I never played a Breath of Fire game before, where should I start?
3 then 4
You can play BoF 1 and 2 if you really like the others, but they feel more dated and are not that good storywise
>>3152038
3 looks really good, but it's incredibly slow and boring. They really could have cut the entirety of the pre-time skip.
>>3152030
1 or 4. 1 if you want to play them all. They get progressively better, so that will give you the most fun with the least disappointment.
4 if you just want to see what Breath of Fire is like. It's the best game in the series.
You will also get the recommendation that 3 is by far the best in the series by someone who played that one first. 3 is good, but I disagree with it being anywhere near as good as 4. He's very fond of it though so you might be too.
I played all the Breath of Fire games in the order they were released. My opinion? Breath of Fire 3 is the best. (It's my all-time favorite game.)
The gameplay is addictive and deep. Where do I even begin. Let's see... you have a "masters system." This allows you apprentice each character under a different master. Doing so alters their stats as you level-up, and causes them to learn special attacks depending on which master you assign them to. (There's 15 masters in the game.)
The Dragon Gene system allows you to collect dragon genes, then splice them together and transform into different dragon types.
A fishing mini-game can literally be played for hours, and some anons have been known to play the game for the fishing alone.
A massive desert must be crossed by aligning the stars above you. The whole game is insanely deep, looks great, sounds great, and plays great.
In short, Breath of Fire 3 has teeth!
All the retro Breath of Fire games are good, but I rank them like this:
(1.) Breath of Fire III
(2.) Breath of Fire IV
(3.) Breath of Fire II
(4.) Breath of Fire
The first two games are much harder, so if you do play them in order, and I and II are too much for you, don't let that discourage you from trying III and IV, because they're much easier.
(I have arrived in this thread, of course. Now cue the Katt poster, and we're all set.)
>>3152049
>I played Breath of Fire 3 first
>"He's very fond of it"
>"He"
>>3152076
To add to this guys post.
They toned down so of the grind in the GBA re-release of Breath of Fire 2: you get more exp from battles and random battles don't happen as often as the SNES game (I think). Might be worth playing that instead for 2. I didn't play BOF 1 so who knows about that one.
>>3152076
Myrmidon's skin is so good looking. Too bad the ending was kinda shallow.
>>3152131
Okay, maybe she. Doesn't matter. "He" is less clumsy than always typing He/she or similar and most people here are male.
>>3152137
>They toned down so of the grind in the GBA re-release of Breath of Fire 2: you get more exp from battles and random battles don't happen as often as the SNES game (I think). Might be worth playing that instead for 2. I didn't play BOF 1 so who knows about that one.
I really like how they toned down the grind for for the remakes. Only complaint is the remakes featured graphics that hurt my eyes.
>>3152139
>Myrmidon's skin is so good looking.
Yes! Definitely one of my favorite dragon forms. Ryu looks really great in that style.
>>3152030
I agree with other anons, start with 3. There's something about it, I don't know, just love the world and graphics, it really sets the scene. For the most part they're not really related outside a mild reference so any order is really fine, but I never could get into the SNES ones personally. BoF3 is one of my top games of all time though, I just have great memories of staying up till 4 am that summer playing it.
4 is the best retro one
the best overall one though isn't retro
I wanted to say you should start with BoF2. But then I remembered that it's not that good of a game and I only like it because Nina(her design) is such a qt.
>>3152461
Nina's design in Breath of Fire 2 is freakin' awesome.
>tfw BoF3 Nina starts off as fat and grows up to be a slender top qt
One of the best ugly duckling transformations in vidya.
>>3152473
Yeah I love the pic you posted, probably the best piece of fanart of her. But she also has a nice tough attitude that's different from some of her other incarnations.
>>3152481
she wasn't fat she just had a puffy dress
>>3152481
>Nina starts off as fat and grows up to be a slender top qt
Are you sure Nina was chubby? Maybe her dress was just fluffy. Although her cheeks are kinda pudgy...
Hachio must feed her really well.
>>3152537
>>3152481
official art has her very much in the not fat category
>>3152030
Start with 2. While 1 is not a bad game, it's tedious in comparison to the other games. 2 is one of the best RPG's of the era. And it was a good era. You will get intro'd to the style of BOF. The dragons, wyindians, side shit to break the monotomy of standard RPG fare. Plus 2 has the best hunting. Then hit up 3 and 4. Both great games.
Not retro butBoFV is the best game in the seriesI know I'm a minority
>>3152564you're muh nig is what you are
Did anyone notice Chun-li and Sakura in Breath of Fire 3?
>>3152564not THE best BOF, but certainly one of the best
>>3152605
I never saw either but was about to say that could be any sailor girl but you're probably right about it being Sakura. The style is too out of place for it to be anyone else in the game. That's cool. Chun-Li got a cameo in either BoF1 or 2 also, I can't remember which.
Ryu's head looks like a DQ slime btw.
>>3152623
>Ryu's head looks like a DQ slime
It actually does! Now I'm gonna think of that every time I play.
>>3152623
>Ryu's head looks like a DQ slime btw.
Thanks, now my childhood and life is ruined.
>>3152652
>Thanks, now my childhood and life is ruined.
The resemblance between Ryu's hair and a Dragon Quest Slime is quite strong. I wonder if it was an inside joke at Capcom, or just a coincidence.
>>3152652
his adult hair looks like a fish
What's this? A Breath of Fire thread? Time to rev up them feels
>>3152678
>his adult hair looks like a fish
I... don't really see this.
>>3152681
you want feels?
Ill give you feels.
>>3152681
Do we really have to?
>>3152706
Well what would you like to do instead?
The food in BoF3 always looked so good. I remember it making me really hungry when I played. Down the road from me was a fish house that had snapper and sourdough bread with clam chowder. I'd go get some a lot when I played and it hit the spot, and made me want to go fishing in the game.
>>3152710
>Laying in that position
>Her question
The gal just doesn't get it.
No actually, I find the whole relationship between Ryu and Nina to be cute at best. I like Ryu being with Nina more than Ryu together with Deis. Even though Deis is more fitting, Nina had the childhood connection with Ryu. They shared a lot of memories; my favorite being them exploring the streets of Wyndia, together. Ryu was weaker than his brotherly senpais, Rei and Teepo when he first started out. But protecting Nina brought out a stronger and more passionate side to him. Which makes me believe Nina played the biggest role in advancing his character.
I like to picture them being together in the end.
>>3152719
>The food in BoF3 always looked so good. I remember it making me really hungry when I played. Down the road from me was a fish house that had snapper and sourdough bread with clam chowder. I'd go get some a lot when I played and it hit the spot, and made me want to go fishing in the game.
Everything in Breath of Fire 3 looks great, indeed. But the food especially, I give you that.
The game has such a charming and delightful pixel-set. It's so pretty!
Played only IV...
Only thing good and interesting was Fou Lu and be able to play as the BBEG sometimes....
But generally the game was "meh"...
None of the characters really stand out, locations are boring, wrost pacing on story ever, seriously.... and the game was TOO easy... I only saw animations for knocked out characters on a cutscene... The only time I had some difficult was on the final fight and yet I never saw the game over screen.
The game allows you to use replace your party if you end in a wipe but I have only discovered that on the final fight because everything was so easy that I never need to replace fainted members.
2 and 5 are the best ones as from a modern person's perspective. 4 is good. Everything else is sub-par and can't hold a candle to games released in the same year.
>>3153128
To this day I don't understand why capcom removed quicksave from the pal version of DQ.
Did they think euros need to be more hardcore?
Kat is disgusting there are superior characters like BoF2 Nina or BoF5 Lyn. Go away Katfags
>>3153185
>Go away Katfags
Don't feed the trolls. Make them starve.
>>3152076
Fuckin' God, how could I? Never being to a BoF thread, every time I read the series name on some other thread, I have confused it with Fire Emblem (which never interested me). All this mechanic you're going about caught my eye instantly, I still can't believe how stupid I was, thanks tripfag.
https://desustorage.org/vr/thread/3152030
Katt pictures I have posted. Injoy.
For free.
>>3153280
You can also get vaccines to protect you against certain elements that are good until your next inn rest. It's a pretty good idea that they should use in more games.
>>3153294
Interesting. I'm still shocked with my confusion up there, if I'm not mistaken, most of Fire Emblem mechanics are quite bland, not much different from the basics like Final Fantasy and such, I'm getting a good vibe from this series.
>>3152704
SON OF A BITCH
>>3153292
Thanks man.
>>3153305
Well like any RPG it'll take a while until enough opens up that you can really take advantage of all the mechanics, so it might look at first like FF but it's pretty once you start hooking up with masters and stuff. My first playthrough was 75 hours so you get a lot of meat in BoF3.
>>3152716
>Sequel never with him as bad guy
>Eternal sadness
This thread makes me really want to play these games again but I just got too much going on in my life now to dedicate time to an RPG let alone multiple ones. Someone play them on my behalf and have a good time.
>Ryu never gets any of that sweet sweet Nina pussy in any game
>>3152484
>tough
It's like you have never played the game. She is only skin-deep tough, inside she's a shattered glass. If not for the Party, she would commit suicide. "I always wished to disappear.." "You are the most important figure in my life, Hero." She's very melancholic outside of her masquerade.
Katt, on the other hand, is of another bitter fate, but literally nobody mentions it. She's most likely is an orphan and most of her childhood spends in survival in the wildest wild. Some of that time she's a coliseum gladiator. She's disgustingly resilient and competitive, and for that she should be mentioned. I would pick that anytime over emo shit. No one ever gives her any credit for finding herself in life. By herself. Hell, the game isn't even about her past which she has fought by herself, but about her future. "Life is more than just fighting, fill your heart with other things.." Whereas Nina is only starting, Katt is just expanding herself.
>tfw people only use Nina to trigger me
Abandonware.
>>3153375
Nina from BoF1 during her appearance in BoF2 says the wing clan is losing their powers thanks to her, because she has mixed her blood with other race, and since then this became acceptable.
>>3153434
Thanks, captain.
>>3153434
>since then this became acceptable
Said no one ever. Even had it been so, it wouldn't have proved anything in future games. Retardвыcкoчкa-posting.
>>3153434
*upvotes*
>>3153451
So they lose their ability of turning into birds and eventually even their wings for no reason?
>>3153476
And that doesn't make it the standard everyone has to follow. It's not even the norm.
>>3152564
I certainly find it fun. But yeah, I can see whyBoFV[can be just as disliked as well. Really, it's more of a game you'd have to rent before deciding whether to buy or not, but sadly, that's not really an option.Unless you're an emulator fag.
>>3152706
>>3152716
It's probably bullshit to sate/pander to the fans, but from what I heard, they were originally going to have Ursula's father kill Yuna off. Had they known that fans hated Yuna so much, they would've went through with that.
Again, probably bullshit.
>>3153745
>they were originally going to have Ursula's father kill Yuna off.
No they weren't. Ive said it before but Yuuna's survival is too perfect.
It ties into Ryu and Fou's final confrontation and their nature as opposites.
Fou Lu driven mad by the events he witnessed aims to wipe humanity out because he deems them wicked even if it means taking the few good with him. Ryu's goal is to protect the innocent even if it means the wicked go unpunished. Yuuna being the single most wicked we've seen.
With Yuuna surviving it ads real weight to this clash of ideals. Yes people like Elina and Mami are good without question but compare that to the damage one Yuuna is capable of. Are "humans" worth protecting? Are we all as bad as Fou believes or is he just angry from loss?
The game ends with Ryu winning as the good ending but thanks to Yuuna surviving and planning on starting all over the question isn't so cut and dry.
If Yuuna and all the badguys died the ending confrontation would amount to generic anime idealism and sophistry. We need a consequence on the good side to balance out the bad side and keep it from being a black and white cliche. Maybe the game could have spelled it out better but I like that they didn't beat us over the head with it.
Plus if they really wanted him to die they would have killed him in the manga adaption when they had the chance too. (pretty good read, check it out)
plus there's the popular fan theory that Yuuna is the one who created Myria and is responsible for well pretty much every bad thing that happens in the series ever. Myria the false goddess, Yuuna's main goal was the creation of such a thing. He's also totally the kind of guy who could turn a bodyless goddess into a snake women too.
food for though
>>3152076
Are you me?? I always pick III over IV. One of the best games of my childhood. Better feel to it than IV. III is just a hundred times more memorable, better sprites/animation, music, gameplay.. I agree with everything you said.
>>3153806
Speaking of which, is it just me or is Yuna the only male Grassrunner who doesn't have a thick coat of fur?
>>3152605
Fuck, never noticed this in any playthroughs.
>>3152697
Not the anon who mentioned it, but now I can't unsee the fish on your picture.
BoF is really a charming series. I know it's not retro, but it pleases me to see so much love for Dragon Quarter.
>>3153813
I don't think the fox people in general do. But there where a few early NPCs.
>but it pleases me to see so much love for Dragon Quarter.
Hell yeah, nigga.
3>2>4>1. Never played Dragon Quarter, but heard mixed things.
3 was my first, so it's probably nostalgia, but I really liked it for the stuff some anons mentioned. Rei was awesome, the game was pretty long, and it was disturbing on some levels while also retaining a lot of the Breath of Fire charm. If that is not enough, one of the party members is an onion wearing pants that hulks out when he attacks. You really should not need more than that in your life.
Four is generally adored here on /vr/, but I never really got into it. I didn't care for much of the cast, aside from Cray and Fou Lou, Scias is the Amarant of this game that has no business being a party member since he brings virtually nothing to the story. As for the story itself, it is the high point. Political intrigue, violence, douchebaggery of the highest caliber and such. Good game, just not one I loved particularly.
2 was a ride for me from start to finish. I loved the party members, I was very interested in the story line (especially since I had no fucking idea what was going on from the begining all the way up to near the ending), the world was fun, the shaman mixing was fun. It's got a fat frog as a party member who uses a rapier which is also funny as shit.
1 shows it's age the most, but it is not without merit. One of the party members can also transform into stronger versions by mixing with other party members, the story was very typical jrpg fare, but for the year it was developed, I don't see that as a bad thing. Still, the worst of the bunch.
>>3152452
This.
I'd say play the first 4 in order. 1 and 2 are more linked together than the latter two are. Dragon Quarter is very different and is often referred to as the "black sheep" or "series killer" for being very different (and it is), but it's easily my favorite.
>>3153832
I am confused.
>>3153828
The bleak atmosphere, this engaging and well designed battle system where each character can show their strength, and that tension as the D-Counter rises.
I loved all of these. Yet it feels so different from the previous games that I understand some of the fans felt alienated.
>>3152038
This. And realize that the first half of 3 is basically an extended tutorial (albeit with a few great moments).
>>3154104
Define perfectly fine
>>3154756
Aww her poor legs! I'm sure she'll be fine though, she seems like a tough cookie! I mean it's not like we were hacking through her bloated intestines to get here. Look on the bright side!
>>3154775
Fun Fact: The Dragon Slayer sword is made from the screaming head of an improperly summoned god. It was dissected broken down reforged into a blade and is still alive and in constant agony.
One guess who made it
>>3154783
That game is so great.
Remember when Fou Lu stormed the imperial fortress slaughtered all the enemies and then strangled Yuuna
me neither ;_;
>>3154775
Don't forget to apply your CRT filter here.
>>3154817
Get bent. Though I did play that game mostly on the super shitty PSOne attachable screen. I should probably play it on a beautiful HD screen some day.
>>3154824
well its on PSN and most PSone classics Ive seen look pretty good
>>3154826
That's good, but if I do again I'll just emulate. Not going to buy it twice.
>>3152030
You should start by playing some of the good RPGs of the era instead.
>>3154878
you gonna need some bigger bait mate
I remember being completely unable to find a fully functioning copy of Breath of Fire IV when I was playing it as a kid.
>rent Blockbuster copy
>freezes near the end of the game
>lose my memory card
>buy a pre-owned copy, start again
>freezes earlier
>rent Blockbuster copy
>swap discs at the black screen
>works like a charm
>have to have two copies on hand at all times if I wanted to progress
>get to the final cutscenes
>beat Tyrant
>screen goes black, disc swapping doesn't work
>never finish the game
>>3152605
Chun-Li is also on BoF1.
>>3154783
Funnier fact: after the mercy kill is delivered, Cray remains silient for the rest of the game.
>>3156193
>Cray remains silient for the rest of the game.
I didn't even give that much thought. I mean that's literally the end game there more or less but still.
>>3156193
Is that so?
>>3153828
The Nina in this one seems so frail and helpless at first, you only want to protect her. Never before have I felt the urge to take care of a fictional character so much.
I love this artwork as the gentle, motherly expression on Lin's face reminds me so much of these feelings.
I've played 3 and 4. Liked them a lot. Now I have a chance to get Dragon Quarter for the price of 5 euros. Yes or no? Is it good? What should I expect?
>>3156259
I want to say yes but then you said Euro.
The game IS fantastic, but the Pal version isn't what Id call the definitive release. It removed the quick save function so you can only save at actual save points. Im not sure if there's any other issues but it's something I think you should be made aware of going in.
That all said it's a game I can't recommend enough
>>3156259
5 euros is a real bargain. I was happy to get mine for 20.
It's so different from the other games in the series.
But if you're looking for a RPG that strays from the classic formula, you like turn-based battles with action points, and want to be immersed in a claustrophobic setting, this is your game.
>>3156259
It's absolutely NOT a good game.
But it has a couple of good things in it. 5 euros is a fair price and despite what I just said it's still worth playing once.
The game's weakest point is its length and what ties into that. It uses a system that forces you to keep replaying to "unlock" cutscenes... that really have no reason to be hidden behind that system, since taking them out makes the entire experience very stale and doesn't really motivate a replay to find out more.
The game also motivates a sort of "cheat-grinding" in order to be able to fight speedbump bosses. It's not immediatly obvious that you can do that cheat-grinding, so it can also be frustrating in that way.
Just use a guide.
What I hated about BoF5 (yes 5, not this "dragon quarter" bullshit, it was called straight-up 5 in Japan) is it used a Resident Evil style typewriter ribbon save system so you had very limited saves. BUT there was thankfully an easy way to circumvent that and have unlimited saves. Look into how to do that, I forget now, but it's practically necessary.
>>3156981
At any point in the game you can "give up" and reload your save losing all the progress you made.
While keeping equipped items, items in the Locker systems, abilities and finally "Party XP" (extra experience points that you get in battle and can freely distribute among your characters).
Doing this replaces your current active inventory with a basic set of items. 5 basic healing items, 1 revive item... and 1 save token.
Which is why you should avoid saving willy-nilly with your last save token, instead using the quick-save option. Unless you're playing the EU version, since they took out the quick-save. But instead they gave you 9 tokens from the get go, which respawn entirely whenever you do the "Give up trick".
The most basic mechanic to learn in the game is to find a good loop of enemies, save right before fighting them, kill 'em all, give up and reload, kill 'em again. And so on until you accumulate a decent number of Party XP. Though Give Up doesn't keep your level, so once you spend all your Party XP you need to make sure you save to keep your level.
Welcome to BoF5.
Fou-lu did nothing wrong
>>3157740
Revenge is always wrong.
>>3157826
>attacking the middle east after 9/11 was wrong
Yeah okay Mohammed, whatever you say man
Go with order of release.
BoF is a fun but easy game.
BoF 2 is hard as nails but much more polished experience.
BoF 3 is a masterpiece, nuff said.
Bof 4 is quite good, but not as good as 3.
>>3157886
>BoF 2 is hard as nails
Find AP fruits, win game.
>>3152076
Can you please supplant Princess Sevenleaf as this board's resident girl?
>>3152030
Don't play 1. It will make you hate the series and the translation is so bad it breaks the game to the point you have to use a guide
>>3158209
It's colorful, fun and the translation ain't that bad.
can we get some bazooka fox grill up in this bitchit bugs me that all of her artwork has her holding a handgun. i always equip her with a cannon.
>>3159059Katt is better.
>>3159253
Well, yeah. Second only to 5's Nina, but only because she's weaponized moe.
>>3159059
A lot of the hand guns let you double tap so for bosses you really want one
>>3159253
But that's wrong.
>>3159642
>A lot of the hand guns let you double tap so for bosses you really want one
Oh yup, you're right. I had forgotten about that.
Does BOF4 let you switch weapons in the middle of combat?
>>3159253I agree but Ursula is the 2nd best waifu in the entire series.
Just started III, really enjoying it. I'm not much a jrpg guy but I like how simple and detailed everything is. Having ryu flail his sword to attack is pretty adorable.
>>3152030
I had this same interest and decided to play them in order. I played 1, and while it was enjoyable at the start and towards the end, I had to force me through a very tedious, slow, old school, big middle section. You have random battle repels available through all the game so it still more bearable than, say, FF1, but doesn't feel much richer than that one despite being a generation apart.
Then I tried BoF2, and couldnt bare it. It's prettier, but with shitter characters and settings. Most people defending it are furrys who fap to the catgirl anyway.
So I suggest go for 4 and 3. 1 and 2 will kill your interest in the series before you get to the best of it
>>3152030
I've only ever played 4 but I enjoyed that one immensely so I definitely recommend it.
>>3160227
BoF2 was worse because it was very derivative. Derp religion is evil. Then you climb down a toilet and in some fat queen's guts. It's so all over the place.
>>3160282
Well I didnt get that far, the slow start turned me off quickly, but it sure sounds like something you can remember fondly if you first played it when you were 13, but not like something I'd like to play nowdays
>>3160210
>Does BOF4 let you switch weapons in the middle of combat?
I believe it did>One shots the comic relief boss before he can even start his shit
And that's why Ursula is cooler than that everyone
>>3160216
Little Ryu and Nina must be one of the cutest duo in JRPG history.
>>3160282
Fedora tiping is not a crime, you bangladeshi scum!
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists#Bangladesh
Check your privileges!
>>3152038
Two has a better story than 3 honestly.
>>3162701
But it has no sense of adventure
>crossing the sea on that giant boat for the first time
>navigating the desert not knowing what, if anything, is on the other side
It was a great journey.
>>3162714
That's all 3 is though. it's mostly just one long journey with nothing interesting happening on the way. Meanwhile 2 fills in the story with lots of character arcs.
Question, just started III for the first time. I'm at the part where I sneak into the mansion of the mayor and ryu and teepo got slaughtered by roaches. They're level 7, should I grind or just buy as best equipment as I should? Also is the silver knife worth grinding in the fishing game for?
>>3162745
you can pump up their levels but don't buy expensive gear just yet.
>>3162745
Nina's wings in 3 are so weird.
Bumping with another question, I got out of the wyndia dungeon with Nina and should have the dragon gene flame but don't, anyone know why?
>>3164975
Fug, never mind I'm a dumbass.
>>3164834
Weren't wyndian's wings atrophied at BoFIII? They can't fly anymore.
>>3162745
Fishing is better with stronger rods, you will also find better rewards eventually, it's a great way of getting kick-ass items. Too bad the Master Rod gets that stupid requirement. You get it when you are basically done with fishing? Bullshit.
>>3165741
>Weren't wyndian's wings atrophied at BoFIII? They can't fly anymore.
Yeah, but I was more talking about the colors. Her wings in the other games are all one color, but in 3 they're a big pastel mishmash.
>>3166095
I thought she didn't have wings though, because like the other anon said they were useless and vanished. Did any other Wyndian people in the game have wings? I can't remember. I just thought the things on adult Nina's back were ribbons or bows.
>>3166806
The wings atrophied because Nina from BOF II mixed her blood with Ryu (half-dragon clan).
>>3166834
You need a bigger bait.
>>3166095
>Her wings in the other games are all one color, but in 3 they're a big pastel mishmash.
Birds do that a lot. I think they just didn't want to do what the other already did and where trying, maybe a bit to hard to stand out visually
>>3152030
If you know so little about the series that you don't even have an idea of what game is appealing to you, why don't you just start with the first one, you stupid bitch.
>>3166913
But that's exactly what happened. If you're really a Kattfag you'd know that considering Nina from the first game herself tells that to the current Nina in BoFII.
It's plausible that the black wings are even a result of the mixing with the dragon clan.
>>3166806
>>3166095
I thought they were decorations since no other Wyndians in III have wings. Unless it's a royal family thing, but I don't think even the royals had wings anymore.
>>3167510
>Nina 1
>Nina 2
Get your shit together.
>>3166913
I really want that.
I've come to this thread to say that BoFIII is arguably the best game in the series and certainly far better than IV.
I have an issue with BoF4 where my characters will just randomly start swaping and they continue to do this for 20 seconds before. anyone know what buttons to press to change characters outside of the menu so I stop pressing it?
>>3169304
L and R I think.
>>3169327
Just found out that it was caused do to the touch screen on the back of the vita being mapped to R2 and L2, I thought the vita versions of PS1 games just ignored the R2 and L2 buttons
>>3160216
This, I'm a huge sucker for even slightly detailed sprite animations
>>3169354
>I thought the vita versions of PS1 games just ignored the R2 and L2 buttons
Nope. I think you can even remap them if you want too.
>>3169367
BOF 3 and 4 have some of the best sprite work ever.
2's is decent as well, considering the limitations of the SNES.
>>3169354
Nope, you're lucky though. The PSP maps the analog stick to it.
>>3170426
Wait what? You can map L2/R2 to the stick? Holy hell, this whole time I've put off buying more PS1 games off PSN because too many need those buttons. Learned that the hard way with Tekken.
>>3152049
4 has a piece of shit gameplay though. It's just way too easy and you're better off ignoring most skills, combos and in-battle effect items.
Deis > your waifus
>>3152162
I just use they. Seems illogical to assume gender on an anonymous image board.
>>3170698
I enjoyed finding the combos and weaknesses necessary for one round kos which exist for virtually every encounter possiblity.
>>3167510
A few old men with white beards had full white wings in windia castle. Only one or two sprites, but they do still exist
>>3170698
>4 has a piece of shit gameplay though
that's a funny way of saying the best turn based battle system ever
What are the pros and cons of each game(without any spoilers)?
>>3173574
1:
+Nothing
-No Katt
2:
+Katt
-Nothing
3:
+Nothing
-No Katt
4:
+Nothing
-No Katt
5:
+Nothing
-No Katt
>>3173835
Rei was better than Katt anyway. He had personal growth from carefree young guy to jaded as hell as an adult. Katt was just there for fap bait.
>>3174184
>after the timeskip: an edgy manchild with zero self-control who is all about revenge about things that never actually happened
>doesn't show any change further we go into the story
>better than a cleanly sexy resilient 15-years-old girl who is life and soul of the party
>>3174536
>who is life and soul of the party
you really believe that don't you. Before 3 there games barely had any real character interaction. She would occasionally make some joke about hitting things but for the rest of 90 percent of the game her and everyone else was as mute as Ryu unless you talked to them at the home base.
>>3174607
2 has more character interactions at "home base" than 3 and 4 combined, "logic speaker". CHARACTERS COULD HAVE AN EXTRA LINE IF THEY WERE TALKED TO IN THEIR ROOMS.
After Katt is taken from the party for Tiga, every party member complaints that things are getting much less bright than they used to be.
>>3174607
>Before 3 there were barely anything
Love this meme and retarded cucks spouting it. Don't forget that 3 is the game that came in the same year as FF7 and 2 years after Chrono Trigger while being mechanically and graphically a SNES game.
>>3174674
>2 has more character interactions at "home base" than 3 and 4 combined, "logic speaker".
Okay? And the characters in 3 and 4 had all their character moments and growth through the course of the actual narrative AND had just as much to say at camp.
>every party member complaints that things are getting much less bright than they used to be.
First rule of story telling is SHOW don't TELL. They can say whatever they want it doesn't make it true because there's no visible effect on the party during the actual story. Not that there really was one.
>>3174768
You are that retarded filthy 30+ "razz" or, may I say, "La-Game-Nikita" shitposter who has been baiting here for, like, forever, are you? There are people who like BoF2 and they think otherwise, your retarded promenade doesn't change anything or even say anything worthwhile at all, get lost.
>>3174697
>graphically a SNES game
You wish the SNES had 3D rotation like BoF3 did
>>3174827
>your retarded promenade doesn't change anything or even say anything worthwhile at all,
man if Irony were strawberries
>>3174697
You can preffer 2 and that's a fine opinion to hold but don't deny 3 and 4 look beautiful.
>>3152543
It always annoyed me how the official art / character portraits had nothing to do with their sprites.
Here's the original artwork, by the way.
>>3175383
That's prototype art, this is an official piece with the main character's designs.
>>3175383
>It always annoyed me how the official art / character portraits had nothing to do with their sprites.
Eh it's closer than Final Fantasy
>>3175383
That girl in the middle's kinda cute
>>3175383
This reminds me of Chrono Cross. Same artist?
>>3175503
>girl
Anon...
>>3176253*They're. Seriously , why can't I type today?
>>3176253
Tatsuya Yoshikawa, their work is gorgeous.
>>3176503
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?utf8=%E2%9C%93&tags=yoshikawa_tatsuya+&ms=1
>>3177465
A lot of pics are missing.
Why are these Breath of Fire threads so comfy?
>>3180975
BoF is a pretty darn comfy game
>>3180975
The BoF series isn't popular compared to FF or Dragon Quest, so it doesn't elicit reactions from people who hate popular things. It's just series fans chatting with other series fans.Then someone brings up BOF5 and everything goes to hell
>>3181012>Then someone brings up BOF5 and everything goes to hell
Well maybe if people would learn to appreciate an amazing game instead of whining about petty crap
>>3152030
Start with the first and go sequentially, fucking d'oh.
/thread?
>>3152030
Everyone in this thread is retarded. 1 is the only one worth playing.
Just posting this project I found. Restoring the original palette to BoF1 (GBA), removing the damage cap, rebalancing the game, etc.
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,21742.0.html
I don't know how much he's planning on retranslating (so far it looks like he's renamed Bleu to Deis) but I hope he touches the item names, among other things.
>>3182586
... but the first one is the best! I'm sorry you have shit taste. I loved how you had to remember areas you couldn't access and backtrack when you gained new characters/abilities. No other game I've played has done that as well to this day. It seemed like the second one tried to appeal to a much younger audience, and for some reason, the third one, while nicer graphically, feels even more dated than the first two. I rented the fourth one in its day, maybe 15 years ago (?) - I remember it being decent.
>>3182980
The first game had a feel of it's own. Loved the music and environments, the (furry? lol) characters, everything. Super underrated game. Way better than part 2.
The Infinity gene was the power of absolute kick-ass in BoF III, but what did it mean in BoF II?
>>3182182
Good thing you included yourself.
>>3182182
>>3182980
They're all good games that deserve a playthrough, don't be an asshat. The first one has a very nice and dare I say it,comfyvibe but I can understand someone not liking it. I agree with you on the backtracking. I like all the games but BoF1 is definitely the most fun for me to replay.
>the second one tried to appeal to a much younger audience
Huh? It's much darker in its theme, however "edgy" people would say it is now, and even the gameplay is more complicated. It definitely upped the "cool" factor but I don't equate that with targeting a younger audience. I hope you aren't thinking that backtracking is some hardcore old school mechanic and BoF2 is more causal because it doesn't require as much. It's certainly more tedious when you consider the encounter rate, as well.
>the third one, while nicer graphically, feels even more dated than the first two.
How so?
>>3152030
Start by BOF 2 from SNES, its the best version for me
So I just finished the arena and have to ask, how the fuck are you suppose to use peco? I see what use everyone else has but what the hell are you suppose to do with peco?
>>3184868
Apprentice him under Fahl, get him a few levels, put in in the front in Attack formation, and then laugh as his insane durability, regen, and 100% counter rate wreck every random you ever fight. The only thing that's better is having a quick Ryu in the same spot kill random encounters before they can move with Blitz.
>>3183186
The power to erase the effects of Deathevan's magic.
>>3184868
Ladon's master quests. Since he starts at Lv1, it's easier to do them as they involve gaining levels. Otherwise, put him under a master with high attack growth and you'll have a sturdy ass-kicker.
>>3185031
He's meant to be a tank more than anything. His physical combat skill is lackluster but he's useful for stealing and ailments.
"Peco is good" is one of my favorite memes.
>>3152681
I cannot self-terminate. You must lower me into the steel.
>>3185348
He's an onion wearing shoes. You don't really need him to do anything but have that for him to be awesome. The fact he's fucking unkillable is icing on the Ygdrassil cake.
>>3184751
That's because you're an anime loving gaylord. Besides, that game is racist. A frenchie frog - that would never fly today.
>>3181670
>>3181846
I was just asking, I'm better at the game then you freaks anyway.
>>3183342
>How so?
Between the (nice) smooth jazz soundtrack and how slow-paced the game is, I can't stay focused on it for more than 15 minutes or pic related.
>>3185348
>>3185401
Peco is a blank slate with very balanced stat growth. He is exactly what you choose to make him, and therefore has the most potential in the game.
Also, he has the highest innate reprisal rate, which is a double edged sword. While it makes him a beast with the counter-attacks, it also leads to unpredictable outcomes when you may be attempting to steal items or abilities. I personally find it annoying as shit and therefore do not use him. At all.
But he is a cute, little fucker.
Why is the first game so grind heavy? I just got to the desert palace and I'm realizing pretty much every 12 steps I take, I'm fighting at least 3-4 enemies.
>>3185742
Define "today". Jeanne D'arc was filled with racial frog slurs. Even as an American I thought it was coming on a little too strong.
>>3190903
just buy the anti-encounter item I forget its name, I never had to grind in BOF1 though maybe it's because I got lost a couple of times and fight against most monsters I find
>>3152704
>>3152716
I would say fuck Yuna, but eww.In the manga he's kinda hot, but that just makes his villainy that much worse.
>>3159059
I usually have her with both at some point. Culverin + Shadowwalk = dead armies of enemies. The Repeater's her best +1 hit weapon, and Scias using Shining Blade with either the Slicer or the Render, Ursula using Shadowwalk with the repeater, and a buffed Ryu using Shadowwalk with either the Slicer or the Royal Sword while in Knight form can and will kill just about anything that isn't a boss, the Rider, or the Trunked/Treans (and even then, you might kill the Trunked anyway).
>>3160782
Yeah, you could swap weapons. Also armor and accessories, I think.
>>3176503
Guys like him and Yoshitaka Amano are pretty much gods of character design. And oh my fucking fuck, the dragons in IV. My favorites are a tie between Ch'o Ryong and Ni Ryong.
I've been playing BoF1 recently for the first time, it's pretty good. Just fought some monster in the rock "robot".
>>3192695
The Gremlin, if I remember correctly? (It's been a while since I played 1).
>>3152076
>My opinion? Breath of Fire 3 is the best. (It's my all-time favorite game.)
Patrician tastes there, bro.
>>3185348
>>3189165
Peco is great but his stat growth is hardly balanced. Without a Master he has incredibly low Agility and Intelligence, okay Defense and pretty good Power. However, the onion's main draw is his HP. And since you get him at level 1 and are never required to use him, you can level him under any master you want whenever you want.
Patricians choose Fahl though. Peco has an innate regeneration that is based off of his HP. Under Fahl you can get Peco to 999HP well before capping his level and have a regeneration, defense and attack high enough to rofltank any encounter in the game solo.
So I bought BoF III yesterday and was wondering should I just rush form plot point to plot point or grind a bit between?
Also I'm at the Plant after tower of robots and still don't have a master.
>>3193394
Yes, now I gotta go and save some dude from a fairy curse and help a girl that is locked.
>>3194469
>and still don't have a master.
Why? You need to gain levels with masters to learn their skills, you learn great stuff with them.
Ryu can and will steamroll almost every boss all by himself, yeah, but making other characters useful is nice too.
>Award for Best Dragons goes toI know these aren't the actual forms of the dragons, but it's the only thing I could find with the lot of them in one picture.
>>3194392
Does this include the Archmage and the Berserker?
>>3158043
>supPLANT
Heh.
Pick best Ryu
>>3199415
and best NinaIV and II respectively, for me.
>>3199415
3 easily, then 4, 2 = 1, 5
3, 4, 2, 1, 5 also
>>3199609
IV Ryu gets even better if you consider how he is in the manga. I legit cried at the scene whenthe Kaiser first shows up.
Man, fuck Rasso. Ryu even calls him a faggot (or at least he does in essence, translating it to English would have been a problem because English doesn't quite have the context needed, and so they basically translated it to 'girly man').
Been playing IV a bit recently, and I forgot just how much bullshit you have to go through to get all of your dragons evolved. I did most of the sandflier stuff, but I just focus on getting points through tricks on the jumps instead of getting through it really fast, which can net me a guaranteed 4000 points for each course, but even then, that's only enough to evolve two dragons.
Anyone else have a better way to get the remaining game points that don't involve chasing pigsheep?
1: Don't remember anything
2: RANDOM ENCOUNTERS
3: ADVENTURE
4: FEELS
>tfw REference
So this thread is pretty big, so should you go in order or just do like III>IV>I>II?
>>3204628
>So this thread is pretty big, so should you go in order or just do like III>IV>I>II?
For me, and most fans, Breath of Fire 3 is the crowning jewel of the series. So if you only play one game, go with Breath of Fire 3.
Breath of Fire 4 is also very good. And so is Breath of Fire 2 if you can handle the old-school difficulty.
>>3204563
>REference
How about the fact "Ryu" was renamed "Ken" by the person playing?
>>3204541
Right, especially on IV there. Oh my God, some of the shit that befalls pretty much everyone is crazy.A village of children who are tortured to death,a princess forced into immortality for infinite ammo on a black magic nuke,a god being nailed in the head with one of said nukes powered by his girlfriend's soul, and worst of all,Yuna doesn't die.
>>3204628
I'd do IV>I>II>III, if you wanna do 'em in what's likely their chronological order. You can play them in pretty much whatever order you want though, since the storylines are pretty loosely related, although I think that I and II are a little closer than the others.
I started with 2, then randomly went to 4, probably because it actually had a PC version. Played 1 a bit back in the day but it didn't seem to be doing anything interesting. Should get around to playing 3 one of these days. I have an unopened copy of DQ sitting around somewhere.
Series needed more catgirls tbqh.
>>3205030
Mhmm. Sure. More catgirls.
Stop replying to this thread at all, at this point it is namefag troll fiesta, leave them rotting alone.
>>3204689
What's your thought process for believing 4 comes before 1, chronologically?
>>3205132
Spoilers ahead, for those who haven't played the series much.
There are a few things involved, such as Ryu and Fou-lu having a blatant yin-yang dynamic between them. When the two of them become one again, they're still well aware that they were once two separate beings, and in the manga, they don't even stay together (having been separate for too long keeps them from fusing back together permanently, as their own senses of individuality keep them from melding into one mind). While the two of them are also mortal by the end of it all, that doesn't necessarily mean they're sterile. Interracial breeding is a thing (Cray's mother is human, while his father was Woren), and so the two of them would have likely sired the Light and Dark Dragon clans that become prevalent in later games. if we go with Ryu and Fou-lu staying together, he'd still have both halves of him available to spread.
Next is the matter of Myria. Yuna survived the whole ordeal and stated quite plainly that he aims to do it all over again. At some point, he probably came up with another plan, and to carry it out he needed the power of someone who either is or was at some point Endless, and he chose to contact Deis for this, seeing as her desire for a body would be excellent leverage. Eventually he does craft her a body, making her into the lamia girl we see in the other games. After getting her a body and taking what he needed from her to continue, he uses Elina's corpse (she may be dead, but the flesh is still there for him to work with) and, with the knowledge he's gained from working with Elina and Deis before, he makes his magnum opus, Myria. That the two of them are 'goddesses' and the creations of Yuna would explain why Deis refers to Myria as her sister in III.
Continued >
>>3205205
While she may not be as powerful as the dragons, Myria is still nearly unequaled at this point. She kills Yuna in outrage, and then with him out of the way, she takes the world into her own hands and shapes it as she desires, separating the water and earth from the Sea of Mud into the land and oceans that are in the other games. The power she waves around as she does so ends up knocking mortals from the steps of the technology ladder they were on at the time to the medieval level they're at come the first game.
I suppose it all sounds like shoddy fanfiction at this point, but if I'm remembering right, the devs at Capcom have said that the first four games take place on the same timeline, they just didn't specify what order, so this is mostly just me trying to come up with a way to put them all together.
BoF 1 and 2 are both great.
3 was painful to play because of how long battles took.
4 was alright I guess.
started BoF1 recently on the SNES. Repetitive as fuck, and railroading hard (I just got to Nina, not very far). Hearing about the gross bits coming up in BoF3 I'm not sure I want to continue playing it
>>3205509
What gross bits? BoF3 is GOAT.
>>3205568
Katt's game is better.
>>3205580
>if these are BoF3
That's from Breath of Fire 4.
>>3206515
It's kinda funny how many people think that III is the best in pretty much every way.
At the very least, IV is the best at kicking your heart right in the balls, and some people are into that kind of thing.I know I am.
>>3205509
Your best bet is emulating it so you can press the turbo button for the grindy bits.
>>3152030
This bo
>>3207474
>At the very least, IV is the best at kicking your heart right in the balls, and some people are into that kind of thing.
*jingle*
>>3210661
cool a's bro
also cool memepost
>>3152076
BoF3 has some seriously hype moments. People say the music isn't as good as in 4, but for some reason more of it stuck with me. My first Zombie Dragon fight was so desperate, Garr died, had to solo with Ryu (equipped the new sword from the mine, whose element ZD resists. Wind? And I had a fkn fire sword). I hadn't heard the adult transformation scream before that, and so here I was transforming, getting shitkicked, heal, restore to, transform, get rekt, human Ryu rekt... and then eventually I won
Transforming to refill your health is the most hype thing ever. BoF4 transformations just aren't as ballsy.
>>3210692Fou-lu... had a hard life
That still hurts
>>3170407
That fucking Scias standing animation
>>3210692
>>3210945
It's more like knives than bells at this point.
>>3211627
>>3210945
>TFW no peaceful mountain life
>>3152704
I had completely forgotten that we had initially set out to find her by the time I actually reached her.
>>3207474
2 is the single best game in the series closely followed by 5. Katt's and Nina's amounts of fanart can't say wrong. There isn't no argument to be had, it is just pixiv.
