So, what NES JRPGs are worth playing?
No DQ.
No FF.
I thought Dark Lord was pretty fuckin neato.
Sweet Home
>>3110538
Fuzzical Fighter wasn't exceptionally great, but it took a bold step by combining SHMUPS with JRPGs, even if it was limited to talking to the mayor of each town and buying upgrades in shops.
>>3110538
Dunno if Fire Emblem clones count, but Just Breed was fucking great.
>>3110542
This.
>>3110538
im a hipster: the post
>>3110658
DQ and FF are obvious choices. I wasn't saying they were bad at all.
Radia Senki
First RPG I've ever played. I fucking loved Magic of Scheherazade.
Is Faria an RPG?
>>3110781
I'll allow it.
>>3110658
2007 called, they want their pejorative back.
Tales of Phantasia is fun there is also LiveALive that one i cannot recommend enough
>>3110836
I fucking loved LiveALive.
I remember that one sad fucking medieval story in particular.
Radia Senki, Crystalis, and The Magic of Scheherazade.
Also surprised Mother hasn't been mentioned yet.
>>3110839
>>3110836
>So, what NES JRPGs are worth playing?
>NES JRPGs
>NES
>>3110839
The Medieval story just was a non stop punch to the feels after a bit
>>3110856
I'll allow it as it was a really good game.
>>3110770
My nigga
Legacy of the wizard
>>3110538
ghost lion and mother
DQ and FF are the only JRPGs worth playing on nes.
>>3110538
mutha' fuckin Willow! The 2nd best Action RPG on the system, beaten only by Crystalis.
Oh yeah, play Crystalis too.
>>3111397
You're full of shit and you should probably kill yourself.
DREAM MASTER
chex quest
Duh, Zelda.
>tfw Labyrinth will never be fully translated
>>3111472
>>3110538
I heard Lagrange Point is pretty good, but I haven't played it myself, yet.
Sweet Home is pretty amusing too, although you probably played it already.
>>3110770
I'd have sex with Coronya.
no JRPG is worth playing.
>>3111710
Ok.
I bet you actually love to play jrpgs when nobody is looking. Come on Anon, you can tell us, we won't share your dark secret.
>>3111412
Not really my man. JRPGs are a big time investment and plating third rate ones is just a bad idea.
>>3111701
Lagrange Point IS pretty good. It's far from perfect though, and you won't be doing any real exploring, save for the world map(s).
The graphics and sound (seriously, they crammed an earlier version of the Genesis sound chip in the cart) are fucking incredible though, least for the NES, complete with a fully animated cutscene. I've heard it wasn't translated perfectly, but I don't know. It's worth it to play for the sheer spectacle, at least.
>>3110770
One of the best all around games for the NES. Never mind the American NES version wrecks the JP version. Fucking awesome game.
>>3110538
Chaos World. It's a bit rough around the edges, but the story is pretty damn impressive...Until it falls apart at the end. Religion, female villains sleeping around, it's pretty damn dark and serious, like I said, until the end.
>>3111754
NES JRPGs aren't much of a time investment compared to later ones. You'd know that if you'd played any of them.
>>3111776
>The graphics and sound (seriously, they crammed an earlier version of the Genesis sound chip in the cart) are fucking incredible though, least for the NES, complete with a fully animated cutscene.
Seconding this. If you're not gonna play Lagrange Point or Moryo Senki Madara, should still listen to the soundtrack since it's pretty good and impressive for a 8-bit system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb2fiA-IvNw&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kuybqM2D28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPm-Xwcntrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCoqaDD_b0A
>>3111754
Honestly I think action-based games like Radia Senki and Crystalis are better, less grindy, and less dated than games like FF1 and especially DQ1 (at least DQ1 is short). For me Mother 1 is right up there with the best FF/DQ games for NES.
Also you're right, there were a lot of third-rate RPGs made for NES and other consoles and most of them aren't worth playing, But using your logic I could say even the NES FF/DQ games aren't worth playing since there are dozens of better RPGs from the SNES/PS1/PS2 eras that are probably more worthy of your time.
>>3111789
Have this one too. It's one of the ones that stuck in my mind (and one of the few times you're not driving a vehicle).
https://youtu.be/ZAF6XvwdW_s
>>3111815
Crystalis is a hell of a lot of fun to play as is a lot of others. But there's a lot of shit to slog through on the NES. Still think FF 1-3 and DQ 1-4 (esp 4) are must plays though. I want to throw Xexyz and Guardian Legend in there too, even though they're more shoot-em-ups with RPG/exploration elements.
>>3111552
Tell me more.
>>3110538
Sansara Naga - you train a dragon by feeding him monster corpses
his growth changes based on the monsters you feed him and the way you act in battle (if you run away a lot you'll get an obedient but cowardly green dragon for example)
your character doesn't level up, you have to upgrade his weapons and armor
you make money by selling monster corpses
I also like the card based combat in DBZ III Rissen Jinzou (or something like that)
>>3110538
Megami Tensei II is quite good, but I don't think the original has been translated. Play the fan translation of the SNES remake if you want to check it out.
>>3111705
What do you mean?
>>3112651
Kitty blowjobs.
>>3111929
Team quit and as you can see, this was probably a good thing.
>>3113858
What little I played was a standard action rpg. Music was awesome too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R61yh5H1uc
>>3113867
forgot pic
>>3113858
Riveting dialogue
>>3111705
Agreed
>>3111776
>Chaos World
I'm fucking loving this game. Great translation, too, even with its issues. I wish all translations were this well-written.
>>3110538
>No DQ
Translation: "I don't enjoy the best series of video games ever created. I am a giant faggot."
>>3110538
Destiny of an Emperor, aka le hidden gem.
(1/2)
>>3114585
(2/2)
Zelda 2 and Faxanadu are pretty good side scrolling RPGs. Rambo also falls in the genre, but isn't as good really.
A personal favorite of mine is The Guardian Legend, which combines space shooter stages with a Zelda-like ARPG world exploration. Lots of weapons and other powerups to collect, and a futuristic setting.
>>3114690
Battle of Olympus, Castlevania II and Rygar are some other side-scrolly games with RPG elements that are worth playing/excellent IMO.
>>3114703
Ah yeah, never played Rygar, but I have sure as hell played Castlevania II (despite the horrible translation) and Battle of Olympus (on the GB, however). I can't help but feel there's probably a few more out there, but I wouldn't count a few of them as RPGs, depiste being borderline. For example Rad Gravity definitely has the progression of an RPG, but not much of the mechanics, and viceversa Kid Icarus has RPG mechanics but not the progression (which is kinda linear and stage-based). River City Ransom I would count as a beat'em up RPG, however.
>>3110770
Because of this post, I might go buy a copy. There's a play n trade by me with two copies and they're each $10~
Skipped lut on buying them in the past because I previously bought Dungeon Magic, which is a kinda poo poo first person dungeon crawler, and Life Force.
I also didn't do much research on the game to know if it was a fun game to play.
>>3114730
I saw a bunch of posts shilling this in this thread (to my surprise!). I rented it several times as a kid and I used to feel like I was the only person that enjoyed this game (my brothers never got into it and would cringe when I'd rent it - AGAIN). Count myself as another proponent for this amazing, unique title.
>>3111026
This game is so fun
>>3111723
My dark secret is that I'm actually the programmer foor super monkey diabouken
>>3114771
Fun, but nigh impossible without a guide.
>>3110538
All those NES JRPGs but nobody mentioned Dragon Slayer? Sure, it is not a NES original but it's still a fun Action RPG. I think it's even one of the first JRPGs in existence, before DQ and FF were released in japan.
>>3114839
I don't think the first Dragon Slayer was released for NES. We had the sequels like the Famicom version of Xanadu (Fa(micom)xanadu) and Legacy of the Wizard, but not the original.
>I think it's even one of the first JRPGs in existence, before DQ and FF were released in japan.
So was Hydlide, and that game actually had a NES port, but it's still fucking awful.
>>3114909
Hydlide 3 (same as Super Hydlide on Genesis) is actually half-decent. Very grindy and didn't age well, but it was pretty innovative for the time.
I kinda have a soft spot for the game, actually. It's not "good" but has a bit of charm. It's like the granddad of open world action rpgs, as clumsy as it is. And the genesis version has real catchy tunes.
>>3114759
I don't even know why I lied to myself. I was gonna buy the Magic of Scheherazade, but ended up getting Willow instead.
>>3114759
I'm also surprised at how much love it has. It's just a really fun Action/turnbased RPG hybrid with music that I think sounds great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B70iyYt5kKY&list=PLud0sOqGLoS5OUvmHIklQO5DduZXuRHfd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdPAfkRxIA&index=27&list=PLud0sOqGLoS5OUvmHIklQO5DduZXuRHfd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vly1_vWxSZo&list=PLud0sOqGLoS5OUvmHIklQO5DduZXuRHfd&index=25
>>3115184
Willow is inferior, m8.
I almost bought Faxanadu at a retro store today but ended up getting Wipeout 64, Eternal Champions, and Vectorman instead.
>>3115573
That's what I expected to hear. Oh well, those same two copies of Scheherazade are still there and don't seem to be going anywhere, anytime soon.
And Willow is pretty good.
>>3115649
I really like it myself.
Magic is the better game, but Willow is yet another good example of pre-Gen5 licenced games being great.
>>3110580
>just breed
so a Fire Emblem clone on the nes predicted Fire Emblem Fates and Awakening
>>3115649
Don't be too disappointed. Both are great.
>>3110770
fuck yes my nigga
![Chaos World (J) [o1][T+Eng.98f(B)_AGTP]_001.png](https://i.imgur.com/i3ZhUJD.png "Chaos World (J) [o1][T+Eng.98f(B)_AGTP]_001.png")
>>3111776
Well this was a punch in the gut.
>>3115557
The Japanese version's also a lot different. Lower quality music (think 85-86 NES sound), the art has a '50s Astro Boyish look to it, but the world maps and dungeons are a hell of a lot more complex. Not in necessarily in a good way though. They did a hell of a job bringing it over here.
>>3115590
>>3114690
Faxanadu is amazing, hell one of the most atmospheric NES games I've played. I just wish it was a bit longer, for what it was. Legacy of the Wizard is cool too, but feels so different that most would never know the two are related.
>>3116227
Should I play Xanadu first or is Faxanadu just a remake?
>>3116406
Faxanadu is a different game entirely.
>>3116423
Well that's a big yes.
>>3110756
Underrated post and I guess not many people gave it a try. It plays a bit like a proto Seiken Densetsu 3, faster paced than SoM.
>>3113858
That was an old project.
There's a fully playable, better translation that happens to have enough bugs to technically be in beta.
That team did go defunct, though.
>>3116227
>The Japanese version's also a lot different. Lower quality music (think 85-86 NES sound), the art has a '50s Astro Boyish look to it, but the world maps and dungeons are a hell of a lot more complex. Not in necessarily in a good way though. They did a hell of a job bringing it over here.
Is there any other example of a localization improving on its source?
>>3110538
Sweet Home
Mother / Earthbound Zero
Crystalis
Just Breed
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem 2
Radia Senki
Magic of Scheherazade
Lagrange Point
Megami Tensei
Megami Tensei II
probably some other shit
I can't be the only guy who loves gambling RPGs.
>>3117781
This fucking game, man.
Can you even beat it without savestating to oblivion?
>>3113870
If I see one more fucking fairy I swear to Christ.
>>3118226
Get into the games code and rig the RNG in your favour.
>>3118226
https://youtu.be/tu_XTsZSBf4?t=1m13s
>How do you want the common default enemies?
>Just fuck her shit up.
>>3118245
Of course! I knew it had to be something simple.
>>3112041
>Sansara Naga - you train a dragon by feeding him monster corpses
>his growth changes based on the monsters you feed him and the way you act in battle (if you run away a lot you'll get an obedient but cowardly green dragon for example)
>your character doesn't level up, you have to upgrade his weapons and armor
>you make money by selling monster corpses
That sounds fucking great.
>>3118264
You think we can name him anything we want? This will be glorious!
>>3118286
>>3118296
There's also a sequel.
>>3110580
Sim RPGs aren't jRPGs.
Also, Mother 1, duh.
>>3118264
I just wanna finish Chaos World so I can play this.
>>3117781
>this fucking game
The Adventure of Link
Doraemon: Giga Zombie no Gyakushuu
>>3120195
They are, as long as they're japanese, duh.
