What's so bad about living in a dream world anyways?
>>2882265
Some people can't enjoy anything if it's not the genuine stuff.
>>2882265
There's that whole issue of dying while you were too busy dreaming.
>>2882265
Because it you weren't lucky enough for Link to wake up there, the Nightmares would have taken over and turned it into nightmare world. Which is presumably a fate worse than death, otherwise Link is the bad guy.
Speaking as someone who's had nightmares repeatedly where they are dreaming, know they are dreaming (the people in my dream tell me as much, though sometimes a little "persuasion" is needed), and keep waking up to yet another dream, I can tell you it's horrifying. The human mind simply cannot cope on some primal level with the threat of fundamental reality not being a given. I've nearly lost it upon waking once or twice because it took me a few minutes to calm down and verify- yes, this is real...things are coherent and consistent now...calm down...
To be completely honest, this is one reason Link's Awakening resonated so strongly with me.
>>2882309
Link is the bad guy, in a way.
>>2882265
Well, it is called "Link's Awakening" after all.
ayyyy lmao
>>2882405
Holy shit that's a terrible character design.
>>2882265
When it pops like a bubble and harsh reality sets in.
>>2882407
ayyyy lmao
>>2882430
fuck you tetsuya nomura
>>2882320
Was it even the real Japanese title in the first place, or was it too completely changed for the western release, as per usual?
>>2882426
>only 3 days left
>>2882639
But didn't the island not exist until link dreamed it up? Or is this actually some shared dreaming shit? Are the people of koholint a bunch of people in comas or something?
It's escapism, can't you see? It's not healthy!
>>2882713
The dream is that of the Wind Fish. Link was pulled into the dream (maybe due to being within vicinity of where the Wind Fish sleeps) after his ship was destroyed and he was rendered unconscious, then Link's memories began to influence the dream environment and the characters who appeared therein. So at this point, it's a merging of both the Wind Fish's and Link's consciousnesses.
None of the characters in the dream are real, unless maybe their consciousnesses are real only in the sense that they co-exist in the Wind Fish's mind as independent sentients.
>>2882713
Shared dreaming between Link, the Windfish, and the Nightmare Dethl. But here's the thing: the Windfish is the being literally generating the world. He can't therefore be physically present within it, and so he is represented by his avatar the owl.
>>2882724
Everything in the dream world is a sentient spawned out of the subconscious of Link, the Windfish, and whatever the fuck Dethl _really_ is. They are the only three "real" beings, in that sense.
>>2882639
>The Legend of Zelda: Dream Island
Thank you. That clears that up then.
>I thought the monsters weren't hostile in general until Link stranded on the island and threatend their very existence.
No, they were already a nuisance. They simply got much more aggressive after Dethl realized Link was crashing his dreamworld he wanted to run amok in.
>>2882359
Keep in mind Link waking up ended the very existence of quite a few sentient beings. So yes, the case can be made.
>>2882639
>I thought the monsters weren't hostile in general until Link stranded on the island and threatend their very existence.
The final boss says:
"We were born of nightmares... To take over this world, we made the Wind Fish sleep endlessly! If the Wind Fish doesn't wake up, this island will never disappear! We would have been masters of this place... But you had to come here and disrupt our plans! Heh heh! You can never defeat us!!! Let's rumble!"
And there's no evidence for Link having any kind of reality warping powers. So probably the monsters only stepped up their plans because they knew Link was a threat, and they would have got round to it eventually even if he didn't show up.
links legs are really elbow macaroni.
Great game.
>>2882265
the balance of life, anon. the bad only exits for us to verify the good. the alternative being trapped in a fake bubble existence with no true experience or achievement. would you prefer sex with the one you love, or a robot hand jacking you off all day?how are you so sure this isn't a delusive reality within a dream already? your eyes covered by maya's veil, yet to truly be awoken?
>>2882827
You need to stop smoking so much goddamn weed.
>>2882312
There's an old Twilight Zone episode along this line where a guy has the same dream of being sent to the electric chair every night and keeps trying to influence the dream people. You should check out out. Viewing someone else's similar struggles can sometimes be therapeutic.
>>2882718
>It's escapism, can't you see? It's not healthy!
That line sounds really shitty out of context, but it's pretty much the best Marche could have come up with. I mean, Newt was already being a selfish cunt by keeping everyone there at others' expense, so an appeal on the "don't be a douche" front would have gone nowhere.
THE WIND FISH IN NAME ONLY,
FOR IT IS NEITHER.
>>2882265
Because if you do you'll die a virgin. Well I mean, you personally probably still will, but at least it won't be for that reason.
>>2882960
Well, Link could have maybe gotten Marin.
>>2882949
I played a little LA a few months ago, I saw this text.
It's not wind, it's not a fish.
I should stop smoking weed
>>2882320
whoa... dude...
>>2882804
It just occurred to me that this artist understood orange/blue contrast over a decade before the movie industry did.
>>2882827
don't worry about it man, it's just turtles all the way down
>>2883748
kek'd
This is the only game in the Zelda series I haven't played. I really should give it a shot.
Original or DX version?
>>2882827
Go away Descartes
This comic pretty much sums it up.
>>2884201
advantages of dx
>color
>additional 'dungeon' that makes use of this with the reward being a colored tunic that either raises atk or def
>picture moments that are kind of fun
disadvantages
>you have to read the messages for every piece of power/guardian acorn/wow this looks pretty heavy! without being able to cancel the message as it scrolls
>you can't 100% and no death run due to not being able to collect all pictures without dying
(thief event requires you die and be called thief for the remainder of the game)
I prefer the original because I don't see the real benefit in the extra dungeon for a very easy game that doesn't require it as the difficulty doesn't change. LA DX was my first Zelda but having the option to 'b' out of those messages is very beneficial because you'll see them at least a few times regardless of how much you avoid them.
I do however miss the pictures because they were fun.
Depends on the dream.
>>2882265
>asking this question on a board full of 40 year old men that have been living in Nintendoland their entire lives
>>2884681
>Isn't that what it means? Now I'm confused.
Whales aren't fish
>>2884681
That's exactly what it means. It's not "wind" and it's not a fish either, it's a fucking magic whale.
>>2884372
>(thief event requires you die and be called thief for the remainder of the game)
Not at all, if you just steal and don't go back into the shop you won't die. You'll be called THIEF by NPCs, but you are not required to die. Just steal right before entering the Wind Fish's Egg after buying everything you need so you don't have to go back into the shop.
>>2882265
i dont wanna be a dumb flying fish's dream lmao
>>2884890
Doesn't the shopkeeper lightning bolt you for stealing? It's been years.
>>2885106
he doesn't do it instantly, you have to re enter the shop for that to happen, but if you just name yourself THIEF in the first place there is no penalty
You still can't 100% anyway because you can't obtain both photos number 1 and number 2 in the same save file. You get photo 2 shown in pic related by repeatedly answering no to the photographer.
>>2885129
>but if you just name yourself THIEF
is that real?
I guess the DX version is overall the "definitive" version so people who never played it before should go with that for the extras.
But I personally like the original monochrome myself, the color version feels weird, maybe because that's now how I imagined how the game would look in color, and sometimes the colors make the tiles stand out too much.
And in a way, the monochrome look has a sort of "dreamy" or surreal feel which I think fits the game theme very well.
Someone should do a hack where the whole game is monochrome except for the opening cutscene and the ending sequence.
>>2885135
>by repeatedly answering no to the photographer the first time you get to the photo hut
Fixed
>>2885147
>But I personally like the original monochrome myself, the color version feels weird, maybe because that's now how I imagined how the game would look in color, and sometimes the colors make the tiles stand out too much.
>And in a way, the monochrome look has a sort of "dreamy" or surreal feel which I think fits the game theme very well.
Mostly this, but I also feel like the DX extras were mostly just tacked on. I mean, the dungeon was nice and all, but it felt kinda out of place, and the photographs didn't really add a lot.
Admittedly, a lot of my earliest gaming memories come from LA monochrome, so that might be the nostalgia goggles.
>>2885141
>is that real?
Was anything on the island real?
>>2885147
Link's Awakening is easy enough already without the game-breaking powerup from the Color Dungeon.
>>2882265
Same thing as living in the "real" world, really. Who knows if we aren't in some kind of dream right now?
>>2882312
Nuked what are you doing here
>>2882312
I have this recurring nightmare where some r9k faggot keeps blogging on /vr/
>>2882804
>Dear Lord, dem hips
>>2882974
If dream sex counts, I've gotten laid more times than Hugh Hefner.
Link is on a god damn plank in the middle of the ocean. If he didn't wake up, he was going to starve/drown/die of sickness.
Staying in the dream meant certain early death
>>2882265
Maybe living in a dream world wouldn't be so bad...
But would you ever be 100% sure that it's yours?
At least in reality, you know you're in full control of yourself.
Right?
>>2885872
>At least in reality, you know you're in full control of yourself.
That's what they want you to think. >:D
>>2885872
What makes you so god damn sure you're not dreaming right now, idiot?WAKE UP
>>2882724
yea the wish fish was pretty stoked you woke him up. He was sleeping, had nightmares, you woke him up but you blew away kohonlint(?) island. Just another day for the wind fish, traumatizing near-death experience for link
>>2885882
please wake up
>>2886102
Don't ask me, I'm just a kid!
>>2882639
>"known as The Legend of Zelda: Dream Island in Japan"
Fucking NoA ruining the ending with the localized title.
>>2884201
I grew up with the DX version on a GBC. (I say this so you know it's not just nostalgia speaking)
These days I prefer the DMG version. Both versions look good, but the DMG version is even more impressive since it manages to pull off said looking good with only 4 shades of green.
The sound is great on my OG gameboy, but the one thing I'm *not* nostalgic about is the awful sample-and-hold blur. I actually like it best played through Lameboy on my DS. I don't savescum but it is nice to be able to flip it shut for sleep mode when you need to attend to something urgent or just do quicksave/quickloads so you can play through the game in 5 minute poop-breaks without having to backtrack each time you turn it on.
If you choose the original LA, my opinion is that you should make sure to play or emulate on a system that has the proper green palette. Likewise, DX should be played on a color system. You can mix and match but it won't be *quite* as good of an experience (original version fake colorizes badly/miss out on some content in DX version).
>>2886175
I really like the old gameboy blur. Gives it more dreamlike visuals.
>>2885872
well considering how we're controlling link the whole time, I guess it never was his dream at all.
>>2882827
>how are you so sure this isn't a delusive reality within a dream already? your eyes covered by maya's veil, yet to truly be awoken?
I know it's real because dumb 15 year old stoner cunts like you keep saying retarded things that annoy me.
>>2886142
I get that you were joking, but I actually really like the english title, it's ambiguous because you don't know you're in a dream until you reach the ruins, I think.
The word "awakening" could also be taken as an enlightenment awakening and not in the literal sense. The japanese title spoils the fact that you're in a dream from the get go.
It isn't your dream, asshole.
The Zephyr Manatee wants to wake the fuck up. Its sick of hooting at its imaginary friends as an owl.
>>2886948
Are you memeing or just being stupid now?
>>2885534
How can mirror shields be real if our eyes aren't real?
What's so bad about letting Bowser take over a little vacation island, anyway?
>>2883743
Yeah, Terada Katsuya is a great artist.
>>2887259
>missing friend
>>2887259
Maybe he plans to demolish Yoshi's house and put up a hotel with crazy high room rates? Real estate can be a real bitch.
>>2882284
Every CRT and shill collector thread ever.
>>2886036
The fish is an asshole but has good taste in cute grills.
>>2888447
I think you're misusing "shill" here, buddy friend pal amigo
>>2887823
>koopa hotels
>>2885141
your name will still be changed to THIEF by everyone, but if it was THIEF in the first place, does it even matter?
>what if naming yourself THIEF caused the shopkeeper to kill you the very first time you walked into the shop
>>2886102
>not fantasizing about going back in time with you're current brain and reliving life with all the knowledge you've accumulated now
>every second of every waking moment
>if only
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/SPhNjPA.jpg "latest[1].png")
>>2882265
Your wifu never existed
>>2888718
I'd be curious to hear how he'd define it beyond "someone I don't like."
>>2889296
The artist is Terada Katsuya. They were printed in an old Nintendo Power, couldn't tell you what issue though.
>>2889378
>>2889296
https://www.flickr.com/photos/historyofhyrule/sets/72157634681811319/
This seems to be all his Zelda works.
>>2889053
only problem with that is I am still retarded but just older now.
>>2886175
It's too late for me, I'm so used to DX I see its colors even on a classic GB screen
>>2889053
I think about this every single day.
You would be fucking your imagination. its like masturbation without tbe locked door and fear of your parents walking in
>>2882265
Failing everyone in the real world who cares about you.
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