Post some 10/10 retro videogames.
I've never played a 10/10 video game.
Terranigma is an 8.5 though.
As close to perfect as any game I've ever played.
>>2867684
Sorry anon, it's missing 2 seven force forms due to time constraints
While I don't think it's great, I like Terranigma a great deal and I think it's the only game I've never seen anyone ever say anything bad about without also praising the game. As such, I believe it may very well be the most perfect game ever made, but it's not 10/10.
I quit Terranigma halfway through the ice world because it just felt like more of the same old grind. Find a new location, talk to a couple NPCs, buy the next location's wave of party items, kill a bunch of enemies, flip a few switches, fight a boss, Save The Planet(tm), find a new location, etc. Does the gameplay ever change?
>>2867729
>party items
There's no party. Are you sure you played Terranigma?
>>2867671
I tried playing it and I gave up because nothing interesting happened for too long. It's certainly no FF7, where you start right in the action.
>>2867685
She isn't called Seven Force, she's called the Seventh Force- as in, you have six force weapons and she's your 7th Force, the Force of Love.
>>2867729
it's literally just that, it gets worse as it goes on
>>2867731
Player items I mean, my bad. I just had the basic JRPG trope stuck in my head; e.g. the Secret of Mana games, every new town has a new shopkeeper with one new weapon for each specific party. I.e. not the slightest bit of customization, basically a level-up where leveling up only serves to make you at constant parity with linearly strengthening enemies.
>>2867671
>>2867738
Oh, I see what you mean. How would you have done it differently?
>>2867682
>I've never played a 10/10 video game.
Must be awful being so unhappy
>>2867671
Ark's a big guy.
>>2867671
why the hell has this game become so over rated in the last couple of years? It suddenly went from "eh, it's ok" to "OMG IT'S LIKE THE BESTEST GAME EVER", I don't get it.
>>2867747
Something being 10/10 is synonymous with it being perfect. Does perfection truly exist or is it just an unattainable ideal? I'd say the latter. Rating a game out of ten is a subjective thing. There's no truly objective way to quantify how good a game is. It's a matter of opinion. But for something to be perfect, it needs to be literally without any flaws whatsoever. I have to wonder if any of us can say that about our most beloved games. We can't even say that about our most beloved people in our lives. Perfection is saved for metaphysical characters like god. Have you ever played a game so good that you felt like it was made by an omniscient deity?
>>2867792
>Something being 10/10 is synonymous with it being perfect.
It's not. 10/10 it's simply the best score a game can get, of course subjectively. Perfection doesn't have anything to do with it.
>>2867796
you are literally retarded.
>>2867797
no u
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
>>2867792
>Perfection is saved for metaphysical characters like God
Must be awful being so unhappy
>>2867838
Things can be good without being perfect just like things can be bad without being the worst things ever made. But then again this seems to be a concept that 4chan as a whole struggles with. I never understood why everything is so black or white to you guys.
>>2867841
You sound like a cuck.
>>2867747
Just go back to reddit.
I don't think any games are literal 10/10s but we have opinions on what are 10/10s. I really think that HERO for the 2600 is my personal 10/10 game
Just started playing Terranigma after having it on my backlog for a long time
I think I must have asked once on /vr/ what the Dark Souls of the 16 -bit consoles was and someone said this and it makes sense because this is hard as fuck
The first boss (shadow mask or whatever the scorpion was called) alone is a real casual filter
It's annoying as fuck to play on a Nexus 6 (in SNES 9x) though
>>2867887
nice bait
>>2867842
>>2868053
Kys my man
>>2867729
>the ice world
Ice world? Wtf does that even mean?
I love Terranigma, I can always replay it, but it kinda falls from grace after humanity is resucitated, just after the infamous Queen boss fight. I can't remember anything notable after that. That Beruga villain plot wasn't as unique and interesting as resucitating continents, wandering through a barren Earth...
>>2867789
>Couple of years
Dude, there are web pages dedicated to Terranigma/Quintet series cult following since 2000.
Are you american by any chance?
>>2867671
Would be a 10/10 but those boss fights...
9/10 at best.
>>2867823
>any Metroid with Swords & Stats
>close to being 10/10
Because strolling through hallways and spamming Crissaegrim and Soul Steal is so riveting.
>>2867671
>>2867682
Terranigma is a 7/10 for me.
but is a awesome game anyway.
Super Bomberman 1 and UltimaIV are a 10/10 games for me.
Rate your favorite game:
Gameplay: X/10
Story/Immersion: X/10
Graphics and Sound: X/10
>>2868471
I just played through SotN for the first time last week and I never got either one of those items.
It was fairly challenging at a handful of points.
>rewarding difficulty
>platforming and realtime action interspersed with role-playing and adventure elements
>nice Greco-Roman atmosphere
>that soundtrack, particularly the new battle tracks for the overseas version
I never get tired of this game. My only complaint about this otherwise perfect game is that the Second Quest is essentially pointless. Would have been nice if Nintendo had rearranged the palace layouts, or maybe increased enemy stats.
Battle of Olympus was also nice, although it lacked Zelda II's RPG elements.
>>2868576
Soul Steal isn't an item, it's a spell you cast with SF-style input.
>>2867684
i can agree with this
>>2867887
Ghouls and Ghosts is a hard game. Terranigma is an easy as fuck game once you grind for a bit.
>>2868872
No shit an RPG is easy after you grind like an autistic fucktard.
>>2868486
>Ultima IV
What it did for games is 9/10, gameplay....7/10
Sorry, combat got so fucking tedious, and mixing spells individually is such a waste of time. V handled that much better.10/10 for World Building. Especially if you read all the supplemental material and keep pen and papers logs like you would in the 80s.
>>2867838
http://autism.about.com/od/childrenandautism/f/echolalia.htm
>>2869137
honestly don't care about Ultima IV's combat,
It doesn't affect the experience for me, and you fight less in Ultima IV that in a generic Jrpg so..
Ultima IV is not about the combat; Is about immerse yourself in a world, Britania,
becomes the avatar, how your actions affect the virtues.
Ultima V isn't about becomes the avatar, is about defeat a villain and the 8 virtues are replaced with a only a one "karma" meter.
good game Ultima V anyway.
I hate the new ff games but the ones on snes and such were pretty good
10/10
>>2869213
ps2 isn't retro friend
>>2869224
>ps2 isn't retro
Nice meme, kiddo
>>2869245
It isn't, also mgs2 came out in 2001, which also isn't retro
>>2869245
>this much denial
>>2869250
read the stickie nigger
>>2869261
>this much autism
>>2869249
Retro: 1970-2005
>>2868486
Super Bomberman games are great.
>>2867731
>Are you sure you played Terranigma?
Lose the attitude before you lose some teeth, buddy.
PS Yes I'm sure now.
>>2869275
It is.
>>2867790
Mario Bros is fun and short though.
>>2867794
>implying arcade games can be compared to JRPGs
>>2868150
The region with the ice/snow terrain and the snow wolves and shit. Should be obvious what I meant unless there is a second such world later in the game.
>>2867671
>>2867671
>>2869402
>not Slug 3
ya blew it
thread done
This one.
Also Unreal, SMW, Doom, Half Life, HOMM series, and System Shock
>>2867682
6.5 at best.
If your in to trpgs then bahamut lagoon is pretty badass
>>2867747
Even Chrono Trigger is one of the best and I'd say it's 8.5
>>2869192
It's a shame the world of brittania, looks, sounds,feels and plays like absolute shit.
>>2867671
I liked Terranigma very much. But it's not a 10/10 for me. Maybe 8.5 or a 9.
But Lemmings for the Genesis was a 10/10 for me personally.
>>2869284
Yes !
>>2869506
There are far FAR better games than Chrono Trigger out there. If you've never found one you actually think is a 10/10 for you I feel a little bad. It sounds like you don't actually like video games all that much.
not sure many would agree but this game is 10/10 for me
I hope 3 and 4 get translated some day
>>2869827
What game is that?
>>2869853
Mystery Dungeon Shiren the Wanderer. The best console roguelike ever made.
>>2869395
YOU'RE THE ONE FOR ME
THERE'S NO PLACE I RATHER BEBest game intro right here
>>2867740
Yes! The grappling timing is best in franchise.
Always time to play this. Even got me a Super Famicom. Tho I prefer the American controllers
>>2869312
>lose the attitude before you lose some teeth, buddy
I love this meme
>>2869926
then play the american version
>>2869994
>speedrunning
I always loved the game now I play it a little harder now. Japanese is faster.
>>2870047
but you're not a speedrunner
>>2870056
>being this pedantic
You know what he means.
>>2870047
Do you ever emulate? I sometimes play games at x1.25 or x1.5 speed for extra thrills. Space Harrier at double speed is a crazy experience.
>>2870063
No, I don't. What does he mean? Could you enlighten me?
Who gives a shit that the text scrolls by faster by an insignificant margin unless you're a real, top-tier hardcore speedrunner?
>>2870087
you're a speedrunner? really?
where can I watch your runs?
wait, you're not a speedrunner, my bad
>>2867671
None are 10/10, but a lot are 9-9.5/10:
The original Quake-trio
Doom 1 & 2
Mario 2 & 3
Stunts
Mario 64
Goldeneye 007
Perfect Dark
>>2870094
Don't be such an ignorant rude fuck just because we are on the anonymous 4chan board.
https://youtu.be/YYqlIMGwrMo
I'm still getting better but no one is better than me at 6-8 Bowser's Castle. Sub 5m level run please your time to beat is 4:54.100
Does Front Mission 3 count as retro?
>>2870098
Did you ever own a SNES? Or the GBA Port?
>>2869312
You're the best for that hahaha
>>2870126
Yep, ps1 counts.
>>2869506
>one of the best
CT is boring as fuck because the game is too easy and the time travel gimmick in the plot wears off fast since most of the time you'll be in medieval land so it's like playing any other stock JRPG.
>>2870094
"speedrunner" does not imply "public speedrunner", "famous speedrunner", "skillful speedrunner", or "record-setting speedrunner"
anybody who does speedruns of any sort under any circumstances is a speedrunner, just like how anybody who jogs is a jogger even if they don't enter any official marathons
which is to say, there's something wrong with your brain and you should do some jogging yourself probably so that at least you can be less flabby while you think your stupid thoughts
>>2869286
Nice b8! And this is coming from someone who actually has the original disc! First release even, the one with the elevator bug!
I bought my CMVS MAINLY to play this game and I regret nothing at all.
>>2871336
I like listening to the narrator yell
BONER BONER BONER BONER
>>2867792
I understand this point of view, and perhaps there's no agreeing whether the 10/10 rating should be reserved only for an unattainable level of perfection. However, an argument against that is that it messes up the rating scale. If you're going by gradients of 1, and assuming 0 is a score, then you have an 11-point scale where 5 is average, 6-10 (5 rating levels) is above average, and 0-4 (5 rating levels) is below average. Making 10/10 implicitly unavailable for mortal games means that all the best games simply receive 9/10s, and so you've lost whatever distinction there might've been between 9s and 10s. The balance is also now messed up, since now the scale is effectively 0-9, with an arithmetic mean of 4.5. I guess you could remove 0 to rebalance it (or reclassify 0 so that it's unattainably awful, like the converse of what you're doing with the 10), and so essentially the workable space is now 1-9 (a 9-point scale: loss of detail from the 11-point scale). But Ah!, 9 is the best rating now? But shouldn't we make 9 unattainable, and the greatest games should only receive 8s? And so the effective scale becomes 2-8.
You might try to use a half-point scale, so that the best games are 9.5, with 10 being unattainable. Here you have the same issue, though, as you lose any distinction you might've had between 9.5 and 10. Any games that would've been 9.5 on a 10-point scale would need to receive 9s now, to distinguish them from the better 9.5s.
If you're using a 101-point scale of {0%, 1%, 2%, ..., 100%} then I could see never using 100% since there's so much extra detail and ways to distinguish various 9s (now 90%, 91%, 92%, etc.), and that would be alright I suppose.
MULE for the NES just about does if for me.
>>2867684
it really is a great game
>>2869827
far better, sure.
far FAR better, some but not many.
CT was an all around solid game, it was certainly not perfect but it didn't have any particularly outstanding flaws to it, most games that beat CT in one aspect likely don't beat it in all.
Again, I won't say it's perfect or the best but I liked it better than a lot of RPGs
>>2869442
I like 1 and X over 3.
>>2874347
Nice try at plugging your shitty game.
If I wanna play Super Metroid, I'll play Super Metroid...
>>2868239
Is that a FRIDGE!???
>>2869395
shit i have to go play this now
>>2874414
gotta preserve the specimens bruh!
>>2870072
My nigga
>>2868239
Fresh / 10
>>2870072
Agreed. Memorization is not a criticism of this beautiful, quirky jazz solo of a game.
>>2867671
I miss '80s Sunsoft.
>>2867792
People who think 10/10 means objective perfection are retarded, why would anyone ever give anything a 10/10 in that case? Why would you reserve a score on your system for something that doesn't exist and never will?
>>2875002
10/10 doesn't mean perfect imo, it means the best.
>>2869926
It's literally the same controller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaX-b65GX_M
my personal favorites tnaf
Abuse
Command and Conquer 1
Descent 1
Freespace 1
Civilization 1
Masters of Magic
Master of Orion 1
and many more
>>2867671
> retro
> 10/10
does not compute
>>2867887
I took the bait here. Have been playing off and on for a couple days. It's easy as shit. I want to quit but am too far along to justify it. Fuck you.
>>2877232
The fact that the opposite of what you said is true in the vast majority of cases is indeed saddening
I'll fight you
>>2869391
>The region with the ice/snow terrain and the snow wolves and shit. Should be obvious what I meant unless there is a second such world later in the game.
It sounds like you're talking about the fucking prologue.
>>2867671
God-tier soundtrack, responsive controls, varied characters. One of the best beat'em-ups.
>>2867684
I completely agree.
Treasure had this magical kind of, core gameplay ethos when making it.
"Give the player all the tools to be completely untouchable"
"Then make it hard as balls"
>>2869207
>not FF III (the actual III, not VI)
>>2877279
Sor3 is much better though.
>>2875725
DBZ sound effects kinda kill the mood but otherwise 10/10
>>2877270
sequel when?
>>2880983
>>2869926
Why the fuck can't they be bothered to make a new, standalone Yoshi game for handhelds?
It's just a rehash of Yoshi's Island over and over and over and over... And over...
The music in the game is chilling. Especially the soundtrack for the first town.
>>2877220
Crystal Caves kicks ass!! Played that in daycare as a kid. Love that game, great platforming!
OP, if you think Terranigma (or indeed any of the Soulblazer Trilogy) is 10/10 your taste in games sucks dick hard. All three are poorly translated excuse-plot grindfests.
>>2871452
Congratulations, you just found out why fixed ratings are utterly useless for reviews. You can not ever use the highest or lowest value, because once you do, anything better or worse that may later show up gets the same rating, eliminating their difference.
That's why good reviews do not use a rating at all; and why good aggregators stick to a simple yes/no, instead of a scale.
An alternative to fixed ratings, if you insist on rating, would be a ranking, where you can say for any game "is better than" or "is worse than". A good way to establish such a ranking is the Elo rating system, where you only compare games directly against each other.
>>2877273
Eklemata, after you cross Indus.
If you're gonna stretch it, the prologue is the restoration of the continents, not more. Between that and Indus there's all of Santuario and Zue.
I got to agree that it was one of the weaker points of the story, where it got a bit grindy and stale. The game picked me up just fine a bit later though, and to this day it's the only SNES action RPG I actually played to the very end.
>>2877310
JOGABILITY
>>2881495
The Queen of Spain is the only place in this game where it gets a bit grindy, because she's for some reason way too strong for the level you reach her with. For everything else in the game, simple curiousity is enough to keep you scaling along nicely.
