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When did you stop caring about Pokemon?
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When did you stop caring about Pokemon?
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When I was asked to choose from the three starting pokemon and I didn't want any of them.

So probably gen 3.
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I still play, I'm waiting on Sun and Moon news revealed today.

Black and White is still the best games in the series to me. Very similar to Red and Blue. Forcing you to use new Pokemon.
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Right around OR/AS. I have AS, but I just couldn't bring myself to play it. I will at some poibt, but I just really find 3D Pokemon to look unappealing.

When I first heard about Pokemon as a kid I wasn't too interested, but as the launch of Red/Blue approached I got pretty hyped. I even wound up getting a JP copy of Gold before it was released in the US and have played at least one main series game per generation ever since.
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>>3109159
ORAS, was really boring. Unlike HG and SS, ORAS really added nothing new to Ruby other than new graphics and mega Pokemon.
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>>3109148
once the numbers were beyond 250.
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I never cared about Pokemon, I was a Digimon kid. Probably because I didn't have a Gameboy or N64, but did have a Playstation and all the Digimon World games.
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>yfw your favorite Pokemon finally got his Fire/Dragon typing
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I pretty much stopped paying attention to pokemon after I beat Sapphire. I'm currently playing Platinum for the first time and I'm really liking it, much more enjoyable than Sapphire. SoulSilver is next whenever I finish platinum.
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I beat Crystal back in 7th grade and never tried any of the other future generations. Since then I've probably beaten RBY and GSC five times each but I never could be bothered to learn any of the new Pokemon, EVs and IVs, etc.
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>>3109148
before I even finished the first game
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>>3109187
They changed how moves are categorized in Gen IV and up as well. It used to be based strictly on the types but now moves like "punches" or "kicks" are counted as physical even if they have elements attached.

It really doesn't affect much though.
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>>3109172
Is this a new Charizard? He evolves again? Also, wasn't he always fire/dragon?
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I only played the Red in 9th grade. I thought it was a cool idea but too easy to enjoy. Then a decade later I started playing SMT because because I like my pokeymans grimdark and edgy.
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>>3109206
>It really doesn't affect much though.
The entire metagame would beg to differ.
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>>3109208
No, he was Fire/Flying. And go look up mega evolution, It'll explain everything.
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>>3109217
>easy to enjoy
That's a bad thing now?
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>>3109221
((too easy) to enjoy)

not:

(too (easy to enjoy))
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I'm stuck buying new nintendo handhelds so that I can play the new games when they come out. However i'll only end up playing through the new ones once and never again.

I can replay the OGs up until HGSS/Platinum over and over again.
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>>3109220
Well they killed Alakazam with this. This evolution looks awful.
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>>3109148
After Gen 1 honestly.

I tried to get back into it when Soul Silver got released, and I beat it and mildly enjoyed it.

Pokemon is just totally bland. It basically hasn't changed from what I've seen since I was in like 3rd or 4th grade and I'm 26 now.

I just don't get the hype. I liked it a lot as a kid, but I knew even back then it was just tedious and spreadsheet style battles with rock paper scissors mechanics.
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>>3109218
Ehh I probably just suck. From my point of view all it did was shift buff moves around.
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>>3109241
You can thank Gen V bombing for it being bland. The one time the tried to do stuff differently no one liked it, so what do we get in Gen VI? Non-stop Gen I-III pandering.
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I will always love Pokemon for the huge impact it had on me in the 90s but I don't have the patience or expendable hours to dump over a hundred of them every time into each new game that comes out. I'm getting old and there's a moral dilemma and a sense of exhaustion that comes with that type of wastefulness.

I stopped after Heart Gold/Soul Silver. I own X/Y and tried out Black/White and the R/S remakes and they're great, if I was 12 again without a care in the world I'd go for them, but that's not how it is.

Red/Blue will always be the big daddy of all the games, the best one to me, the one that started it all and that I have the best memories of. Diamond/Pearl is next.
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Sapphire I think? I know it's not retro but that was the last one I can distinctly remember playing.
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>>3109148
Honestly, it was a little while after G/S came out. I bought Silver and enjoyed it, especially getting to go back to Kanto. But I was losing interest in it. It was a mixture of getting older and the new pokemon that made me ultimately quit. I was at the right place/right time for Red & Blue. I was in 3rd grade, subscribed to Nintendo Power, received the cheesy pokemon "promotional" videotape that had weird actors posing as Ash's family and friends while advertising the toys,anime,cards, and gameboy games. Shit was rad, and I was all in and eating it up. I just always personally felt that Pokemon lost it's significance to me when It went beyond the original 150/151 and also the feeling of aging out it.
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Gen 5 with most of its deviant art pokemon designs. Then I came back for gen 6. Will probably get sun/moon if i feel like it
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>>3109240
That looks based what are you smoking.

Aerodactyl's mega looks sweet, too
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>>3109251
Hmmm, many many fan surveys agree that B/W are the favorite ones.
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>>3109148
The moment Gen 5 was announced.
Played the first one the day it came out in europe.
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>>3109148
When Black / White came.
It was then that I first stopped and asked myself: "why am I still playing this?"
The only answer I came up with was "because the older games were interesting", so I haven't touched a pokemon game since.
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the only bit of pokemon i played was a couple hours of gen 3 and i couldn't tolerate the slow-paced battles. all that text and you can't skip through it! fuck that
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>>3109220
>look up mega evolution
>see this
My sides.
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>>3109278
You might want to play B/W again then. It's basically like Red and Blue. You need to use all new Pokemon for 90% of the game.
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>>3109270
In retrospect, yes. But no one was saying that when it actually mattered, when the games needed to sell.

Game Freak and/or Nintendo took one look at the criticism and sales figures and went "OK, we've learned our lesson. Buy X/Y! We'll give you a Kanto starter! And it can Mega Evolve! Charizrd gets TWO because you all love Charizard, right?!"

Honestly, the next Gen will probably be even worse because of Yo-Kai Watch having done so well in Japan. They'll want that audience and I think the games will suffer for it.
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During BW japanese launch, after chasing the little chimps before the first gym. Played XY after it, and it only put the nail in the coffin. I only play side games and rom hacks now.
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>>3109279
Which one? Ruby/Sapphire were pretty meh tier. FireRed/LeafGreen are way more interesting imo.
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Shouldn't this thread be on /vp/? Only two out seven Pokemon generations are retro.
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>>3109148
>implying I ever cared
sorry kid, never owned a game boy
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>>3109148
After Diamond and Perl.

Started with R/B, ofcourse I loved them, but did not care enough to get the second gen games.
Got Ruby and really loved that one. 999+ hours in one savefile. Only got Fire Red years after its release on a flea market.
Got myself Diamond and really enjoyed it. Also bought Ranger 1 and Mysterdy Dungeon. Enjoyed these too, but decided to put a stop here. Did not want to buy anymore Pokemon, even sold Ranger and PMD.

Around the release of B/W2 my friend wants to get back into Pokemon. So we get ourselves B/W. Hated the pokemons, but enjoyed the playthrough. HGSS was beautiful. Did not want to invest my money in B/W2, but end up getting it anyway. Really enjoyed that too, probably more than B/W, since it has good pokemons.
Had to get XY to play with my friend. Enjoyed the pokemon, but the playthrough itself was rather mediocre. Megas are shit. Got myself ORAS since I love Ruby. Didn't finish it and haven't touched it in a year. Do not want to get SuMo, but friend will force me to get it.

Currently I'm having a good time with the romhack Adventure: Chapter Red.
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>>3109285
>It's basically like Red and Blue
But that's the point. After constantly being bombarded with slightly more bloated reiterations of the same game, it simply stops being at all interesting. Having even more pokemons simply doesn't help.
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>>3109361
I would much prefer a Pokemon game where you're dropped in a city, and told "Pick a direction and start walking", and the rest of the world scales up with each trainer and gym leader you defeat.

Or hell, a Level Zero hack where Pokemon have fixed stats except for EV influence for true non-linearity.
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>>3109267
his head is not shaped like a pentagram anymore, that was the one thing I liked the most about this pokemon
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>>3109167
>I was a Digimon kid
Everyone hated you. Bet you smelled like cat pee, too.
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>>3109424
I know that kid. Btw that digimon cartoon was chocolate covered tits back in the day. Tried to get into the games recently but they didnt grip me
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>>3109424

>not liking both

I never saw Digimon as a pokemon killer. Also i found digimon way more mature themes than the pokemon audience at the time. Also i barely found any Digimon merchandise
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>>3109456
>that digimon cartoon was chocolate covered tits
This.

Pokemon for the games, Digimon for the cartoon, Yugioh for the cards.
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>>3109519
That seems pretty accurate but the yugioh games are pretty good too though.
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>>3109148
After I caught 'em all
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>>3109414
Instead its shaped like a hebrew star. What do you think the jews are up to with this?
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Ruby and Sapphire came out and I only had a GBC so I couldn't play them. What I did sample at Electronics Boutique didn't impress me much anyway.
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The last one I played while it was new was Pokemon Black, and after I got stuck at the Elite Four and couldn't be arsed to grind up my pokemans I kinda forgot about the games, but recently I've been playing Silver on and off on my phone and I've been enjoying it.
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>>3109148

Never enjoyed handheld games until the GBA, and by then I was 17. A bit too old to enjoy Pokemon when I'd never even played it before. Plus, I already had my favorite franchise from my childhood, Zelda.

I get the appeal, it is a grinding RPG where you can exploit the system to beat other people with your bag of overpowered monsters. Just don't want to waste my time to get into the games.
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>>3109218
Caring about "metagame" in any game is for losers.
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>>3109551
>A bit too old to enjoy Pokemon

You're never too old for Pokemon. Shit, I wear Pokemon shirts to the gym when I'm lifting weights and I'm 27.
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>>3109543
You should try FR/LG, emulate them that is.
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Being really honest right after finishing Red/Blue, I never thought Yellow was that good. Gold was a blast for me though, but it didn't impressed me so much as the first games, not technically but the novelty at the time. Sometimes I still play some R/B/G romhack
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>>3109556
I honestly 100% agree with this. I guess it's because I'm a 90's kid but I never cared for any meta game. I found all my joy from normal gameplay and if I wanted to play the game again I'd start a new game.

Also, from what I've seen the Pokemon metagame is mostly made up of 15 Pokemon that most people use over and over and over again.
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>>3109569
Yellow wasn't good at all. When I was a kid I loved it but looking back it was trying WAY too hard to be the anime.
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>>3109572

The physical/special split affected more than the meta game. It just enhanced the gameplay overall and gave you way more options for developing your Pokemon.
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>>3109580
I think you misunderstood my post. For the record I love the attack stat split, I'm just saying I have zero fucking interest on the online play. A lot of people claim the meta is the "main" part of a Pokemon game.
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>>3109582

Oh yeah, I don't give a shit about that either. It's all about the adventure for me.
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>>3109148
1997

>>3109560
Wait until you hit your 30s and you actually start getting old
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>>3109165
this tbqh famicom
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>>3109556
>>3109572
>lol chill bro, it's just a game
>I play for fun
>lmao sorry I don't have time to play this game twenty four hours a day
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>>3109641
Competition in games just promotes aggressive and even violent behavior.
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>>3109148
I was never that much into it, I beat Red and then traded it for Wario Land 2.
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>>3109641
Hello Smogon.
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The last main game I played was Gold back in 2001, put a lot of hours into it and played a lot with other friends. Around the time Gen 3 came out I lost interest, I was overwhelmed by the amount of pkmn, never played any other game since. I'm sure they're not bad games though.

My actual favorite Pokemon game is Pokemon Snap
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Pokemon Black and that was me trying to get back into it after a few years. I finished the game, quickly blasted through what little endgame content was left and was done. I'm not into the metagame and after so long I got tired of the same battle system. If I'm not into the RNG, metagame, and time consuming egg hatching I'm stuck with games bloated with so many legendaries that it means nothing anymore, the same combat where my decision is ultimately to just choose the strongest attack, and going through the same routes so I can meet the new bat, the new rodent, the new bird, the new bug after picking the same three types of starters.

The series is still good for others and that's fine. I like most of the new pokemon each gen comes up with.The metagame sounds like fun if you want to seriously dump that much time into it but my obsessions lie somewhere else. It's just, I don't know, boring to me. I don't think I've outgrown the series either, I'm just tired of the same stuff, the same decisions being made unless I do metagaming.
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>>3109251

Some things that are "different" in that game are amazing.

But... there is some powerful shit.

-Long, boring and empty Bridges.
-Simple map. VERY simple.
-More bridges.
-You can obtain berries... on a fucking website (now, dead, of course)
-"Hey, the plot is VERY important!", yeah... but as shitty as always

I like all the generations, but I think that 5 es the worst.
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>>3109148
Ruby/sapphire
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>>3109148
Played gen I, II and IV. Stopped caring after gen II. Was able to play gen IV for free since a friend lent it to me but any other game after gen II I have never bothered with.
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Best Game was Pokemon Aqua
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>>3109660
This is the new male, gentlemen.

Take it in, sip it, appreciate it.
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>>3109148
SoulSilver was the last game I played.
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gold/silver.

high school was around the corner and there wasn't this huge acceptance of it around teens/20somethings quite yet. at least not in my middle-of-nowhere southern school.

it was hard to find people to do trade/battles back then anyways. even when you had your own cable.
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Somewhere around GBA, when my pc got too shitty for emulation.
Had a minor resurging on Black and Black 2 since my gf wanted us to play together and I already had a Ds+R4.
Gen2 is still perfect.
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Yellow

I lived in an area with lots of Japanese and got a sneak peak at Gen 2. Realized that it was more of the same shit and sold my stuff.
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>>3109148

Never. Not to sound like a cunt desu but I'm older than most of you and when it broke, I was at an age where it seemed just a little bit too uncool to get interested in a children's game. And pokemon was more specifically marketed as a "children's game" than other games and toys and movies and things, I think it's reasonable to say.

Still, I liked games so since it was REALLY popular at one point I gave it an honest try. I collected like 20 animals over a few days or something, and just totally lost interest.
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>>3109148
never got into it. i was 16/17 when it came out and I think I was a bit too old for it to snare me. I was into Metal Gear Solid and Quake 3.

looking back tho, i gota confess a bit of envy for those who grew up with it tho. Helluva childhood anchor.
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ORAS. XY was pretty lame, and then ORAS came out and was shit, so I'm not too hopeful for the next one.
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>>3109660
>this is what /vr/ actually believes
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>>3109556
Do you understand what metagame is? Clearly you don't.

Ignore the metagame of a boxing match and you'll get knocked the fuck out.
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>>3109660
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>>3110280
ignore the metagame of pokemon and have fun
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>>3109218

Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you one of the 30 year old neckbeards who competes against literal 12 year olds in Pokemon championships.
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XY was the final straw for me, luckily the mystery dungeon games are still good so I'm not 100% ignoring the series.
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At Platinum, though the games I had before that was Red, then much later Sapphire, then Leaf Green. Sapphire was neat and of course I wanted a throw back to the original that was much faster and had a bit more content, but after that I was just sick of Pokemon because they just felt the same. I played my fill that I didn't need to play any other ones.

Just like Metriodvanias. There was a point that they just felt the same. I went from Aria of Sorrow to Harmony of Dissonance and it felt like too much retreading that I got bored quickly.
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I was an adult when pokemon was released and I knew it was an unparalleled kid storm before it even got to the US. I showed my girlfriend at the time a Pikachu themed jumbo jet and she was aghast.
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>>3110309
You cant ignore a metagame. Any battle is about feints, angles, and patterns.

If you ignore it, you opt for random attacks and movement. That's fisher price shit. Go play leapfrog.
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>>3109148
By Ruby and Sapphire.
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>>3109660
Competition is fine, its Esports thats cancer.
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>>3109556
>>3109660
Dude... no offense, work on your rethorics, seriously.
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after gold and silver only little autistic faggots kept playing it
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Am I the only one who played Red/Blue when it came out, and then just completely ignored the series? I enjoyed it when I played it, but couldn't understand the craze around it.
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>>3110369
pokemon is fucking leapfrog, the metagame is retarded bullshit its like the same tier as league of legends faggotry.
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Like 6 years ago, but Pokken Tournament has me kind of interested.
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>>3110396
Get good, padawan. You wont become a Jedi Knight hiding in the ghettoes of your ignorance.
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>>3109148
Halfway through Diamond. People kept saying it gets great post game so I pushed on but by the time I got there and got the pokemon I actually wanted to use it was pointless to even play online unless you spent 30 hours min/maxing every pokemon to have the best stats and items otherwise you just got rekt. Sucked all the fun right out of it.
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>>3110423
lol getting gud at pokemon is nothing to be proud of.

>HEY GUYS I MASTERED RANDOM CHANCE.

the meta boils down to the same faggots using the same pokemon with the same moves. There is no skill involved you could literally read instructions from a sheet on what party to use and what attacks and be just as successful as any other fag using the same meta because it all boils down to RNG at that point the game is like following a fucking recipe.

There is no skill involved kid competitive pokemon is a game for autistic shitbabbies
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>>3110456
Wow. You must have got smashed super duper hard to cry that much. I bet you dont even dozzle.
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>>3110528
you don't even have a retort because you know its recipe bullshit and you have to resort to lolumad?

nice try pokemon autist
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>>3110551
If it's recipe, why can't you win?
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>>3110559
because I don't play. I know you just want your wifes kids to think you're cool but competitive pokemon is autistic and they will see that when they turn 12.
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>>3110614
I may never be cooler than Jamaal, but I'll always be good at Pokemon. More than you can say.
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For me, I got into at at the first generation and the absolutley fell in love with the second generation, but sapphire and ruby were a massive let down for me so i didn't really bother after that. It wasn't till years later when hg and ss were released that i gave all of gen IV a go and found it was surprisingly likeable, but I have not enjoyed a generation since then.
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>>3110618
I'm good at counter strike though, and I don't even play anymore.
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I was already in my teens when Red and Blue first came out so no Pokemon fever here. But I was really into magic back then so I enjoyed pic related a lot for what it was.
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>>3110641
>good at CS
Dont ask dont tell. I dont care that you're gay but I don't want it talked about.
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It was a few months or so after I turned 12 years old.
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>>3109148
The last game I played all the way through was Black.
I liked it, but I couldn't get hyped about it like I usually did because I didn't have friends to talk to about it.

Soul Silver is my favorite. Emerald was a huge part of my pre-teen years.
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I thought it was so cool that Gold and Silver included the Kanto region, and when RS didn't have it I was disappointed. And there was no way to transfer my team to the new generation. Plus the designs just weren't as interesting. Ruby and Sapphire definitely killed it for me. Plus it added a bunch of other crap I didn't like like berries and Pokemon nature...god fuck that shit.
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>>3110741
Natures are awesome, faggot.

Fight me.
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>>3109148
With Diamond/Pearl
Then I picked it up again with platinum
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>>3110741
Berries were in Gold/Silver/Crystal... Only difference is you can choose to let your pokemon eat certain berries to gain stats for something involving a contest in R/S/E.

Change isn't always bad sempai.
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i love gen 1 and gen 2 aesthetic, entire series started going downhill after, aesthetics/sound design wise IMO
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>>3109560
>go to a gym to lift weights

For what possible reason? You get a gym membership if you want to do anything besides weight lifting or cardio. That's do it at home stuff.
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>>3110807
Berry berry trees or whatever it was. Change is bad when you're 14 and want the same experience you had before. Change isn't always good.
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>>3110840
Yeah you keep doing that
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Still haven't. I only play on Showdown, though.
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Honestly, I gave up on pokemon as soon as I found out about EV and IV bullshit. It's not fun grinding that stuff out and everyone online hacks their shit anyway.
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Played gen 1 and 2 as a kid
Skipped 3 and 4 since I was "too old for pokemon"
Played gen 5 and it was great, but I might have just liked it for the nostalgia
Played gen 6 and it was shit outside of a couple neat things like trainer customization
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Right after the first generation. In the world I live in there are only 151 Pokemon. Everything else is for newfags. I might be mistaken and its 152. I am always confused about Mew and Mewtwo but I thought Mewtwo is number 151.
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>>3110840
>try lifting dumbbells I found in basement
>the weights can be removed and changed and shit
>always make sure I tighten the weights on as hard as I can
>all's well for a couple weeks
>laying on back lifting dumbbells straight up and down
>the outer weights on one dumbbell come loose and land right beside my head
>tfw what if the inner ones had come loose
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>>3110741
Oh I totally forgot how much I hated the idea of 2v2 battles. It really fucked up the formula.
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>>3110906
t. urbo genwuner
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>>3110925
They're really bad in single player. Just eliminate one of the opposing pokemon and then it's two against one. There's a couple of support attacks and abilities that are basically useless in single's battles as well.
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>>3110840
oh my god
You must be trolling...
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Black & White
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>>3109148
After Gold/Silver/Crystal. Not because I had anything against the following gens (Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald I think? I'm only vaguely aware of what was introduced in any of the gens following GSC) but just because I was over pokemon. I loved the first two generations as a kid but by the time I was like 12 or 13 (which I think was about the year RSE came out) I just didn't care at all.
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>>3109148
3/4 of the way through Silver, when Gen2 was brand new. Didn't touch another pokemon game until Leafgreen, and since I've only played a few random hacks here and there. I like my pokemon simple without a whole bunch of extra bullshit like contests or whatever.
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>>3109148
yellow
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I came back for X and wish I didnt.
Not coming back again unless they change things around
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>>3109456
This pic has always seemed strangely crisp and clear.
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>>3109578
>Yellow wasn't good at all. When I was a kid I loved it but looking back it was trying WAY too hard to be the anime.

Actually I'd say it didn't try hard enough. I was expecting interesting scenarios and an altered map, but after you get Charmander the anime influences abruptly stop besides one Team Rocket grunt battle being replaced by a duo representing Jesse and James, and a surfing Pikachu game most players will never see.
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ORAS killed a lot of momentum and I basically stopped before the third gym on Ruby. however I got a free copy of sapphire weeks ago when I got the game for my nieces and they had a B2G1, and I'm actually enjoying Sapphire well enough now. Wonder Trade helps breath life into it; like a randomizer.

That said I still think the first gen does a lot of things well that haven't been properly brought into the newer gens. I love how much of the game map opens up 4 gyms in if you know what you're doing. You can face some gym leaders in differing orders. So can incorporate Pokemon from Cinnabar or the Safari Zone before you go through the Silph Co. grindfest. Its why I prefer it to the Gen II games, which are great the first time around but really lack variety to do multiple play throughs, and are way too linear.
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Hype reached critical mass at G/S and then trailed off after getting Sapphire.
>Bought Fire Red and played it for probably all of 5 minutes.
>Bought Diamond and played hardly any of it
>Bought Y and gave up after catching everything available up to eiffel tower gym.
>Bought ORAS limited editions and gave up by the first major city.

Really hoping S&M goes back to basics and caters to gen 1 and 2 fans. Expecting to be disappointed though.
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>>3111392
X and Y bent over backwards to cater to genwunners, even recycling the design of an entire area from RBY. Look how that turned out.

When you say "back to basics and caters to gen 1 and 2 fans" I hope to god you don't mean "remove all pokemon after 151" like every other fucking person seems to want for some ungodly reason.
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>>3109148
After completing Platinum
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>>3109157
This actually hit the nail on the head for me. I liked red and blue because I basically got a baby dragon at start. Gold and Silver released and I didn't care for any of the choices.

I guess I never really cared for the more crazy designs out there, I had a Charizard, Arcanine, Moltres, Ninetails, Haunter, and Persian on my team for end game, all of which who looked like similar other mythic or real creatures.
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After gen 1.

I didn't play Pokemon again until Fire Red, and that was only like a half a year before Diamond and Pearl came out.
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>>3111564
Seriously who the fuck would want any of these things?

I immediately boxed them and used a poochyena instead
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>>3109157
>>3111564
>>3111742
Oh come on, those three are fine until you evolve them
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>>3111403
it's really a design issue. Pokémon changed too much after G2. nuking every creature past #251 would be great.

but it's hardly just a problem with the Pokémon themselves, though. ranging from the areas to the overall tone. not to mention since BW there's too much backstory.
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>>3109660
Holy fuck dude.
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when i kissed a female
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>>3109220
Mega evolutions where the worst thing to happen to pokemon, second to 3d gfx. Nintendo should have kept there handhelds 2d
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>>3109148
After Gen3, I tried Pearl but got bored after the first couple of hours, I think the sort of people that enjoy Pokemon in adulthood are usually the people who have friends that also play who they compete against, I might try playing Heartgold and Omegaruby one day for nostalgia tho
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I wish I could stop
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>>3111757
>>3111742
Heard you were talking shit
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>>3109148
I didn't, except for in gen V. That was the fastest I've ever dropped a pokemon generation, maybe after a couple months after release. I didn't even get into gen VI for so long because of that. I've played Yellow, Fire Red, Gold, and Soul Silver god knows how many times though.

I'm really disappointed by how easy pokemon games are nowadays though. They were always easy, but now it's just stupid fucking easy.
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>>3111742
No starter will ever be as good as Charmander but Torchic evolved into a half phoenix/half rapist hybrid which was pretty based
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>>3111742
Fuck you. Mudkip and Swampert were my niggas
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I didn't. And from the looks of it, a majority of this thread never did either, despite saying otherwise.
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>>3112126
If I wanted to play Digimon, I would've fucking played Digimon!
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>>3110384
Pretty sure that was what was meant. The second cash prizes get involved in a game, it goes straight to hell. The players actually see poor players as a -threat- to their future earnings.
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No starter will ever be as good as Charmander ever again.
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I didn't.
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>>3112487
>Umbreon a boring stall Pokemon

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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After the GBA games. I gave Heat Gold a shot the other day but it's just too boring for me, I don't know. Fire Red is my favorite one.
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>>3109148
I loved this gen and played through it 3 times I think but gen 3 for me. It was my last gen and at that point the formula was definitely getting stale to me. I was a teen at that time and I always even back then loved the first gen games the best. I also feel the look/graphics of the games started to suck after gen 3. Gen 1-3 all look good to me. They all have their appeal.

The only thing I definitely like from the later gens that I read about is the physical/special split and the easier to train IV's and EV's (not that I would even care much but it's a nice fix for sure). These changes aren't drastic enough to get me back into the series though. Also why can't they just do 3 types for certain pokemon? Why not retcon certain pokemon to better make things work? For example the mega for charizard is either fire flying or dragon flying. Why not one mega and it's a dragon/fire/flying type? Aerodactyl is the same way. And I thought Geodude is better suited as a plain old rock type. No more ground type for the geodude family line.

I know why they don't do this but it just still seems weird to me. I never found these games to ever be worthy of having true balance. I always played them for fun. Not for multiplayer balance.
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>>3112669
3 types would make the type chart a mess (remember, pokemon is a kid's game) and give too big of a combat advantage with 3 STABs, Geodude is half ground because it burrows underground, and Charizard has X and Y megas for exclusivity between versions.
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>>3109525
>the yugioh games are pretty good too though.
They're just simulations of the card game.
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Gold and Silver, I played those to death though.
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>>3110317
Posts like these are why /vr/ is the shittiest board
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>>3109148

It was actually gen 2. I like the simplicity of Pokemon as a single player RPG. All the complexity added in later games was for training and the metagame. It's just too much effort for what used to be an 8-bit RPG.
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>>3109148
after the 2nd gen. i was briefly into yugioh but that died when dungeon dice monsters was the thing. awful.
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>>3109181
While I enjoyed that gen I'm not sure I could go back to it now. Since it was the first gen on the ds they apparently felt like they needed to rely on the touch screen for way too much shit.
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>>3109218
>The entire metagame
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>>3112863
>when dungeon dice monsters was the thing

so you mean never?
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>>3111765
Nintendo should just do a hard reboot of the series with entirely new mons and a new art style. They should also remove HMs, theme gyms around something other than types, let Pokemon learn more than 4 moves, let the player carry more than 6 Pokemon at a time, etc.

I lost interest in the series because it hasn't changed in a significant way from a design standpoint since Gen 2. It's not so much that I grew out of it, it's that the game hasn't grown whatsoever.
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>>3112948
So what you're saying is, you want a game that isn't pokemon, but has the same name as it?
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>>3112969
I want a game that isn't the same Pokemon that they've been rereleasing for more than a decade. There's so much more they could do with the concept without sticking to the same stale formula and tropes. All of Nintendo's other series are able to change things up nicely, but Pokemon is completely stale.
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>>3109220
I don't really get what the idea behind mega evolution was. Why not just make the forms a normal evolution?
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>>3109519
>Yugioh for the cards

and no one ever played the card game, they just collected them. Just like with Pokemon cards before.
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>>3112126
>3d gfx

These aren't inherently a bad thing. But I can see how needing to model every fucking form of every fucking pokemon could cause them to end up not being able to focus in other areas.

Hopefully now that all those models are made they can just keep on reusing them over and over until they need to make another leap. So hopefully they can focus more on everything else.
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>>3112979
>I want a game that isn't the same Pokemon that they've been rereleasing for more than a decade.

Try the side games.
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>>3112981
>and no one ever played the card game
That's bullshit and you know it
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>>3113042
If you played the card game then you are literally no body.
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>>3113049
fuck you my whole school played that shit. battles during lunch/recess err day
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>>3110317
Why wouldn't you assume that the neckbeards compete with each other?
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>>3109148
i forced myself to beat black on the DS so I guess I stopped caring after diamond and pearl
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when it went 3D

it looks so goddamn ugly now. X and Y was my breaking point. They didnt even try, even stadium had more enjoyable battle animations, and thats fucking sad.
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>>3109148
pokemon became a fad when i was in grade 4, by the time gold and silver came out, i had stopped caring
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I didn't stop liking it like I do not stop liking old games.
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>>3109148
When I couldn't play it at obscene speeds like you could on GBC emulator.
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>>3109148
When did pokemon come out again? Then.
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>>3113210
Your age is showing
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That's a good question, I can't remember really. Crystal and Stadium 2 were the last entries in the series that I have played. It must have been around 2002 I'll say when I moved on to other things.
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>>3113476
meant to put that I have kinda started playing it again here and there, but maybe caring and playing are 2 different things, idk
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>>3109148
After HeartGold. Crystal was the first pokemon game I played and I loved it. I also really liked Ruby, Firered and Diamond/Platinum, just cause of the relatively new quirks and additions each game had. Honestly though, HeartGold took my breath away. It really brought the 2nd gen back to life for me and made me feel like I was a 5 year old again, getting reacquainted with the world of Pokemon. I just love how there was so much new material and things to do, on top of the things that you could do in both Johto and Kanto. I playedWhite,White2 and OR last year. White and White 2 were pretty good, but the lack of postgame content kinda pissed me off a little, but hey that's just me. Omega Ruby was shit. Nothing was added except for 3D graphics, Mega evolutions (which literally take away most of the fun away from the game ) and a chapter about Rayquaza or some shit (which you literally can't lose and get an even more unbalanced Pokemom. Yay) Honestly, I wished they stuck with Black and White's formula and try to do something different that increases the viability of the series. It's clear that Mega-Evolutions are a gimmick that doesn't add any depth to battle. It basically makes it so that all you need to do is hit one button to win. Compare this to the use of Berries, breeding, abilities and the Physical-Special split. This made combat more meaningful and made having a clear strategy more advantageous than mashing A (at least most of the time). That also made the game way more enjoyable.
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>>3113523
(My blog pt.2)
Little things like that can make or break how enjoyable the game is. Also, the games have become especially tutorial-heavy and full of "cheats". When I went to Winona's Gym, I just sent out my Vibrava and spammed Rock Slide till all her Pokemon were dead. I did some mini-game that increased it's attack and speed to a point where I would attack first and harder. That's fucking retarded. When I first played Ruby, I had to use at least three or four Pokemon for this gym, just to make sure I had an advantage over her. Why are the games so damn easy, even by Pokemon terms? I really just don't care anymore. Pokemon used to be pretty good. Not amazing, but it was a good series of games just due to the ability for a hardcore player and a casual player to be able to play it and enjoy the experience. Now, it's dead for all I care. Also the waifus are shit. Cynthia, Clair,Flannery and Lorelei best girls. The ones from Gen 5 were alright too.
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Literally every single time I get to Fuchsia

Every time I'm like UGH I didn't grind hard enough so you go back to the fuckin' Bike Road and the Fisherman Path and fight all the guys, and for some reason I'm still not good enough for Koga, and then I tap out

But I mean as far as the games go? Ruby was interesting but I just didn't give a hot shit. I tried to get into Pearl - it was cool and internet trading was dope, but I just didn't bother.

I told myself if I buy Pokemon Red for 3DS and actively finish it, I'll get a bank account and get X or Y - if not Sun/Moon

I tried to play Fire Red a few years ago and got stupid drunk trying to catch an Articuno. I woke up in the stupid cave, lost as all fuck, and Articuno wasn't there. Turns out I caught it and passed out - I nicknamed it "THA BESSSSSSS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVUyyHYkBHk
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>>3109148
I never did. Though I haven't enjoyed the latest Gen, I consider that a problem with those specific games and not the franchise as a whole (which does have problems but are still overall enjoyable despite them).
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>>3110456
Depending on the meta teams can be rather diverse. There are of course Pokémon that rise to the top but on good years like 2014 you can see a good bit of variety among the top teams. Though there are bad years like 2015, as well.
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I played Black and White when the were dumped as roms and fan translated and upon completing them completely lost interest. Did even look into B2W2 and wasn't interested in HGSS at all. X and Y came out and I couldn't muster up any enthusiasm then ORAS came out and I got AS because some friends were getting them so I could play with them and I wanted to see the new content. I've basically 100% the game because I have no job or life but if you took it off me I probably wouldn't care.
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>>3113980
>needing to grind at something as easy as Pokémon
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Gen 4 after a long hiatus (5+ years). Got about halfway through Platinum when I said "Man, this is boring" and never picked up the series again.
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When it became solely about the spectacle of new pokemon, being set on a linear path with new villains to thwart and new legendaries, not just about losing yourself in a well-designed world with all the other stuff as background fluff. The series has been very flanderized since RSE
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Never stopped caring about pokemon; just stopped caring about new releases after generation 3.

GSC are my favorites.
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>>3110741
I was fine with natures, hated abilities passionately.
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>>3111742
But don't u liek mudkipz?

I herd u did.

But seriously, RSE were okay. But I greatly preferred gold/silver/crystal and the originals. Particularly GSC.
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>>3112487
Espeon's cooler than umbreon. Fight me bro.
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>>3112206
Now that's what's up nigga
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Got bored of the series after Silver, really. I also bought Diamond but never finished it.
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>>3109148

When I started playing dragon warrior monsters
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>>3109148
That shit got fucking potatoe after Gen 3. And when remastered Gen 2 and Gen 3 came out, they'd already made it way too complicated.
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>>3111564

>having 4 fire types in the same team, two of them fyre/flying

lol what a fucking retard
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>>3114541
>way too complicated

What exactly is complicated?
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>>3115560
Not him, but I despise abilities.
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>>3115763
I think they add to the game. There are a couple annoying ones but I think every Pokémon having an extra quality to them helps make Pokémon of the same type feel more unique, like Zigzagoon's Pickup ability.
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As soon as Gen 1 Yellow was released. I gave up.
It was bad enough that two games were required to make it work; but now a third game comes out that just panders to the people who watched the cartoon?
Yup, Pokemon ceased to be a thing for me then. About a year of liking it, and a lifetime since of cynicism.
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>>3115872
>Mundane entertainment methods aimed at masses do not harmonize with my mature taste. Now I look down upon sheeple who mindlessly buy games that cater to their liking, smirking cynically at their ignorance
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>>3115872
>two games were required to make it work
the fuck are you talking about? Whole difference was few exclusive catchable guys for each version, and only reason behind that was to emphasise trading and battling, as gameboy classic had almost non-existent multiplayer and link cable usage before release of Pokemon. Pretty much everyone bought just one version in each gen.
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>>3114647
Yeah, what a loser, right? Who the fuck picks Pokemon with designs that they like or groups based on certain themes instead of compiling possibly most overpowered team in each gen? Some people really don't know how to play video games!
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>>3115763
Abilities were great thing to add on, and with most pokes having more that one to pick from, they provide some nice variety when it comes to strengths and weaknesses.
Fuck static, poison point and effect spore though, getting through some routes with every wild pokemon carrying one of those was suffering. I've developed fear of hitting any electric or grass pokemon with physical move because of that.
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>>3109660
I thought all the retards would be back on
>>>/v/
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>>3116083
I would call /vr/ the best board on whole 4chan if not for dum dums who hand out replies to even most obvious baits
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>>3109165
This
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>>3109148
I was about 12 when it happened. Yellow is/was/will always be one of my most favorite games of all time. I managed to catch all 151 back then. Got Mew from an actual event at the mall, got the Surfing Pikachu from Pokemon Stadium.

About a week later, there's nothing to do, thought I'd get around to trying that surfing pika mini game that I spent all that summer to unlock.

>New Game
>Options

I had played with Yellow for so long that the internal battery had died.

No man/woman/child should outlive their fictional surfing electric mice.
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>>3114015
This is exactly what happened to me, right down to the fan translation.

I still play Crystal all the time though.
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>>3115959
You know what pisses me off? Levitate. God-damned levitate. Fuck abilities. They suck.
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>>3109148
Genwunner.

Pokemon died for me at whatever came after Ruby/Saphire.
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I recommend replacing the SRAM in your old pokemon games with FRAM (ferroelectric RAM), if you're handy with a soldering iron. This is a nonvolatile memory so if your battery does again your game keeps saving, the clock just stops in GSC. You don't even NEED a battery in R/B/Y after you do this.
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>>3115946
Yeah really. The whole point of Pokemon was to break the stigma of video games (particularly RPG's) being a solitary activity for lonely nerds.

>>3114176
That's fine. I like all the eons.
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>>3116498
It's not really hard to memorize which guys can levitate, and it's actually a great way to nerf earthquake spam a little bit. It's kinda bummer though that some guys like Gastly or Koffing (why not Magnemite?) received relatively powerful ability that negates their major weakness, while others have to survive with irrelevant shit like Run Away or Early Bird.
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>>3109165
this
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>>3116498
Ground was already kind of overpowered. Levitate makes some kinda shitty Pokemon more viable.

>>3109165
I was fine after 250, I liked they they kept making new ones. They lost me when the new ones they were making just seemed like lazy copies of earlier pokemon. Did we really need more seal and crab Pokemon?

That and in the last one I played, there were supposed to be like 600 Pokemon in the game but half the game seemed to be still just fighting Zubats and Geodudes.

One day Pokemon Online will come out and my life will be over.
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>>3117007
>They lost me when the new ones they were making just seemed like lazy copies of earlier pokemon
Yeah I know what you mean. Gen 5 was the worst in this regard. Literally every single mon is basically just a clone of a gen 1 mon. It feels like a Chinese knockoff.

Gen 4 was when Pokemon lost its soul. It had none of the fun gimmicky pokemon like ditto, smeargle, unown, and shedinja.
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>>3109148
when your mom sucked me off last night
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Probably ruby/sapphire. I never finished either of them.

I played Black for a week or so a ways back and had fun, but I don't have the patience for it anymore.
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Played Gen 1 and 2 obsessively when I was a kid.
A decade later, I gave it a second chance on DS with Gen 4. I finished it, but mindlessly through long subway trips exclusively. Zero investment.
Then when Gen 2 remake came out, I played Soul Silver right until Kaito's league (didn't bother with Red, the level curve spikes up way too much) and realized I loved it just because it felt like "what I remember playing Gold felt like" through my nostalgia goggles. And I realized that was the definitive Pokemon experience for me, and completely stopped caring about it. If I ever play Pokemon again, it'll most likely be another playthrough of Soul Silver ten years from now.
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>>3117257
I agree with you about Gen 4's original games. But the Gen 2 remakes were amazing. honestly, I think they're the best pokemon games to date tbqh. They had all the content from the original games while at he same time adding so much more to make a new experience. Also Gen 4 had some sorta-gimmiiky pokemon, like Froslass and Gallade which only evolve if you give them to a female Snorunt and male Kirlia, respectively. But for the most part, you're right on the money.
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>>3117306
By them, (wih regards to the Froslass and Gallade), I meant a Dawn Stone
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>>3117007
Seals and sea lions are different animals, same goes for crabs and cancers. There are only this many unique animal/plant/inanimate object designs you can use. I admit though that they should at least make them with different, unusual typings, having two water/ice arctic mammal or three flying/bug butterfly families is a waste of potential.
Also, how the fuck we are after gen VI by now and there is still no dolphin
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>All people here who complain about next generations that lost their soul or are lazy copies of earlier ones.
It's not the Pokemon games that go in wrong direction, we are just growing up. There was a time when we were 10 and playing Red or Blue to the best of our abilities, struggling with every leader or elite four member, trying to use bros that we like despite their shallow movepools and bad stat distribution, believing that Charizard with ember, flamethrower, fire blast and slash is the best thing ever. Now, we are grizzled veterans of RPGs that can breeze through any modern Pokemon game without much effort, properly using type advantages, moves and abilities and wrecking every single opponent. Current Pokemon designs are not in any way better or worse than old ones too, we just stick to familiar ones that we've talked about with friends when we were kids.
Also, there is this thing about Nintendo is aiming new games primarily at Nipponese audience and secondarily at Murrika and Europoor. And majority of Japanese fans of Pokemon are kids, so games cannot be overly complicated and hard. They are still popular among kids who started with gen V or VI, so newer games have the same charm for then as they had for us back then. And each new game has longer playtime and more post-game content to enjoy.
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I completely lost interest when 3rd gen came out. I've never played anything past G/S except for their DS remakes.
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>>3117435
> There was a time when we were 10 and playing Red or Blue

Not necessarily. I was in my 20's when Pokemon came out and it was massively popular at my college. Beating the main game was never the tough part, it was all about building and raising teams.

I think a lot of it is that you just can't play the same game over and over and over. So eventually it was going to get boring. But Pokemon X/Y aren't made for people who have been playing since Red, it's for people who that's their first or second game in the series.


>There are only this many unique animal/plant/inanimate object designs you can use.

There are enough different animals they didn't need to resort to very similar ones so quickly. Only some of the Pokemon are clearly animal based anyways. But agreeing, I would have been fine with Spheal and it's evolutions if they were more interesting, or had different types.
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>>3109240
Mega evolutions are retarded. This isn't digimon.

I bought a DS for OR and was very disappointed. The charm of the games on the original systems is completely gone, and the game feels empty. I went back and tried Diamond as well, and was even less impressed. There's no sense of discovery that let you make it past the non-existent difficulty and childish writing.
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>>3112126
3D grafx are great and the direction where the series rightfully went after Stadium 1 on the N64.
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>>3117468
I agree with you, I forgot there were some people who were already adult when first generation came out, as in my country it was always considered kiddie way of entertainment (Red and Blue came at the same time as Pokemon cartoon, Pokemon collectible stickers, Pokemon tazo tokens in chips and whatnot). It's kinda nice to learn how it looked and felt like from your point of view.
I agree that Pokemon X/Y is aimed mostly at newcomers (decline of quality and content at the expense of better graphics), but earlier B2W2 games were probably most complex games so far, with longest main story, plenty of post-game content activities, secrets, minigames, battles with weirdest sets of rules and so on. I've started with Red and whole gen V was still a real feast to me.

>There are enough different animals they didn't need to resort to very similar ones so quickly
I agree, but it does not apply very well for bug and water types. First two gens introduced plethora of various animals that fit to those types and now they are out of ideas so they have to put in more and more generic fishes and caterpillars because there is really nothing groundbreaking left, hard to blame them.
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After RSE. Personally I just never found the 3D graphics all that appealing, it just felt a bit.. forced? Fake? I don't know. However I haven't tried the new 3DS ones and at one point I would like to.
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>>3110906

Mewtwo is 150 and Mew is 151 IIRC
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Call me a "genwunner" but the first 150, maybe gen 2 as well, just has a distinct design that was really appealing. You could show me a Digimon and a Pokemon from XY and I couldn't tell them apart.
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>>3117789
new Pokemon compared to old Digimon, maybe, but then again, old Digimons weren't half bad. But never ever compare anything to new Digimon, nothing alse has fallen low enough to be on the level of those atrocities
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>>3117860
yo dawg
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>>3111742
the chicken is fine
>>3117860
Hilarious isn't the same as terrible
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>>3115560
push button and fite pokemanz is complucated 4 me.
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>>3118090
Every new Digimon is fusion of metal, guns/cannons, dragons and wolves. Every single one of them. I don't see anything hilarious about designs that are embodiment of Beyblade or Kingdom Heart fanfics written by 12 year olds. Unless Digimon devs are operating on the levels of sarcasm unknown to the man.
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>>3109148
Didnt have a gba. My brother did and continued playing pokemon. If it had two save slots maybe we'd be talkin.
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>>3118128
this could use some sonic.
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>>3115951
Hey kid, my old team would've wiped the floor with ya.
Because I played 3 water types
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>>3118128
I still think that first one was hilarious, though his toes should really also be barrels.
How the hell are you even aware of new digimon?
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>>3109148
I never was into it as a kid, I did enjoy the show for how cheesy it is.
Bought yellow a couple years ago and thought it was okay, even put 30+ hours but then stopped.
I also bought a copy of Gold for $12~ and thought it was a good deal, but the battery was dead. Gave it to my cousin for repair since he "knew a guy", and it's been at least 3+ years since then.
Not mad, just annoyed.
That's my experience with Pokemon, oh yeah and porn.
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>>3117257
>Literally every single mon is basically just a clone of a gen 1 mon. It feels like a Chinese knockoff.

Gen 5 has a ton of original Pokémon, and even some of the Pokémon with the same general concept are pretty different, like Amoongus versus Electrode.

>Gen 4 was when Pokemon lost its soul. It had none of the fun gimmicky pokemon like ditto, smeargle, unown, and shedinja.

Burmy, Shellos, and Cherrim say hi.
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