>they actually want more of these fuckers
Budew was cool though
Babymons were a mistake
>>26869260
I want a Lickitung prevo named Lickilil and a Sigilyph prevo named Runa. How is that a bad thing?also Mega Lickilicky and Mega Sigilyph
>>26869260
They're all shit or bland except for Pichu, Elekid, Magby, Igglybuff, and Cleffa.
So basically only the Gen 2 ones were good.
Good thing togepi's not on there.
>>26869260
Elekid was cool, most are trash
I like Elekid.
>>26869260
Why is Phione there?
>>26869260
Only Elekid, Mime Jr., Munchlax and Pichu are okay
Babymons are good because they give you access to cool Pokemon earlier on and the 3 perfect IVs is a godsend for breeding and ingame, they are great.
>>26869314
The tradeoff, however is that you need to evolve them to breed them, and that can get annoying, especially for the ones that are friendship evos.
Yes. The 3+ ivs helps their case, but it's still annoying to chain breed with them
>>26869314
>3 perfect ivs
Excuse me, what?
>>26869286
You listed pretty much the most bland ones, though.
The best are Elekid, Bonsly, Togepi, Mime Jr., Budew, Tyrogue, Munchlax, and Chingling because they all do something or look radically different than their evos.
>nobody cares about togepi
>>26869305
I don't even know. The person I stole this from is an idiot for forgetting Togepi, but adding that shitbird
>>26869260
Fuck you, Munchlax is the shit. Plus, most of them are just cute.
You know what? Babymons for everyone.
>>26869358
Baby Pokémon are in the undiscovered egg group and have three perfect IV's when caught in the wild, like any legendary
>>26869441
Oh, neat.
Tyrouge, Elekid, Magby, and Wynaut are the best.
The worst offenders are the ones made in Gen 4, namely Chingling and Mantyke. Munchlax and Bonsly are acceptable, but that's about it.
>>26869457
Tyrogue
Also, my opinion of gen 4 baby mons is the opposite of yours. Interesting.
>kind of bland, but still coherent in design
>stretched over 3 gens
>actually opens up a few new tricks for fully evolved without blatantly changing things.
This just makes me disappointed with megas again
>>26869441
Same with Nidorina, Nidoqueen, and Unown
>>26869260
I just want to see one for Kangaskhan and a baby calf mon that evolves into Miltank or Tauros depending on the gender.
They're cute, but I wouldn't want more of them.
I don't see the problem, I like them.
>>26869260
Neat concept, ultimately let down by the availability.
If babymon were more exclusively available as babymon it might put a more "tough to raise" spin on things, kind of like Tyrogue, Togepi, and Riolu (sort of) where it's their evolutions that you're after, not their preevos.
But then you get pokemon like Mantyke and Pichu and Cleffa who have very little reason to exist outside of the dex entry, you can't catch them anywhere (with some exceptions, but in most cases you might as well catch their evo) and you have to go out of your way to make them hatch from eggs.
>>26869260
I wish more of these were available in the wild, namely Bonsly and Munchlax.
>all these faggots implying Munchlax isn't the best prevo
Mime Jr. is one of the better one, shame about its evolution
>>26869260
Why the fuck are Phione and Riolu on there?
>>26869260
REMOVE
BABIES
or
ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO BREED
or
MAKE IT SO IF A PIKACHU (e.g.) HAS AN EGG, IT BIRTHS A PIKACHU UNLESS IT'S HOLDING A CERTAIN ITEM WHICH WILL YIELD A PICHU
But removal of babies all together would be best because they fucking clog up any new dex they're in. A new evolution is one thing, but a fucking prevo doesn't count as a new Pokemon.
>>26869732
Fuck off retard.
>>26869260
I like most of them.
And, hate it or not, Tyrogue was a great idea.
>>26869725
Well, Riolu is a baby Pokémon. It fits all of the criteria.
I like every single one
>>26869260
Mons like Lapras shouldn't be coming out of an egg. They're too big.
>>26869415
I'm sorry. Could you say that again
Why are Phione and Riolu on there? They're not baby Pokemon...
You know what's bullshit
Electabuzz got an evo
Magmar got an evo
Scyther got an evo
Jynx DOESN'T get an evo
>>26870023
He was reacting to it
>>26870171
Riolu is a baby Pokémon, though.
>>26870174
Scyther prevo when
>>26869441
i just use a hacked ditto
>>26869260
Sorry, I still like them.
Still waiting on baby prevos for Lapras, Scizor and Tauros/Miltank/Bouffalant.
>>26870177
How is Riolu a baby Pokemon? It comes from the same generation as it's evolution...
Zorua isn't a baby Pokemon, starter Pokemon aren't baby Pokemon, Eevee isn't a baby Pokemon...Riolu isn't a baby Pokemon, it's a first stage Pokemon like every other Pokemon with an evolution in the same generation.
>>26870361
>can't breed (undiscovered egg group)
>levels up with max happiness
>obtainable by breeding
These are the only criteria for Baby Pokémon. All of those in the OP bar Phione (who was inexplicably included,) in addition to Togepi, are the official Baby Pokémon. Additionally, if you intended to refute Riolu as a Baby Pokémon, you'd also have to refute Togepi, who is the de facto example.
>>26869946
No, you dumbass.
>>26870361
Are you truly this fucking dumb? It can't breed until it evolves and it evolves via happiness.
It's a baby pokemon in all senses of the term.
>>26870378
>levels up with max happiness
what is, for example, magby
>can't breed (undiscovered egg group)
This is correct, and the only meaningful criteria besides "eventually evolving into something else." Babies cannot breed but eventually grow up to be able to do so. Normal Pokémon can do the former, legendaries cannot do the latter.
>>26870378
What most people refer to as "baby" Pokemon are Pre-Evolutions of previous generations Pokemon, nothing to do with any of those things you listed.
>>26870484
Wow, I didn't know that about Magby. I'd just suggest going to the bulbapedia page then - it would likely proof anything better than I can.
The problem with babies is the fact that most of them need to be bred giving an incense to a parent, giving up either the guaranteed nature or the 5 ivs
>>26869314
The bad thing is that only Azurill (XY), Happiny (ORAS) and Riolu (XY) can be found in the wild on Gen VI
I don't mind Magby and Elekid.
>>26870458
Not the Anon you replied, but let's see more about Riolu AND Togepi:
>Undiscovered Egg Group
Check
>evolves through friendship
Check
>lower Base Stats compared with any other Pokemon thay can be caught in the wild
Check
I think their only oroblem is that both where introduced in the same gen where its evolutions debuted (not counting Togekiss)
Babies are useless in real life too, I don't know why y'all are so salty about them. They add diversity to the families they belong to
>>26870174
The poor sis was payed dust
>>26869260
I only like Smoochum, Elekid, Magby, Tyrogue and Pichu. The rest can go.
>>26871466
>payed
Really mawma? Illiterate.
>>26871394
Budew.
>>26871499
Shut up Laganja.
>>26869260
>Pichu
5/10
>Cleffa
5/10
>Igglybuff
4/10
>Togepi
7/10
>Tyrogue
7/10
>Smoochum
9/10
>Elekid
8/10
>Magby
9/10
>Azurill
6/10
>Wynaut
6/10
>Budew
6/10
>Chingling
7/10
>Bonsly
4/10
>Mime Jr.
4/10
>Happiny
5/10
>Munchlax
7/10
>Riolu
7/10
>Mantyke
6/10
I give baby pokemon an overall score of 5/10.
Babt Pokemon are cute, I love them.
>>26871561
You mean 6/10, right?maths
>>26869260
Phone and Riolu don't fit in with the rest
>>26869260
I don't mind the mons themselves so much, & the reward of the 3 max IVs for training something pretty shit is neat. The problem is the fact that they're so very rarely available in the wild. BW2 was probably the best so far for them because you could find probably close to half of them in the wild earlygame, but most of the time it's a case of catching the adult form & then breeding, which fucking sucks. I get that they did it in gen 2 to show off the breeding mechanic, but once it got to gen 4 with all the incenses it was taking the piss
>>26871499
#oop
If you want to make them hust for breeding porpoises, then whatever, that's ok. But having babies available in the wild (looking at you Gen IV), and on some occasions their evos too, is a bad idea. That's why Budew and Chingling are my least favorite pokes.
>>26871613
Be quiet, Tiffany!
>>26871588
It's not an average score. I gave each baby pokemon a design score based on how good I think their design is. It has little to do with how much I like the actual pokemon. For example I gave Cleffa a 5/10 and Riolu a 7/10 when I in fact like Cleffa but not Riolu.
The overall score is how many of the baby pokemon designs I actually like. I like 9/18 baby pokemon regardless of how good I think their designs are. There is no way to know all this from my post so I understand the confusion.
I should have just said I like half of all baby pokemon.
>>26871594
Phone is not a Pokemon you know?
>>26870495
We'll that's an incorrect definition, then, because, again, Togepi is the de facto "baby" Pokémon. Generation doesn't matter.
>>26869260
I think their existence is valid, or would be valid if they were actually distributed in game and available through breeding and gifts.
>>26871609
>>26871626
Funny how we both have entirely opposing views of what is good/bad about babies yet still end up disliking how Gen 4 handled them
The TCG dropped these things completely. They half-heartedly threw the gen 4 babies into the first DP set, then brought the mechanic back for the HGSS sets so that the gen 2 babies could appear. There hasn't been a single pre-evolution printed since then.
>>26871860
Must be hard to design a 30HP baby pokemon when someone can just plop down a 250HP pokemon at the same time. I guess they could do something with a 100HP Munchlax.
Most baby pokemon are actually clever designs and/or and belong to pokemon that wouldn't make sense hatching out of an egg otherwise. I only think Igglybuff and Pichu are useless, but of course they were going to happen.
>>26871428
So it isn't a baby Pokemon if it was added in the same gen. That's like saying any prevo is a baby Pokemon.
Babymons are useful in concept.
We could have them as early region mons in place of Rattata, Caterpie, and Pidgey archetypes.
But for some reason Game Freak would rather make them unobtainable outside of breeding.
BW2 was one of my favorite games simply because of that baby farm. We need more of that.
>>26871991
I like how they gave that one egg in Crystal gives you one of the baby Pokemon but you don't know what it is. I think that is a really cool concept that they should've kept in HGSS.
>>26870020
>Pokémon that should be given babies because they shouldn't be coming out of eggs
Lapras, Onix, Kangaskhan, Tropius, etc.
