What is the best retro class-based RPG?
Fft
>>3195571
Depends on what you want from the game.
Most people are fine with class systems where the class is basically a label for the abilities you're going to learn and little else, others prefer more rigid rules such as penalties on equipment/abilities/stats, others prefer a design based purely on stats and/or embedded, non modifiable abilities.
I personally prefer the third model, so games like Romancing SaGa 2, Dark Law or Der Langrisser are probably some of the best in terms of RPG with classes for my taste.
I don't like the first model because at the end of the day classes mean nothing when you can modify stat growth and toolsets as you see fit like in FFT, it ends up being a game of super hybrids and overpowered specialists with no weaknesses or downsides at all in both cases, the only advantage is almost purely cosmetic since you can choose the sprite you like the best for our generics, which isn't bad for me since I'm more of an aesthetic>efficiency guy.
The second model is fine but it's usually ridden with stupid rules such as equipment restrictions that make little sense for me, I get that mages couldn't have the physique du role for a full plate, but I don't see why they can't equip a short sword or a crossbow and are forced to use staves and if you're lucky, daggers.
Though one class based game that I really appreciated in it's simplicity and rigid ruleset was Vantage Master, it has its flaws and ends up being more of a game of chess than a RPG, but it's pretty addictive once you get into it, even though it wasn't really my thing in regards to some class restrictions rules.
>>3195571
Final Fantasy 3 or 5.
When it comes to FFs, the ones with the job system are consistently awesome (Except X-2, that one is average)
One day Ill find a game that can match FFT job system, I know it was unbalanced as fuck but it was still fun. I dont even care if its not retro
>>3195794
>FFT
>not retro
>>3195960
He means has doesn't care if the game he finds isn't retro.
FFT and FF5
Tactics Ogre and Dragon Quest 3 are alright
FFT for sure, especially when coupled with the 1.3 mod because it makes everything matter and adds so much more to the depth of the game. You actually have to think about what you're doing and can't roflstomp everyone, makes the game alive once more after beating the vanilla mode so many times.
>>3195571
Shining Force has not been mentioned. might not be exactly what your looking for. But fuck if it's not fun AF
