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>ability requires a significant amount of HP to be lost for it to activate
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Yeah, I'm wondering why GF is trying to force this meme.
First Zygarde and now Drampa.
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>>26935176
>either have a sweeper stat spread and die in one hit and never get the boost
>or have a defensive spread so you can boost your terrible attack stats and tickle them a little harder

its pretty poorly thought out unless you are a legend and can just have every stat be good
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>>26935226
>First Zygarde and now Drampa.
>Zygarde
You mean Darmanitan.
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>>26935176
>Use RestoChesto
>Use SubSalac
Wow how awful
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>>26935339
That was two generations ago, this is two Pokémon in a very short timespan. Not to say that one isn't equally bad.
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With Drampa, he can heal and then be knocked to below 50% again and then gain even more power boosts.
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>>26935385
>have to run some shitty niche set and use up an item slot to make the ability work
Wow, great!!
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As long as he has a healing move, this is an actual good ability
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git gud
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>>26935226
Berserk is literally a free Gluttony+Petaya. Drampa looks like it's going to be quite slow so it won't be too hot but that's still a really good ability.
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>>26935419
>I have to use items to realize the full potential of a Pokemon
WOAH how awful
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>>26935419
>niche set

SubCoil Zygarde is the most popular actually. Also, it gets 50% of its HP back, that alone is god tier.
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>>26935419

>if it's not choice item/LO/lefties it's niche
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Anger Point is the worst offender 2bh.
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>>26935339
You mean Overgrow, Blaze, Torrent and Swarm?
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>>26935828
Huh. Nobody uses those abilities either. Hot Monkey Dik aside.
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>>26935176
But I don't want it activated.
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>>26935841
sub peteya empoleon?
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>>26935176
substitute
sitrus berry
belly drum
sp att belly drum pls
focus sash
etc

There are gimmicks that work with it but they are all gimmicks
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Unless Zygarde doesn't gain speed when it changes forms, it's pretty damn good tbqh
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>>26935929
FUCK YOU GAMEFREAK
WHY?
WHYYYYYY?
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It's gonna have 1200 bst to make up for it. Just watch :^)
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>>26936968
>>26937090
Healing Wish Latias new Meta
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>>26937027
It has an alternative ability tho
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>>26935257
>sweeper build with focus sash

wow it's fucking nothing.
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Guys...Zygarde gets pain split
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Drampa possibly will have Slack Off.
Hyper Voice, Dragon Pulse and other thing like Fire Blast. It could work.
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>>26937349
Gross. The ability does autoheal it though by the way. And will presumably make it pretty fast to immediately take advantage of its boost so it doesn't really matter that it's not full health. That's what makes stuff like Swarm not very good, and Zen Mode was bad because it switched from a fast attacker to a slow tank at lowered HP which makes no sense role-wise.
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>>26937349
Doesn't do much. If it ges below half, the form change will heal 2016 HP at Level 100. It will have >300 HP after the change in any real scenario.
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>>26937730
216 not 2016 of course, sorry.
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pResto Chesto, your team just got swept!
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>>26935176
Pfff Tapu Koko is the truth.
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>>26935339
>needing Zen mode ever
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>>26935385
Or if it's fast or has great bulk, weakness policy on top of the ability boost
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>>26935339
>You mean Darmanitan.
you mean archen & archeops as well
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>>26935929
post yfw it has stakeout as a hidden ability
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I mean, the starter abilities at least vaguely make sense.

It's a desperation ability to make fighting with your starter seem more dramatic. Origins made that clear.
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>>26937893
>>26935339

I seriously hope they fix zen mode this gen. They should just make it an actual form or it activates like a Primal form.
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>>26935385
>SubSalac
Is this even viable anymore? The last time I saw someone use this effectively was back in DPPt.
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>>26941015
OR, it still activates after 50% HP loss, but Darmanitan stays in Zen Mode, and give it Recover.
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>>26935432
>git gud
>literally have to fail at keeping your pokemon at decent health for it to work

More like git shit
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>>26935176
good
all of them will be used in the next vgc anyway
sitrus berry or something else and enjoy zygarde and other regional mons

also sub
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