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fuck talonflame
![5256487-Large-trigger-fish-showing-off-it-s-Huge-teeth-in-Fiji--Stock-Photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CyzCskz.jpg "5256487-Large-trigger-fish-showing-off-it-s-Huge-teeth-in-Fiji--Stock-Photo[1].jpg")
The real life fish that it's based on is uglier
I LOVE YOU SMUGFISH
>>26925530
Its real name is. ...trigger fish?
>>26925550
Yes, it's called a triggerfish
I unironically think this is the best design for a fish Pokemon that we've ever gotten.
>>26925530
Better image
>>26925579
Same, I honestly don't get why everyone hates it, it's a really fresh and unique design. Plus you can nickname it Kardashian
>>26925727
Make it Karsplashian, for the sake of a water/fish pun
check your priority
>>26925482
so why is it supposed to fuck over talonflame?
>>26925796
>Triggerfish
>Priority killer
>Bright colorés
POTTERY
Press f to pay respect
>>26925806
Negates Brave Bird. If this thing has halfway decent offensive stats it should be able to switch in and deal with Tflame.
![c4c[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/zSdmPWo.gif "c4c[1].gif")
>>26925806
Ability blocks priority moves
>>26925929
now will that include ability priorities too, and how will this effect the meta?
Post yfw this fish is actuallyNFE
Andit can only get stronger
>>26925920
No it can't. Talonflame will definitely be faster and just u turn out out of it.
>>26925929
Bruxish?
>>26925989
>its ability gets replaced
>>26925994
Bruxing is excessive teeth grinding
Fish is fish
>>26926000
>81 attack
>non stab
if the fish has halfway decent bulk u turn aint gonna do shit
>>26925989
>Exaggeratedly feminine-looking Water-type Pokemon.
>Uses a lure on its head like an anglerfish to draw in prey and then dazzle them.
>Evolves into an even more sensual creature and becomes the Pokemon equivalent to a siren.
>>26925994
>Bruh + xis + fish
>>26926000
Only the Choice Band set runs U-Turn, and Choice Band Talonflame is dog shit
>>26926027
the one in the preview was MALE though
>>26926053
>implying that's not the point
>>26926025
It doesn't matter, it isn't dealing with it very well if it's just switching, taking a hit, and leaving the bravest bird to fly away for another day.
>>26926058
Did you even ask xim whether xe identifies as male?
>>26926070
>bravest bird
>fleeing like faggot
>>26926058
Its the tumblr pokemon, are you implying it isnt trans
>>26925981
>how will this effect the meta?
By fucking it in the ass.
I have a feeling this fucker is going to be great in doubles (read: the only thing that actually matters).
>>26925981
>yfw it works for your partner in doubles
>>26926070
>They make a new ability that prevents switching moves from working.
>>26926132
>it's an ice special sweeper
>Lando-t vanishes
>>26926122
If it stops priority moves from working period and not just damage dealing ones that affect, holy shit that's insanium in the cranium in doubles.
>>26925993
>forcing talonflame to switch out
>in sneake pebbles: the meta
Good enough, I'd say.
>>26925929
Sauce for the English trailer please.
>>26926155
>No protecting moves
>Makes prankster abusers like Meowstic, Whimsicott and Murkrow dead weight
that would be way too much, no one wants that.
>>26926337
>>26926337
Not really.
They could all predict a switch and outright attack it with their supper effective STAB.
Mindgames, party of two.
>>26925482
Bruxish is a interesting Pokémon.
>>26925929
Wait, i thought that it made them miss, not fail outright.
Does this mean that you can't use protect if your opponent has dazzle?
>>26926334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEDu2ruMOaw
>>26925564
Did you just assume their gender?
>>26926081
Top kek
>>26926003
dont even joke about that
>Implying this trashmon will do anything to dethrone the King of OU and Defender of the VGC, Lord of Priority, and Protector of the Dex
>>26925874
UTurn
Its evolution has been leaked.
>>26926897
>the denial is real
Talonflamefags btfo
>>26925579
Literally just change the mouth and it would be fine. The mouth fucking ruins it. I don't care if real triggerfish have creepy ass lips and nasty british teeth, they look fucking hideous and shitty and would look a lot better with regular fish mouths.
>>26927002
Nah, that's one of the best parts of its design. It's supposed to look like a gaudy cougar-aunt-type with too much makeup.
>>26926761
Thanks Anon.
Also Bug Buzz confirms Vikavolt as special, hell yes.
>>26927002
>Waaah why can't GameFreak pander to my shit taste
This is what you sound like. Tons of things in nature look like shit, get over it. Not every Pokemon needs to look like your anime waifu or fur bait you colossal faggot.
>>26925929
>yfw it just blocks normal moves or sub 50 bp moves and all the people celebrating this Talonflame "counter" collectively kill themselves.
>>26926958
God I knew it reminded me of some PS2 game, it was taking me so long to remember.
>>26926734
>>26926734
It makes sense.
Reminds me of this, but for underwater
>>26925482
Not to mention Megamom would be way easier to deal with in Doubles with this fucker in the battle.
>>26926761
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3zpdtz-Mahc
>Dragon Breath comes from Drampas mouth and aims at Yungoos
Oh fuck, attack animations are tailored for individual Pokemon, maybe Blastoise will shoot from his cannons instead of his mouth now!
>>26927280
It's clearly coming from a ball that appears in front of Drampa not its mouth.
Blastoise will never use his cannons.
>>26927308
I'm sure he will...
In like 3 gens.
>>26926734
If we are to assume it causes all forms of priority to fail, and not just offensive attacks, this would mean dazzle users can completely shut down prankster users, Stall pokemon who rely on residual recovery from lefties (gliscor especially), all other protective moves would fail, your opponent can't control your target with follow me/rage powder in doubles, and hell, talonflame wouldn't even be able to roost against a dazzle user.
If this ability gets on a good mon or two it will become meta-shaping.
>>26927328
Only to be removed in the following generation
>>26927800
"Banned"
-Smogon
>>26925482
imagine if this ugly fuck evolves into siren waifumon
Can anyone five this talonflame the hair from the JUST guy. And add the caption "Just fuck my priority up" please.
>>26925482
Remember that Talonflame has no counters because most of them are too specialized and in the low tiers, just like how Fairies have no counters because most Poison and Steel types are too specialized and in the lower tiers.
>>26925482
Too bad it will have shit movepool and stats, relegating it in the tier that Talonflame isn't in.
>>26927178
It also negates Megamom's Sucker Punch in a different trailer, so... no.
>>26927002
can we remove your fucking whiny mouth instead?
>>26926734
>>26926734
If Dazzling affects all priority moves regardless of whether or not they're attacks, then this means two things:
>Prankster mons BTFO
And most importantly:
>"lel Wish and Protect combo xD"fags BTFO
Is it me or is GameFreak basically saying "fuck the metagame" with these abilities they're releasing? First Nekkoala and now this.
What Mold Breaker mons have priority besides Pinsir (quick attack/feint)?
also this thing still is very susceptible to VoltTurn
>>26928316
None
>>26928225
>>"lel Wish and Protect combo xD"fags BTFO
I'm pretty sure the likes of Alomomola, Vaporeon and Florges will have nothing to worry about from this thing, even without protect.
i am a fan
>>26928946
What if it were to evolve like Feebas into Milotic? I wonder how quickly smogon would ban it
>>26925482
Hawaiian state fish here to save the meta
>>26925482
yfw this thing has base 25 speed,
>dat ability
>dat speed
Please gamefreak. it would literally be le literal ebin lulz troll of le millenium ~desu.
>>26929025
It didn't seem that weak. It did respectable damage to that Pikachu with a shitty non-stab early game move in psybeam (or was it wave?)
>>26926734
Can't wait for it to be banned to shut shitposters up.
>>26927800
>this kills the saybleye
>this kills the wishpass
>this kills the poison heal
Tumblrfish is gonna save the meta. What a time to be alive.
It's water/psychic and it probably has paper defenses. Sure, you can try to predict the uturn and switch into something else, potentially forcing the bird to take rocks damage, but there are more reliable counters already. You have to switch it in on Brave bird, and have to switch out on u-turn. A misprediction would result in death, and there are ways to remove rocks anyway which would make it all pointless. Besides, a +2 Flare Blitz may very well kill it even resisted.
It would be better if it has aqua jet to force talonflame out, but if it has shit defenses, it can be killed while switching in by any attack other than BB, or crippled by WoW.
The best build for it would probably be a slow CB aqua jet/quick attack set because nothing can outspeed. That would let it get some revenge kills against weakened dragon dancers and SD users. Nobody's going to set up to +3 while it's alive, though, and it doesn't seem to have much use outside of that. We'll probably see more bulky DDers like Dragonite.
If it works to protect allies and counters moves like protect, it might have a use in triples to block fake outs and wide guards.
For me, the ideal set would be something like
Bruxish @ Choice Band
252 Atk/252 HP/ 4 Def
Aqua Jet
Quick Attack/Waterfall
Ice Shard/Icicle Crash
U-Turn
>>26925482
>yfw it gets 2HKO by Flare Blitz anyways
>>26925530
Cosmo?
>>26930698
>80 attack with a NVE move against a supposedly balky mon
Stop posting.
>mixed attacker
Into the trash
Just fuck my Brave Bird up.
>>26929280
This is literally the social justice worker pokemon
Except this pokemon does actual justice
>>26931345
From what i gathered, it'll be slow and incredibly strong
>>26931468
We've never seen it get hit and never seen it attack with an atk/spatk based move.
>My ass tells me it'll be X!
Stop yourself.
>>26931493
>what are trailers
>>26931500
>What is psywave
If you aren't capable of reading, there are text-to-speech programs you can use.
>>26927002
You're complaining about how an actual fish looks likes?
>>26925482
>Straight up disables priority moves instead of ignoring their priority
B A S E D
RIPIP bravest bird
>its a "people think a pokemon is gonna be worth a shit based on its ability" episode
>>26927002
Remove the mouth and you've got an incredibly generic fish Pokemon.
>>26931751
It's Psychic, of course it's going to be shit.
>>26925482
I love this thing, it looks so funny
>>26931905
>Slowbro
>Slowking
>Starmie
are you retarded?
Neat things about the Hawaiian triggerfish (which is similar to the triggerfish this Pokemon most looks like)
It's was made the state fish, because it holds cultural significance
It's supposed to be the ocean manifestation of the god Ku (who is also the god of war, manhood and is a pig on land)
It's Hawaiian name is humuhumunukunukuapua'a
They are fast motherfuckers
>>26930647
>Quick Attack
Why not Extreme Speed? The fish it's based on is really fast.
>fuck talonflame
Ok
>>26933641
I respect your brave(bird)ry, Anon
>>26928168
good post
>>26925750
>Karpsplashian
ftfy
>>26925874
Fuck u cancerbird
It's probably gonna have recover, aqua ring and whirlpool.
Now if only a good Pokemon will get Dazzling as it's hidden ability.
>>26925482
What happens if you try to use Sucker Punch or Pursuit
>Talonflame Brave Bird vs. Bruxish: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- nice move
KEK
Assuming a statline near Starmie, but faster:
>4 SpA Bruxish Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 204-242 (68.6 - 81.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
119 Sp. Attack with 4 SpA and neutral nature (to ensure outspeeding) is the minimum for a Scald to have a 50% chance to OHKO Tflame.
Even a meager 60/75 bulk isnt weak enough to be OHKO by U-turn by the way.
>>26934593
>They change Starmie's HA to Dazzling.
Too bad this will never happen.
What potential new pokemon could you see getting it anyway?
>>26930647
>Water/Psychic
>>>>>physical attacker
yeah nah brah it's gonna have like 40 Attack and either obnoxious speed or obscene sp. attackor be mediocre and have 80 in everything at best
Set up Stealth Rock and keep forcing it out with offensive pressure, or counters like Heatran and Slowbro, and you won't have to worry about Talonflame.
>already resists Mach Punch, Bullet Punch and Aqua Jet
>only weak to a single priority move
>make it immune to priority attacks
>>26927002
>WAHHHH why does a Pokemon based on an animal look like that animal? Why can't everything be cute like I want???
>>26933446
They're good in SPITE being Psychic. Also Greninja is a better Starmie.
I can name more Psychics that got it bad or simply outclassed just because they're that type and GF wants to fuck them over.
>Disappointment Delphox
>MetaGROSS
>Lati@s
>Gallade
>Mediocrecham
>Jynx
>Bronzong
>Malamar
>Sigilyph
>Hypno
>"Sun Cat" Espeon
>Solgaleo
>Lunala
>>26935549
>literally calling Medicham, one of the best offensive Megas in the game, bad
The only Bruxish set I could see working is a Choice Scarf one, to revenge kill shit that's reliant on priority like Azumarill, Dragonite and, yes, Talonflame. Otherwise, you may as well use Slowbro or Starmie.
>>26925482
Pretty sure smogonbird can outspeed it.
>>26925482
>Flame Body Brave Bird
>>26934789
You're not thinking big enough. It disables any all priority. No Sucker Punch, no Protects, no Fake Out as long as this ugly motherfucker is on the field
>>26937343
I'm still iffy on Protect. Sap Sipper doesn't stop a pokemon from using Spikey Shield on itself, does it?
>>26937343
>no Protects
>no enemy priority at all as long as it's on the field
We don't know either of those things. Seeing as they didn't show it and instead elected to show quick attack and sucker punch, it's probably safer to assume that non-attacking priority will still function, and that allies won't be protected, similar to how Water Absorb works (as opposed to Storm Drain).
>>26926798
this
>>26935549
>Metagross, the latis, gallade, medicham, and Espeon are bad/outclassed
>Arguably wrong on the bronzong front too, for the mindgames
You do realise this is a list of pokemon that have altered the metagame significantly either now or in the past right?
>Metagross for being able to switch in unscathed and then Mega Evolve
>Lati because lati
>Gallade because of how much the mega improved it, medicham for similar reasons
>Espeon for status bounce shenanigans
>Bronzong because of which ability it might have.
Game Freak aren't going to make them the supreme type because of the bullshit that happened in Gen 1, same with Ice type.
That's right, you heard me. Ice was broken in Gen 1. Blizzard spam fucks shit up, especially with the free mechanics.
>>26928225
They are and it's fucking glorious. The current meta is trash. Now one can only hope we finally get the long-awaited Stealth Rock nerf.
>Water/Psychic
>With Strong Jaw
Will they give it some new moves to work with, or is this even worse than Sheer Force Kingler?
>>26937385
In the Spanish website, it says the ability nullifies all moves with priority from opponents against the user.
>>26926734
>Does this mean that you can't use protect if your opponent has dazzle?
OH SHIT I JUST REALIZED
>>26927002
>nasty british teeth
British people have razor sharp teeth that looks like they could rip your flesh off the bone?
>>26925482
"Kys" the pokemon
>>26927002
I don't care how much people hated your comment, I agree with you
