VROOOOOOMMMM VRROOOOOOOOOMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb6P3AJbWLI
What old ass racing games do you like?
I love me some Rally 2000, the old Colin Mcrae Games, Gran Turismo etc.
This is the only racing game I like.
need for speed porsche.
>>2972250
BAR is one of my favorite racing games on N64.
Many of the available kart racing games like Mario Kart, CTR, and DKR are also good.
Gran Turismo 2 is fucking gold.
F-Zero games are also among some of my favorites.
Wave Race 64 is a classic.
I'm probably forgetting a bunch but those are the ones I can recall at the moment.
I just saw brand new footage of GRIP earlier and I'm impressed that it looks extremely close to Rollcage Stage II, except it looks like Unreal Engine 4. Also finished putting the Rollcage Stage II DJ mix on my iPod.
A mini golf course near me used to have the 3-screen cabinet of pic related. Just recently I bought a Dreamcast and am playing it again, great game.
Sega Rally ftw
I love the Road Rash series.I also hate racing games that use mode 7 to make a flat track so it is like you are driving on a piece of paper with an inked in track.
Star wars racer
Carmageddon!
>>2972250
Big Red Racing
Hi Octane
Screamer
Rage Racer
RR4
Wipeout / XL / 3
Rollcage / Stage II
Dethkarz
F-Zero X isn't just my favorite "retro racer", its arguably my favorite game, so that obviously gets the nod.
Recently I've been playing Sega's Power Drift. I love the 2d-3d effect and the music and graphics are great. Its really fun even though the 5th tracks are often infuriating. Also lapping opponents on the final stretch is actually a huge hazard and equally infuriating when you lose position because you hit someone you lapped. I like how the action and music are continuous so you can just chill with no interruption in the gameplay.
>>2972250
I loved playing cruisin USA at the arcades like 15-20 years ago.
P.O.D
http://www.gog.com/game/pod_gold
>>2972338
PS2 port has wheel support which will make it close to the arcade. Though theres also emulating the arcade version with demul if your computer is up to it.
>>2972250
The Top Gear games for SNES are still funz especially the second game. Customisation for the win.
>>2972272
Yeah man. I love X too. But not GX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_p4BYHajAs
>Ctrl-F
>No Extreme G (or XG2)
Come on guys.
>>2976035
I had that. I liked it at the time (even my PS-owning mate preferred it to Wipeout) but it's aged badly. The frame rate was terrible too.
Its completely non-conventional and not a car racer but I played the hell out of Uniracers for SNES as a kid.
>>2976014
Out of nowhere, that McClaren F1 slowly passing through autumn leaves
>>2976014
>that guitar intro before the engine revving at the beginning of the game
NFS2 is one of my least favourite in the series but that intro is awesomeAlso GT90 is my carfu
>>2976014
>>2976321
>lightning
>mysterious symphonic intro
>jungle breakbeat intensifies
>good video production
>cops and sirens
>transformation montage
>more lightning and sirens
>cool logo reveal
>Romulus 3, Pi or Minotaur starts playing
I liked Hot Pursuit better, EA cranked their shit up to 11 on every level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTd4jAXt0kc
>>2972338
My fav Sega racer after OutRun 2. I love how a game that looks like a simple arcade racer can be such a demanding sim. Plus the AI racers are the best I've ever seen.
stupid ass police
>>2972250
Not as good as the Lotus / Top Gear series but pretty solid, had portraits for each character you could bet and race with, some car upgrades etc.
Also I running from the cops was fun.
Need For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit
Rad Racer on the NES as well.
>>2976383
What game, anon? That's a solid endorsement.
>>2972313
To bad the last game of the series is so overlooked.
>>2976989
Love this one, but I played the DOS version of Crazy Cars 3 instead (same game, just with no 2player mode).
Not sure what the amiga version is worth but that screenshot looks close to the DOS one. There is a SNES version too but it's quite different and worse on some aspects imo.
>>2977652
That's Ferrari F355 Challenge.
DC version surely looks very nice, but the arcade version is really charming. Pic related doesn't show it, but there isn't many Racing games that offer both clutch pedal+H-shaped gear stick and paddle shift. Oh, and a very smooth framerate on three monitors too.
>>2977803
>Oh, and a very smooth framerate on three monitors too
No big deal on the arcade. Probably distinct hardware driving each.
I could never play with these big black lines between the screens, so multi screen setups don't wow me at all.
>>2977803
Ok, how's dreamcast emulation nowadays?
Is there any native windows port?
>>2977809
nullDC? Anything I tried with it worked fine. Didn't try much with it though
>>2977808
>>No big deal on the arcade. Probably distinct hardware driving each.
You bet it. The arcade kit is a monster with one Naomi board for every monitor linked by a fourth one.
I used to dislike the borders between screens, but the game does a good job on bezel compensation, you start to take them into consideration and concentrate solely on the screens after a while, pretty much like the blind spots on real cars.
>>2977840
any idea how well the DC version survived the porting? Is the limited screen space an issue? Are the physics or models altered?
>>2977849
I'll be frank with you. I've only played the Dreamcast version with a proper steering wheel just once. The game itself holds really well, feels pretty much like the arcade linked version (which lacks the three-monitor setup and the H gear shift). But the lack of a proper force feedback and the steering wheel itself not being sturdy enough do hurt the experience.
Rush 2 is amazing and was the best game in the genre until I played Burnout Paradise (it's still #2).
>>2977974
Play the PS2 port which has actual wheel support instead.
>>2978041
I have no actual wheel, or ps2 emulator, so that'd make the choice easy. That said though, that people recommend wheels so strongly suggests it's not gonna fly on a gamepad, so I'm probably better off passing it altogether
>>2978041
PS2 port is shit, though.
>>2978151
Have fun playing a game made for a wheel with a crappy controller.
>>2977803
Once i got into road racing i wanted to experience what it was like for real so when i saw how realistic F355 was as a GT simulator I was hooked. Truly Sega racing's magnum opus. Was AM2 behind this game? I want to own one someday.
>>2978692
>Was AM2 behind this game? I want to own one someday.
Yup, Yu Suzuki himself offered data from his own F355 to help recreating the driving experience to the game.
Some people may find its visuals a bit on the boring side. Sure, the game isn't as flashy or colorful as say, Daytona 2 or Scud Race, but the steering in this game is simply incredible, it's on its own league. If only it had a tilting seat to simulate a bit of the G-Force, it'd be perfect.
If you want to own one of these deluxe cabinets, be aware that the paper rolls/print used for the Time Trial/Telemetry mode isn't available anymore. If you happen to find a used cabinet with the printer still working/paper roll, consider yourself lucky. It was a curious addition to an already luxurious product, but not really needed anyway.
>>2978895
You get a receipt for your best lap times? That's fucking hilarious and genius. I don't know much about the state of arcades but I thought plugging in your own USB controller and player cards holding player data and customization were already pretty cool.
>>2978895
I want one with a VMU slot. None of the units I've seen in the wild had it, sadly.
/vr/ I need your help:
I played old racing game similar to OutRun, only that you had different things that crossed the road and you had to wait for them to pass.
I remember there was a map where cows crossed the road and there was Eiffel tower in the background, and there was one map where you drove at night and martians crossed the road.
Any idea what the name of the game could be?
>>2978946
Your description kind of fits in Cruis'n World.
Except you don't wait those things crossing the road, you can outright run over cows. Is this your game?
>>2978940
>Macromedia Flash 3
Jesus, I swear I didn't remember that. Is this even in the game or is it some kind of bonus content inside the GD-ROM to be accessed through your PC?
>>2978940
None of those DC wheels have force feedback.
This fucking game. Shit is brutal.
>>2972274
Mah nigga.
>>2980408
DD had one of the coolest league modes I've ever seen. Perfect fit for the genre
>>2980408
Found this some time ago and the original links seem to be ded now
https://mega.nz/#!QEF02S4C!hDC4skSzYPnKbkD15xeYBqiWQr7Z5FjVCzcZw6KFVKk
DD and DD2 preconfigured with dosbox for windows and leenox.
>>2981047
Too bad the race point system in DD2 was a mess and they removed the arena only league.
>>2978007
>Burnout Paradise
Not retro but holy shit did this game cement my hate for Guns and Roses.
This shouldn't even be a thread everyone already know the best racing game is F-zero GX
>>2981095
good thing nobody asked for the best. Your arrogance has been noted though.
>>2981107
I can't be arrogant I didn't create that masterpiece
Even a perfectly decent racing thread just had to be derailed with Gamecube shit.
Here's my jam
![playstation-47308-31346778392[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mserx0f.jpg "playstation-47308-31346778392[1].jpg")
>>2980408
>>2981047
>>2981061
No love for DD RAW?
The track designs on that were glorious.
Hard to believe the same developer (Studio 33) fucked up so badly with Arenas. Completely ruined it.
>>2981262
no idea, I only played DD and DD2. What's noteworthy about raw?
>>2981267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUe2CCxw8Zc
>>2972250
Nothing beats the sounds of the exhaust in this and the raving techno music is very well done. Dynamic, with a Vast enviroment, it's my favorite driving game. You will never beat Expert rally all gold.
>>2981302
that doesn't really answer the question
MOTO RACER 2 FAGGOTS
RACE ALL DAY WATCH SISTER ACT AT NIGHT FUCK YEAH
>DUN DUN DUN DUN
>CHECKPOINT!
>NNNNNEW RECORD!
![CMR2 2016-02-08 22-22-44-88.avi_snapshot_05.55_[2016.02.08_22.30.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/txybNoR.jpg "CMR2 2016-02-08 22-22-44-88.avi_snapshot_05.55_[2016.02.08_22.30.34].jpg")
>>2981315
>You will never beat Expert rally all gold.
speak for yourself, friend
>>2981315
cmr 2.0 is so fucking good
>>2978467
>analog triggers for gas and brake
>crappy
>>2981354
Moto Racer 2 on PS1 was a lot of fun but it runs at 20 fps or something and it plays like ASS.
Orange and purple bike master race.
I prefer the PC version
>>2974554
>F-Zero X isn't just my favorite "retro racer", its arguably my favorite game, so that obviously gets the nod.
It's always been my favourite racing game. Even before it existed. When it came out I just felt this was the racing game I was born to play. This was the experience I was looking for, tantalisingly hinted in its predecessor - now fully realised.
I remember being 11, playing it in a demo pod in Boots (of all places). I already had a SNES and I heard of this game. Thought it looked cool on that poster you got with the SNES. When I played it, I really liked it. There was nothing quite like it for the time.
Then I got it for my 12th birthday and it was my pride and joy for a long time. The sequel came out a few years later on the N64 and it really seemed to have nailed the experience.
The GC version - really seemed to drop the ball. I'd have been happy with the F Zero X engine given a makeover with new tracks. Something about it didn't feel right though. It felt diluted.
>>2982278
Definitely agree with you regarding GX. If you want to play GX for sick times then mechanically the game turns a whole lot more "digital" than X, IMO. Finding a good line and executing it with perfect control over nuanced physics is what I like; GX has that but it becomes too muddled with all the extraneous shit you have to perfect.
>>2972767
LoL
>>2972250
I didn't even like IndyCar (or whatever it's called today), but I loved Cart Precision Racing.
>>2984815
Indycar Racing 1 and 2 are the way to go
>>2977803
>but there isn't many Racing games that offer both clutch pedal+H-shaped gear stick and paddle shift. Oh, and a very smooth framerate on three monitors too.
The only one I could think of that has that is one of the Battle Gear Games, but the one I really know doesn't count as Retro. Game's pretty fucking good though. And it's a bit of a shame the F355 Challenge cabs we had here didn't have the clutch/h-shifters (they only had the 2-player regular on with probably sequential shifters but had buttons to turn off the driving assists).
>>2980408
I could never win a DD game, only doing shenanigans in race mode/time trials. But holy fuck it's brutal indeed. The soundtrack fits very well too. Thanks for the link, anon!
What's a good WipEout-like for PC? I have an itch for thumpin beats and antigrav racing
preferably one with some style
>>2985587
Right now, the only one I can remember is Extreme G 2.
>>2985624
i found an HTML 5 knockoff, but i mean, it's just one track, one car, no sound, and its a browser game
http://hexgl.bkcore.com/
fuck, where are the slick future racer designs of yesteryear?
>>2981550
using an overpowered car
>>2985923
won it fair and square
Whiplash / Fatal Racing
Best racing game ever
>>2985940
your car is in a faster category, you won nothing
>>2985953
futuristic arcade is all i want, really
>>2985974
Rollcage (flip cars), Xtreme G (motorbikes), Killer Loop (magnetic tripods), Dethkarz (cars), have at it.
>>2985981
Rollcage and Xtreme G have been posted already, so I'll skip those.
Killer Loop is interesting, because the magnet feature and gravity play a big role. You can stick your craft to the track at the press of a button, but it requires some energy. The tracks have all kinds of possible and impossible twists. As a pilot you got to learn when to use, and especially when not to use your magnet. You want it on when you're doing a "downwards" turn (think outside of a loop), or you simply fly off the track, you want it on when you go straight up, or upside down. You do not want the magnet when you're going down a track, because gravity accelerates you faster than your engine. To add a literal twist to it, one of the tracks is on a space station. Gravity won't be "down", it'll point away from the center of the station (centripedal force). When playing that game you really develop an odd sixth sense for where "up" is, how the track twists in space. Quite fun. On top of all that, the rumbling of the huge steel bearings of your pod on the metal track sounds damn cool, and the game is nicely fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99x0KBS2Duc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTMbcU957vM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmDVd_xo5-w
Dethkarz is a bit so-so. The game's nothing exceptional or noteworthy, but it also does very little wrong. You got a nice tiered car system, good weaponry, entertaining tracks. It ain't wipEout, but it surely ain't shit either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuDR5439WXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJBhvzoZ9rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0OBwpU_id8
>>2985981
>>2986046
thanks anons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWm0U_20F0I
>>2972250
Mobil 1 rally was awesome. Graphics were great for the time, almost photorealistic, they did a great job in conveying the look of the english countryside.
Handling model was ok, not hard to master even then, not the most complex, but decent enough.
Where this game was and still is a few notches above the other is how it made you feel that it wasn't just you against other drivers, but you against the nature too.
Pushing too hard on a stage and finding yourself with too much things to repair for the time that was allotted, finding yourself on a night stage with faulty lights or even worse broken was a great experience.
You were constantly going easy, trying not to fuck up the car even more and push towards the next Service station, you were forced to thought out what you were going to fix and god, was it satisfying to pull off a win with a half-broken car.
>>2980353
I think flash was used to do the UI
>>2985969
>same power as starter cars
>only a bit lighter than starter cars
pick me a new car then
>>2986219
pick any of the cars the ai use, than you can say you won
>>2986248
>>2986251
piss easy so far
>>2972272
Hell yeah this and GT II get a lot of play time for me.
>>2972250
That looks really good for a 1999 game. With a shitload of post-processing, it could pass for a late PS2 game.
>>2972250
colin mcrae rally 2 (ps1) is soo fucking comfy but i really suck at it, and that ruins it for me (any tips).
does anybody know a comfy racing game?
Gran Turismo 2, tons of licensed cars, good physics and music. and the best part the little info articles on all the cars and racing conversions for so many. bring rc back polyphony!
>>2986436
To be fair, the ghosting type zoom blur inNeed For Speed Undergroundwas done well enough to look smooth and to enhance the mood.
>>2981331
Sorry for the late-as-fuck reply (okay, you might not even be here but what the hell) but these are the main differences between RAW and the first two games:
>significantly higher number of tracks
>different car models available
>handling now feels heavier as if you're actually controlling the car
>new methods of point scoring and destroying opponents
>new arena environments including the skyscraper mode
>new modes like smash for cash, assault, pass da bomb
Played the fuck outta this game.
>>2986403
good lad.
I remember cm1 being harder on expert when using the standard cars though.
>>2986774
yeah
last time I tried, I missed first place by a single point
>>2985587
All I know for PC is early access/beta stuff like Formula Fusion and maybe Slipstream GX (which I also got from the Retro Wipeout thread over here at /vr/ a week ago).
Or maybe you can emulate.
>>2986046
I got Killer Loop in a bundle with my modded PS1 years ago. I thought it was all right (but no Wipeout). Nicely fast, indeed. But something about the cars/tripods looking like noses made me laugh a bit.
The music was nice too.
>>2985587
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?32-Ballistic-NG
https://github.com/bigsnake09/BallisticNG/releases/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1zTtHJzn5Q&t=1m54s
>>2987091
holy shit, this is exactly what i was looking for
>>2973104
Loved this game when i was young. Whats the title?
>>2988780
>>2981550
Well, if I wouldn't restart any rally, because that was the way I used to do it. But when it came to UK and Kenya night stage I just couldn't somehow play with a calm mind. Ford Racing Puma was awesome, but I always had to use a default car. I loved Subaru Impreza and even though I don't have drivers licence and don't have a thing for cars, Impreza is a bit special to me ever since
>>2986835
Never played 1. How does it compare to 2.0? Are the tracks as good? Hows the handling?
>>2988852
it's like 2.0 with a bit less content, and maybe slightly more difficult, at least Expert mode
stages are quite good but short (2-4 minutes)
it looks like 2.0 with a bit lower resolution and polycount
it sounds almost the same
it handles very similarly, maybe a bit less grippy than 2.0
doesn't have an "arcade" mode like 2.0 where you do laps with a pack of cars, but it has a rally school feature instead
I'd be surprised if anyone's played this.
>>2977808
>I could never play with these big black lines between the screens, so multi screen setups don't wow me at all
You cannot be serious... Real cars in real life have them. They're called A-pillars.
![12full[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lahbJSi.jpg "12full[1].jpg")
>>2975213
>wheel support
You don't actually think that wheel controllers are unique to the ps2, do you?
![DC_TOKYO_XTREME_RACER_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jqo7DHQ.jpg "DC_TOKYO_XTREME_RACER_2[1].jpg")
>>2988975
A-pillars are not exactly vertical, and tend to not be equally distant from the driver seat, on a two seater. And I can move my head to see past them
>>2988981
Not him but if the game is compatible with the DFGT it'd a better experience than using DC wheel
>>2989215
you actually were serious
facepalm.jpg
>>2986595
oh shit i beat this last month. i had it for 10 years and never paid attention. popped it in and played all of it good stuff
>>2986595
Literally the first PS1 game I ever owned. Always played on the lowest difficulty because Evil fucked my shit up every time.
>>2986595
All I remember was the stylish pre-race camera angle and the stylishly zoomed in speedometer, although I have no idea how you play manual with that.
>>2989728
That's what ears are for, kid.
>>2989731
Surely you can't min max the optimum point of shifting using just the sound.
>Its an old racing game thread
holy crap /vr/ has gud taste
>>2988917
Man it look really the same. The camera is the same after the race and I love those shots. I don't think many people carred for Arcade mode, the Rally is where it's at. I wonder how well I'm gonna do... You got me into download a ROM now... so might as well start up my Subaru again (I hope there is in 1.0 at the start)
>>2989798
It reminds me in CMR 2.0 you could do that FPS mode and we always did with brother to make it harder. The appeal and effect it had on me as a kid in 2001 was unbelievable. Racing games are one of the highest quality games you can get and even in shitty ones you will still have so much fun
>tfw your toaster can't run DOSBox at the 100k cycles needed for 30fps with ultramax graphics
>>2991790
GP series is awesome. You can fuck your whole race for so many reasons, I really like this kind of tension.
Is racing the genre that benifits the more from 3D?
Even back then, 2D felt off.
>>2989341
DC wheels are terrible. Deal.
>>2992114
what do you mean by "the genre"?
There are a lot of genres that outright require 3D visuals, while others actually require 2D visuals. And then there's a whole load of genres that fall in between. There's no "benefitting".
>>2988990
i love that whole series.
my faves are
rc pro am
excitebike
built to win
rc pro-am/II
final lap twin
hard drivin'
chase hq's
outrun/ners
lambo american challenge
f-zero
r.p.m racing
rock 'n roll racing
top gear 2 and 3000
off road II the baja
test drive II the duel
uniracers
road rash 2/3
demolition derby
ridge racer revolution
gran turismo 2
nfs high stakes
nfs porsche unleashed
wipeout xl
extreme g
crusin world
beetle adventure racing
top gear rally 2
test drive off road 3
test drive 6
road rash 3d
sega rally
daytona usa
tokyo xtreme racer 2
jet moto3
moto racer 2
eliminator boat duel
wave race 64
skitchin'
diddy kong racing
mario kart 64
hang on
micro machines
enduro racer
probably forgetting a few but had fun with these
>>2992143
He probably means "benefits the most".
>>2992239
and it makes no sense, still. top down racers do not benefit from 3D visuals, or very little (death rally, gta). Their genre relies on being two dimensionsal. 3rd person or 1st person racing games used 3D visuals since day one (pole position, may not be the first, but certainly well known and early), even if they did not use polygons for that. Different genres have different visuals, and there is no benefitting in either direction
>>2992198
Yup, you forgot Crash Team Racing and Colin McRae Rally
>>2988936
Mah nigga
>>2986436
Yeh the textures are fantastic in the shot.
A good texture a good sample is more important than the resolution.
>>2981061
Thanks for the link lad
racing lagoon translation when
>>2992443
also accuracy > raw polycount
Does Richard Burns Rally still hold up?
>>2989798
is that some rally trophy
>>2992114
Some games are good in 2D, some are pretty forgettable. The same happens with 3D titles though. Super Monaco GP on arcade is an awesome game which probably would be generic shit if it was made in 3D, specially really early 3D games which suffers with non-analog input support and choppy framerate.Football games are the ones that worked better in 3D IMO, which doesn't mean there weren't titles in this genre that aren't incredible like Super Sidekicks series, ISS, J-League Final Stage and probably eurobros will fondly remember of Sensible Soccer series.
>>2993087
Yeah, there are lots of mods ranging from new vehicles, tracks or even different psychics. Vanilla game still good tho, but hard as balls
>>2978007
some of my fondest gaming memories are with my buddies and i playing the stunt track in rush 2 over and over again
>>2993347
Yep, nice guess despite my poor webm making abilities
but can you do the same with this one
>>2981315
this is probably my all time most played game desu
>>2980408
>DD2
My fucking nigga. That game was my jam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhx3iwu1Vog
This game showed what the DC could do. It was also a legitimately good game, certainly the best game that has "Test Drive" in its title.
>>2994215
Colin McRae 3?
EVERYBODY'S SUPER SONIC RAAACIIIING
>>2981061
Gave these a shot recently. Works pretty fucking good. Thanks anon!
>>2996037
04.
>>2981262
Didn't Raw have terrible handling?
does anyone knows this one. has the same developers as rfactor. always wanted to drive the panoz and the mclaren but i couldnt figure shit out
>>2992114
Somehow it seems like 2D racers should be totally outclassed by newer 3D games in every way, but fun is fun.
Hey everybody download Canonball and lets make a custom track in the editor! We can have a theme, or just put swastikas and dicks everywhere!
>>3003782
I'm not sure what "couldn't figure shit out means"? Game runs fine here.
>>3003892
cannonball is a 3D racer. You got a vanishing point, objects becoming smaller with distance and a clearly horizontally facing camera. Polygons mean nothing.
>read epsxe 2.0 thread
>fucking around
>finally got xinput vibrations working
>found Colin McRae 2.0 downloaded, never played
>yeah why not, heard it was good
>640x480 mode
>okay, good old Codies
>DAT FUCKING MENU
>getting Wipeout 3 design vibes
>go to options
>extensive controller modes
>fully remappable buttons
>fuck yeah
>save-able driver stat tracking with initials input
>cool, cool
>DEM CAR CAD OUTLINES & LIVERY SWATCHES
>Italy, Greece and all that good stuff
>get ingame
>512x240 high resolution
>alright, sweet
>HOOD VIEW IN A PS1 RACING GAME
>check out pause menu options
>custom camera
>CUSTOMIZABLE CAMERAS
>can adjust height, tilt, turning sway, distance
>driving feels good
>vibration fully working
>replay looks good
FUCKING CODEMASTERS/10
>>3004886
or you could just play on PC natively
