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I liked ORAS more than XY
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>>27220316
That's not a controversial opinion.
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>>27220316
I think everyone did.

>Gen 6 is better than gen 1
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>>27220316
ORAS is the definitive gen 6 game anon.
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That's pretty standard OP. It was better than XY.

Black & White, and Black & White 2 were both terrible
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>>27220334
>>Gen 6 is better than gen 1
This isn't a controversial opinion at all.
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>>27220316
That's not really controversial. Try being like me in thinking ORAS was better than Emerald
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Zoroark is actually a pretty cool Pokemon
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Chesnaught looks really good
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>>27220316
So did I
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>>27220358
I agree, anon.
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Amour is cancer
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I think B/W and B2/W2 are the best Pokemon games only behind Emerald.
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The black & white games sucked
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HGSS > ORAS > PLATINUM > XY > BW2 DP > EMERALD > BW > CRYSTAL > GS > RS > FRLG > RBY
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>>27220316
In the long run, Rescue Team is 'eh'. Unless you know what you're doing, you will be cucked, and it did questionable things.

Explorers revised everything and made it hundredfold more enjoyable.
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>>27220316
HGSS aren't that good
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Gens 4 and 5 sucked
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>>27220416
*BW2 > DP
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>>27220316
I like Klinklang, Garbodor and Vanilluxe in a non-contrarian way.
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>>27220446
I genuinely like the entire Vanillite line.
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>>27220446
I can agree about Vanilluxe
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>>27220316
That isn't controversial.

ORAS was better, but gets judged more harshly because it hit our childhood almost as hard as the Delta Episode's meteor would have. ORAS let a little cube of charcoal roll down its pant leg, which fell into the Running Shoes we got in RSE. X and Y just shat their own pants, even if they shat more outright, the damage was contained to the X and Y underpants.
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>>27220417
All of that is true, but Rescue Team should still get props for the Post Game. Almost every dungeon had a mini-story attached, whether the Eon twins, or Lobre almost drowning in Kyogre's dungeon, or the quick little scene before you got access to the Silver Trench. Later games, especially Super, could have learned a thing or two from this.
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>>27220316
Hoenn is one of the best regions (judging ONLY the region), and that includes the water routes fuck their pokemon variety tho.
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I prefer ORAS to Emerald.
I have no problems with speed in 4th gen games.
Meganium is my favourite starter.
5th gen starters are my second favourite set of starters.
I like concept of baby Pokemon but I'm tired of mega Pokemon.
I prefer having shitton of legendaries (4th/5th gen) than very little amount of legendaries (1th/6th gen).
And the most controversial: I actually like every main Pokemon game.

>>27220334
Well, if we are only talking about main games it's hardly an opinion. RBY are buggy, broken games with less content.
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I've never played Mystery Dungeon, and I never will

BW has the worst music of the series.
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I think zoroark and lucario are actually cool pokémon. I like them in a non furry way.
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>>27220343
>>27220358
>>27220416
>>27220428
Horrid
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I like BW more than B2W2.
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Generation 5 is indisputably the best generation.
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Between Platinum, HG/SS, and the DP ashnime, I liked gen 4.

Vanilluxe is a fucking bro. Dat ice body + hail + blizzard sweeps for days. So what if it's "lol literally just ice cream." He pulled me through the E4 and motherfucking Ghetsis and his bullshit Hydreigon.

I unironically enjoyed the pokemon ranger series.
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>>27220767
>that pic
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>>27220833
Thanks, I feel sad now.
>W2B2 arc never ever continuing
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I think the more contreversal opinion around here is that XY was more fresh and innovative than ORAS could have ever been.
That's just my opinion though. Both games have the pitfall of being too easy, but at least XY brought a lot of new things ascetically to the table. ORAS was just the same thing, old location, and almost put me to sleep.
Then again, I played Sapphire for like, 150 hours through my teen years, so I'm probably just tired of Honnen in general.
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Sinnoh a best.

I don't hate Flygon but I still hope it NEVER EVER gets a mega.

Mega Evolutions are shit.

Fairy is ridiculously unbalanced.
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i like zinnia
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RSE>GSC>RBY>DPPt
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>>27220316
None of the gen 1 starter's final evos are particularly well designed.
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>>27221549
FUCK YOU
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Gen 5 had the best games, followed by all the games in Gen 3. X/Y are the worst games in the series, barely being shittier than R/B/Y.
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>>27221757
FORGOT IMAGE
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>>27220416
I disagree, but this isn't too bad.

>>27220417
I loved Red Rescue Team to death and never felt the need to play Explorers. I probably will one day.

>>27221036
Probably the most legit controversial opinion here. A shit one but still.
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>>27221757
I think Clover is messing up. It's supposed to be the image of Venusaur racing for a bag of doritos
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>>27221549
This. I only picked Bulbasaur because I hate the Venusaur line slightly less than the others.
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>>27220316
They should reuse legendaries for new games.
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>>27220316
Gates to Infinity>Explorers of Sky
Mega evolution is the best thing to happen to pokemon since the physical/special split
Fairy type was an unmitigated failure on all fronts
XY>ORAS
Having gen 5 pokemon only for BW1 before the credits was a great decision
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>>27220955
>I don't hate Flygon but I still hope it NEVER EVER gets a mega.

faggot
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>>27220687
>I prefer having shitton of legendaries (4th/5th gen) than very little amount of legendaries (1th/6th gen).

you're awful
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>>27221795
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All eeveelutions are shit
RBE is terrible and second worst after Gen 6.
Legendaries should never come back.
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RBY
>The best region flow i.e. traveling feels the best
>Pokedex ordering is perfect
>Best wild pokemon distribution

GSC
>Best spritework in the series. Crystal was fantastic.
>Best gym leaders
>Having all three beasts roam was a stupid idea
>Team Rocket is more interesting than in Gen I
>Bug Catching Contest is fun
>Kanto execution is great
>Most memorable locations
>Worst additions to the pokedex
>Baby pokemon were a mistake
>No baby Khan
>Worst E4

RSE
>story is particularly awful, worst in the series
>Best execution of legendary encounters, by far. Regi quest is amazing, Deoxys encounter is nerve racking. Running into Lati@s is shit-your-pants exciting. Finding Rayquaza is just awesome.
>Worst gym leaders
>Horrible regional pokedex ordering
>Emerald's animations were atrocious, Crystal's were actually properly animated with more frames
>Double battles were fun, better additions than abilities and new IV/EV system. Underutilized
>Best pokemon designs in the series
>Two bike system is awful
>Ruined fishing
>Fixed competitive
>Mystery Gift was a mistake. Events are awful and ruined legendaries.
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DPP
>Best metagame
>Most uneventful single player
>Best rival though
>Worst region design
>Best route design
>Underground was amazing and should be brought back
>Best Post-Game
>Worst legendaries
>Arceus was a mistake
>Worst starters
>Most replayability
>Worst music
>Best champion

BW/B2W2
>Picking New York for the first non-Japan region was a mistake
>No old pokemon until post-game was a good choice
>Sprite animation system is impressive. Not as aesthetic as Crystal, but it's nice.
>Triple and Rotation battles were the greatest additions to gameplay, and they were fun.
>T/R battles should have been at least half the battles in the game. Severely underutilized.
>Best villain by far
>CWT was amazing. Under appreciated.
>Comical use of black people
>Best story
>Vanilluxe line is fine
>Best professor

XY
>Worst """"""""""rivals""""""""""
>Worst character designs in general
>Best starters
>Mega evolutions were a mistake
>Mewtwo gets two Megas
>Lumiose was a mistake
>Wonder trading was a mistake
>Fairy was a mistake
>Older gen pokemon are not revamped for the current meta. Gamefreak has dropped the ball on balance and this is the worst it's ever been. Showdown is the only place you can have fun.
>Chansey isn't a fairy
>Fishing is the best it's ever been
>Shiny chaining is awesome
>Catching them all feels the best in this gen
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>>27220316
ORAS is better than XY though.

Gen 4's starters are the best, look-wise and game-wise.
Gen 2's starters are all bland and terrible.
BW2 are the best in the series.
HGSS was just ok.
Sinnoh is the best region.
EXP Share in Gen 6 is really cool and I hope it returns.
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>>27221999
At least it gives you something to do in the post game. It's not the best idea but it's better than nothing.
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Gen 1 isn't actually an irredeemable piece of shit like 99% of the board believes just because later games improved on the formula
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>>27222122
Kinda prefer GSC rival.
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>>27222181
XY had more beautiful places imo. Also, the music was great.
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>>27220316
I play GO___ but hate the people constantly posting about it here.
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>>27222122
>>Arceus was a mistake

Actually, I think Arceus was a good thing, albeit in an odd way.

Since gen 1, Pokemon kept one-upping itself with the new, most powerful pokemon. Look back at, say, Lugia. Lugia is nothing special now, it got out "most powerfull'd" by Groudon and Kyogre, who got outdone by Fug, who got topped by Palkia and Dialga. Arceus was GF saying "fuck that noise", throwing up their hands and saying "There, here's God. Nothing we ever do will be more powerful conceptually, so now we can focus on more interesting features for legendaries."

Arceus is kinda meh in itself, but for the series it was a powerful statement.
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IV's are a shitty mechanic because it makes the bar of entry for trying out a new pokemon very high. You can do wild pokemon variety better with random EV's

>>27221549
This.
>frog with a flower
>turtle that grew cannons out of nowhere
>fat wannabe dragon that grew wings out of nowhere
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>>27222098
>>27222122

>Best spritework in the series. Crystal was fantastic.
>Best gym leaders
>Team Rocket is more interesting than in Gen 1
>Bug Catching Contest is fun
>Kanto execution is great
>Most memorable locations

>story is particularly awful, worst in the series
>Emerald's animations were atrocious, Crystal's were actually properly animated with more frames
>Double battles were fun, better additions than abilities and new IV/EV system. Underutilized
>Two bike system is awful

>Most uneventful single player
>Worst region design
>Best route design
>Best champion

>No old pokemon until post-game was a good choice
>Sprite animation system is impressive. Not as aesthetic as Crystal, but it's nice.
>T/R battles should have been at least half the battles in the game. Severely underutilized.
>Best villain by far
>CWT was amazing. Under appreciated.

>Worst """"""""""rivals""""""""""
>Worst character designs in general
>Best starters
>Mega evolutions were a mistake
>Mewtwo gets two Megas
>Lumiose was a mistake
>Older gen pokemon are not revamped for the current meta. Gamefreak has dropped the ball on balance and this is the worst it's ever been. Showdown is the only place you can have fun.

I generally agree with all these.

>Comical use of black people
Is this an insult or a compliment?
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>>27223220
>Is this an insult or a compliment?
Compliment. I'm a spic, if it matters.
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>>27223289
It doesnt matter to me so that's cool. I cant say I'm not happy with the wider range of characters.

You also finally put to words my thoughts on Sinnoh. It's a shit region with great routes. best way to put it.
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>>27220316

Ash's journey will end in a few seasons, and a new journey will begin starring the kid of Jesse and James
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>>27223537
There have been many flash backs of James and Jesse as kids
And a flash back episode when they met at team rocket hq
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>>27220316
Mimikkyu sucks
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>>27222020
das it
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>>27223575

I mean Jesse and James have a kid together and that kid is the star of the new show

Explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLl5MviojM
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I think Gen 5 has the best sprites of the series
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>>27220316
Super mystery dungeon is an overrated bad game
Short routes are better than your #14386 generic cave
I like to grind in pokemon
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>>27223707
i agree
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>>27220316
Pokemon is a fun game series and I'm fine with it going on as long as they're about the same level of quality.

I also wouldn't mind a hard reboot with no previous mon pre or post game.

>>27220361
My brother.
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>>27220316
I liked ORAS more than any Gen 4 or 5 game.
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>>27223707
When they're still and not zoomed in, they're definitely the best.
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I always like the newest game best.

Please don't shoot me.
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>>27223575
Link pls
Preferably Nihongo
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This is the only overrated pokemon game
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Colosseum and XD should be rereleased in HD without any updated Pokemon or mechanics.
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>>27220446
I also like those 3.
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>Gen VI is my favorite Generation
>My top 3 Pokemon games are XY, ORAS and HGSS
>XY was the most fun I've had with Pokemon since Gen II
>I think Gens I and II are both better than Gen V

>mfw my honest opinions trigger like 95% of /vp/
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>>27220316
Magmar is one of my favorite gen 1 designs. He's great.
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>>27224888
Waddaya think about hus evo? I this his magby and magmar are great but the evolution they added gen iv is a little goofy to me
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>>27225219
I like him. The only gen 4 cross gen evo I don't really fancy is Rhyperior but I'm not alone in that thought.
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>>27222098
>>27222122
I don't agree with everything you said (naturally), but I think you got great opinions and good taste.
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>>27222122
>Wonder trading was a mistake
>Fairy was a mistake
>Showdown is the only place you can have fun.
Literally just kill yourself
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>>27220316
I actually really like the elemental monkeys.
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i like... pokemon
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>>27222033
> RBE

Red, Blue, and Emerald?
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>>27224860
I agree with most of your post. Gen VI is fun and comfy as hell. People here tend to fling shit at it, but ignore the good points.
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>>27224735
I'd rather just have a sequel. Or just a new console game, really.
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>>27223537
>>27223669

B A S E D
A
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>>27222122
>Worst """"""""""rivals""""""""""
Good Lord, this. I hated those obnoxious cunts so much. Games should never have "friendships" this forced. I can't say they ruined the game for me, but they sure tried.
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>>27225888
same but i think the panpour line looks like shit compared to the other two
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Stop the power creep. Mega Evolutions need to be removed
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>>27222122
>implying DPP didn't have the best music
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>All these replies

Guess I'm the contrarian here, I liked XY better than ORAS
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XY has a far more enjoyable story and characters than BW1
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>>27230199
Don't worry anon, I did too
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>>27230233
I think they both had pretty flat, shallow characters.
Both got on my nerves though, because both had NPCs constantly interrupt and take control of the player just to waste the player's time and give you pointless, forgettable information.
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Gen 6 had the best overworld. Kalos is both huge and has very few areas that feel extraneous. It's quite beautiful as well. Meanwhile, Hoenn felt like an actual landmass and was a ton of fun to get lost in.

Gen II sucked. Bad Pokemon, horrific level progression, half if Johto's routes are stubs and Kanto's been thoroughlt neutered, and the story is very meh. HGSS did fix some of this, but not the level curve, which drags the whole experience down.

Fairies are a great addition, due in no small part in giving Poison, one of my favorite types, something to do. Megas kinda suck, though, and should be thoroughly retooled in Sun and Moon.
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Sceptile is the best starter.
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Platinum is barely better than DP which was already fine. There's actually some minor things I like more in DP related to presentation. If it had Platinum's regional dex and encounterable Pokemon but otherwise was the same I'd play Pearl over Platinum any day.
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>>27220417
...I am suddenly reconsidering getting every mon in the Mystery Dungeon games
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>>27220316
GSC are the best games of the series
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>>27222367
I think Arceus' execution was the mistake, if anything. It should have been absurd and uncatchable, or had something in the lore explaining that the one you can battle and own is just a speck of its power, something along the lines of, "See this? We may top it stat wise one day. It won't care because it knows nothing can stand up to its full strength"
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>>27230670
I just assume that is the case and "Arceus" is just one of the thousand hands
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>>27230447
I like Kalos' over world, but I wouldn't call it huge. It had pretty short routes too outside Mamoswine Walk and the Daycare Route.
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