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>people who emulate
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> People who've only played the small percentage of games they can afford to own
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>>3096591
>People who care about other people emulating or not
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There's nothing wrong with emulation.

People want to play games as opposed to the collector aspect and that's fine.
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> people who bought one flashcart and suddenly feel they are superior to the rest of the wrold
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>paying 2016 prices to "collect" video game cartridges
You are actually a retard if you do this
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>failing this bait
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>Emulation is important to gaming heritage.
>Also it's hard to get hold of the original hardware.
>The batteries in carts ran dry long ago
>Thank fuck abandonedware websites exist otherwise allot retro games would died with redundant hardware
>weather your hardcore neck beard collector or the average broke gamer haveing access to the games you want to play is essential.
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I bought a Retro Trio and I won't buy flashcarts. I will buy actual games.

My famicom is a famiclone.
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>>3096683

>batteries in carts ran dry long ago

you don't need to lie when there are valid points to emulation. however, this isn't one of them.
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>>3096591
Youre the same person who when someone grabs an image off of google quickly and posts it. You come in and say something autistic like "HURRR FITLERS!!"
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>>3096597

This. Most collectors are just hoarders and only play a fraction of the games they buy. These are the people paying multiple times what the game was sold for when it was released for 20+ year old cartridges. These are the people paying 50 bucks for a fucking box, not a game, just the game's box. They have big shelves filled to the brim with old games they paid way too much for, that sit there all pretty and alphabetised, gathering dust. Now, I'm sorry if you're the kind of collector who actually does play the games you buy, and isn't just doing it out of some uncontrollable OCD-like habit. But just look at this board, as a microcosm of the retro gaming commmunity, and see how the collectors behave. We have many threads with people actually talking about games, obviously participated in by people who play games with some frequency. And then we have the portion of threads made by and for the 'collector' types. There's rarely any discussion about the games or how they play, it's always them with pictures of boxes, or it's them with pictures of their CRTs, or possibly them bemoaning the skyrocketing prices that THEY caused in the first place.

And I wouldn't even give a shit if so many of them weren't such fucking elitists. But they are, and their threads are always cluttering up the catalog here with their boring shit that's more about retro nostalgia than it is about actual video games.
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>>3096718
Not him, but as someone who's replaced many a Genesis battery in my day but now emulates, I'm happy to not have to deal with that bullshit anymore.

The only loss is not finding hidden saves, but that's just one of those little collecting things. I delete them anyways.
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>>3096709
I hope you already have everything worth playing, because even common games are starting to cost an arm and a leg
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>Thread that tries to bait consolefags: is dead on arrival
>Thread that tries to bait emulatards; they bite it hook, line, & sinker

Congrats, guys. You live up to your reputation.
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>>3096724
I have a friend like this. Not the elitist part, just the OCD collector part. His gaming room is just wall to wall shelves lines with games he mostly hasn't played. He wants to own every NA released JRPG, but never has time for any of them.

And it doesn't stop at retro. It just keeps going, and now with Steam he has thousands of games he touches maybe 5% of.
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>>3096734
Meh, there's nothing else going on.
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>>3096736
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>>3096734
I don't know. I feel like the sensible having not paid $40 for Contra.
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>>3096597
playing emulators kind of sucks though. i see why it's useful, and why people do it, but it's just not as good.
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>>3096724
I buy physical copies of retro games that I know I'll put a lot of time into, because games usually look and play better on their original hardware.

I don't understand the hoarding mindset either. Very few games are even worth playing in the first place, let alone owning.
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>>3096765
How do you think it sucks? So long as the emulator isn't laggy, I think it's just as good if not better. Partly I don't like CRT screens, so I'd rather see the games on another display. And also it's great to take games on the go with you as well.
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>>3096591
>not owning a physical copy of your favorite games
>not having a push button giant home theatre video game entertainment center
>not having your pc hooked up as well to it
>not emulating your favorite games with rom hacks and extending their experience
>not playing phantasy star 4 in hell mode with standard exp
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>>3096782
i have a lot of experience playing games on their original hardware in addition to emulator, and the emulated version rarely feels as good to play as it does on a real console. it's hard to explain, but there are subtle inaccuracies in controls and physics among other things like the graphics looking fake and shitty and input lag, which nearly all emulators have no matter what you're playing them on.

source: i speedrun games and primarily use original hardware, but spend a decent amount of time playing and testing things with emulators.
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>>3096801
>i have a lot of experience playing games on their original hardware in addition to emulator,

Me too.

>and the emulated version rarely feels as good to play as it does on a real console.

I don't experience this though. Like I say, I think it feels just as good. Maybe it's that I'm old and too slow to notice the difference, or maybe it's there but so subtle I don't care. To each their own though, if you prefer hardware then rock on.
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>>3096604
A Krtko Pepe? Holy crap that is one _rare_ pepe.
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>>3096591
>>>/v/
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And miss playing Little Samson? No thanks.
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>>3096591
>>Mfw
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>>3096801
I dunno, the only emulation I can't stand is DS since dual screens and touch controls really don't work that well with a single monitor and a mouse, though the former can be alleviated with a dual screen setup.

Most importantly, though, many emulators have a turbo function and I greatly appreciate that.
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Had a guy in my local game store emulating on his psp near me. I came close to vomiting.
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>>3096724
THey suck at the games too
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>>3097190
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>>3096591
>people who make meme arrow threads.

>people who buy their games from ebay.
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>>3097190
you should have. it's 2016, psp's a piece of shit for emulation of most systems.
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>>3096724
Listen here, fucknugget. I don't give a SHIT about how you play your LE RETRO fucking games. Maybe you played an NES once when you were 10 because your hipster shit big brother brought one home from the epic flea market before he flipped it to buy a new scarf after watching an episode of Pawn Stars and now you think it is cool to like old shit because JonTron told you to do it, but you'll NEVER be accepted among those who actually played this shit YEARS ago and aren't fad-following YouTube kiddies just waiting for your next big find because let's face it, the seond you get your OMG LITTLE HAMPTON you'll be taking fucking pictures of your EPIC HAUL to plaster all over your Facebook group because you are so desperate to fit in. Your Alienware machine running ZSNES with that awful fucking smoothing filter doesn't have shit on anything, got that? Maybe it will hold you over, but don't pretend like you aren't desperate for the real deal so you can start your fucking YouTube collecting channel like Pete fucking Dorr.

I just don't fucking care.
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>>3097180
Nintendo DS games look BEAUTIFUL on CRTS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliRmeKx6AQ
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>>3096931
It's Krtko Spurdo.
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>>3097384
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>>3096592
Yep, these threads are made by people in the used vidya business.

LOL spending inordinate amounts of money on used vidya...
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>>3097112
it's not a good game anyway
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>>3096591
>static gifs
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>>3096591
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>>3096592
> People who've only played the small percentage of games they can afford to own
i can afford to buy as many games as i want, but i don't see a reason to either own or emulate fuckloads of games when almost none of them are good.

very few video games are worth playing.
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>>3096591
>posting GIFs that are static
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>>3098938
Which ones do you think are worth playing?
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>>3099120
Aleste Gaiden.
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>people who post /v/ shit on /vr/
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>>3099123
Alas that's pretty gay den.
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>>3098938
>>3099123
>I don't always buy extremely obscure expensive shmups for Japanese computers
>But when I do, I don't play test them first
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Could some janitor/mod explain what this thread contributes to the board and why it should be kept here?
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>>3097190
upvoted
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>>3096683
>Emulation is important to gaming heritage.
No it isn't
>Also it's hard to get hold of the original hardware.
With the Internet, it's easier than ever before to get the original hardware
>The batteries in carts ran dry long ago
No, I have several games from before I was even alive that have their batteries in working condition
>Thank fuck abandonedware websites exist otherwise allot retro games would died with redundant hardware
If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway. b-but muh Genesis/TG-16/sonytrash

It's irrelevent to gamings real history. Nintendo is the only company allowed to make or host video games.
>weather your hardcore neck beard collector or the average broke gamer haveing access to the games you want to play is essential.
Holy shit, gameboy games are expensive! WahhH!
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>>3096724
You don't deserve to play the games if they're not being played on the actual hardware with a real cart. End of story.

>B-but I'm too poor!
if you can't afford to buy games, you shouldn't be playing them.

>b-but resellers!

They're scum and need to be stopped at all costs, yes. However, get the fuck over it.
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>>3096853
do you live in a dumpster!
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>>3097384
>>3101105

Wow you are fucking autistic. You need to execute yourselves stat.
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>>3101097
>No it isn't, and here are all the reasons why
>Oh

>>3101105
>You don't deserve to play the games if they're not being played on actual hardware

Do you not understand how emulators work? They're playing the original rom with an emulated system. It's essentially the same experience, game wise. I do agree that it's nice to have the consoles though.

Also, lose the attitude. You're being a dick for no reason, both of you.
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>>3101105
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>>3101105
>if you can't afford to buy games, you shouldn't be playing them.

Geeze, that's harsh. I agree that the experience is way better with the hardware. It sucks playing a game designed for a console on a keyboard. Even if you've got a controller hookup, it still doesn't feel the same.

But how far are you going to go to achieve authenticity? I mean, if you emulate NES games, do you need a CRT tv? Do you need a CRT tv that was made before the mid-90s?

And, honestly, when I was a student I couldn't afford the games. I shouldn't have been playing them because I should've been studying, but not because I couldn't afford the real deal. Once I got the money, I started to buy them.

In matters like this, authenticity is overrated but not valueless.
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>>3101097
> I have several games from before I was even alive
>If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway.


Thanks anti-emulation kiddie, this just made my day.
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>>3101105
>if you can't afford to buy games, you shouldn't be playing them.

The entire point of copyright law is to compensate people for their efforts, clearly irrelevant here. What did you think it was for, to just punish poor people for being poor?
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>>3101105
>>3101097
>>3097384
Millennials everyone. How the hell did they get so damn entitled and narcassistic? They expect everyone to do the exact same thing they do and if they don't they're a piece of shit.

Worst generation i've ever seen
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>>3102272
Hooboy, Gen X getting their jimmies rustled.
>people different than me are the worst, everyone born from 1988 till 1999 are the same person.
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>>3102270
Half the reason I emulate now is that paying for used physical copies doesn't support the original developers in any way.

The flip side is when games are given a digital re-release I will often buy them if I like the game just to support it. Sega 3DS classics are a perfect example of the kind of work I like to support.
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>>3102281
Dollars to doughnuts he's technically a millenial himself.
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>>3096591
>he shitposts on /vr/
Please, kill yourself.
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>>3102307
>he shitposts
>kill yourself

You're not even trying to be ironic are you?
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>>3102289
>>3102281

You've sperged out plenty already in this thread samefag. I'm just laughing at you at this point
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>>3096591
stay mad
stay jelly

he so jelly
he got no games
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>>3096591
>people who pay for roms
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>>3102343
But anon, all games are rom--oh
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>>3102314
>Hahohuehehaho ha
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>>3096591
>people who are weeb faggots obsessed with ugly gooks
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>people who buy mods of games on carts
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>>3102872
Please ignore the intentional troll, DO NOT FEED.
Do not take the bait.
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>>3102882
Ah, so you are justifying this?
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>people who weren't born at the right time to experience retro vidya in its heyday
>people who weren't idorts back in the day and got every game they wanted
>people who got into classics for the first time through emulation
>people who don't know the little joys of maidenhood
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ITT:

Snobbery
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>>3096607
Ok, reported you.
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>>3099268
It's called bait and it is good for clicks.

Every time this same thread dies it is instantly created so like most of the horse shit on 4chan one can conclude that it is a mod who makes these identical bait threads.
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>>3096591
>buying abandonware
Good goy.
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>>3103381

>I was born in the year 2000 so everyone else must have too and it's impossible for people to have bought older systems and games back when they were new
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>>3103392
>Everyone bought every game they ever wanted to play when it was new
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>>3103397

You got exposed, kiddo. Go back to your emulation.
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>>3103392
>he hoards games

Have fun when you lose them all in a natural disaster or when some niggers decide to come loot your home.
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>>3103434
>commit felonies
>to take video games

good one
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>>3103434

Your jelly, it feeds me

>tfw I have a lot of great games from my childhood that now go for hundreds of dollars and are hard to find
>tfw kids on 4chan get salty because their only option is input lagletion

Feels fucking good can't lie
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>>3103443
It happened to me, it's how I lost my saturn.
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>>3103454
Why should I be jelly? I have every game at my disposal due to emulation. :)

I think you're the jealous one because you're too stupid to figure out how to run an emulator.
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>>3103462
>:)

Mad as all fuck.

And yes, yes you're jelly. You wish you could experience the real thing but can't!

I emulate sometimes, just to laugh at how fake it feels and imagine how a lot of kiddies think it's even remotely close to the real thing.
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>>3098938
Bullshit: the Post

I can guarantee two things:
- You can't afford NP Sutte Hakkun or KoF2k
- You'll respond "they're not good games anyway :^)"
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>>3096724
>Most collectors are just hoarders and only play a fraction of the games they buy.

What objective metric or proven study are you basing that on?
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>>3103493
None, just like damn near every post on here
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>>3103497
Touché.
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>>3096591
Feels good to play everything for free. Expecting me to buy from re seller scum for OP prices.
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>>3103621
>Complaining about resellers
>Not garage sale hunting

Like, I agree, but come on, now.
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>>3103635
The age of finding pearls before swine at a garage sale is over. Many people can just research the eBay value and mark thier sale accordlingly.
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>>3103641
And you can still haggle, you just have to be logical and appeal to them. For example;

>It's old, vintage means valuable
>"I don't see vinyl or cassette being treated this way, how is this any different?"

Just as an example.
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>>3096591
People that post pictures of Asian women.

You have a loli body pillow on your futon and little dolls on your shelves don't you...
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>>3103667
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Hide the thread, if you don't like it.
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>>3103672
As much as an Asian gurls pic with a 1 line shitpost not even mentioning classic games? Shove a zapper up your urethra faggot.

There now it's vr related :)
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>>3103681
What part of "hide the thread" don't you understand? Shitposting only leads to more shitposting. You're proving that right now, actually.

Take your salt elsewhere, preferably somewhere where someone will smack some sense into you.

>:)

I'm sure you feel really cool right now. Good for you.
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>>3103691
>Don't post on mah internet.
>don't make fun of my waifu
>somebody should beat you up
This guy.

Emulating is fine, not everyone has access, funds, or maybe even a want for old electronics. This entire board should be about the appreciation of gaming's yesteryear instead we have shithead elitists trying to act superior because they have a piece of plastic or cardboard.

Leave and never come back pillowfucker.
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>>3103691
The thread is against the rules of the board, thus it should not be here.
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>>3103710
I'm not telling you to not post, I'm telling you that you should post productively (translation: not shitposting). Nice sidestep.

I just find your knee-jerk reaction to a trivial image posted on the internet extremely pathetic. Don't you have any level of constitution?

And where did I say that emulating wasn't fine? Lose the 'tude.

>>3103716
How so? It's a thread about how this one person doesn't believe in emulating. Sure, it's bait-y as fuck, but it's still a legitimate debate.
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Do people think it gives them additional smugness when they attach a reaction image (or heck even a completely irrelevant image) to every argument they make?
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>>3103729
THAT'S IT CAPS ON, PANTS OFF LET'S DO THIS!!!!

do you take this shit seriously? Does your pillow?
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>>3103737
>do you take this shit seriously?

I found the problem.

>>>/b/
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>>3097384
Control your autism you retarded faggot.
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>>3096724
I'm a hoarder and collector, I've beaten:
NES:
Ninja Gaiden 3
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 3
Megaman
Megaman 2
Megaman 3
Little Samson
Dragon Warrior 3
Castlevania 3

SNES:
Act raiser
Aero fighters
Castlevania 4
Castlevania Dracula X
Chrono Trigger
Donkey Kong Country
Donkey Kong Country 2
Donkey Kong Country 3
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
Megaman 7
Megaman X
Megaman X2
Megaman X3
Super Ghouls N Ghosts
Super Mario World
Super Mario RPG
Super Metroid


When will the "collectors don't play their Gaems" meme ever end? you're just buttmad you didn't get the games for cheap back in the early 2000s.
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>>3103736
well this is an image board...
what else are we supposed to do?
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>>3104034
Dude you have barely beaten games.

If you can list all the games you have beaten you simply have not played enough games. I have beaten hundreds if not thousands of games during my lifetime while you have been hoarding your room with boxes.
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>>3104034
>has not even beaten 100 games

Thanks for proving the meme right.
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>>3101097
>If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway. b-but muh Genesis/TG-16/sonytrash

I remember when trolling meant something.
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>>3101097
>If it's not on a Nintendo system than it doesn't matter anyway.
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>>3104043
>I have beaten hundreds if not thousands of games
>thousands

If you combine all of the licensed NES and SNES games, including all languages, you come up to 1,400. Your memory may be a little broken.
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>>3104045
>>3104043
I only mentioned on NES and SNES, I have beaten hundreds of games outside of those.
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>>3104043
List every NES and SNES game you've beaten from start to finish. NO emulators, No easy difficulty bullshit, just picking up the game and getting to the end screen.
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>118 replies

learn to sage and report you dumbasses
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>>3104363
>No emulators
Do emulated games not count as games anymore?
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>>3097384
>hating on zsnes filters

Eat shit nigger 25% scanlines with interpolation is god tier.
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>>3104040
Not be a smug faggot about vidya?
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>>3104459

No, they only count if you pay 200 bucks for the cartridge and another 50 for the box (sold seperately). You might think you've "beaten" a game by emulating it, but you haven't really. Sure, you might have memorised the levels, honed your skills and pushed through to the end of the game. But the REAL challenge is in being willing to spend large chunks of your disposable income on 20+ year old games, paying mutliple times what hey were worth when they were released and getting all of the packaging intact too (this part is super important). Anyone can beat a game. It takes a true retro veteran like myself to squander inordinate amounts of cash on ancient plastic cartridges that aren't worth a fraction of what they're being sold for on ebay. Get a real job, you fucking kids. Maybe one day you'll be able to TRULY beat your favourite NES games, just like I did!
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>>3103485
It's not that everybody can't afford these weeb games, but rather that they are likely to be terrible investments.

Many people see no virtue in owning some hunk of plastic in the Information Age.

If you want to collect valuable objects as an investment, vidya is not what you collect. Coins, stamps, guns, artwork, cars, retro-computers. Not vidya.
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>>3104638
You're right collecting vidya is a totally different thing in the sphere of collecting. Peoples' motivations to collect those other things are completely different. Retro games are guaranteed to fade into obscurity where they will be forgotten and replaced by contemporary games which are objectively better than their progenitors.
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Arcade games probably benefit most from emulation. The time, money and space required to find and collect actual machines is way too much for many people.
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>>3104638
>retro-computers
>not hunks of plastic
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>>3103485
>KoF2k
It's on dreamcast, ps2, steam and shitloads of collections.
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>>3104686

This. The merits of console emulation can be debated, but MAME is essential software for any serious gamer IMO.
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I still don't know if that is a girl or a guy in OPs picture
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>>3096591
>he doesn't emulate old computer games on his free as in freedom Linux system

Fuck off with your shit bait, OP.
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>>3104459
They aren't 100% the same, so they may as well be another game entirely. Also, Speedruns only count if they're played on original hardware, via the original cartridges/discs, do you not think there's a reason for that?
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>>3104787
This.

Also, Wine Is Not an Emulator.
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look my collection
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>contributing to the retro price bubble.
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>>3096597
this, no one cares how rich you are
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>>3105597
Is Goof Troop only good for co-op?
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>>3096724
Yeah, this pisses me off to no end. I have a friend with wall to wall shelves of retro games that he never plays. He'll go to a movie rental place that's closing down and buy EVERY game with one swipe of his credit card.

I'll discover an old game and tell him to come by and play it with me, and he'll never fucking come by. To this day, no one has EVER played Streets of Rage 2 with me, partially because of this motherfucker (I know, I'm late to the party, but I want to fucking play that game with somebody). I'll get Duck Tales: Remastered on Steam and tell him to play it in my shared library, and he'll say he can only possibly play it on a Wii because the original Duck Tales was released on a Nintendo console. And guess what, he won't play the original one, either, because he can't be bothered to take it off his shelf and play the goddamn thing.

He'll give the old, "Now that I'm an adult I'm soooo busy, I don't have time to play retro games, now watch me put 5,000 hours into Skyrim (or whatever)" deal whenever you start asking him about individual games.
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>>3108220
what an absolute faggot. I have never met someone this retarded. Why do you even bother with him? He's the kind of guy who collects LEGO, but refuses to remove any from the box, yet never plans to do anything with the collection like show it off or sell it, so he only refuses to remove them because "muh value".
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>>3097435
I never knew I wanted this
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>>3103672
Jeez, did he hit too close to home ?
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>>3097384
>I just don't fucking care.

It shows.
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You're right, OP. Hacked console + burned games is the true master race.
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>>3096591
>.gif doesn't play on April Fool's format
Oh I'm laffin. I'd hate to see how /f/ or /gif/ is doing
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i was reading some old forum thread about someone finding a bio force ape proto (turned out to be a hoax) in 2005 and it was crazy to see how many people absolutely hated emulation and rom dumping. someone wanted to buy the proto from op and dump it, but was shot down by people who said theyd rather op just posted screenshots because they didnt want the cart to decrease in value even though it meant no one else could ever play the game. crazy times.
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>>3096591
hey anon please be kind to give me a million dollars so i could buy all games i want to play before i die okay thanks bye, also check your high class privileges :^)
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>>3108581
Retrogaming Roundtable, right? That's what originated the DUR BUTTER/EAT COMMUNISM meme. Funny to think that a few years later the game would actually be dumped, the mystery would die, and BRA would become just another ROM floating around on the internet.
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>>3108591
Fuck, BFA/Bio Force Ape.
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>>3108591
yeah. i mean lost games are cool but im glad it was found and dumped to bring closure to the mystery. its not that good tho, i played it for a little bit
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>>3096591
I like to preserve my console and games and i love emulator and i love settings them
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>>3097384
Retro identity politics is one of the most perplexing things in this board
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Am I really the only one

Judging from this thread alone it seems like a it's a polarizing issue.
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>>3108581
People are fucking thick sometimes. They're so deep inside their subculture they don't realize how ridiculous they sound.
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I only care about games, not hardware. Sold all my stuff long ago and like the convenience and possibilities of emulation
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>>3096724
>Most collectors are just hoarders and only play a fraction of the games they buy.

I don't get this argument. Am I supposed to play four games on four different TV's at once everyday? I've owned my games for 25 years, I've played them all at some point. Is this criticism used against people who collect records or listen to music? People who emulate only play a fraction of the games they've DL'd too by that logic. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>3105339
Most emulators for 4th gen and prior are cycle-perfect, they are literally identical to original hardware
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>>3104070
>NES and SNES are the only consoles in existence
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I own real hardware, carts, as well as flash carts but also emulate and I can tell you that emulation can be trash or it can be pretty much as good as the real deal, it all depends on the particular emulator, controller, and display you're using. Emulating on a CRT can be fantastic, for certain systems like NES, there is virtually no difference compared to original hardware (I've tried both one right after the other ) After all, flash carts are best way to enjoy games, you get access to pretty much an entire library, and play it on the real deal. Unless you care about owning pieces of plastic with prices inflated by OCD collectors, re-sellers, hipsters, or people who don't know that emulation or flash carts even exist.
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>>3110141
Not the original hardware= not the real game. End of story. Come back and let me know when Guinness validates a world record speedrun via emulator, then we'll talk again.
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>>3110683
If only you realized how dumb you sound. That's like saying because you didn't watch a movie on film through a projector that you haven't watched the "real" movie
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>>3110710
Video games and movies are two entirely separate things, that's a completely unfair comparison.
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>>3110719
No they aren't. Both can be copied digitally and shared online like anything else.
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>>3108581
>they didnt want the cart to decrease in value

Either they were hoarding the game themselves and were afraid their precious game would be worthless or they are straight up retarded idiots.
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>>3096724

I like this post. I REALLY like this post. It pissed off so many nerds, in all the funny ways.

I mean come the fuck on guys, getting mad because someone didn't pay 80 bucks to play a game on the original console when even the original programmers don't give a shit anymore? This is why you guys have your own article at yourscenesucks. This is why people write blogs laughing at you.
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>>3096724
>tfw decided to work through my backlog in its entirety

100 games in just under 2 years. I have a long way to go, considering I'm pushing 700 at this point. Granted, some of them like the Megaman's I can pretty much fire through the entire series in a day or two.
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So much people parroting that shit of "emulated games are inferior because differences", but no one is able to provide any specifics other than "feels wrong" or "input lag". I played all the games I own physically in both the real hardware and emulators, never noticed any of that. The fabled input lag is so small that you have to be intentionally looking for it to find it, the games look and sound exactly the same, at least in 8-16bit systems. So, anyone gonna prove why emulators are oh so bad? The only comparisons I've seen were clearly rigged with "wrong" results my computer can't reproduce with any modern emulator I tried.

I live in what amounts to a cliff near the sea, which isn't great for electronics, so most stuff has to remain boxed. And the last thing I want to do when I come home and want to play a game is spending 10 minutes wiring shit to a TV. Meanwhile, to emulate I just double click a file, and it's running even better than my crappy PAL originals. No slow-ass music or running at the speed of growing grass anymore. No butchered translations of the already butchered English translations either. I might get rid of it all whenever I move to another apartment, I have the ROMs so I am not really going to miss them.

This rings true specially for someone born in a shitty euro country where games were slowed down, had higher prices and shit, when they were released at all. Sure, we got Terranigma and Alien Soldier, but who cares if they have moronic translations or run at the speed of a snail? Emulation fixes that. It was also the only way to see stuff like Mario RPG, Earthbound or Chrono Trigger back when importing was not a thing a kid could do easily. I was lucky to have a friend that somehow managed to get those cool games and allowed me to borrow them, but for every other enthusiast, emulation was the only way and I can't help but sympathize with that.
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>>3104638
>retro computers
>in the information age
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>>3110959
You can't develop muscle memory for a movie. what you just said is like saying cats and dogs are the same; "well they both have fur and are kept as pets, so they're the exact same thing". Get real, emulating and playing a real copy on original hardware just isn't the same thing, which is why I would categorize beating one or the other as two separate achievements.
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>>3112457
Yeah keep repeating that and maybe it'll become true one day. So, what's the big difference, champ? Got anything you want us to buy?
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>>3113015
I have some rare copies of Super Mario World for sale, 40 bucks a cartridge. Best deal in town ,Goyim.
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>>3112457
>You can't develop muscle memory for a movie.

Muscle memory doesn't exist
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>>3113974
Okay we all know you're retarded, no need to be a flaming faggot about it.
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>>3096724
So, am I to get rid of my childhood games to avoid 'collector' status? Some of them haven't been replayed for about 5 years.... is that somehow 'problematic'?
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>>3113974
Literally anybody who plays a competitive game will disagree with you.

Starcraft pros hardly think for half the match. They just do.
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>>3114503
Also anyone who's ever practiced a sport or almost anything physical.
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>>3114502
Did you not even bother reading his whole post?

> I wouldn't even give a shit if so many of them weren't such fucking elitists.

No one cares so long as you don't act like an elitist asshole.
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>>3096591
>people that spend any money whatsoever on chilldren's playthings
>people that spend top dollar on (used) children's playthings
>people that buy games in-box and never play them
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>>3096591
That is one ugly bitch, OP.
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>>3113974

Tell that to the military
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>>3096591

>Go to local game store
>Earthbound
>$500
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>>3115681

Wanna buy mine for $450?
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>>3115681
>Go to local game store
>SMB1 & Duck Hunt
>$20.99
>Shit stained Sega Genesis model 2
>$80.99
>PS1 with no controllers or cables
>$69.69
>mfw no one buys anything
>mfw they still never lower their prices
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>>3096591
people who cant grow up and play on something that isnt the original REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>3114780
>>3114503
>>3114495

Muscles don't have memory. Its really called "motor control"

"Muscle memory has been used synonymously with motor learning, which is a form of procedural memory that involves consolidating a specific motor task into memory through repetition."
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>>3116003
Yes muscles do have memory... It's analogous to ram in a computer, with the brain being the "hard disk".
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>>3116003
Are you genuinely too stupid to know what the word "synonymously" means?
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>tfw you emulate because you lost all of your retro vidya things in a house fire

>tfw too poor to actually get any significant part of it back
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>>3116028
Are you a dense fucking faggot? I didn't mean the actual term
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>>3101105
>>3101097
>>3097384
You don't get the point about emulation, do you?
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>>3096726
This. I both have a collection of older games and emulate stuff I don't care to collect, but fuck I hate replacing batteries. I've done it but it always turns into a pain in the ass for one reason or another.
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>>3116049
So... Is that a yes, then?

You're so fucking retarded you even prove yourself wrong. Christ, you're a failure.
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>>3116091
Holy shit you are fucking stupid. Keep getting your facts off reddit and thinking you're smug and hot shit tho, you millennial cock sucker
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>>3111130
>#Bloglife
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>people who emulate
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>>3096591
My ROMs will be working 10000 years from now. Git rekt, m8.
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>>3116279
>people who like ugly man-faced weeb women
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>>3096801
There is no input lag when using a keyboard in any of the emulators I use.
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>>3116308
Same here both with keyboard and with a PS3 pad. Those people are full of shit.
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>>3116279
>caring
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>>3116380
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>>3116305
that word doesn't mean what you think it does
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>>3116279
i like what you did there
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>>3116279
I just got it. Ha.
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>>3108220
>I'll get Duck Tales: Remastered on Steam and tell him to play it in my shared library, and he'll say he can only possibly play it on a Wii because the original Duck Tales was released on a Nintendo console.
That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard this week.
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>>3097384
Is this copypasta?
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>>3115681
I remember when Earthbound was $50 at Gamestop.
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>>3096743
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>>3116681
>>3116669

Thank you.
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>>3104604

>Playstation section
>So many Greatest Hits releases

Look at this man.
Look at this man and laugh :^)
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>>3117716
I don't get it : /
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>>3108691
Yeah, sad thing.

>>3116778
It is now.
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I just don't understand, if you care so much about you hobby, why don't you buy an xrgb mini, get your 2600, colecovision and intellivision modded, then play your games that way?

Honestly, it's much better than emulation will EVER get you. The only people deep in emulation, I feel, are young people that never experienced owning or playing any of the consoles when they were around, so they couldn't give a shit about accuracy and nostalgia.

But these type of people, I feel, are disrespectful and detrimental to the medium. It doesn't feel like they car when they emulate. Everything is free for them, everything is whimsically at their fingertips, and they end up barely touching the stuff that's available to them. They don't nearly seem as invested, and if they don't intend on dishing hundreds of dollars on physical original items they've EMULATED, then they just simply don't care enough to begin with, so they might as well abandon the hobby.
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I've been playing emulated games on windows since 1998 (with friends) but got my fist computer until 2003. Being a Mexipoor, it was the only way to play Chrono Trigger and Super Metroid, back in the days nobody had those games. And let's not talk about sega (I owned a snes and a genesis) literally nobody had or liked sega back then, just a couple of weirdos, cartridges were scarse because of poor distribution, we only managed to play a handful of titles acquired via flea markets. Nowadays, Snes is still quite popular in my city and normies are paying lots of cash for cartridges and "restored" (re-printed stickers and boxes). I can't believe a snes cart is worth more than an xbox or playstation disc. Dat overrated conker game on the N64 too.
But enought bullshit, I still emulate on pc or psp. My crazy ex girlfriend stole my super nintendo with at least a dozen decent games...

A few days ago, I discovered Z X Spectrum emulation and oh boy, I've been having so much fun. See? I didn't have to invest money to buy an 80's computer and ancient stuff.

I have a friend who was into hoarding old games and consoles a few years ago, and he only played fucking xbox, good thing he sold almost everything, it's better than carts getting dust.

I'd kill for an original Neo Geo cabinet tho.
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>>3119541
So you are only allowed to play video games if you are hardcore "gamer" hobbyist? What a load of shit.
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>>3119541
Post-purchase rationalization.

I still have my old hardware and would rather emulate the games I still have hard copies of. I hope this is bait.

The only system I still bother with hard copies is n64,and only due to how much of a mess the emulation for it is.
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>>3119917
This is me exactly except replace N64 with Saturn.
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>>3119920
I never tried emulating the saturn. How bad is it?
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>>3119541

>I'm so autistic I can't comprehend people being even slightly less autistic than me: the post
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>>3101097
>>Emulation is important to gaming heritage.
>No it isn't
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>>3119932
I've never tried either, I've just heard it's really bad so the Saturn is one of the systems I've kept around.
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>>3096724
Meh. I collect games but don't hoard. I have an interest in the technology more than anything so emulation would be pretty pointless. Eventually I plan on selling my SNES as most of the games I have I have played and a lot of the "iconic" games are overpriced. I plan on only having a few consoles/computers and only a limited amount of games.

Hoarders seem to pretty much hold onto games for 5 years or so and then sell them at exorbitant prices to discourage anyone wanting them.
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>>3116034
I'd say you honestly have a reason. I've always enjoyed my SNES. I'd be very heartbroken if it was destroyed.
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>>3096683
>being too much of a moron to be able to replace a battery
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Sorry but you can build a bar top hyperspin machine for under $1500 and have it play everything from Atari 2600 to Nintendo Wii. It will also take up less room than 100 PS2 games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCz3sEhh9Q&nohtml5=False
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>>3120037
I still think Wii emulation is too high for these kinds of projects. Set the bar at dreamcast and it would cost a few hundred bucks less. What 5th/6th gen games would you want to play with arcade controls anyway?
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>>3119917
>I still have my old hardware and would rather emulate the games I still have hard copies of.

but do you have an xrgb mini or pms crystalio 2? i've compared between emulation and playing on these machines. they both feel far better than emulation ever could. they look better as well. or do you even have a bvm or hd crt the way the games were intended to be played? even those two options trump everything as it stands.
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>emulatorfags

Enjoying your shitty input lag and stupid filters that simply try to recreate the look of a CRT?

Now excuse me while I play some flawless lag free gameplay of one of my favourite platformers on ORIGINAL hardware and a godlike CRT. Stay mad and jello, emulator kiddos.
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>>3120201
Nice sunken cost fallacy and post purchase rationalization. Are your audio connectors gold plated to protect from viruses?
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>>3120348
>confirmed for not knowing what he's talking about
Last time I experienced an input lag in an emulator was back in 2003 when I played Megaman Zero with VBA on a shittoaster.

Also very few emufags go full retard over "muh scanlines".

You may enjoy your games smeared up with vaseline, but I like them crisp and clear, thank you.
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>>3120348
lookin' good, my man.

it is true. emulatorfags are the fucking worst piece of shit that taint this hobby and the pure art of the creators. Off yourselves, emulatorfags.
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>>3096591
I just don't have the fucking space.
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>>3120348
Going to need to see a back view of that Roll.
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>>3120348
Your games will rot, your consoles will fail. There's nothing you can do to change this. Hope you enjoy selling your collection for a fraction of what you bought them for due to the deterioration.

At least sellers on eBay are making a profit, right? They're striking while the iron is hot - tricking suckers like you into paying ridiculous amounts of money for physical copies of games you could have downloaded for free.

>input lag
Nice meme. You still in the early 2000s, by chance?

>>3120454
You seem the type to enjoy the smell of your own farts. Fucking weirdo.
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>>3120550
>everyone is underage and had to buy all of their games within the past 5 years at terribly inflated prices
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>>3120550
>>input lag
>Nice meme. You still in the early 2000s, by chance?

boy, you are a dumb kid.
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>>3120550
dumb, dumb fucking kid.
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>>3120550
dumb, dumb, DUMB fucking kid
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>>3119830
>So you are only allowed to play video games if you are hardcore "gamer" hobbyist? What a load of shit.
Sorry, pal. Video games have always been expensive premium items. From arcades to prices of colevision, nes, master system, snes, genesis. game cartridges were more expensive than current video games are today, and there wasn't nearly as much saturation.
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>>3108220
I'm like that guy. I mean, I have a relatively small collection all things considered, but I never play what I have because I'm too busy shitposting on this fucking site.
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>>3096591
>people who limit their libraries to common and unwanted games
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>>3096591
>people who pay $300 to play a game they had when they were 7
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>>3120595

>Video games have always been expensive premium items.

Yep, but now you can play aforementioned arcade, colevision, nes, master system, snes and genesis games for absolutely free on your computer. Or your phone. Or various modded consoles. Or even on a flash cart.
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>>3119917
this is me as well. Emulation is just more convenient and I don't like putting wear and tear on the games I have IF I can avoid it.

I will still play the games when I feel like it but if I have a choice of computer or digging out my old system, I'll go computer every chance I get.
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>>3120847
well you're not experiencing the games and their systems/ecosystems the way they were INTENDED to be played. you're whimsically shitting on history and not giving a fuck. you sound like an entitled brat pretending it's YOUR right to play these relics. no, we had to work real hard to buy these games and play/beat them without cheats and superficial enhancements with the controllers they were MEANT to be played with and the tv's they were coded to be played on. You're a disrespectful, smug prick. The same with your kind. and I'm ashamed to share the same hobby as you things. You're hardly human if you can't understand the difference between emulation and actually playing the games. You can't emulate emotions or emulate hardware/software to be 1:1 accurate. It's not the same.
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I don't emulate because my wife's son recently bought me a retron 5 so now I can play all the games I owned as a kid on my HD TV.
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>>3120573
>>3120578
>>3120582

I'm not sure what to make of these pictures you just posted. I mean, the first one is just some guy talking about a CRT he bought and giving his opinion on it. The weird thing is the part where he mentions that a PC engine and a PC engine emulator look mostly exactly the same, which goes against your own point. The second one is an opinion poll from another website which, once again, doesn't actually prove anything at all. The third one is an apparent slight input lag issue on ONE core of ONE emulator. What are you trying to prove with this? Do you think people believe emulation is always 100% perfect all the time (and let's face it, the it is accurate most of the time in most cases)? Are you also unaware that progress marches onwards and emulation will only get more and more accurate as time goes on?

I'm not the guy you were replying to, but I am honestly in awe with your complete ineptitude at addressing his points and even attempting to prove him wrong. Like, you posted all of these pictures, and only one of them had anything to do with what you were talking about, and even then it was still somewhat removed from the point at hand and didn't prove anything at all. Did you think just calling someone a 'kid' over and over would magically make you win this little internet argument? You should probably know that, 9 times out of 10, the guy going around forcefully asserting his maturity by labelling others as 'kids' is usually wrong about whatever he's saying, because he's usually the exact opposite of mature (why else would he be so desperate to assert it?).

I don't really know what else to say here. You are just amazing, my friend. Go see a shrink and get some medication, your thoughts are all over the fucking place.
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>>3120868

How am I shitting on history by emulating games? If I went out of my way to hoard all of the retro games ever made and destroyed them in a fire, that would be shitting on history. Emulation isn't shitting on history. Emulation is emulating history (and probably a lot better than you'd like to admit, which is only gonna get better in the future too). I'm not harming your experience by emulating games. And I'm not entitled to them. But if I can play them for free, I will. Especially when the alternative is getting ripped off by resellers who are charging so much for these old games specifically because nostalgiafags like you are willing to pay so much for them.

>play/beat them without cheats

You are aware you can cheat on the original hardware too right? You are aware that emulations isn't cheating unless you choose to use cheats/save states, right?

>You're a disrespectful, smug prick

And yet I'm not the one saying that people who don't emulate are 'barely human'. In fact, I didn't disrespect you at all. I stated a fact. And I disagreed with you. If you think that's disrespectful, pull your head out of your ass. That may be easier said than done at this stage though.
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>>3120898
>in the future emulation will be 1:1 accurate

and what about now? why are people using emulation now when they could just use a crt, scart cables, and their old consoles? You basically did a lot of dismissing of his points, but didn't give anything to back up your argument? They still can't get Genesis sound right. Not to mention the wrong aspect ratios for master system. And to thik there are people pretending like they're connoisseurs when the majority of their experienced library is emulators and only emulators. What about dreamcast emulation? That's still fucked. You can't even play Shenmue without missing half the textures and shadows, but you could just buy a dreamcast for 80 dollars and get toro vga box instead.
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>>3120935
>Not to mention the wrong aspect ratios for master system
what? I kek'd. you can literally choose any aspect ratio you want.
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>>3120947
he probably never emulated, thus those ridiculous claims. besides he is a sega fanboy, so it's a lost cause.
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>>3120935

>and what about now?

Depends on what you want to emulate. Generally speaking, the older the console is, the more accurate the emulators will be. I've never had a problem with NES emulation for example. And I've very rarely had issues with SNES emulation. Dreamcast is another thing altogether. I agree, the way things are right now, you've got to buy a Dreamcast instead of emulating. The things is though, you're saying I was dismissing his points. The truth his, he had no coherent points. The person he was replying to never said emulation was perfect, that claim was never made, so it was a strawman. A really, really incoherent strawman. Just like you saying that people are pretending to be connoisseurs. That's a strawman, and it also proves nothing.

>why are people using emulation now when they could just use a crt, scart cables, and their old consoles?

Many, many reasons. If you don't have the consoles already, you have to buy them. Same with the CRT. And even if you do, who says you're going to have a large library of games to choose from? You have to buy them, and that's certainly not cheap these days as we all know. The point is that you can't just assume that everyone is going to have all of this stuff already, and that's why they emulate. You have to understand that it's a calculated trade off. Emulation may not be 100% perfect, but the majority of the time, games will run perfectly on emulators and the only real differences will be extremely minute things like the colours look very slightly different on an emulator. So are you gonna spend all that money, time and effort recreating the pefectly accurate retro experience? Or you gonna spend a few minutes downloading an emulator and some games, plug your pad in and get right to playing straight away? And say, you're playing Super Mario Bros, it's the same thing. We're playing the exact same game. The only differences are very small and very superficial.
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>>3120953
this site has been up since 2003. you should have a master system, nes, turbo grafx 16, snes, dreamcast by now

as for price, that's just it. Not every game in the world costs $1,000. You oughtta be willing to pay $80 for Super Mario World because guess what? That's STILL less than what I paid adjusted for inflation. If you're not willing to spend your own paycheck, then it's obvious you don't care enough, and it's obvious you shouldn't be playing these games. This is what I mean when I say "entitlement and brattiness." I had a paper route when I bought Super Wario World and was still going to school. Why don't you have enough money to buy it?
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>>3120984
omg look at this autistic pedophile
>you shouldn't be playing these games.
lmao get alife you troglodyte
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>>3120454
Wow you care way too much about what other people do. Off yourself you fucking scumbag
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>>3120984
So you created those games and have a right to tell people what to do with them?

And let me guess, I bet you have tons of pirated software/music/videos or other shit on your computer as we speak. Don't be a hypocrite.
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