Is Dragonite a good wall?

>>27189453
He can be a decent Toxic staller with Roost and Dragon Tail, but the existence of Clefable and Mega Diancie kinda ruins his life. You're better off just going offensive with him.

Fatmence is usually better as a defensive pivot with intimidate, and access to Defog (although I didn't check if Dragonite had access to defog and I wouldn't be surprised if it did)

>>27189453
He isn't bad, but if going off of tiers he really can't wall well in an OU environment. He doesn't have the raw bulk of Lugia to take >50% from SE hits, even through multiscale, and that 4x weakness means he can easily get OHKO's even through multiscale. It also doesn't wall as well as many other dedicated walls in the tier.

If you are using Showdown, Salamence is simply better, since it does everything Dragonite does, but isn't crippled by non-full health. Also, it gets access to Wish via ultra-obscure event status giving it more support options.

Dragonite can certainly be a tank, but it lacks the raw bulk and typing to be a good wall. It's doable if you absolutely must, but you have to control hazards and keep an eye out for anything that looks like it might have an Ice move.

>>27189453
I wouldn't use it as a wall, but it is quite tanky

>>27189453
I used it with some success in gen 5.
Roost
Thunderwave
Substitute
Dragon Tail
It would probably not be so good this gen though, thanks to fairies. Plus I'm pretty sure everything hits harder now.

>>27189453
>Rocks will destroy dragonite
>M-Dianice will destroy dragonite
>Toxic destroys multiscale
Dragonite has seen much better days. I wouldn't really even consider using it as OU is filled with better mons

>>27190373
Dragonite works amazingly with a Weakness Policy set, but otherwise has just been outclassed by Dragon Type Pseudos over the years. Salamence sets up better, Garchomp is stronger and more versatile off the bat, and while not a pseudo, Mega Zard X has better typing. Multiscale is really all Dragonite has going for it nowadays, and Weakness policy is the only way to really use it.

>>27190447
>Multiscale is really all Dragonite has going for it nowadays, and Weakness policy is the only way to really use it.
Multiscale + Extremespeed makes it a great Choice Band user though. And weakness policy is dealt with caution nowadays anyway.

>>27190134

Salamence also gets wish through some events, but then you run into weird moveset compatibility issues. It'd be great if it just became an egg move :/