Which gen had the best meta?
I vote 4
>>27095462
>weather
>best
>>27095475
>thinking gen 4 is weather
gen 5 was weather wars
>>27095475
Gen 5 was weather
>>27095462
4 post garchomp
choose between
lol critical psychic the meta
skarmbliss stall the meta
zzzzzzzz trumpets
scizor the meta
weather wars
priority wars
I kind of liked weather wars and stealth rock.
>>27095546
>scizor the meta
Once the last ban went through (salamence) scizor fell in usage and wasn't even top 5 anymore.
Gen 4 had the best meta. I miss no team preview.
Gen 4 Post-Mence
>>27095546
I like how Gen 3 had no meta, only trumpets
what exactly is the weakness of team preview? like. I see people saying they miss the days before it but what made it better than no team preview?
>>27095462
Gen 4, post Hynosis fix.
>>27095650
Team Preview killed "Lead" Pokemon.
Are there people that play 1,2,3 competitively?
If not now, somewhat recently?
>>27095650
You had to piece together the opponents team and figure out what they were hiding based on what the rest of the team was weak to.
You could also throw in a wildcard in some slot and you're opponent would be none the wiser you had "x" threat waiting to sweep him in the back.
>>27095617
Gen 3 was literally Baton Pass: The meta.
>>27095650
The entire dynamic of the game and your choices changes when you have no idea what pokemon they have until you use them. For instance, if someone has a heatran, you're likely not going to just be letting lose with fire attacks or if you have volcarona, you're not going to just be setting up if you know a talonflame is just waiting. It's like asking why do people not show their hands while playing poker. For obvious reasons
>>27095685
gen 3 is still played by people for a few smogon tournaments
>>27095462
I would say gen 3 if Skarmory and Blissey didnt exist.
>meta
Literally what?
>>27095650
It killed "Lead" as a role for things that weren't suicide leads, made win conditions easier to implement, and eliminated the element of surprise when teambuilding.
Plus it robbed Zoroark of its one true place.
>>27095727
Hi! You must be here for GO. :)
>>27095727
disgusting
>>27095727
>Literally what?
Try actually playing the game, nerd
>>27095727
GO player detected
4
4 would be perfect if it wasn't for scizor/heatran
So which gen had the worst meta?
As much as I hate gen 6 ou, I don't think it can possibly get any worse than gen 5.
what the fuck was gen 3's meta? I never played 1-3 competitively but know 1 and 2
>>27097481
1
By far
>>27095462
Gen 6.
>>27095727
How embarrassing.
>>27095727
The meta is, in simple terms, whats popular in competitive play.
In not simple terms, the metagame is using outside resources to determine what you do inside a game. This applies to any competitive gaming scene by knowing whats commonly used and therefore making decisions on that fact. In Pokemon, the meta is what type of teams and what mons are commonly used together on. For example, in today's meta Charizard-y could be popular, so people run stealth rock to try and counter it. Tomorrow Charizard-y could be no where so people would stop using stealth rock to counter it.
>>27098112
>explaining terms to a goposter
Might s will just gouge out your eyes right now senpai
GEN 6 BEFORE ORAS!
Either gen 2 or gen 3
>>27095546
>skarmbliss stall the meta
You should try actually playing gen 2.
I remember 4 being nothing but Sandstorm teams. If Gen 5 was weather wars, Gen 4 was weather tyranny, where anyone who didn't lead with a T-Tar or Hippowdon had to trudge through wave after wave of copypaste Sand teams.
Anyway I'd say the best compatitve meta isnone. Competitve Pokemon isn't fun, and GF certainly isn't helping with their terrible mega distrubution and continuing to create things like Lando-T.
4 let me throw in Dynamic Punch almost willy nilly so that
Gen V added all sorts of bullshit meme abilitites, so gen 4 I guess.
>lead scarfed explosion azelf
>no team preview
Gen 4
http://www.strawpoll.me/10719636
Seriously what was the gen 3 meta like
>>27095758
>>27095820
go back to your basements, autistic fedora edgelords.
>>27098303
fuck off
>>27098573
>exposed
>starts calling names
>>27095650
I wish Team Preview was optional
>>27095744
zoroark is probably the reason it was introduced
>>27098573
>in a site about chinese cartoons for autistic fedora edgelords
>calls people autistic fedora edgelords
Pokémon GO fuck yourself
>>27098648
>give pokemon gimmicky but interesting ability
>nerf gimmick in the same gen pokemon was introduced
why does Gamefreak hate edgefox?
>>27098538
Special attacks and baton passing
>>27098538
baton pass and boltbeam
Gen 4 meta was objectively the best. It was the first gen where most Pokemon actually had four usable moves, the new items added a lot of competitive depth, and the physical/special split really changed things up.
Also, Team Preview sucks and really made competitive play less interesting.
>all these faggots saying gen IV was good
muh rose tinted glasses
Scizor, Heatran and Tyranitar: The Meta, with a generous side helping of Gyarados and Gengar
It was objectively no better than weather warsgen VI is the closest to a properly balanced OU meta we've ever been
>>27098809
here's your reply
In order:
2: long paced games, actually killing stuff requires long term thinking, no win buttons. It's comparable to a game of chess and very skill intensive
4: usually considered the best, really diverse and the mix of viable offense and no team preview leads to interesting games where knowlegable players get rewarded
1: Yeah I know, muh mechanics muh luck. But rby basically boils down to the better player winning due to no team matchup being present, it really shows who is good at predictions, endgame scenarios and possibility calcs.
3: hugely centralized too but the games tend to drag out long making them pretty skill intensive. Trapping adds an interesting component to it, some hate that though.
5: people hate weather wars but I think they add an interesting strategic component to the game. Unbanning exca was nice and sand balance with spikes isn't broken anymore. Many threats though and there's many games that get decided on team matchup.
6: actually not as bad as I always thought but the meta feels sorta balanced right now. I dislike that there are so many threats and checking everything is just virtually impossible, leading to matchup wins quite often.
>>27095727
This Meta :^)
>>27099122
>there are so many threats and checking everything is just virtually impossible
Really the only thing that takes away from my enjoyment in the current meta
>>27098809
Gen 4 was my least favorite gen for several reasons, but even I admit it had the best competitive play.
And no, it's not nostalgia. I started competitive play with Gen II, and I played online with Netbattle in Gen III.
Gen 4 was shit but the exploding lead meta was great.