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>>2654775
SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME PINBALL FAGGOT?
First you gotta have some things to play it with.
If you want some real deal pinball, https://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play
If you can't go to any of those for any reason, there's pinball simulators.
http://pinballarcade.com/ is a widely popular one that simulates a bunch of classic tables but you either have to pay out the nose for DLC or torrent the damn thing.
http://vpuniverse.com/index.php/index.html is another one, requires a bit of fucking around but once you get it running you get all the free pinball you could ever want
Now there's some extra doohickeys if you need something extra.
http://ipdb.org/search.pl Info on tables
http://papa.org/learning-center/video-resources/tutorial-videos/ Tutorials
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.games.pinball Pinball forum if the /vr/ general isn't up
http://papa.org/learning-center/video-resources/seminars/game-rulesheets/ Rulesheets
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/ Repair guides
http://findapinball.com/ The map I said above but for Europoors
Also, our, one of our brotier anons is converting VP9 tables to the godly PM5:
https://mega.nz/#F!31EFjR4K!TLAHtCrT2P7REc7cbXTCAA
Let's hope we can keep this going. The last thread lasted a long time. My league scores sucked balls tonight, but at least I got to shoot the shit with the old pros for hours on end. Also got that awesome glitch/possible easter egg on NES pinball where if you score high enough, the flippers turn invisible. Such a weird game.
What are the hardware system requirements to run PhysMod5 tables with Visual Pinball?
>>2711529
Not much really, I used to be able to run it on my laptop, but I haven't tried it again. It's more than VP9 was, but that really wasn't terrible. Give it a whirl and see for yourself.
Anyone love Midnight Magic.
>>2712185The Mrs. does.
Reminder that everyone should watch TILT: The Battle to Save Pinball
>>2712472
Not if they like that shitty machine.
>>2712472
Special When Lit is worth watching too.
>>2713597
Has there actually been a resurgence? I know Jersey Jack opening increased the # of companies in the market by 100% but are they doing well? Are people spending money on pinball?
>>2713632
There was a successful run by Spooky Games LLC, who funded their own table and sold out after making a not-insignificant number of units. The table is pretty spartan, but the execution of the theme is pretty fun. Dunno if they're going to follow up on it though.
>>2713632
The collector's market has gone through the roof. Prices for tables are at an all time high. Stern is doing better now than they have been in the past decade or so. Some of the biggest pinball events have taken place the last 5 years. People are paying attention to pinball again.
Any news on the Big Lebowski pin?
I got to play it once and it was great
>>2713767
>not-insignificant number of units
150 isn't a lot. And while I've only played about 10 games on it, I feel the table leaves a lot to be desired. They are going to do a Rob Zombie table next as well.
>>2714213
Oh, I musta added a trailing zero in my head when I read the number.
>>2714030
Damn straight it has. Anything system 11 or newer has gotten too much for my bank account
OK, if you've got a softmodded wii (which I presume everyone on /vr/ should have as it's great for emulation). Burn yourselves a copy of the Gottlieb AND the Williams collection. Or conversely buy them.
>>2714030
What numbers are Stern pins selling at?
In the 90's peak Williams would consider 3000-4000 a success, would they not?
Stern crank out 3 new titles a year, how many units are they producing on average?
What was the last pinball machine you played and what did you think of it?
>>2715652
Medieval Madness
I hate trolls.
>>2715652
Pinball for the NES.
It was ok.
>>2715674
One thing I often forget about is if you get any "Troll Bombs" you can press the launch button to automatically hit them.
>>2715764
NES pinball is decent, nothing spectacular, but certainly not mediocre either. It was either this one or Rollerball which had numerous extra flippers, and I always like tables with extra flippers beyond the bottom ones, it feels like there's more control that way.
I'm one of those guys from the past thread who haven't ever played a real pinball game, by the way. I will some day though.
I know there was a Pokémon themed pinball game for the Gameboy, but was there ever an actual physical table? I mean, Japan is probably lousy with all kinds of pachinko machines made on a Pokémon license, but I figure, Pokémon was so INCREDIBLY big in the late 90's/early 2000's, so it seems to me that maybe there could have been a table (not that pokémon isn't still big).Pic somewhat related, favorite pokémon.
>>2715834
Pinball is almost exclusively an American thing. There's some popularity in Europe (especially Germany), but in Japan it never really caught on. Most licensed themed pinball games are based on American or European properties (Comic books, movies, music, etc.)
>>2715883
>>2715316
cool pinball, Ahmed.
>>2715883
That's not entirely true.
Pinball is an American institution yes, but it was illegal in many American cities for decades up until the mid 1970s. The American pinball companies thrived on marketing their games to europe and other countries. Having an American theme was a big draw in Europe and elsewhere as USA was always considered the home of the best table manufacturers.
Europe had pinball companies like Playmatic and Zaccaria among others.
>Japan it never really caught on
Capcom and Data East are japanese you know and they made pinball.
>pic related, Spanish made pinball with a USA theme
Look at this Euro beast
>>2716840
>Capcom and Data East are japanese you know and they made pinball.
Ignorant bullshit about two Chicago companies
Sega Japan was producing its own pinballs locally for two short periods of time; 1971-1973 and 1976-1979. The 1970s were the golden age of Japanese-made pinballs. Up until that time, most of the pinballs were made in the USA and the prices were very high. In a typical amusement centre it would cost ￥50 per game for American-made pinballs. This was simply not affordable for most Japanese at that time.
As a result, Sega Japan started to produce a series of electromechanical pinballs in 1971. The price of Sega pinballs was only ￥30 per game, and so these became very popular in Japanese society.
>>2717253
>only ￥30 per game
>flyer clearly shows ￥50 per game
Uh huh, champ.
Fucking Pinbot is such a charming character. I'd love to have all three tables side by side, plus anything like Taxi where he makes a cameo.
>LOOK OVER THERE
>Where?
>BOX CARS
>Trying to cheat?
>>2717638
Ice cream + split pea soup
Anyone knows the machine in the background with the skulls? It`s from Jaws 2. IMDB and google came up with nothing.
>>2718046
It's Death Race. The first controversial video game ever. Dat delicious scream as you run over the "gremlins"
>>2718053
Oh cool, thanks. I thought it was a pinball in the back. The guy in the front is playing one, but they dont show it.
>>2717638
I always thought "Son of Pinbot" or "Pinbot Jr." would be a nice followup. The rules would consist of raising Pinbot Jr., with the endgame being to make him a successful adult robot.
>>2717384
I'm quoting the owner of a Japanese pinball museum, the flyer is something I just googled.
You got something worthwhile to contribute, champ?
>>2715652
Walking Dead.
Its a very boring table with nothing to shoot at. The pop bumpers slow the game down too much, the well walker in the middle of the field is dumb, and the safehouse/barn is so uninteresting. I don't get any sort of progression either, just a bunch of zombie noises constantly getting killed.
Never been into pinball, but I've wanted to build a fairly complete "arcade"/game room so its kind of a staple.
Don't care to invest much into it, so how are those "Zazzle" pinball 3/4 machines?
>>2718857
Sorry "Zizzle" pinball machines. My mistake. Clearly I dont know pinball.
>>2718765
The 1.41 code is actually complete, but operators don't load it onto machines, preferring to leave launch code on: people launch the ball, watch it STDM, repeat 2x, and then the next person in line puts in $1.
Why update that? So check the code version.
>>2719041
I agree. Honestly a computer with Pinball Arcade or Virtual Pinball in your game room would be more "authentic" that that shit.
>>2719170
I believe I have played on the new code though. Is there a way to check without opening the door? And updated code or not, I'm still not a fan of the layout and flow of the table.
FEEL THE POWER OF THE WIND
>>2719339
Does anyone have that pic of the Whirlwind table modded with a leaf blower?
>>2718765
That sounds like the show itself.
>>2719450
>>2721197
Thanks pin-anon
Do you all nudge and shake the machine when you play? How often do you tilt if at all?
I think I tilt more than most people I play with but only because I live in pic related.
>>2723097
Do it all the time. Only tilted once.
>>2723097
Depends on the table. Later tables are actually built with bumping in mind; there's literally shots you can't make and bonuses you can't hit without bumping the table. Super old tables/rare tables that are a bitch to maintain are considered bad manners to bump. If in doubt, ask the owner.
Gorgar is notorious for draining down the left lane. More often than not if I'm playing Gorgar I'm slapping it around like a cheap whore.
>>2716840
Except the Capcom, Data East, and Sega pinball divisions were all run by Americans living in Chicago.
Data East and Sega later turned into Stern, who still produce machines today.
>>2723246
>there's literally shots you can't make and bonuses you can't hit without bumping the table
Could you list any that aren't death saves? I'm genuinely curious because I'm having trouble thinking of any.
>>2712472
>>2712489
Lol, I have a SWE1 pin in the corner. I like it cunt face.
>>2723460
>I like it
>but not enough to turn it on
>>2723496
Yes because people leave their pinball machines on 24/7...
>>2723278
Joe Kamincow had a spy at Williams, he was dumpster diving over at Capcom and then Larry DeMar was taking shit to him from Williams at night.
-topcast42
Claude Fernandez is a bitch who moves in with people and their new wife just so he can steal their top pinball designs and move to Bally.
Flash #1? Black Knight #1? FUCK YOU I steal your game FLASH GORDON LOL have fun selling half the BKs.
Ultimate pinball bitch = Claude Fernandez
>>2723513
Well I certainly wouldn't leave a chair in front of it.
But you couldn't be bothered to turn it on because it's not plugged in and there is a bunch of shit stored under it and in the way but you tried to make up for it by not so slyly getting earthbound in the picture too.Turn it on and lets see those highscores cunt face :)
>>2723646
Shots fired
>>2724079
bump for results
>>2725349
My guess is that Mr. Ep I was planning on some sort of comeback pic with his machine on, but he can't get it to work again.If he had to pick a Pinball 2000 machine, it should have been Revenge from Mars.
>>2725527
In his defense the pic indicates that he is a Star Wars fan/collector so I assume his motivation for owning the machine was dictated by theme rather than being a knowledgeable pinball connoisseur wanting a decent table
>>2725991
>Star Wars collecting
>prequel memorabilia
Wasn't there ever any older Star Wars tables? I'd much rather have that then the Episode 1 table.
>>2726040
There's been a few made over the years, the most popular is The Data East table from 92.
Disregarding the poor content of both the prequel movies and the playability of the Ep1 table. It is an impressive and unique looking pinball, sure to impress any casual person or "le-nerdy-bazinga" type who thinks anything Star Wars is the pinnacle of nerd culture.
I mean, how many people are even aware that the Pinball 2000 machines exist? The mirrored display video alone is a sight to behold, yes, even if it is of that Jar Jar fuck and the annoying Vader kid.
And here's Sega's Star Wars Trilogy from 97
>>2715267
>>2719041
>>2719180
Zizzle guy here again.
Really? Pinball video games are good? I've played some but I always felt that part of the appeal of pinball was seeing the entire board/table.
I've played a limited number of pinball video games and other than Space Cadet Pinball on Windows (Which I very much enjoyed), they all do the stupid half screen scrolling thing.
I have a semi-mame set up (Modded OG Xbox, Sega Saturn, OG Wii & BC PS3) with an X-Arcade (don't judge...its just easier). I'll look into the Wii PinBall games suggested.
>>2726104
The appeal IS the entire board/table; the physicality and real experience of it. It can never be truly emulated but some of the stuff currently going on like Pinball Arcade is the next best thing and are great digital representations of real machines.
Lot's of fun too.
>>2726104
>Really? Pinball video games are good?
Some are.
I heard KISS Pinball for the PS1 was pretty bad, though on the flip side, it was only 10 dollars when it was new.
However, Space Cadet is gr8 m8, I r8 8/8.
Also, some people don't have any pinball tables anywhere close to where they live, so if it allows them to get their fix at home, that's always a thing.
>>2726151
Speaking of Space Cadet, has anyone ever tried to make a real life Space Cadet table?
>>2726104
>Pinball video games are good?
Pro pinball is literally the only series to bother with if you are interested in amazing physics and Visual pinball 10 is around the corner which is going to be great to.
>>2726138
>Pinball Arcade is the next best thing
Fuck off is it pinball arcade is total shit, wank physics, wank 3d and poorly optimized.. the fucking ball doesn't even have a spin model or anything I mean it literally couldn't be a poorer representation of real life, Visual pinball 10/physmod5 is currently by FAR the best recreations of real life tables and pro pinball still has the best physics of all time.
>>2726104
they all do the stupid half screen scrolling thing.
Pro pinball is fixed full table view, pinfx2 has fixed full table view, visual pin is fixed full table view and even pinball arcade has it sounds to me like you've only played shit pinball games.
>>2726184
"some of the stuff currently going on like Pinball Arcade is the next best thing"
Learn to read you salty fuck
Best table of all time reporting in
>>2726151
Creep Night Pinball.
Timeshock.
I can't stand pinball video games. It completely ruins the appeal of a physical game, man vs. machine, and all that. The experience just can't be properly recreated in digital form, even if the physics are "accurate".
>>2726624
No shit. But you can't stand them? There are a ton of sports games and driving games that are great. Is it the same as doing it in real life? Of course not but they are still fun.
>>2726198
Pinball Arcade is total shit with shit physics, ball doesn't even spin, flipper passes are emulated. Learn to read. Can't even catch in Pinball Arcade (until they add "catch emulation" or some bullshit)
>>2727286
>shit physics
>ball doesn't even spin
>flipper passes are emulated
It's like you've never even played it.
>>2727467
>can't even into 1000 Hz physics framerate
>can't into fixed physics timestep
>can't emulate ball spin, rotational effects, increased spin from movement and objects
>can't into spin recalculations on the fly due to collisions
>can't simulate friction on contact and collisions
>can't convert translational kinetic energy into rotational energy until entering a natural roll
>can't simulate flippers as true dynamic rigid bodies with forces from the solenoid, return spring, and ball's effects
>can't bounce ball off flippers correctly
>can't tap pass, cradle separate, drop catch, live catch
>can't simulate friction of flipper rubbers
But you've got your emulated post passes
>>2727708
You can get a whole season's worth of tables for 15 dollars when they go on sale. 22 tables for 15 dollars is good shit, but most people want all the new stuff. Hell I have about 17 hours in that game and 7 hours was just spent dicking around in trial mode.
>>2727708
>See?
That wasn't even me it was someone else but it's very true Pinball arcade is utter shit, the ball visually spins in pinball arcade but it does nothing on the effect of the ball. If you think it's good then il have to assume you're a shit player who has never played a real table or is to amateur to even notice the difference. Go play timeshock to see what good physics look/feel like but lemme guess you'd do that then try claiming it sucks because you realise how much harder pinball is with decent physics.
>>2727467
>It's like you've never even played it.
Not him but i'l bet my bollock you don't have a single score better than mine so feel free to post one and we can see who plays it. It's still total shit though.
>>2726198
>"some of the stuff currently going on like Pinball Arcade is the next best thing"
>Learn to read you salty fuck
I did and that's why im saying it isnt the next best thing you thick fucking sack of cum. Visual pin is the next best thing and the pc release of ultra timeshock will no doubt take the top spot. Dumb cunt.
>>2727759
>Hell I have about 17 hours in that game
Lmao proving my point as to why you fucks are so clueless. I think the game is shit and still have a couple hundred hours in it all of those btw spent actually playing.
>that guy who always shits up the pinball thread over "muh realism"
>that guy who tells you that "that table is shit and you shouldn't play it because I say so" in every pinball thread
When I'm not out playing real pinball I enjoymy totally free pirated version ofPinball Arcade as a fine substitute
>>2715834
Pokemon Pinball was the GOAT portable console pinball
>>2728102
At least someone gets it. I'm convinced the people arguing over the video games don't play real pinball enough.
mfw I don't hit anything and I don't get the ball save
>>2728102
If you are going to enjoy free why not opt for superior visual pinball? That is fucking retarded son.
Here is a recent Drunk History episode that talked about when pinball was outlawed
http://vodlocker.com/5nnykkfahsoy
>mfw i hit a ball so hard into a slighshot it flies over the flipper railing and into the drain
>>2727834
and you're obsessed over flaws. I accept that it is video game pinball and not a 1:1 replacement or sim.
I can't stand real pinballs and real physics. I only like sonic spinball
>>2728879
I saw this when it aired and it was a nice surprise. I love that story.
>>2728985
Enjoy your shit physics and being able to control sonic mid air. I only ride the roller coaster.
>>2728641
Can you simplify it for me?
Seriously.
It's a major drag just looking into the process of installing it.
>>2728950
>tfw the slingshots seem like they're set to fuck you over
>>2729981
>tfw you still go back to the table anyway because you're not gonna let a soulless machine push you aroundIt still does.
>>2730168
>tfw you get one good game out of a million, get the wizard mode and it's like the table wants you to never leave it.
Seriously, I've wasted so much on this table trying to get the monsters lit. The one time that i did I got it thrice, instruments lit as well. Full Monster Bash Multiball a few times.Only on that one game
It's like a mockery, it has a soul and it gets off on your losses
I finally found a copy of High speed, the last NES pinball game to complete my set today, but I found something I wanted even more. Crueball in the fucking box with the manual. This thing looks factory fresh. I've never found a used game in this nice of shape. 6 fucking dollars, holy fuck I'm playing some pinball tonight.
>>2730834
That's awesome
I've become more than a bit charmed by the nuances of Nintendo's launch title pinball on the nes. I don't know what it is, but I played the game for fucking hours when I picked it up. There's so much weird shit going on, like your flippers going invisible when you hit 10000 points. Today, just for shits and giggles, I gave the Vs. Arcade version a whirl, and now I'm wishing I had a real Vs. cabinet for this one, or at least a NES conversion reproduction. All those extras are so nice that the nes version feels like a pale prototype. This stuff fascinates the shit out of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXypHXRLL-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrsly10VCu0
also; come at my vs. pinball score bro
>>2731256
I probably sound like an entitled shit, but why does this game look so much worse than other NES games? The artwork is MS Paint level, no textures, no structures. I know the NES can do better, it did in plenty other games. This looks like interns worked on this.
>>2731687
It was a famicom launch title, they were just starting to learn what their machine was capable of. They were making basic games like popeye and golf at the time, which still looked miles better than anything a gen2 console had done up till that point.
Anyone played Tommy? I almost drained laughing so hard when the blinders came out.
>>2714030
I bet it's in part due to video games finally being able to deliver good simulations. Before we got super-beefy GPUs it wasn't easy or well-known where to find good simulators, and now we have TPA and Pinball FX2 to draw in more attention to the game.
>>2715652
Black Knight, it kicked my ass and I was upset.
Alternatively, Pokemon Pinball. That game is boss.
>>2718046
wow, never noticed death race in the back.
Incidentally, there's a place in Cincinnati that has both Death Race and Computer Space.
>>2721197
any videos of someone playing it?
Preferably someone with long hair, I want a wee giggle.
>>2719450
>>2721197
>>2734791
(skip to 1:09)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD4-X0wRBAEYou're welcome.
FREE GAME
Had you propelled the ball along the proper trajectory, you would have been rewarded.
>>2736731
Thank you, Mr. Data.
>>2728379
This hurts. I know it was another time, and they WERE used for illegal shit, but oh man, that hurts.
Electromechanical Pins are impressive, if you've ever seen the guts of them. Small triumphs of engineering.
>>2736731
>>2736746
One of the best bonuses in Pinball.
>>2737765
>>2737765
>>2737767
I posted this in the previous pinball thread.
I've no experience with the intricacies of pinball outward of actually playing them.
I found this on ebay and I'd love to see it restored to its former glory.
>>2737783
>>2737785
>>2737786
>>2737789
Please tell me I'm not crazy, but from the games I've played, Pinball Arcade has RNG physics.
Lemme explain, out of ten games, nine I have are godawful because it either goes straight down the middle or falls off to the sides, but the one game I had in those ten games is phenomenal even for Leaderboard standards.
So are Pinball Arcade's physics completely random? Its not skill based?
>>2738281
No, they're just bad. This kinda thing happens in real pinball to me. I'll play like shit round after round then randomly I'll play like I'm fucking Tommy.
>>2738281
nah you play like an idiot. Pinball is about controlling or at least trying to control it.
>>2738281
No, the physics are sound. They're not hyper-realistic, but they're sound.
The problem you're having seems like you just need to get a bit more precision on your shots, or you're playing a dick table and happen to avoid the nasty places every once in a while.
>>2712185
A most impressive effort on the Atari 2600:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A6naeMFmyY
>Spend two fucking hours downloading the PM5 shit
>MEGA refuses to give me the file
There aren't enough fucks for this.
Played Crueball into the wee hours of the night and made it all the way to volume level 9. Good god the music is so good, which isn't surprising considering it's the same dude who did Black Knight 2000's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eVyG4pzJA
>>2738741
They hired Steve Ritchie to do the music for a pinball video game but not the design?
>>2738741
>it's the same dude who did Black Knight 2000's soundtrack.
If you mean Brian Schmidt, he's done way more than just BK2K.
Space Station and Swords of Fury come to mind as standouts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYxjEAXrLho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMIp5nG-C3o
In my opinion, Swords of Fury has the best pinball soundtrack of the System 11 era because of the way it builds over the course of the game and sets a perfect tone for the gameplay. Plus it has the badass multiball tune.
>>2738475
In short, can somebody upload the pack to a not shit file service, even Google Drive will work
>>2738446
Does it only use the one button to hit both flippers?
Looks great apart from that, I can't beleive I hadn't played it before.
I only remember this one
Over a hundred posts in and no mention of Pinball Dreams or Pinball Fantasies? For shame, /vr/!
>>2739893
Because it's an ongoing general, real pinball and current simulators get preference and discussion over older pinball video games you sperg.
If you want to discuss those games, bring them up, just don't expect every video iteration of pinball to be mentioned in the first 100 replies because you suddenly found a pinball thread and aren't familiar with it.
CFTBL is the most overrated pinball table of all time.
>>2740271
>>2740271
Give us your reasoning behind that ludicrous statement
Thanks to the anon who mentioned this, quickly becoming one of my favourite titles on the 2600
What's the general opinion on the upcoming timeshock! table? Any ballpark estimates on its price?
>>2740282
He can't handle the extra 1/4" gap between the flippers and doesn't know the rules
>>2740660
about tree fiddy
>>2740661
It has a larger gap?
I had no idea, i mean, something like Fish Tales is noticeable as the flippers are slightly smaller but I never thought that Creature had a larger gap between the flippers than your average pin.
>>2740282
>Move Your Car is probably the easiest challenge in pinball history
>Snackbar is so full of random shite outside that its near impossible to hit
>Hologram, the "WOW" factor of the table pops up for two seconds
>Larger gap
>Not based on the ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE
>>2740271
>>2741643
I don't think it is an overrated table. Looking at the top 100 tables on pinside and I see a lot of shitty tables ranked higher than creature up there but at least you have reasons for not liking it.
As it is my all time favorite table though, let me offer some counterpoints to yours...
>Move Your Car is probably the easiest challenge in pinball history
Getting your car started isn't terribly difficult but you still need to hit the ball up there between the ramp and snack bar. The hard part is maximizing the score for it and being able to hit it up there quickly and consecutively.
>Snackbar is so full of random shite outside that its near impossible to hit
I don't fully understand this but snackbar can definitely be a hard shot if you are using the right flipper. Try backhanding it up the ramp to get to your left flipper for an easier shot.
>Hologram, the "WOW" factor of the table pops up for two seconds
Personally I find it is a really cool gimmick that doesn't interfere with the gameplay and fits with the art style and theme quite well.
>Larger gap
It sucks when it drains but I think this adds to the difficulty of the table and tests your nudging skills.
>Not based on the ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE
Come on, if you have played it you know its suppose to be a cheesy drive-in movie joke.
>>2741643
>Not based on the ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE
This again?
It is about the movie, it's also about GETTING to the movie by way of a classic 50's drive-in movie experience. It's a theme within a theme, after you rack up your points you start the movie then you're rescuing your chick from the creature, there's your mode based on the movie itself. It's pretty fucking ingenious the way it incorporated 50's teen rock n roll drive in culture with a licensed movie of the era.
There are shit-tons of just straight up movie licensed tables, CFTBL actually did something original and unique.
It's a fucking blast to play.
>>2739507
Still waiting, its my 7th try now
>>2741459
The Shadow might also but Creature definitely has the larger gap.
The rules are fairly cryptic. The bonus carries over but can reset to 2x from 6x since it also spots a FILM letter. FILM completed in sequence grants 8 million bonus. Start 2-ball multiball and you've got to find the Creature then rescue the girl then increase jackpots by spiraling around the vortex and somehow eventually get to Super Jackpots in the (snackbar?)
It's hard to tell where the FILM shots are on the table. You can cheese F by blowing slowly past the skill shot down to the left flipper. All sorts of things like that.
Lots going on in the game.
>>2741643
>he's never found the Creature
>>2742792
You can skillshot F by watching KISS light up and plunging back all the way at the right time. You should probably always do this on the first ball but if I mess up with spelling FILM in order I usually just just go for lighting PAID instead regardless of if I have L.
Snackbar is the hardest or most dangerous to get. For those not aware, you are trying to light all 4 blue targets in front of the snackbar scoop. Hitting pop bumpers will cycle which ones are lit and shootings the scoop will automatically light one. The scoop is definitely the safest but is hard to hit with the right flipper so I'll hit the targets on the left if they both aren't lit, otherwise I'll backhand it up the right ramp to the left flipper for the scoop.
>>2740604
It's almost as good looking as a 7800 game, but a 7800 would have been awesome.
>>2743284
Don't forget when the pervert creeps into your car as you start the third reel and you have to kick the shit out of him Punch Out style.
will we ever get another price crash?
i cant be spending $7000 for a pin
>>2745005
What are you eyeing? Which machines and which price tag.
>>2745020
I think a lot of people have tables like Twilight Zone and Medieval Madness on their dream lists, and those typically run that high
Setting my sights a bit lower, I'd be thrilled with a Power Play, Captain Fantastic, or Genie. I love the early SS era. Those seem to run around from 2-5k around here nowadays
I figure half of it is from being around NYC, and the other half is the market bubble.
>>2745038
new machines seem to cost that much, pretty brutal prices for old machines. I know, rare and sought after items and all that, but still
The artwork in your post is gorgeous
>>2745059
half of what makes a table good and memorable is an interesting theme
ive never been a fan of modern stern and their need to connect every table with whatever the flavor of the month is, but i guess that's what sells. in the short term, at least
not that licensed themes are automatically bad. i fuckin love the original KISS table. but did we really need another one in 2015?
I just tried to play Creature From the Black Lagoon on The Pinball Arcade and got this score on my first try. So much easier than a real machine.
>>2745145
Can you elaborate on the difference you experienced?
>>2745147
There are a lot of differences that add up but the two main things are how easy it is to nudge the ball the way you want and how strong the flippers are to launch the ball up the left ramp.
It's still a great way to learn the rules of a table though.
>tfw no love for the cocktail tables
>tfw next to impossible to play out in the wild
you guys like the zaccaria pinball app on android?
ive never seen a non-american table in person, so this is like the next best thing
>>2745005
Judge Dredd is $1800 all day
>>2745072
They're a manufacturing plant working with time-limited licenses, why would they care what sells once the license expires (other than what next thing sells)
>>2745072
Also all the songs on new KISS are re-recorded with half the original band members gone
And Big Lebowski will have no Creedence. Not even the fucking Eagles.
>>2745429
i got to play Lebowski when it had all the un-approved songs and art in it still. Shit was great, but they got in a shit ton of trouble for showing it like that
>>2745436
>>2745248
why were there no canadian pins
theyre like america jr
>>2745458
Canadian people just came to Chicago to work on pinball
>>2745248
>zaccaria pinball app
Awesome, didn't know of it. Installing now...
Is there a place to download Visual Pinball table packs or should i just get them one by one?
>>2745157
Yeah, I use Pinball Arcade to get familiar with rules while I play on my phone while taking the train to work or something. I go to a rad pinball arcade about half an hour away for the real deal.
>>2745707
Last thread had heaps of links n shit, too bad the archive is royally fucked
>>2745707
See the Mega.nz link in the first post. It has a download directory and shit.
>>2745215
Played a cocktail pin at a local pinball show during the summer. It was really odd, playing pinball sitting down.
Set a (rather sad) high score after just a couple games! It was only a bit over half the #1 score though...
tinyDOTcc/PhysMod5
WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARE
>>2746224
IF YOU SHOULD DIE BEFORE YOU WAKE...
>>2745147
>Can you elaborate on the difference you experienced?
Jesus christ how can you even need to ask this? Pinball arcades physics is shit and massively simplified over the real deal, irl you are dealing with variables of spin,bounce,speed changes etcetc with pinball arcade you are dealing with dumbed down everything and a preset nudge to abuse easily. You will never get better at pinball playing shitty pin arc. Pro pinball on the other hand you can learn a lot.
>>2746437
It's like you go out of your way to shit on Pinball Arcade every time it's mentioned.
>Pro pinball on the other hand you can learn a lot.
>implying you are going to learn anything besides rules on video game pinball.
And what good is that going to do for you if you can't play those games in real life?
>>2745692
This is an accurate depiction of pinball tournaments. Nothing but hot chicks wanting to be plunged.
>>2746792
Showing your ignorance once again, seriously if you for a second have to ask the difference between pin arc and real life you must be an absolute beginner. Fyi pro pinball has such good flipper physics it is very much transferable to real life, I play real machines every weekend and pro pinball in the week it makes a lot of difference. It isn't just about learning rules ffs do you even know any of the fundamental flipper skills? Stop being a clueless bastard.
>>2747298
>No reading comprehension
>doubling down on insults
>I'm a real pro, trust me
>>2747298
I wasn't the one asking what the difference was, I was the one explaining what the difference was here
>>2745157
That's nice you like pro pinball so much but flipper skills are basic and even then they vary from table to table. So yeah, I still think learning the rules to a table is more valuable then practicing your flipper skills on a video game.
>>2747298
>>2747332
The guy must have shares in Pro pinball to be shilling this hard
>>2748213
whats the deal with hitler
>>2748442
Holy shit, that really is him.
>>2748442
and is that Charles Manson in the back?
>>2748442
Artist Dave Christensen included in the backglass several depictions of people doing things that, at first, escaped notice by Bally management. A small number of games with these so-called "X-rated" or "uncensored" backglasses made it through production before changes were required to be made.
>>2748917
Well I hope they kept all the tits.
Have any New England Anons been to the Pinball Wizard Arcade in Pellham, NH? They've got like 200 pinball machines and a shitton of other retro arcade games, it's the fucking bomb. Highly reccomended.I seriously hope nobody ITT mistakes this post for advertising, it's just one of the only two arcades in New Hampshire that are worth a damn and it's highly underrated.
>>2749060
Yes, and I love the place. I'm upset that they got rid of their Black Lagoon table though. Their Groupon deal almost makes it ok though.
Anyone else excited to play the hobbit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMlu_DHW4g
>>2749067
When she gets rid of one it probably means it went to join the other copy in the back room for maintenance.
>>2749337
In 2021 when Keefer finishes the rules. The tale the rules will tell will still be inferior to LotR due to Hackson's ways.
>>2749494
What do you mean by Hackson's ways?
>>2749494
>>2749510
Oh nvm. Peter Jackson. Got it.
Yeah I definitely prefer LotR over Hobbit as movies, and greatly enjoy the LotR machine but if the Hobbit has the same quality and depth as WoZ (which it is looking like it does) I'll be happy.
If anything the Hobbit has to be better than the GoT table right?
>>2749494
be glad it's not a collection of 3 huge tables with nothing on them
>>2749556
I had to reach pretty high to get that kek, good anon, because it was all the way at the top.
>>2749556
good one
TLotR isn't even that good a table. Compare it to most of what Williams released in the 90's and it falls short.
A complicated rule set doesn't make a table a classic.
>>2749956
what makes a table a classic?
>>2749957Design,quality,originalityandgood craftsmanship
Some things many Stern tables are lacking
Trying to convert a VP6 table to VP9 AND rotating it too. Of course there's no option to rotate text boxes, so I guess that fake DMD is stuck that way.
>Check the forums
>someone is requesting a way to rotate text boxes
>Hurr yer dumb for wanting a simple feature, just use Reels instead
>Reels are totally different and require a completely different set of instruction
It sure would be nice if I knew what the fuck I was doing and had any goddamn clue how to program shit. I just want this super cool table rotated and updated with the newer features and physics.
>>2749961
you forgot the most important thing of all----- fun ----
>>2749956
>>2749961
I agree, except for I do enjoy LotR and see it as one of the few exceptions to Stern's usual garbage.
Almost all of their tables feel cheap and an uninspired cash in on licensing (see all their tables). Keefer definitely made some deep rules for them but it's wasted on shitty themes or bad table design so it's nice he's with JJP now.
>>2750370
A place I frequent here in Sydney has nothing but Stern tables, the first time I walked in I was excited to see the LotR table due to its reputation but I find myself playing and enjoying the other Sterns more.
The Star Trek LE is absolutely beautiful and feels solid and well made. The best table Stern has produced?
I think Spiderman is a great table and better than Rings.
Metallica I didn't like at first despite being a fan, but it's grown on me and I think playing the LE improved my opinion of it.
X-Men, another that I disliked but with time grown to really enjoy.
Maybe because I was never a Tolkien fan or something. I know I'm being harsh on it but it has such a high rep and I can't get into it and it does feel like another "cheap Stern"
>>2749961
The first three are kind of "hazy" words. Can you be a bit more precise? Not trolling either, I'm really curious if there are aspects that can make or break a table, or at least put a table above others.
>>2750417
Star Trek LE is definitely my other favorite Stern and does feel solid and well made. And I'm not a fan of the show.
Metallica and ACDC aren't that great in my opinion but don't feel as cheap as a lot of the other ones. KISS isn't too bad either if you've had a chance to play it. Spiderman I don't care for and X-Men is straight up terrible though.
Lots of people seem to like Tron but I haven't been able to get into it.
>>2750682
Not him but I would consider quality and good craftsmanship to be basically the same thing. Originality could be applied to the theme (so not stern) but also table layout, toys, or other gimmicks that haven't been seen before. Design could be artwork or design of the table and how it all flows together. That's how I would define them but maybe they meant something else.
>>2750740
I figured craftsmannship is the physical precision of the table, while quality is something regarding its layout, rules, consistency of theme, loose stuff like that? While design is more about the creativity involved, I suppose. As I said, these terms seem hazy to me, so I'm looking for a bit more info
So i'm trying to set up Visual Pinball on my father's PC that has a 1920x1080 monitor but when i try to change the screen options the max resolution that VP shows is 1280x720,is there a way to pick different resolutions?
>>2751119
What version are you using?
>>2750726
Tron is good looking table but I just don't think the "flow" is there. The positioning of the ramps and pops seem a bit odd.
Everyone acting like Sterns are built in an inferior manner should complain to Churchill Custom Cabinets / Chicago Gaming Company since they make all the playfields and cabinets and artwork for all Bally / Williams / Data East / modern Stern pins to this day.
Of course, it's the same method and materials and quality that B/W tables had. But people can't understand deep rules so they hate Stern and say the tables are cheap.
>>2751969
Who the fuck assembles them then, the pinball fairies?
Who is responsible for the electronics?
How about we blame the fucking trees for providing Stern with inferior wood for their pinball tables?
Industries change and so do their methods, you can't compare the current manufacturing to what it was 20 years ago.
Fuck off Gary, the quality on your Stern tables is fucking apparent.
>>2741643
>Doesn't taste like FUCKING APPLES
>>2749067
I was really disappointed they took their Black Hole game off the floor. The place is great though.
>>2751969
>I read this article http://www.flippers.be/pinball_playfields.html and you guys are dumb because Stern is the same quality
>But people can't understand deep rules so they hate Stern and say the tables are cheap.
Oh that must be the reason. I should go back to playing games from the 70s where the build quality was better... I mean the same... and I can understand the rules.
How about you compare the two Indiana Jones games?
>>2752018
You fucking nigger it's still the same kind and grade of birch it's always been. LEARN TO READ faggit
>>2752064
Mark Ritchie was just a screwdriver guy, no game of his can be anything other than shit unless the Great Python Anghelo is involved.
>>2752361
Go back to bed, Python, you're dead. And probably drunk.
Hm, never considered emulating pinball before (besides a bunch of classics collections released on consoles) but you guys have intrigued me with Visual pinball 10/ physmod5.
Also stuck in Toronto and they closed down the pinball room at union station years ago. Life is pain. Although not TOO far away we have http://www.thechurchofthesilverball.com/index.htm
>>2752359
>He thinks it's just the wood that makes a table cheap.
No, it's the cheap plastics, toys, and bare minimum that Stern puts out.
>>2752361
I don't care who designed it. If you played both tables, one feels like a cheap piece of shit but I guess you couldn't tell since they are of the same quality.
>>2752584
.
>that fucking Jagger target
Do they even playtest tables before they release them?
At least Stern can build a pinball machine designed to last. Unlike Jersey Hack.
>>2753957
>>2752584
Holy shit you actually brag about dropping money into a Stern IJ
Stumbled onto this thread on a local arcade forum i'm on.
http://www.aussiearcade.com.au/showthread.php/55269-Pinball-Adventure-Shed-Stash
Don't cry, There is a happy ending at the end.
>>2754476
Yeah I'm not signing in to some backwater forum just to read your shit faggot
Reminder that Europe pinball > US pinball
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>>2758078
sup
>>2715267
I might get this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinball-Hall-of-Fame-The-Williams-Collection-Nintendo-Wii-2008/252135865596
>>2758283
>looking up some pinball machines
>"this game is LIGHTNING FAST!"
>watch a video of it
>it grabs the ball and hold it to play a voice clip and flash lights
>kicks it out after a few seconds
>this happens after every-other shot
Why can't machines be more simple? I don't care about the gimmicks. I want the ball to keep rolling.
>>2761589
What game are you referring to? I agree sometimes it can really slow the game down but I think the idea is for the game to allow you to look at the screen and tell you about a mode or something happening.
>>2761713
Probably Whitewater.I hate that kickback too.
>>2761589
>I want the ball to keep rolling.
You are probably better suited to older tables them particularly EMs.
>>2762958
They have holes though
http://www.pinballarcade.com/TablePacks/
So if I wanted to get a table pack for my Pinball Arcade, which season was best? Keep in mind I'm just a pinball casual.
>>2763641
I'm not familiar with how the table packs work. Is this the phone version of the game? I thought you just buy them by season but I guess I would get 1>2>4>3>10 to start
>>2763641
The best tables are generally front-loaded towards the earliest packs. The earlier packs are also the best value, because that's before Farsight realized they frontloaded their tables and jacked up the prices. Go with Table Pack 1 and 2, then you'll probably want to pick and choose individual tables from there.
PROTIP: don't buy an individual table until you consistently hit the trial score. If you suck, you play free forever!
>>2763641
If you're playing on an android device...
Can't let the pinball thread drain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1TZQq6v2BA
>>2766552
Does he only have one arm?
>>2766721
No, he is one of the best pinball players in the world. In the full video he is explaining how to play Tommy and after doing so he played a ball with one hand just for fun.
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