What does /vr/ think of the Dragon Quest games?
I like them.
>>2812910
whats the joke
>>2812727
I love them deeply, having played I though IV. They really are the absolute classic JRPGs. The world and NPCs are great too.
>>2812910
>that plain-looking Psaro
I knew him being a Sephiroth look-a-like was a DS remake thing.
>>2813045
Funny how some might claim now that Sephiroth was a Saro rip-off when that's not much the case.
I got introduced not too long ago, having been raised on Final Fantasy. I think I prefer the series a bit more than FF. That said sometimes the humor feels slightly out of place, but I mostly blame cultural stuff for that.
Have played 1-5, and 9. Could never beat 2 though, got way too repetitive and while I enjoy free roam I would've liked SOME direction. 5 may be one of my favorite RPGs of all time though. Same with 9.
Last week or so someone posted this picture on twitter, that he took back he was a kid, of running into 7 metal babbles, because he wanted to prove to his friend that it actually happened.
I've been waiting for a DQ thread to pop up so I could post it. It's some great /vr/ porn, I think.
>>2813091
That's adorable. Any idea what year this might have been?
>>2813147
1988 according to the guy who took the picture.
>>2813045
>him being a Sephiroth look-a-like was a DS remake thing.
Nope
>>2812727
It's like going on a vacation. Very slow paced and pretty boring from a gameplay perspective, but very relaxing and long if that's what you're looking for.
I played through DQ1 a few weeks ago, first NES cart I've beat 100% legit. I had thought about going after DQ2 next, but I'd heard people say it was boring compared to 1 or 3.
>>2813405
Its way better then 1
>>2813424
It is? Even if it's more of the same from 1 I'd be alright with that, I'll give it a try once I've worked through my backlog.
>>2813431
Well for one there are three playable characters so your inventory isnt fucked to shit like last time
>>2813431
Not him, but every game in the series is better than 1. I think 2 is one of the best in the whole thing.
1 is a neat game, but it's very simple.
>>2813442
>2 is the best in the series
What?
>invisible mandatory items
>best anything
>>2813534
I only really like the first three games. Of them 2 was the most fun for me, despite it's flaws.
I think the new ones are dated piles of generic garbage that only get praised because of pedigree while any other game that has so much as random battles will get blasted
also fuck Akira Toriyama
I'm not a fan of the series. I think that the less a JRPG mimics DQ, the better it is likely to be.
That said, I did enjoy the first one. I don't consider it to be a particularly good game, but I had some fun with the exploration and resource management.
The best game in the series isnot retro
>>2813401
People throw the word "comfy" around a lot on this board. But the DQ8 games are actually, genuinely comfy for the most part. They have their intense moments, and players can certainly get mad/frustrated at certain bosses or other bullshit situations; but more often than not, they're just pleasant to play through.
Just played through the first eight games for the first time this year. SFC versions of I-III, PSX for IV, PS2 for V, DS for VI, 3DS for VII and VIII.
I rather enjoyed the games for the most part. I was honestly nothing special to me, but I imagine I'll enjoy it more now that I'm a fan of the series. II was alright and had some nice improvements, but it was damn cryptic at times. III is what really pulled me into the series, it was great fun all around.
IV was great. Looking forward to another playthrough with female Hero just because and so I can actually use party chat, I kept forgetting about it and didn't use it much. I mostly just remember Manya bitching about caves and Burai complaining about Alena being a hard-head. DQ V was great even though I prefer traditional set party members to catching monsters. DQ VI bored me to tears.
DQ VII was long as fuck but enjoyable. I really liked VII, it's easily one of my favorites.Glad to hear that the 3DS versions of it and VII are getting localized so more people can play them.
I've tried getting into IX a few times but I just can't do it, it just bores me for some reason. Being knocked back down to level 1 and exp being scaled doesn't curry any favor to me either. Not playing X because I don't want to pay the month fee on top of a VPN monthly fee and I'm not much interested in MMOs anyway. Looking forward to XI though.
>>2813054
>That said sometimes the humor feels slightly out of place
That's probably the localizations fault. I've never played any Dragon Quests in English but I've watched some videos on many of the games and it seems they often insert humor where there wasn't any before. The localizations in general are pretty awful from what I've see actually, at least the DS games.
>>2814502
>3DS for VII and VIII.
How? Is there a translation patch out there for them? I thought they weren't getting released til way later. . .
>>2814884
I can read 日本語.
>>2814891
Well fuuuuuck you too, buddy.
>>2813091
Like it matters. Every last one of them would run away before you could kill even a single one.
>>2814902
Not with a critical hit, those ignore defense. Pretty much the only way you're going to kill a liquid metal slime.
>>2814951
If you're anonymous, why did you correct your likes? Nobody will know the difference after this thread, you know.
How much grinding is required in DQIV for the nes?
>>2814132
It's barely retro, because its 7.
>>2814961
Because people are still having a conversation, and people can talk with each other despite the anonymous factor.
>>2814982
I just think it's kinda silly, isn't it? When is your personal like or dislike of VII vs VIII going to come into it?
>>2814993
It's simply a part of having a conversation. When you misspeak you can correct your mistake.
>>2814998
In a conversation, you correct your mistake so that people don't associate that opinion with you, personally. Had you never corrected it, nobody would have noticed, really.
>>2814961
Because I can't stand letting errors slide.
>>2814978
Honestly, 2001 should be retro by now. This board is what, two years old at least? But the cut off date is still 1999? The games after 1999 are getting older year by year, the cut off date should be adjusted every year too.
>>2815006
The guy you're talking to isn't me, but his points are valid. Just let it go.
>>2815014
>but his points are valid. Just let it go.
No they're not, he's anonymous, as evidenced by the fact I didn't know it was two of you speaking. I think this only makes my point stronger, really.
>>2815016
You have to have some serious autism to argue this much about a guy correcting himself on the internet.
>>2815014
To be fair, you can talk about the games after 1999 provided they are on a platform that was released prior to '99. The only real exception to this rule are platforms like PC and Arcades, in which the individual machine or game must be before 1999.
>>2815035
Not really. I mean, honestly, it takes more autism to correct yourself on the internet over a typo no one will care about on an anonymous message board. Why not just let the mistake go and only correct it if someone brings it up?
>>2815041
Assuming this thread lasts and someone cares enough to ask me why I like "VII" so much, I'd prefer that the correct information be there so I don't have to correct it later. Maybe you're the kind of guy who prefers dealing with things as they come. That's fine. I prefer dealing with issues before they exist.
>>2815039
Still a bit dumb, honestly, but I'm not going to bitch about it since 4chan stopped making sense a long time ago (and I don't come to this board very often anyway.
>>2815048
>That's fine. I prefer dealing with issues before they exist.
I guess I can accept that. I just feel its a little silly on here.
>>2813405
>had thought about going after DQ2 next, but I'd heard people say it was boring compared to 1 or 3.
It's okay/below average depending on who you ask, the game drags on for far too long and has the worst end game I've seen in a RPG. It's still worth a shot, but don't feel bad if you don't want to complete it, it's considered the worst DQ by many.
>>2815048
I want you to know, that I wanted it to be 7. I love 7 and I've noticed that many others seems to consider it somewhere in the middle. I was very excited to see someone else who likes it, and you let me down.
>>2815119
Sorry broski. Unfortunate as it is, things can not always be what we desire.
>>2815128
Well jokes on you, when the remake comes out I'm going to buy two copies of 7 and then leave the other lying around so I can pretend someone else likes it too.
So there.
>>2815134
Seriously though I liked it a lot better than I expected too. Long as it was, it didn't have too many parts where if felt like it was being stretched thin. It just felt like a very long adventure. The characters were nice tooExcept Kiefer. I liked him until he decided to abandon his friends, family, and the quest he began for some pussy he'd just met who was already engaged anyway. Fuck you, Kiefer..
Job system was kind of annoying though, at least in the 3DS version. A lot of the higher tier skills don't get carried over when you change jobs when will make you not want to change jobs sometimes.
>>2813437
you wot m8. DQ1 doesn't have much of an inventory system, you can carry every item in the game at once and your herbs just stack. You cannot run out of space, if that's what you're implying.
>>2815286
Is that right? I know you can run out of space in the SFC version despite the larger amount of inventory spaces.
>>2815293
The remake is a pretty different game in many ways. In the original there are no real inventory slots and weapons and armour do not go into your inventory.
>>2815314
I need to play the FC version of I eventually. Interested in the original versions of it and III for some reason (though the remakes sound like they're better in pretty much every way).
>>2815315
They've got lots of quality of life improvements but they've also been hit with the babby hammer in the difficulty department. A real man plays the originals with a bad connection to a broken TV.
>>2815320
I almost played them, but I went with the remakes because they had kanji. Glad I did too, I really enjoyed DQ III SFC, DQ IV PSX, and DQ V PS2 (and DQ VIII 3DS. Sounds like VII 3DS was a lot better than the PSX version as well).
>>2815320
The remakes were really made for people who want to nostalgia over them without having to put as much work into playing the games through again. I cringe every time I see them get recommended to people playing DQ for the first time. I'm not trying to be super elitist or anything, but you just aren't getting the true DQ experience if you can't find meaning in the frustration. You might as well just watch an LP video at that point.
7 was too long.
>>2815119
VII was awesome, though. I especially liked how they made the hero of legend that joins up with you look the way he does instead of some teutonic master race godling.
>>2815393
That's a horrible thing to say, really. I played DQ V on the SNES, and I played it on the DS, and the DS version blows it out of the water. I love retro games as much as the next guy, but why put someone through the grinder, when the same thing, only improved can be gained with the newer thing?
>>2815443
The "everybody gets a trophy" versions of the DQ games are not the same thing as the originals at all.
>>2815438
>DQ7
>hero of legend
Can you remind me again who the "hero of legend" is in that game? Someone other than the main character, right? It's been forever since I played it.
>>2815393
I remember playing the NES version of 3 and walking though the desert to reach the kingdom of Isis. It almost felt endless like I was crossing a fucking desert. The monsters over there where so much stronger, I was running low on resorces and night was about to fall. Just as about to start cursing the game I came across the oasis and rejoiced. Later I played the SFC remake and made it through the desert to Isis in like two minutes and felt nothing.
>>2815393
>but you just aren't getting the true DQ experience if you can't find meaning in the frustration
But what if that doesn't appeal to me at all?
>>2812727
I like the main characters better when they look like not-kid Goku/Gohan.
>>2815831
So you like the characters when they're drawn by someone other than the series' main artist and character designer?
>>2814951
I can't wait to see how much the new localizations butcher the script
>>2815839
My "not" was ironic, hence the hyphen. There's just something very charming about Toriyama's chubby 80's style, yet I keep seeing adult, modern versions of them even from Enix itself.
>>2815850
So far we know that Melvin has been changed to Mervyn.
>>2815850
I didn't bother with VIII, but the script in VII was painful to read. Almost anything would be an improvement.
>>2815939
What was wrong with it? From what little I've seen of the English version it was probably the most faithful English translation of DQ (though it seemed like they took more liberties later on). The script seemed sort of dry I suppose.
>>2812727
Too much muh nationalism and nanking lolocaust never happeningsed.
>>2815523
I understand your feelings, but did you ever consider that maybe the originals just simply had unintended mistakes in them that were fixed?
>>2813045
It's funny because since FF7 was released, japaneses usually joke that Sepiroth looks pretty much like a copypaste Psaro
They even call him Psaroth
>>2815393
>>The remakes were really made for people who want to nostalgia over them without having to put as much work into playing the games through again.
Do you have a source on that? Japanese is fine.
>>2815625
If I remember correctly the Hero of Legend is an old fart named Melvin.
>>2815625
What >>2818724 said. You go to find out this ancient here who was supposed to be the alpha badass of the day of yore, and everyone is hyped for it, since he's supposed to be the coolest thing ever. And then when you finally bring him back or ressurect him, or whatever the fuck you do with him, he's this Cohen the barbarian old fuck and the entire party (especially the female characters) are dumbfounded like "what the fuck" with who you get.
>>2813091
Speaking ofwat do
If I wanted to get into the series, what would be the best way to do so?
I find it hard to go back to NES RPGs, so I'm thinking of just skipping the first few.
>>2819643
>>2819627 here
I JUST started myself, and beat my first Dragon Quest game maybe 3 or 4 days ago
All of the NES games have been remade, and I can't vouch for all of them, but I can confirm that the first two at least are very playable and actually a lot of fun.
If you're a pirate fag, there's a Super Famicom version of Dragon Quest 1 & 2 (collection pack) that has had the grinding and bullshit toned down considerably, and an english patch to go with it.
If you wanna be legit-as-shitâ„¢, there's also the Game Boy Color versions of Dragon Warrior 1 & 2, not too hard to find, and they're basically ports of the Super Famicom remakes.
Either of those are your best bets.
>>2819627
shot web
>>2812727
I think that I have very, very fond memories of Dragon Warrior III and Dragon Warrior Monsters.
Which one is the shortest play through? Id emulate off mobile so I want the one with the shortest story.
>>2820229
DQ1, by far.
>>2820204
Enjoy this Thief as a token of your good taste.
>>2819643
>I find it hard to go back to NES RPGs, so I'm thinking of just skipping the first few.
If you find it hard to go back to NES RPGs then Dragon Quest probably isn't for you.
The formula has barely changed from the franchise's inception, simple mechanics, with simplistic stories so even if you decide to skip the NES games that's not going to change anything, hell even the PS2 game still feels like an NES RPG game at heart.
>>2820356
>Thieves
Literally the only reason why purists should give the DQ3 remakes a shot.
>Playing through IV right now
>It's fucking awesome
Why is Square ignoring this franchise for the most part in the US? They just now announced VII and VIII on 3DS, even though it's been out in Japan for a while. Why are they dumb? I also want X as well.
>>2821728
Because for whatever reason they think only Final Fantasy titles sell.
>>2819627
>wat do
do the code to rename the 2nd guy to a smaller name so your game won't crash at beran inn during an event later
>>2821737
Really? Man, that patch is full of game killing bugs. I remember beating the final boss only to be robbed of the ending because I talked to an NPC whose dialogue infinitly looped. To this day I've never finished DQ2 even though I have earned the ending. Well, of the easymode SNES version, at least.
>>2821728
>Why is Square ignoring this franchise for the most part in the US? They just now announced VII and VIII on 3DS, even though it's been out in Japan for a while.
How are you asking that question and then proving yourself wrong in the very next sentence?
Getting 7 and 8 on 3DS is something fans have been clamouring for since they were first announced for Japan, nobody actually expected them to localize it for English audiences.
We also just got Dragon Quest Heroes Longest Title Imaginable here as well.
How is that 'dumb?' Did you not want them to release them here?
>I also want X as well
Like they would set up a whole whack of new servers for an MMO over three years old.
Would've been better if they hired a different artist other that Toriyama. Every time I look at Dragon Quest, I think
>Dragonball
>Dragonball
>Dragonball
>>2812727
The Dragon Quest games are the reliable comfort food of RPGs. The battle system is always solid, the class system is always great, all the wheels turn pretty efficiently but there is very little experimentation, and though the world has personality the deliberate choice to keep story and characters reined in makes it feel bland eventually.
In comparison to Final Fantasy (the comparison is inevitable), I think it's more the series for people who love grinding and getting into the nitty gritty and battle mechanics and cheesing the system, while FF is more for people who are onboard with RPGs for the crazy stories and cool details and memorable characters and insane twists.
>>2821770
well the text infinite loop at beran inn is caused by the 2nd male party member having a long name. i'd like to know more about that endgame npc if possible. would be great if it was the same solution.
>>2821820
Probably was the same guy. It was too long ago for me to remember any real details, such as the location of the NPC, I'm afraid. All I know was that I was doing my 'victory lap' and revisiting places after beating the boss, as you do.
>>2821737
Is THAT the fucking glitch I ran into!?
FUCK me, that was annoying. I wound up spending like 20 minutes fucking around with renaming files, loading the Japanese rom, completing the quest with Japanese 102 level skills, and then repatching the file, and then after that I lost that "o" at the end of Rolando, but the game remembered his name was 7 characters, so there was always this awkward space right after his name.
>>2821770
AND THEN I RAN INTO THIS FUCKING GLITCH RIGHT HERE HOLY SHIT
>>2821820
>>2821838
The NPC at the end is in the Monolith in Rhone. It's the girl next to the portal. She says "Thank you for saving us descendants of Roto" and then kept repeating that forever. I had to look up the ending on youtube, because FUCK going through that last boss again.
Seriously, that patch is shit tier. I'm gonna look for a copy of DW1&2 for my GBA.
>>2821818
For me, the reason why I like DQ over FF so much is just the simplicity of it all. In DQ, the game is very straight forward with you the whole time. Here's a town, here's your gear, here's your quest, get to it. While I enjoy FF's stories more, gameplay wise, it's not very transparent to the player. Most of the secrets in FF I feel were written just to sell the strategy guide.
I mean, seriously
The Zodiac spear? How the FUCK would anyone have figured THAT out on their own?
>>2821784
I spotted the underage who never played Dragon Quest before 1995.
Elder God Tier:
Dragon Quest VII
High Tier:
Dragon Quest V
Mid Tier:
Dragon Quest III
Dragon Quest VI
Dragon Quest VIII
Low Tier:
Dragon Quest IV
Dragon Quest
Shit Tier:
Dragon Quest II
>>2812727
I only played the 1st one on GB, but I loved it. I like short RPGs
>>2824502
Bait Tier:
Your list
>>2824518
>I like short RPGs
The first Suikoden is also very short.
I bought DQ2 for the android last night for part of their black friday sale. Really liking it but I would have preferred to get 3, but I had to refund it due to the ObbStateCode: 21 glitch. Is there any work around for it? It seems like a much better game.
Dragon Warrior Monsters I and II are so based, replaying II right now with 3DS emu.
Breeding cool shit in this game is so much easier now, what with the internet being more of a thing.
>>2824956
Get the GBC version anyways, the GBC version has more stuff in it.
Playing through DQVDS remakeright now. Surprised by how feelsy the game is in the story department.
>>2825013
All I wanted was for the DQM1 remake to be localized. Don't get me wrong, I love the original with all my being, but I just wanted to see what they did with higher end hardware.
At least VII's coming west. I can settle for that.
>>2825013
Hell yeah. My definitive childhood game. Replayed it earlier this year emulated on my PSP. Gonna start a new file with the All Monsters hack just so I can get a Dimensaur.
Sucks it never took off in the West and was generally considered a Pokemon knockoff (which it is, but getting into technicalities, DQ5 started monster-raising and battling years prior to Pokemon).
Still crossing my fingers on the 3DS remakes getting localized.
Not really a retro question, but still, the question is for the thread. DVIII 3DS. Is it worth getting? I have a PS2, just not the time to play it at home as much as I would want to. Then again, I heard the 3ds version is pretty gutted when compared to the PS2 version. Is that true?
>>2826051
It may be gutted in some respects, but it does add new content. Personally, I'm going to get it to see how said new content stacks up. I still have the original as it stands, so it's no loss either way.
Go for it, if you're interested.
>>2819627
My prince and princess were also named Rolando and Linda. Are their names supposed to be random? I've never seen anyone calling Moonbrook "Linda".
Starting Dragon Quest VII. What am I in for?
>>2828367
Hope you have fast forward on your emulator
>>2821941
Not sure how it is in europe or anything, but north american localizations of DQ (i.e Dragon Warrior) were absolutely stripped of all Toriyama art. So it's not too unreasonable if someone discovered Dragonball before they saw the original artwork for Dragon Quest.
I'm playing III right now, what are some recommended job changes for a mage and a cleric? I have a fighter which I'm going to turn into a Sage aside from those two.
Also, will one job change make my party strong enough to beat Divinegon and get the best reawrd?
>>2828486
One job change could be enough. However that's dependent on level and stats. Every class change in III sets levels back down to 1 and halves a character's stats. So, if you're wanting a cleric/mage to go physical, learn all their spell lists first and let them accumulate some MP and INT so their spells stay useful. Also, if you're playing SFC/GBC, go Thief for your mage's class change. Speed, and actual MP growth being the reasons.
>>2828607
Thanks,levels shouldn't be a problem,because I'm a few hours away from facing Zoma, and my party is in the 40s, and stat gains are practically nothing at this point.
Then I guess I'll take your advice on the Mage-->Thief and turn the Cleric into a Warrior or Fighter.
What is everyone's opinion on the series from a technical/balance viewpoint? What I've noticed from playing a few at this point is that there seems to be almost no "game breaking" bugs/glitches/workarounds/cheats, or at least I never see discussions of such compared to other games, especially other rpgs.
>>2829027
The beauty of DQ for me is exactly that. I can't pick out any particular instance of dumb glitchiness or otherwise insurmountable bullshit. Sometimes allied AI is not terribly useful (Cristo in DWIV NES), but beyond that, everything can either be taken care of with strategy or copious preparation.
>>2829013
Turn the Cleric into a Fighter. It'll have the speed to cast healing spells before just about everything else, but it won't gain any more MP from levelling up. I imagine your Sage will be your primary healer, but having a Fighter as an emergency backup healer is amazing. Plus, the crit pretty often.
Warrior, on the other hand, would be too slow for a backup healer role, but would be a little more tanky than a fighter.
I'm playing my first DQ game right now.
DQV, SNES version, playing it on my PSP.
I'm using the byuu translation (It's shit but I'm too lazy to check out the other one). It's a fun game, I've just arrived at Port Selmi.
No real reason why I started with this, except I loved to listen to the OST on Murata's USTREAM vids.
Was that a stupid move on my part?
>>2829862
>Was that a stupid move on my part?
No. It's a good game. If you're liking it so far I see no reason why you won't continue to like it.
>>2829862
The only stupid move was playing the worst version of the game, with the worst translation, on the worst emulation platform.
>>2831028
>the worst version of the game,
Old = bad? There's nothing wrong with it. If anything it's a good thing his first experience with the game isn't a babby mode version.
>on the worst emulation platform.
SNES emulation is really accurate nowadays, what are you even\
>>2825778
Dragon Quest V has the most personal story of any JRPG in my opinion. A couple of WRPGs do it well, but man. I really feel like it's the Main Chars (Not Hero) story through and through. Theres no lack of motivation, and I genuinely feel for the characters in the game, which is an accomplishment for a game originally on the SFC.
[spoilers] I'm playing the DS remake too...
>>2831028
Worst version how? I couldn't care less about the improved graphics, the 4 characters party or the new waifu. The translation is bad though, I'll give you that.
And all I have is an old ass PSP, don't know why you consider it a bad emulation device, I have encountered 0 issues so far.
I don't really know why but DQ is the only JRPG series I can stand
ps1/ps2 jrpgs bore me to tears, but i enjoyed dq1, 3, 5 and 8 immensely
maybe it's because i don't have a million spare health potions i never use and battles are fast without bullshit animations, but i'm just guessing
Dragon Quest is the one series where the badness of the games outweighs the nostalgia factor for me. I can put up with a lot of shit when I'm playing old games and still tell myself I'm having fun but DQ is just mind-numbing.
>>2815443
grinding is the essential part of the DQ experience, cutting it out just makes it a bad version of modern jrpgs
>>2831454
It's pretty cool that the main character is not the "Legendary Hero", too.
I can't remember any other JRPG that does that.
>>2831896
FF7 kind of has that Zack was the original hero, and Cloud was just the unlikely receiver of the torch, but yeah it's hard to name them.
Dragon Quest V though is really unique in that literally the past couple of games was all about you being the hero and hyping it up. DQV hints that then subverts it in a really clever way.
>>2831896
>I can't remember any other JRPG that does that.
Rance explicitly has an in-universe system that designates a teenage boy as a hero and makes him near-invincible, and the more humanity is pushed to the bring, the stronger he becomes.
Rance is just a lucky guy who fucked the Level Goddess for an infinite level cap.
>Ctrl+F caravan hearts
>0
Criminally underrated
>>2834726
GBA isn't retro, you dumb sack of shit
4 and 8 are the best entries, prove me wrong.
>>2837302
Prove yourself right.
>quest
I quite like 5, 7, and 8. 7 is my favorite despite its slow pacing.
Even though it's not retro, I do greatly enjoy 8. However, 3 and DQM1 are easily my favorites of the series. Though, 6 and 7 come close, since I enjoyed their class mechanics and worlds a lot.
>>2837846
The Heartbeat DQ's are rubbish, everything about their design is crap from the bad pacing to the boring dungeons to the bloated job trees.
I'm playing through III (Remake) right now, i've got a fighter a jew and sage (formerly a jester) What should i turn my jew into? he hits hard as fuck.
his stats are:
Lvl 24, str, 83, agi 47, vit, 76, int 32, luck 24.
>>2839061
>not having a full party of jews
ya blew it sempai
>>2837302
V Is the best game. IV and VIII come right after though, in that order.
I'd also recommend them as baby's first DQ games though. Both are great starter games.
>>2839368
I've had to finally come to the conclusion this series just isn't for me. I enjoyed the first one well enough and 2 and 3 were alright, but have tried IV, V and VI repeatedly and can't get into them. IV and V might be a couple of the most boring games I've ever played.
Legit enjoyed IX though. Very weird.
Hands down best RPG series IMO. Wish I could play on PC...
>>2812727
I played throught the one where you're following in your father's footsteps (was it 4?), and VIII
Got half way through V before my save got lost
They're ok games, but nothing I need the feel to revisit
>>2840023
*feel the need, kek
>>2839368
5 > 3 > 4 > 8 > 6 > 7 > 1 > 2
Haven't played 9 yet. How does it fare?
>>2840084
It's rather great, actually. Very much like III with a job system and aesthetically customizable party members. And once you beat the main story there's an end-game with MMOesque sidequests as well as randomly generated dungeons which could theoretically keep you occupied indefinitely. Its one big flaw is you're restricted to one save file.
>>2840058
The new one? I have it, and speaking as a fan of both Dragon Quest and Dynasty Warriors it's a bad matchup.
Difficulty is basically either cakewalk or nigh-impossible, which is reminiscent of the first DQ but it really doesn't work in an action setting - it's fucking frustrating to take on a boss and pull out all the stops and use all your resources and use your entire team's musou attacks and the boss isn't even half-dead.
They also locked playable Psaro behind a fight that you'd need to be on NG+ to beat and of course he joins you more than a dozen levels lower than your guys. You also don't get to keep any of the unique gear you got from quests in NG+ aside from the shit weapons you bought and left behind half the game ago.
You also unlearn your techniques, so once you've gone through NG+ twice (get all those skill points, unlock everyone's abilities) then there's little point in ever doing NG+ again, so extremely diminishing returns. Also they will not give you enough skill points to get all your skills in a single playthrough, or even two.
>>2839061
>not doing ultra high luck jester into fighter and getting the Zen book to turn your Jew into a bulky sage
>>2812727
Great games, but I think DQ6 heralded the series becoming much more breakable in general and that it lost something thanks to that. With DQ6 in particular, there are a lot of combinations you can pull with its class system that the game doesn't feel like it's prepared to handle and the resource management aspect goes straight to hell because of the change in inventory systems and because it's very easy to get your melee dudes to learn a healing spell or two to put their otherwise useless MP to use topping the party off in case you don't feel like using the 99 Medical Herbs that are trivial to buy.
DQ3 sort of had the latter problem but its much stricter class and class change systems made it much harder to pull off.
>>2837032
>>2840313
Why would you use anything other than the Zero MP healing dance?
>>2840058
Fuck this guy >>2840109
game is fun as hell.
Dude just sounds bad.Wish a Loto trilogy hero was in it.
>>2840192
This is a good choice.
I've heard plenty of recommendations and have recently picked up the series.
I have played and beat 1, 4, and 5. Looking to start either 3 or 6. I've played 2, but can't get really into it.
The versions would be either GBC or DS respectively.
>>2843385
play 3 on snes first, it's shorter and arguably better
>>2843385
It's better if you play 3 after 1 and 2 (there's a major plot point involving both games), but since you can't get into 2...
>>2844472
I know that 2 is the furthest in the timeline, and 3 plays with both 1 and 2 in that it's the legendary hero whom they're all descended from, which is why I wish I COULD get into 2 but wondering around trying to get the seals is too aimless for me. I don't mind open ended, I've played the Ultimas to death, but DQ2 is just boring me...
That said I just started 3 from the suggestion, got a Jew, Thief, and Cleric. Solid party?
>>2845373
IV or VIII in my personal opinion. I is really basic, so while its nice to see the origins of JRPGs doesnt really represent the games as a whole. IV and VIII have some of the best characterizations and interesting story telling ideas. If you start with IV you can then move to V which is personally my favorite game. VIII is also the standard formula perfected with a modern look, if you care to move past /vr/ territory.
>>2840413
Nigga I ain't bad at it. I've beaten it four times. What exactly am I bad at here?
>>2827404
The names are slightly random. There's different sets of names that are determined by what you use as your name.
I remember the Cannock prince in the NES version was named Talint for me. The Princess was Elani
>>2845886
IV sounds nice but which version?
>>2845975
Might as well go for broke and get the DS remake.
>>2845886
As someone who only played and beat VIII and IX and absolutely loved both, do you suggest going IV and V as well?
>>2845373
V is best but it might be harder to go back to the earlier ones or the Heartbeat DQ's (which are a bit inferior to the Chunsoft ones). You should just beat them in chronological order imo.
>>2846030
Depends on if you would rather play a game more in line with either 8 or 9.
If you would really like to do the class customization and party of blank slates, I'd actually recommend 3.
If you'd rather play a game with more fleshed out characters and a personal story, 4 and then 5.
>>2845975
The DS remake is probably the best way to play it, unless you can stomach mobile. Only reason I even mention it is because party chat was put back into those versions after being arbitrarily removed from IV DS. V and VI thankfully don't have that problem.
I'm jumping in, guys!
>>2831454
It's still definitely your story, you have a connection with animals, you marry a woman who has Zenithian blood (which IIRC was supposed to be fated), and you go after Nimzo because he's got your mom, not just to save the world. That is covers your whole life gives it a truly epic feeling to me, way more than DBZ power levels and killing God. That everything you do has a personal motivation alongside a plot motivation just makes everything more compelling for the player.
>>2846172
I mentioned the game recently to a friend, and said almost exactly this. Such a great experience.
>>2846167
You're going to have a great time!
>>2846172
You marry a woman with Zenithan blood, your blood is special too without getting into spoilers. And like I said, despite being the Main Char's story, he's not the hero. That's crazy for a JRPG. But his whole life revolving around looking for him and when the Legendary Hero's true nature is finally revealed... man.
And yeah, he's out for himself and his family. Saving the world is just a consequence. It's fucking great. I can gush about this game for hours.
>>2846215
Side topic, but am I the only one though who, despite loving Bianca and the MC's story and chemistry, found it a little odd that Bianca was really into you? I get the childhood friends and being close, but she first saw you when you were like 3 and she was 5, then you were 6 and she was 8.
Ten years later she sees you and was worried that you were gone and that makes sense. But always romantically loved you? Eh....
This will sound shitty in the muh mature media vein but I think the designs in Dragon Quest are too childish. I have a very pronounced dislike for Toriyama, too. So yeah, guess I'll have to pass on this.
>>2846241
The American NES games removed all Toryiama traces and instead went for Elizbethian text and more tradition medival art. Might want to try those, at least III and IV.
>>2846273
So they removed his monster designs too? Cool.
>>2845937
Nice, thanks.
>>2846281
N...no...not the monsters...though once get past the slimes they look pretty generic monstery. Not much different than FF on NES.
>>2846215
Rate my party!
>>2846215
>And like I said, despite being the Main Char's story, he's not the hero. That's crazy for a JRPG. But his whole life revolving around looking for him and when the Legendary Hero's true nature is finally revealed... man.
And not just that, but also living up to the lagacy that was his father, a Great Man to everyone who knew him. The MC is essentially a bit player in the grand scheme of things, and still turns out to be a boss motherfucker.
>>2846424
Happy harem hero/10
>>2846424
>not 3 happy merchants
You fucking blew it, mate.
>>2846528
I did make a Dealer called "Goym" and he, I shit you not, got the "happy" personality.
Also, holy shit these gains the jester class has.
>>2846424
I'd go Merchant over Warrior, but 8/10.
What's the best versions of 4 and 5 to play? I'd prefer not to deal with the ds' garbage resolution and emulation. I'm thinking with 5 I'll go with the ps2 version.
>>2846638
Sadly, the DS version of V is clearly the best version to play.
Same with IV. Either that or mobile. If you don't want to do that, PSX for IV and SNES for V.
>>2846638
Play the original releases you fucking babby.
>>2846638
I played them on an R4 on my DSPhat back in the day. Shit was cash. DQIV is very basic, though.
>>2846621
>Also, holy shit these gains the jester class has.
Isn't the Jester the most broken class in the game for that reason?
>>2846646
I have no qualms with playing the originals, I was merely under the assumption the remakes were better than the original iterations, you faggot. And in general asking which version was the best.
>>2846640
I suppose I'll try emulating the ds versions, if not I'll see which version I prefer by testing the waters of each.
>>2846674
If not for sloppy localization, it would be the DS versions of the Zenithian trilogy hands-down no question. But since the localization of IV and V were butchered, it's a much closer matter than it should otherwise be.
I still say DS, but those who beg to differ are doing so for legit reasons.
>>2846673
Well, they're only getting Luck, MP and Wisdom, none of which they use.
>>2846679
I rather liked some of the silly accents of V, it was only DQIV the one that got shafted by removing the whole party chat.
The best thing about 9 was that your party members changed appearance when they changed armor/weapons. I thought that was really neat.
>>2846220
She never stops mentioning the time the two of you went ghost hunting.
Next time I play it, I'll pick a different girl.
>>2846873
To be fair, ghost hunting as kids and legit killing ghosts is pretty badass and I'm sure is a fond memory.
>>2846679
How was V butchered? It just gave some flavor. Cockney Bianca makes sense as she's basically a good natured country bumpkin. It also highlights her difference between Nera's very proper educated and wealthy upbringing.
>>2846778
That is cool. More JRPGs need to incorporate this, instead of clinging to their character designs so much. One of the few places WRPGs really have them beat.
>>2824502
IV > VI
>>2846873
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I liked III and V, but IV has been boring me (just finished Torneko's chapter). Should I stick with it or play a different one?
>>2812727
They only ever published one in Spain and I liked it. ds games don't count as they're a step back in console evolution.
>>2847115
Torneko's chapter is pretty hype on the DS since you can essentially pass 99x Steel Broadswords, or with luck, 99x Cautery Swords and get mad dosh from the get go on the 5th chapter. Don't worry shit really picks up afterwards. Torneko's part is just a small window into the life of a Great Goym.
>>2847138
DS games are just fine.
Don't be such an elitist. Gives them a viable platform to revist the game. Would be audacious to remake a NES or SNES game on PS3 or 4.
>>2847115
While I personally like the different chapters giving you insight to the backstory of a typical JRPG gang before they meet the MC, I can see how that's not your thing. By the time of Chapter 5 it's normalized, and you're almost there. I'd encourage you to stick it out.
>>2847112
Well, he does get a happy ending at least.
>>2846220
That's why you kick her to the curb and marry Deborah like a true patrician in the DS version.
>>2847220
You do have to visit her every so often and reminisce about hunting ghosts as children though.
>>2847008
>How was V butchered?
Unnecessary name changes, for example Nera's name change only happened because Bianca meant white in Italian so for some reason they decided to change Flora's name to Nera which means black in Italian. I don't know why translators love doing shit like that, and it's more than just that. Also there's censorship in the translation. Personally it doesn't bother me, but I can understand why purists are bothered by it.
>>2846220
>Side topic, but am I the only one though who, despite loving Bianca and the MC's story and chemistry, found it a little odd that Bianca was really into you?
Saving someone's life kinda does that to a person at times.
![Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (Japan) [T-En by DQ Translations v1.1]_00000.png](https://i.imgur.com/TFEv0UZ.png "Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (Japan) [T-En by DQ Translations v1.1]_00000.png")
>>2846424
That's smalltime. Solo Sage is where it's at!
>>2848065
How do you solo DQ3 with anything but a hero?
>>2847220
I'm not into S&M.
>>2848065
I wonder if you can beat the game with only a jester
>>2847383
Well, it's not like Flora was the official name in the west already, and it doesn't take away anything and, if anything, adds meaning to the names. They're localizing, not directly translating, so they need to add somewhere the flavor that can be lost in translation. I'd understand getting pissed at accents that can make some stuff hard to understand (Took me a long while in DQIV to understand that "turr" meant "tower"), but modified dialogue is a rather silly reason to be angry on DQV, since the DS adds so much more stuff.
Was there anything censored? I found all the lewd stuff to be there.
>>2848086
These names are so goddamn boring, anon.
>>2848086
Not him, but I think you can drop the Hero after defeating the final boss.
![10c9319971b3bef876fa8277df64fccffe3c61cf[1].png_610889.png](https://i.imgur.com/BrZSqNO.png "10c9319971b3bef876fa8277df64fccffe3c61cf[1].png_610889.png")
>>2848065
>male Sage
Boo.
>>2848107
Then it's hardly a solo run.
>>2848101
>These names are so goddamn boring, anon.
They're there for a reason, just like the bikinis.
>>2847220
Marrying Debora was like a gamble. Nera is the safe choice, and Bianca isn't bad. Things could either be very bad or very good after marrying Debora, and I'm glad I jumped at the chance.
>>2848115
This is one of the cutest comics I've ever seen. Japan really loves the Hero/Female Sage ship, despite that character having literally no personality...
>>2848253
That's kind of the intent. Deborah is if you want someone to fuck you like a tiger and unfreeze the ice queen. Nera is supposed to be the idea of love at first sight and marrying into a nice loving family. Bianca is the childhood sweetheart whom you've grown to love because of all the time spent together.
>>2847109
That's actually what I was planning.
You know, seeing how slow but audacious this thread is versus the 5 or so FF threads that are present at any given time really shows to me the state (and number) of fans each series has in the West.
I am almost done DW1 and I don't think it's a very good game, how much better is 2?
>>2849437
Also wanted to ask is the NES version of II and III the "definitive" versions?
>>2849446
Definitive for who and what?
The NES versions are neither true to the Famicom originals nor are they as thought through as the SFC remakes.
I saw that there are a couple of DQ mangas, but some series are really long. Are they all good to read, or should I avoid some?
>>2849457
I was generalizing NES with Famicom. Should I do the SFC english patch for DWII? I just went in and did DWI on the NES so I completely missed out on doing it for SFC.
>>2849487
Yes.
Also DW1 is super bare bones. By today's standards it's pretty bad, it's just historically significant.
Honestly, I'd say you can skip II as well because it's also one of those early RPG building blocks that's not really representative of the series as a whole, much like FF2.
DQ/DW doesn't really shine until 3. I'd def recommend playing the SFC remake of that.I really like it's GBC remake though.
>>2815016
>>2815006
I think this anon makes a good point and is in the right. The accusation of autism for not letting a relatively minor thing go is arbitrary considering neither side chose to back down. Either both are autists or neither are.
And it wasn't simply silly, but a definite misinterpretation of the imageboard's voice. The poster he called out would like to pretend the correction was just for correctness' sake but it's clearly because he's attached a certain degree of identity to his post(s) within the thread - hoping his comments will be engaged with, not anonymously, but as a coherent individual. An offense.
No sage for off-topic because 4chan's become a pathetic hugbox.
I started playing the DQ games the last year (from DQ I, GBC version on my 3DS. For portable reasons). When I finish Rune Factory 4, I'm going to start DQ IV (DS).
DQ I is, at this moment, not only my favorite DQ game, also my favorite RPG.
I love his simplicity, and some of the puzzles.Also when at the end, all the world is full of flowers and without monsters
so how viable is not reclassing characters in DQ3? I've kinda grown attached to my Soldier and I want to see if I can carry a jester to the endgame. I do want to change my Cleric to a Sage, though, but I'll wait until she gets revive..
>>2845925
Not him, but beating a game does not necessarily mean you are good at it. DSP managed to beat Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, and Metal Gear Solid 3 despite being clinically retarded and objectively bad at them.
>>2850860
It's perfectly viable.
I think I just hit the inn bug near the end of the game in Dragon Warrior II english patch, is there any way to fix this? I have not saved in a while, so I don't know what to do.
I like where this is going
>>2851852
It's bugs like these and others I've gotten that make me compulsively save state when I sense danger. That and the fact that kings are very far off to each other.
>>2851852
Saw this on a forum
>Make a save state right before talking to the prince, rename the save state so it matches the unpatched version's name, load an unpatched version of the ROM, load the save state, fix the prince, save state again, rename save state to match patched version, load patched game and continue on your merry way.
>>2850123
>You should ignore the first two titles in a barebone RPG franchise because they're simplistic games and don't hold up to today's standards
Am I still in /vr/
>>2851852
As someone who has been through that patch and glitch, this over here is the answer: >>2852349
However, I would not recommend using a save state. Instead, you should actually save the game physically. I used a save state and it just gave me a shit ton of trouble.
However, I'm on Dragon Quest 3 on the GBC, and I'm kinda stuck. I have the Dry Vase and I need to go get the Final Key. The game told me to go look for shoals to use the Dry Vase at, but the only place I can find that has the shoals has an inn nearby, and it SEEMS like the right place, but whenever I approach the shoals, a song starts playing and my ship gets pushed back like 5 spaces. Am I missing something here?
Also, side question: what the fuck is the difference between Recollect, Remember, and Recall?
Aww shit son, I finally got myself a Sage. After struggling a lot with the fucking Troll I am tempted to also reclass my Jester into a Sage, but I fear I might consider myself a casual after going this far to take a Jester to the endgame. At least she can use staves.
Gonna bust all my Life Nuts on the Sage now.
>>2812727
All Dragon Quest are Shit.
Mother es better than Dragon Quest ;
Mother 1 - Earthbound - Mother 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Dragon Quest
I am so glad I did this
>>2814508
Dragon Quest IV's spanish localization is balls on wall funny, especially with the obvious ad-libbing (Torneko is a Jew) and how every kingdom was turned into a real world country.
The Argentinian cats almost made me shit with laugther.
> "Este... miau."
>>2852753
> Not dressing your female characters with Magic Bikinis.
Son, are you gay or what?
Plus, every girl gets a different bathing suit.
>>2852785
>>2852801
Argentian accents make everything funny
https://youtu.be/aBxlZxEDbtY?list=FLkgLXY6vPynR5vrPHT1VCYA&t=522
I will dress everyone in a magic bikini as soon as I can fucking find one. From what I can see it's endgame equipment. I am currently collecting the Orbs
>>2852805
You can get bikinis as semi rare drops more or less at the same time you can start getting the cat suits.
The magic bikinis you can get once you enter into the final world give decent physical defense but they also give you a fuckton of boosts so it's worth grinding for them.
>>2852724
>Not using all your stat items on the hero
What is this, your first time in an RPG?
>>2852829
The Hero is fine. I like having all my characters doing good.Isn't using all your stat boosters on the hero what first time shitters do?
>>2852831
> Using all stat items on the hero
> Wondering why the rest of the party keeps being killed during boss fights
Eyup.
>>2852831
>Putting stat boosting shit on people that will not always be in your party 100% of the time
>Putting rare as fuck items on people that can be removed from the party, or in games where you are forced to go alone
>First-time shitters
Nah bro. Only an idiot trying to pretend he knows what he's doing would do something that idiotic.
>>2852838
>Training a weak party
>"Oh this is totally because I put stat boosting items on the best character to put them on, not because I picked a weak party"
Nyup.
Does art of the princess with the blonde drills exist?
>>2852843
>on people that will not always be in your party 100% of the time
When do they leave? They've been with me from beginning to end the whole game
A good argument you could be using would be
>Putting stat boosters on character who can reclass to gain greater bonuses
But you're dropping many balls. This isn't SMT where your party memebers are evanescent, you're supposed to keep them the whole game.
>>2852847
>When do they leave?
I was talking about RPGs in general, but there's a handful of enemies in the game with a magic ability to forcibly remove party members and put them back in the tavern. Also, I don't know if the SuFami version has it, but the hero also has to go it alone in the Pachisi game.
Also, pic proves you're an idiot, but hey, it's not like the game is hard. Do what you want.
>>2852856
>Also, I don't know if the SuFami version has it, but the hero also has to go it alone in the Pachisi game.
Yep, that's correct the super famicom version does have it and it also has the super boss at the end.
>>2852856
>I was talking about RPGs in general
Not ever RPG works the same
>here's a handful of enemies in the game with a magic ability to forcibly remove party members
Yeah I was hit by Disperse once, but I just warped back, it wasn't a major nuance, as much as I got freaked out a little.
>it's not like the game is hard
Likewise, chill out. If that's the way you conduct yourself in RPGs then that's that. I prefer to have all 4 party members strong and effective, you prefer to overpower the game with a strong solo unit. Both are valid tactics.
That Soldier, Angel, has a Meteor Bracer by the way. Those 6 points in agility are actually 12 and now she's my fastest unit, has more HP and Strength than the Hero.
