise got released after 1999. The MSX games aren't popular and are only remembered because MGS series was a success, otherwise they'd be "hidden gems" confined on the MSX.
DDR (as well as Pump it up) were big in the arcades in the late 90s (but more like early 00s, actually).
Both franchises are big, but I think Rocket Knight is more representative of /vr/ Konami all in all. Everyone remembers Sparkster, whether you actually played the games, or saw it on magazines back then.
>>3209767
In 10 years no one will remember metal gear anymore.
>>Gradius
this will always be the poster child of oldschool Konami to me
As much as I like Rocket Knight I've enjoyed Castlevania for 20 years.
>>3216082
Sure champ, sure.
>>3216082
People will remember it as being one of the worst stealth franchises out there, with a laughably awful story and unoriginal plagiarised music.
>>3209295
Australia-kun?
>>3209168
>No Metal Gear
>No Silent Hill
>No DDR
>No Yugioh
>No Turtles games
Ayyylmao
>>3216601
Yeah no, in 10 years there probably won't be another metal gear.
>>3216620
shit taste
>>3216629
I can only imagine the garbage you eat up.
>>3216628
>Konami literally working on MGS 6 right now
Regardless of what Konami does with the series currently, it will continue to be a legacy franchise and well remembered. It has left too big of an impression just to be summarily forgotten in a mere decade. Hell, people still talk about MGS 2 and that was 15 years ago.
>>3218729
Are you completely unaware that Konami has left the console video game development and publishing business (except for PES)?
>literally working on MGS 6 right now
Unless it's mobile or a pachinko machine this is not happening.
>>3218729
>Konami literally working on MGS 6 right now
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>3216620
/vr/-era MG and Silent Hill didn't have enough reputation to qualify
Most Turtles games were shovelware
>>3219621
MG got two versions of MG, two versions of MG2, and two versions of MGS, and more if we include Snatcher as part of the Metal Gear canon.
That's six+ games, enough to qualify as a Konami Iconic Retro Franchise.
>>3220776
>MG got two versions of MG, two versions of MG2, and two versions of MGS, and more if we include Snatcher as part of the Metal Gear canon.
And Policenauts if you're gonna count Kojima's ADV games, since Meryl is in it.
