tell me a really GOOD platformer , but :
>It can't be a Mario, Sonic, Rayman or Donkey Kong game.
>It must be a pure platform game, not a hybrid like Mega Man.
Adventures of Little Ralph, it's pretty fucking awesome.
>>2786653
There you go
![5542-zxdbdxvfkc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6122pvF.jpg "5542-zxdbdxvfkc[1].jpg")
Rolo to the Rescue.
Goemon series. Especially this one.
If this is a request for recommendations, you should check out Clockwork Knight on the Saturn. Though that might be a hybrid by your definition.
Some other good ones: Klonoa, Yume Penguin Monogatari, Little Nemo, Bio Miracle Bokkute Upa.
Lots of good stuff out there.
Did someone say Klonoa? I think I heard someone say Klonoa
>>2786764
I did. I mentioned it as well as other games.
What about Adventure Island or Kid Chameleon? Still some of my favorite platformers
>>2786768
>Adventure Island
this, easy.
the first one is a classic (aka wonder boy in arcades), but the sequels on NES are even better.
Adventure island for sure. Rush N attack also
>>2786792
Only true answer
>>2786768
Kid Chameleon is amazing.
Co-op! Really fun
Buster's Hidden Treasure is pretty good.
Earthworm jim
Bonk
>>2786807
if op considers mega man a hybrid, then earthworm jim with a pretty heavy focus on shooting and all of it's weird-ass interruption stages (especially in 2) is probably a hybrid too
NES:
Batman
Blaster Master
Bucky o' hare
Castlevania
Joust
Kickmaster
Kid Icarus
Kirby's Adventure
Little Nemo
Little Samson (my personal favourite)
Metal Storm
Metroid
Monster Party
Ninja Gaiden
Shatterhand
Solomon's Key
Solstice (LOL)
SMD:
Adventures of Batman and Robin
Alien Soldier
Castlevania Bloodlines
Dynamite Headdy
Earthworm Jim
Ghouls n Ghosts
Out of This World
Rocket Knight Adventures
Revenge of Shinobi
Ristar
Sparkster
World of Illusion
SNES:
ActRaiser (or 2 if you don't like autism simulator)
Demon's Crest
Doremi Fantasy
Go Go Ackman
Kirby Superstar
Sparkster (different game)
Super Bonk
Super Castlevania
Super Ghouls n Ghosts
Super Metroid
Secret Agent. It's very simple, but original. The levels are bizarre 90s cartoon style, kinda like doodles some 11 year old kid would draw in the corner of a math test. Good responsive controls, great variety of enemies, fair but challenging, and lots of huuuuge levels with nice variety of themes.
Only downside is the sounds, The sound effects are pretty basic bleeps and bloops, there is no music soundtrack at all.
what are some great platformers like Mario or Sonic in which you main attack is jumping over your enemies?
Not platformers like Megaman or Rayman in which jumping over your enemy hurts you.
>>2786806
>>2786803
Any Konami or Capcom licensed platformer from the 80s/90s are god-tier.
Chip & Dale, Ducktales, all the mickey Magical Adventure games, all these Capcom games are god-tier platformers.
Also Aladdin, I don't want to start the typical sega VS nintendo aladdin fight, but I always considered the Capcom Aladdin the better game because it has tight as fuck controls and level design, it's heavily centered toward acrobatics and momentum, while the Virgin game on Genesis is a lot more similar to Earthworm Jim, instead you use a sword instead of a gun. Still a good game, but Capcom's Aladdin is the superior platformer IMHO.
Also, Sega's classic licensed disney games are all 10/10 platformers: Castle of Illusion and World of Illusion must be mentioned in this thread, also Quackshot.
Bonk's Revenge
Ninja Gaiden
Ninja Spirit
Liquid Kids
Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
Castlevania bloodlines
Mega Turrican
Land of Illusion (SMS)
Yo! Noid
>>2786792
I might actually rate most of these higher than the NES Marios.
>>2786653
The Disney Illusion series. It's not a meme, listen to everyone mentioning them.
>>2786758
I sure do wish I could read Japanese. I'm sure it would make that game and Goemon 4 a lot more enjoyable.
>>2786653
Excluding the problematic camera and short length, this was a solid and underrated platformer.
>>2786653
Jazz Jackrabbit
Jazz Jackrabbit 2
Prince of Persia
Blackthorne
Karnov on the NES.
>>2786653
Elf and Odyssey for the Amiga. Odyssey is amazing, and pretty unique. Slow to start, but really different.
>>2786653
>Not a hybrid like Mega Man
what? Adding depth to you combat system makes a game not a real platformer now? lol
Also, Castlevania.
>>2786823
How is Joust a platformer? It's more like a fighting game, close to early version of something like Smash bros. I mean, everything else on that list is great and I love some love for Metal Storm, just saying, Joust is less about traversing the world with difficulty and more about defeating your opponents by flying into them in a specific way.
>>2786670
This, and its direct sequel are among the best.
>>2787516
Joust might also be thought of as a variation of original Mario Bros. in a way. Maybe that's anon's line of thinking.
>>2787513
Sorry, Castlevania is a hybrid.
>>2787318
Gex was not underrated. The series as a whole was fairly popular and well received by critics.
>>2786653
Kid Chameleon is what you get when you put Mario on Sega.
>>2787626
Err, 30% reviews across the board. Revisionist scum.
>No Dragon's Curse.
You disgust me.
>>2786825
It'd be great if you gave a platform.
>>2788336
hey I watch game sack too :D dave a best
>>2788349
this shitposting again?
>>2788353
>>2788349
many different ways
I still remember you whining about your "game suck" shit when I mentioned a game that they just happened to have done recently (which I didn't know until you started whinging about it, I have my own routes of learning about new games and game sack isn't one of them)
stop assuming that the only way people learn about games are watching youtube videos just because you hate "e-celebs".
FUCK I TOOK THE BAIT
NOW GO
>>>/out/
>>>/trash/
>>>/v/
>>2788357
you sound autistic desu senpai
>>2788357
>I still remember you whining about your "game suck" shit when I mentioned a game that they just happened to have done recently
You must remember another anon because it wasn't me.
Anyway, sorry guys, I just thought >>2788336 sounded like a pretentious hipster, but I don't want this thread to turn into shit, this is a nice thread.
Here's Astal for Saturn, it's pretty short and easy but it has excellent graphics.
>>2788349
>I'm a pleb who only knows about retro games through faggot YouTubers so everybody else must be too
Are you sure you're on the right board?
>>2788369
calling other people hipster and looking down upon them is the true hallmark of a hipster
>>2788372
>>2788374
I admit I overreacted. Please forgive me?
>>2786653
ok it's totally not mario
>>2788369
>You must remember another anon because it wasn't me.
I'm not convinced, the wording of the post was exactly the same
>hey I watch game sack too :D dave a best
I pressed you on it, and you replied with "game suck" just as in
>>2788353
If you're not him at least you're following an identical pattern, and since you're anonymous you can then be considered to be identical.
>>2788376
stop shitposting then
>>2788385
>If you're not him at least you're following an identical pattern, and since you're anonymous you can then be considered to be identical.
I swear I didn't ever talked about game sack before, or even read anyone else refer to them as "game suck"
>stop shitposting then
ok but next time don't say that we disgust you just because we haven't mentioned your favorite lesser known title, ok? this thread is to share and recommend, not act all high and mighty.
>>2788390
>disgust whatever
that was another poster, you just triggered my autism by reminding me of this another poster who isn't you (I'm still not convinced tbqh)
but now we're just derailing the thread
On topic: Platformer: Darkwing Duck on NES, dunno if it counts as a hybrid though with that shooting action.
>>2788343
Oh yeah.. it's for MsDOS.
>>2786653
>not a hybrid like Mega Man
but...my Goonies II...
:^(
No Alex Kidd in here?
>>2786676
God I loved this game. I still won't let my little brother erase the file where I got 100% completion. Finding all those goddamn alternate paths...
I recently replayed 3 on an emulator and just didn't like it. I loved the whole exploration aspect as a kid, but now it just seems annoying.
>>2786676
why is it red
>>2786835
aladdin on the snes is legit my favorite platformer
>>2786653
Can anyone explain why Megaman wouldn't be a platformer? I always thought of those games as platformers. Is it something to do with the main mechanic being shooting and not jumping? Would this definition also put Castlevania outside of the realm of platformer?
>>2786653
Captain Claw
>>2789075
Is it really a pure platformer? I should check it out then.
>>2786827
But sonic isnt even a great platformer
>>2788384
it actually really isn't. it is a fucking fantastic game on its own. for some stupid reason they modeled the first and only the first level after mario. but all the other levels are original and really fun.
>>2788941
never played either but the red one looks to be a sequel to WarioLand II (notice how the red one has a third I)
>>2789159
i disagree. the first sonic is my favorite specifically because of its emphasis on platforming and not just 'SPEEDLAMO'. it is really good, it has momentum, something not many other games got right, and a lot of its own gimmicks which were found in literally zero other platformers.
>>2786653
Kid Chameleon is what you want
>>2786653
SkullMonkeys desu. Still plays well.
it's not 100% platform, but close enough
>>2786653
hermie hopper head
get some jet set willy in here
nuff said
>>2789167
Not him, but in terms of actual platforming, I hate Sonic's way too slow acceleration. It was just annoying when doing precision platforming.
Crash Bandicoot is the platformer with perfect acceleration for me. I don't know why people think Crash reaches his top speed instantly. It's fast, but not instant.
>>2788892
I've been playing II and if anyone says they got the exit to the factory chapter on their first playthrough they're a lying sack of shit. Everything up to that point had been possible to figure out with a little bit of patience and paranoia.
>>2789286
my nigga!
>>2789298
the slow acceleration only made it that much more satisfying when you actually hit your top speed
ive only played the first crash but it felt like he tops his speed immediately.
>>2789307
you shall not pass
>>2789296
I remember reading a gaming magazine from like 1999 that said this game and Bubsy 3D were ass. I think it was called GamePro magazine or something?
>>2786653
alice on pcengine
whirlo / xandra on snes
^some of the most underrated of all time imo
>>2789164
are you blind? or am i?
Bucky O'Hare
What do you mean about Mega Man being a "hybrid?" Just curious.
Not really the best, but a good game not mentioned here is Quantum Kabuki Fighter.
Dragon's Egg on the PC Engine
Moon Crystal on NES
Knightmare II on the MSX II
How about metroid? i luv it and it is a true platformer.
>>2790795
That sounds so awesome to me. The only fault I find with it is that it sounds like a fighter. Nothing wrong with it being a fighter, just sounds misleading.
>>2790805
Going by OP's standard, it falls in line with Megaman. What with them running around shooting things.
>>2786653
Crash Bandicoot Trilogy in PSX
>>2789031
exactly. they are more like action platformers.
>>2790983
But Mario also goes around shooting things, is Mario not pure?
![Asterix_Tree[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gS894NE.jpg "Asterix_Tree[1].jpg")
one of the best the mastersystem had to offer
>>2787539
>Joust might also be thought of as a variation of original Mario Bros
Except it predated Mario Bros.
>>2791150
excellent point, but even if it didn't, i don't know how joust would be a platformer
>>2786898
> yo Noid
This and the 7 up game were underrated classics.
Rocket Knight Adventures, Wonder Boy/Adventure Island, Dynamite Headdy etc are all better than Mario ever was tbqh.
>>2791563
different kind of games, RKA and Dynamite Headdy are significantly different than Mario.
But I consider Adventure Island to be at least on par with the Mario series, especially Adventure Island II, III and IV.
>>2788941
the best gb game i played was wario land 2
>>2791092
Crash Bandicoot 3 is a blatant hybrid, though.
>>2790761
Not him but I guess he means Mega Man is an action platformer, not a pure platformer, some may even call it run and gun.
gimmick! ftw
>>2791691
another personal fav but that's a cinematic platformer. it's also a hybrid because of the shootouts and puzzle solving.
>>2786653
>>2786659
>Adventures of Little Ralph
This or Umihara Kawase, although it's not a pure platformer in the classic sense, it's still mechanically tighter than 99% of the genre.
>>2786670
Speaking of PSX classics, let's not forget about the three original Spyro The Dragon games, back when it was actually good before Insomniac sold the rights.
>>2791760
So, let me get this straight. If the platformer has a character that doesn't have a means of ejecting a projectile from the beginning, it's not a run and gun?
Like Super Mario Bros. has Mario without such a thing but when he gets a fire flower he can fire fireballs.
>>2786653
duke nukem 1 and 2
>>2791820
Just like Crash 3, I believe Spyro 2 and 3 would be considered hybrids.
>>2792082
I love Larkin love and her freaky ass tongue. I want it down my urethra
>>2786806
>last three levels don't have passwords
>have to make it to and beat the final boss with 3 lives
>game is hard as fuck because of the slippery ass controls
Hate. I actually like the game and played it a lot as a child but seriously fuck that shit
>>2789286
just wanted to say, genuine thanks for reminding me that way of the rodent exists
>>2792859
worst game in the series. who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make an AI game with no fucking run button. good music though
>>2786823
Seconding Actraiser 2. Definitely an acquired taste.
>>2789296
My aunt had this game. I don't think it was that bad.
>>2789302
>exit to the factory chapter
Yup.
That kid from my school helped me to get some of the exits in the game. I never really completed the game after a couple of years, I was shit at timed jumps.
Wario Land 4
>>2786676
This is actually really fucking good
not retro but try Bionicle Matoran Adventure
Kid Chameleon.
dangerous dave
>>2786653
Shantae
>>2800230
>shantae
>pure platformer
"no"
>>2790805
like metroid prime
>>2800280
It's not even a good Metroidvania. Shantae is only popular because it has the best graphics on the GBC.
>>2786827
Doremi Fantasy
Wario Land, all of them.
>>Ctrl+f Prehistoric 2
>>No matches found
>>I'm old
>>2786653
>Ctrl+f commander keen.
>0 results
Come on /vr forgetting old id/ apogee stuff?
Tomba, fuck your rules.
Kirbys Dreamland 1+2 (Gameboy)
>>2803754
1 is dated as hell at this point
2 is pretty good still
Kirby's Adventure is still the height of the series
>>2803745
Nice choice. I'm pretty sure Tomba is within the rules.
![Jumping Flash! 2 [U] [SCUS-94108]-front.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kB2GMx8.jpg "Jumping Flash! 2 [U] [SCUS-94108]-front.jpg")
>>2786653
>>2804168
good game
>>2789026
Yup, played it over and over and over
>>2788407
Loved playing this one. Got it along with Titus the fox as a kid and still have them in my collection of Amiga/PC games.
>>2789260
that frog looks quite smug
you say frog?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkjsN-J27aU
>>2804057
The other 2 Wario Lands besides the main 4 are pretty good, too.
The main problem with Wario Land 3 was the amount of backtracking involved. You'd have to re-visit stages with new equipment a lot, with 4 treasures per stage. Also, the lack of deaththroughout most of the gamemade it so that most punishments meant being slowed down or forced to repeat a part of the stage; while not as bad as death, the fact that you could re-try immediately made some obstacles a bit harder to pass as a result, IIRC, and a bit more frustrating.
Has anyone played this? Pitfall the Mayan Adventure?
I remember it being quite difficult and disorienting, but that was 20 years ago.
>>2806035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbJyuMQ47og
really beautiful artstyle
Bugs Bunny: Lost in Time was pretty damn good.
I suggest you to try it even if it's an "hybrid".
(I'm posting this 'cause you mentioned Rayman as an exception which fits in the requirements you imposed for the suggestions thread)
My favourite childhood game.
>>2806035
I hate how you have a large lifebar but everything in the last levels kill you in one hit. Other than that great game, they were inspired by Earthworm Jim's animation and production values. It plays nothing like the original though, I remember some magazines of the time criticizing that.
>>2806092
I not understand the image
>>2806046
Yeah this game was surprisingly good. So many nice touches. From alligator chasing you health indicator, all the way to that GOAT ending.
>>2803754
Can you call a game where you can fly with almost no restriction a platformer?
>>2803745
Probably okay within the rules. Just because it has objectives, doesn't make it less pure.
>>2791146
One of Sega's greatest.
>>2806874
Yes.
>>2806874
If Super Mario World is considered a pure platformer, then I guess so.
>ctrl+f Rick Dangerous
>0
>>2809161
this!
>>2801152
Shantae is only popular be cause Shantae is Sexy, Shantae is the Bayonetta of the retro-plataformer.
I log so much time in this game
its like a mario/megaman/zelda cross
and its inexpensive
9/10 good game
>>2787328
basically Jazz Jackrabbit 2 is all you need, shit ton of mods over jazz2online.com
>>2786653
Mischief Makers is both the best 2D platformer ever made, and the best game ever made.
>>2810050
But Shantae's design is just a rip off of Asha from Monster World IV, so why isn't MW IV more popular?
>>2813639
Just because they both have an Arabian Nights setting doesn't mean one is a rip-off of the other; Shantae's concept (a dancing, shape-shifting genie) is very different from Aisha
>>2813668
I'm not talking concept I'm just talking design. It's a bit more than just the Arabian nights setting even Shantae's face is very similar to the Monster World cover art character design style. I'd be pretty surprised to hear the team behind Shantae never played the Monster World series.
>>2813707
I think it has more to do with the fact that this type of setting is not commonly used in games. Shantae and MWIV are two of the few examples, along with Legend of/Beyond Oasis and The Magic of Scheherazade
