>the games have always been this easy
How did we change so much In 1 year from BW2 to X and Y
>>26863406
Tbf oras did have proper rematches.
Ghetsis Hydreigon in BW1 was actually one of the hardest moments I've had in an in-game pokemon run. I don't understand where this "B-BUT ALL THE GAMES WERE JUST AS EASY AS GEN 6" mentality comes from.
>>26863417
Doesn't change how garbage X and Y were
>>26863406
I remember her having 6 pokemon, she had the two fossil pokemon didn't she?
>>26863419
>Ghetsis Hydreigon in BW1 was actually one of the hardest moments I've had in an in-game pokemon run
lol
>>26863428
Well, no but at least we know gamefreak are learning
>>26863429
This is her "rematch" you can also pay to up her level and make it harder.
She got the fucking level up movesets
>captivate
>stored power
>level 80
Mega gardevoir
>>26863429
yes she did. even with those she was incredibly easy, no need for OP to lie
>>26863439
No this her rematch where she becomes the highest leveled trainer in the game
the in game for pokemon is designed to be beaten by six year olds and always has been
the moves on that gardevoir are laughably bad though
>>26863434
>hax maison again
I'm not quite sure, it's defiantly better
>>26863446
damn this is the REMATCH team? aren't those supposed to be harder?
>>26863406
How can anyone say that 5th gen was challenging when you could just sweep the entire e4 and the nigger with moxie?
>>26863490
Not to mention that gen is when they started only having 4 pokemon.
Gen 5 is when it started to get even more casual.
>>26863505
At least they have full 6 mon rematches, Platinum didn't even have that
>held item: NONE
>>26863528
I'd rather they have good teams from the start. Post game is just extra.
>>26863419
I one shot it with my Vanilluxe
>>26863406
>no items
>stored power with no power-up setting
>HYPNOSIS/DREAM EATER
>pickup
>4 mons
>you still get more money than in the battle with Iris
>not even one fairy move on fairy mom
Holy christ.
>>26863636
>hey dudes, i one shot with an overleveled supereffective move, i'm supah strong, i swear
>>26863651
It's the Battle Chateau, not her E4 team
>>26863660
Who are you quoting?
>>26863419
>I don't understand where this "B-BUT ALL THE GAMES WERE JUST AS EASY AS GEN 6" mentality comes from.
Ghetsis is not the whole game, dumbass. There are people that got destroyed by Lysandre's mega Gyarados too.
>>26863665
Newfag detected
>>26863677
>There are people that got destroyed by Lysandre's mega Gyarados too.
Literally only kids got owned by Fagsandre.
>>26863677
>There are people that got destroyed by Lysandre's mega Gyarados too
I know, right. There are still 6yo that play the games.
>>26863686
How ironic.
>>26863611
Post game is still the game you faggot. You're talking like it's DLC or some shit.
>>26863419
definitely, that Hydreigon was way too OP, especially at that level, it outspeed most pokemon at that stage in the game, didn't help it had great type coverage.
>>26863406
Someone actually saved this picture for the sole purpose of shitposting about gen 6? Really? He even made the Wally vs Iris one for the more accurate comparison so someone had to have actively chosen to save this one in particular.
>>26863697
>>26863705
>exactly 1 minute apart
>still 13 IPs at the time of the post
Mmmh.
>>26863636
Mine got killed throught fire blast.
>>26863677
I don't think I've ever head that. Like ever, there's never been anyone whose said that here. I can assure you if you did, should should probably fuck off this board
>>26863660
How you play the campaign: the post. Now you know where the 'mentality" comes from.
>>26863733
It's called fucking being apart of thread.
HAS ANYONE HERE EVER HAD TROUBLE WITH LYSANDRE
>>26863739
I could say the same to you for losing to Ghetsis's Hydreigon. Who decides what it's okay to lose to and what you're a scrub for losing to? You?
>>26863636
But anon, isn't Reshiram in front at that point?
>>26863719
I mean, how does he not see what person you are talking too
>>26863756
How new are you, like seriously? It was a meme about his Hydreigon, and how hard it was. No single person here beside you has ever said they've had trouble with Lysandre
>>26863749
The mega gyrados was kind of a surprise
>>26863771
I like the assumption that it's only one person and the attempt to deflect with "HOW NURU????" Really helps you look right
>>26863777
He fucking told you he had harnessed the power of mega evolution. We're you not here for the leaks of mega Gyrados?
>>26863406
>giving one of the Champions Pokemon explosion
Only 4 pokemon
>>26863787
>>26863777
>>26863733
>>26863677
Prove you are the same person, or a underage fag
Were you here when BW came out? Or when X and Y came out?
>you can't faceroll the main game no matter what
Fucking plebs
>5th gen had difficulty options
>6th gen made the games easy as shit and removed the difficulty option
Fucking hell if you want to make the games easy for new folks that's ok... Just keep the difficulty option in and make it an option from the beginning.
>>26863824
If I were either of those things, it doesn't prove me wrong or you right. You have to actually, you know, prove it.
>>26863446
No, it isn't. That's from a completely different place than the Pokemon League. Notice how she's "Grand Duchess" and not "Champion."
>>26863852
Ummm...the Chateau is the only place you CAN rematch them at a higher level.
>>26863824
Wasn't here for XY hype.XY was my first pokemon game. I was in college when I picked it up. Did they seriously spoil lysandre's mega? I thought it was kind of clever.
>>26863843
>difficulty options
>must be received from another console AFTER beating the league
lel
>>26863824
I am in fact the last two posts you linked, yes. And yes i were here for both.
One single good Pokemon doesn't make the whole team ultra-powerful. Cofagrigus and Hydreigon are the only two dangerous members of his team, hell they're the only ones that received an item in BW2.
But you can't tell me someone using Seismitoad is dangerous for using it.
>>26863859
You can also challenge her at lower level, it's not an official rematch. That's like saying BW2 has gym rematches because you can fight them in the PWT.
>>26863879
It's sad how Unovafags delude themselves into thinking Gen 5 had it all and did everything right.
>>26863880
I'm just trying to compare the highest leveled battle in Kalos to the highest leveled battle in Unova
Fine compare PWT teams to Diantha, it'll sure help XY's case for being harder
>>26863901
I thought PWT auto sets to 50 or your highest level. It's not a fair comparison.
>>26863901
Why do we have to compare to Diantha? Why not post Wally's rematch team in ORAS? The thread the OP image came from had it. I wonder why that one wasn't posted instead?
>>26863912
I mean the sets are good too you know
>>26863918
I am showing 2 back to back games, that's all I did. 1 year apart difference
>>26863824
boi look at dis autism
>>26863934
What difference does that make? Pokemon games always go backwards moving from the end of the last gen to the beginning of the new one. What's he point of that comparison?
>>26863406
>trying this hard to shit on gen 6
That's Diantha in BATTLE CHATEAU, not the league.
You and your "muh gen 6 sucks meme" can go fuck off
>>26863945
What game gave their highest leveled trainer level up sets, why is that ok in any game?
>>26863960
It's still the highest leveled trainer in X and Y, that uses level up sets
Go back to your simulators, nothing in the game will ever satisfy you.
>>26863982
PWT did
>>26863987
Nope! Not even themThey have worse movesets
>>26863995
Actually I was wrong but these are the games from 17 years ago, where you could switch your Pokemon with your items
>>26863986
No, you didn't. No one is ever challenged by this junk. You could beat every last one of these things blindfolded.
>>26863982
>battle frontier
>>26864020
I like how you didn't care how old they were until you realized you were wrong, causing you to backpedal to "w-well... they're old and bad it's not their fault !" Yeah okay dude
>>26864034
Awww, he can't handle the Battle Frontier. Then you'll never make it in real life, son. Go back to your sissy playground.
>>26864040
I'm saying these games are garbage and broken messes, that's what you are comparing Xand Y to
>>26864040
Are you comparing X and Y to RB?
They are so broken that the didn't even programs accuracy right
>>26864058
I know you no longer have arguments left, but now you are trying way too hard to prove yourself.
Show us your 7 Gold Symbols or get out
>>26864077
>>26864125
So X and Y are worse than broken messes... you guys are pretty hard on them
>>26863677
>Ghetsis is not the whole game, dumbass
Still harder than literally anything in gen 6. And NOBODY got stuck on Lysandre, stop bullshitting.
>>26864147
I think at this point I'm being baited, and I'm too annoyed to see it
Fucks sake I'm sick of this argument. TPP proved that all the games can be beaten with essentially random input. They have never been hard. Every now and then there might be a difficult battle if you don't have the right type matchup but that's it.
>>26864204
Nobody "got stuck" on Ghetsis, and as far as losing to the Hydreigon, for that I'll just use the same line you'll use when I say I lost to the Mega Gyarados. You know the one. Say it
>>26864213
NO THEY DIDN'T. THEY TURNED KT OFF TO GET PAST THE LEDGES. THEY NEVER WOULD'VE GOTTEN ANYWHERE WITHOUT IT. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>26864209
I'm sure your father said the same thing the day you were born, but his arguments for saying that were much better than yours
>>26864213
Actually X, then closely followed by OR was the shortest runs ever, and they rallied together to go into the menu and turn it off
>>26864264
Anon.... They got passed the ledges, they stopped it at the safari zone
>>26864222
>Nobody "got stuck" on Ghetsis
Yes they did newfag. Nobody loses to Gyarados because Lysandre doesn't even have a full fucking team and the player's Pokemon levels are way above him.
>>26864392
I lost to Mega Gyarados
>>26864213
>They have never been hard
The new games are still easier.
>>26864392
Not a newfag, I was here when there were Pokemon Generals on/v/. Makes it a lot easier to undermine an argument when the other person is underage and/or a newfag though, doesn't it? Which doesn't really make a lot of sense. I definitely don't remember anyone going "wow I just can't beat Ghetsis!", especially not here, and that being the case is pretty much impossible if you have the brain capacity to realize how to hit things super effective whilst facing opponent's who aren't allowed to do half the things you are, like switch or use items.
>>26864396
How...
Literally how....
How garbage do you have to be to
Even with no legendary+Exp all, how could anyone lose? What was your team?where did you end up?
>>26864427
Quick question are you him >>26864396
>>26864427
>"wow I just can't beat Ghetsis!"
Then you didn't lurk hard enough. And being able to beat him doesn't mean that beating him wasn't hard. Perhaps you should get the brain capacity to realize that switching in and using SE moves doesn't matter if it has ridiculous coverage and always moves first.
>>26864434
There it is. that's the response I was looking for. I will just copy and paste it every time someone says they lost to the Hydreigon.
>>26864427
Clearly you weren't here
>>26864461
I was here. I was here until BW2. Nobody was brickwalldd by Ghetsis. In fact this was well before BW was even considered a good game, it was the one that was cool to hate.e
>>26864454
What was your team? Ghetsis was also hard because it came right after N without healing, and you're saying you had a really hard time when you have to reject a legendary against a trainer with 4 pokemon
>>26864476
No it wasn't that was DP, SinnohFetuses have ruined this board.
>>26864125
Sure, the games aren't like Gen 1, but the trainers and their moves are. Lysande's Meinshao and Pyroar don't even have full movesets, and the Gyarados literally has no dark moves.
>>26864340
How many people did they have by the end though? It's obviously going to be easier later on when there's less people inputing commands, trolls aren't interested in impeding progress anymore, and anyone that's still left knows what they're doing.
>>26864496
Yeah, not even GS were that shitty
How does this matter? Why should the game be like that 17 years latter
Epically when you're designed to be under leveled in X and Y
>>26864489
Didn't say I had a '"really hard time". Just that I lost go it once. That isn't a "really hard time". Why does it matter what my team was? I don't remember because I played through BW many times but I seriously never had an issue. I think this was a play through where I used a Scrafty. But You could have had Mienahao or Vanilluxe or many other Pokemon to just beat it. Ita really not hard. also the Pokemon count doesnt matter. Why do people keep bringing it up? It's literally just one more turn cycle, not a difficulty measurement.
>>26864500
How many people would have left between B2 and X?
If anything more people were hyped that they were playing X
>>26864511
Tell me all your team in XY and I'll record myself saying you were right
My team sucked and I still won against Ghetsis on the first try. I have no idea what the movesets were, though. Just that it involved Dragon Tail and making Hydreigon BTFO until I could better deal with it.
>>26864526
I don't remember my levels because I've played through Y several times and I shouldn't have to remember details like that to prove someone on here internet wrong. tell me the team and levels you were brickwalled by Hydreigon with.
>>26864514
Considering XY were still fresh in people's memories, I wouldn't put it past them to just jump off at that point. Plus all that time between the last gym and Iris must've burnt out a lot of people, it was the longest period of time without any actual progress being made as far as I can see on that chart. But my point still stands, until we get some participation numbers, TPP progress isn't necessarily a good indicator.
>>26864526
Wow, an anonymous person on the internet will record themselves saying they were wrong? What a treat
>>26864555
I was never brick walled, but he gave me an insain my hard time
Bearitic - Fire Blast
Krookidile
Leavany -Fire Blast
Embroar - Surf
Stoutland -Focus Blast
Gothitelli -dark pulse (I didn't know it was a dark type)
It was crazy coverage, I was level 48~52 ish
>>26864562
When the progress is the shortest run, that's saying something anon. Just like how HGSS/plat/Emerald are all the next longest too
You can't compare the older games, but how much different is X and Y to BW gameplay wise.
>>26864590
No wait, I learned it was a dark type and I was 2HKO'ed by dragon pulse
>>26864434
>Even with no legendary+Exp all, how could anyone lose?
The same way you can lose to Ghetsis which has a single strong Pokemon.
>>26864222
>Nobody "got stuck" on Ghetsis
If you were here for the Gen5 days, then you would know that people raged hard over Gaycheese's Hydreigon. It was incredibly memorable because it was fast, evolved despite being underleveled, and had great coverage. People got fucked over by that thing to the point that you could ask anyone who played Gen 5 games what they thought of Ghetsis and they'd tell you that his Hydreigon was a cunt.
>>26864396
How fucking terrible are you at the game to lose to Mega Gyrados? Were you running a team of 6x Golem? Are you that terrible at the game that you couldn't beat a giant floating turd?
>>26864427
I call bullshit. People bitched about Ghetsis' Hydreigon and after the initial release people talked about how powerful Alder's Volcarona was.
>>26864476
>nobody was brickwalled by Ghetsis
Fucking false. I myself was brickwalled by Ghetsis and the only reason I defeated him was because my Zekrom managed to paralyze it with dragonbreath before dying on my fifth battle against him. He outsped everything I had.
>>26864544
See, that's using strategy and having got gud.
>>26864590
The speed and coverage gave people fits.
>>26863867
>XY was my first pokemon game.
>>26864663
Thank you anon, it was getting tired of sticking up for myself against this newfag
>>26864663
>How fucking terrible are you at the game to lose to Mega Gyrados
How fucking terrible are you that you literally got stuck on an NPC in a Pokemon game? I can do it too. How did you make this post and not realize that I could?
>>26863406
I wouldn't consider Archeops, Druddigon and Lapras Pokemon considering they get easily fucked by common ingame Pokemon, even by OHKO.
I'm also pretty sure nobody bothered to replay BW2 to get the Hard Mode run or even complete its post-game.
I do agree that Gen 6 got very easier for some unjustified reason. Diantha was meh as much as the league (the league was equally shit in Gen 5 but at least they got 6 Pokemon), ORAS league rematch also had more Pokemon but they were a bit retarded moveset wise and the megas didn't even abuse their signature abilities.
And fuck Steven Stone's rematch team, literally a downgrade and weaker than its standard team in RS and rematch in Emerald.
>>26864727
>I wouldn't consider Archeops, Druddigon and Lapras Pokemon
Wut
I think you didn't look at the actual picture too anon because as a level 80 her gardevoir uses captivate+stored power
I still agree with you
>>26864650
>single strong pokemon
>what is Cofagrigus
>what is the Bouffalant that wont die
>Eelektross with coverage
>Seismitoad that sets up rain on your ass
Compared to:
>Pyroar with 3 moves
>Mienshao with 3 moves
>physical Honchkrow
>Mega Gyrados
It's not fucking comparable. One you can sweep, the other can fuck you hard.
>>26863406
Iris' team is weaker, though.
>>26864650
>Ghetsis has a single strong Pokemon
Have you even played these games?
>>26864693
During my worst year in school one of my friends canned me because I didn't like pokemon. Soured me on the series, then just didn't bother with it for years.
>>26864756
>captivate
>stored power
>mega gardevoir
It's like they didn't care
Enough, if I can have a Samurott/Unfezant/Blitzle/Darmanitan/Krookodile/Sawsbuck and win, so can you.
>>26864759
What other games have you played since then?
More like Ghetsis' Hydreigon wasthe only Pokémon that "smash the dance button plant" Lilligant and "press blitz orangutan" Darmanitan weren't able to easily remove.However Lilligant was still able to set up on his stall Cofagrigus lead, Ghetsis BW2 team was less powerful and for some reason Hydreigon went full physical, why would they nerf it when BW2 didn't lock you into using Unova shitmons and had tons of other options avaible to use including early game Volcarona.N's team was E4 / Veteran tier team excluding the mediocre legendary.
>>26864759
He was doing you a favor.
>>26864695
He obviously wasn't here for Gen 5 and he certainly didn't play BW.
>>26864709
My team was underleveled and I was running a mostly slow team. Hydreigon outsped my team and managed to hit it pretty hard with its great coverage. Considering I had no idea what to expect first time I went against it, it took me by surprise and I had to adapt in future encounters for it.
>>26864744
Aggron* instead of Druddigon.
>stored power with no stat boosting moves
fucking wow
Fuck Ghetsis, this is the guy that I got fucked by multiple times.
If i could beat Diantha (and 1HKOing 2 of her mons) with 4 underleveled pokemon you know it's easy
>>26864756
No the fuck it isn't
>>26864747
>>what is Cofagrigus
The one that doesn't die.
>>what is the Bouffalant that wont die
The one that never survives a single turn, ever.
>>Eelektross with coverage
Mmh coverage coming from that delicious 50 speed.
>>Seismitoad that sets up rain on your ass
You can't fucking defend Seismitoad.
>the other can fuck you hard.
Yes, with the only Pokemon you didn't mention. Lysandre is weak but outside Hydreigon Ghetsis is easy as piss.
>>26864757
Have you? Hydreigon is the only one. Cofagrigus is annoying, not "fuck this is worrying" but "DIE ALREADY" annoying.
Fuck, even with lv90 Pokemon >>26864794 STILL provides a worthy challenge.
>>26864777
>press blitz darmanitan
I actually ended up defeating it with Darmanitan's Hammer Arm. Go figure.
>>26864779
Eh. He was pretty autistic. I don't think he really understood what he was doing.
>>26864774
ORAS, then Emerald on an emulator for comparison. Hopefully I'll have enough money to pick up SM when it comes out.
>>26864769
We aren't saying you can't "not" win, but that it's hard coverage for ice types, and no 4x weakeness
Did your Samorrott use blizzard?
>>26864777iris stole it
Although I think I heard a theory saying he lost his Pokemon in jail and he didn't want to copy his lost Hydreigon's moveset out of memory. It's dumb but I like it
>>26864795
every pokemon trainer ever
>>26864783
It makes for a good ice type counter
>>26864780
I was definitely here. Just because you made a shit team and was under leveled doesn't change that. I played BW with Samurott, Watchog, Simisear, Swoobat, Leavanny, and Scrafty and I had no issues at all. That entire team is almost all shitmon, too.
>>26864794
yeah this guy was annoying
>>26864820
I don't remember. I had to have some kind of Ice attack, I always do that for a water poke, but Samurott was the one with Dragon Tail.
>>26864794
I like him as a character and his team fits his theme while being competent
>>26864830
And how overleveled were you? 60s? 70s?
>>26864851
50s
>>26864830
Moxie Scrafty pretty much destroys all of Unova pretty much
>>26863406
>be a character from a new gen that as always is supposed to carry the pokemon battle challenge tradition and perhaps add difficulty for the older fans
>be a fucking champion or elite 4 or leader class
>be an extraordinary trainer which knowledge and competence is supposed to differ from other evolving and casual trainer classes
>END USING RETARDED LEVEL UP MOVESETS
>END BEING WORSE THAN SOME VETERAN AND ACE TRAINERS AND BATTLE FACILITY NPC
Why is this allowed again?
Ok, did BW/BW2 have the best trainer themes?
Like elite 4/Iris/ghetsis/Hugh/Colress/N?
>>26864794
>colress
>hard
>in the "hey look at this free excadrill in the dust" games
If anything I'll leave you he is an intersting character and has a cool team and wish Platinum gave a simialar themed team to Charon, but you see he can't really touch Excadrill or other free shit you get before him.
>>26864858
>but anon! Red and Blue were like that 17 years ago!
>>26864854
>50s
So you just used Scrafty.
Ok. So your shitmon team didn't do anything for that battle, you just used Scrafty. Get the fuck out of here you little nigger, your entire argument was based on you somehow finding a way to win and the rest of us being shit and that because you lost to Mega fucking Gyrados but you used the one pokemon that steamrolls Ghetsis, you are the undeniable expert on what is easy and what is hard.
The entire part of the comparison was to show how fucking horseshit easy Gen 6 was in comparison to Gen 5 and how it was a step in the wrong direction, and your entire argument against that, sits on the crux of you using the perfect mon for that specific boss battle, despite the fact that you made it out to seem that the rest of us were shitters for not gitting gud, when you weren't any better.
Just, sit your candy ass down.
>>26864892
Find an NPC stronger than the ones in Indigo Plateau. Go on.
Champions so far;
Blue/Gary/ASSFAGGOT
>Your rival from the start
>Tough as shit, but still second place to you
>Suddenly he's #1, until you kick him down from the throne
Lance;
>Once part of the E4, he ascended to Champion
>His lineup was simple but powerful
>Despite its overwhelming weaknesses, it made up for them with pure strength
Steven Stone;
>Built up as a knowledgeable person
>Shows enthusiasm in fighting you as equals
>His team was strong enough to give the player some challenge without being overwhelming
Cynthia;
>Met multiple times through your adventure
>Shows strength that overwhelms her opponents
>Is one of the toughest champions by far
>Enthusiastic about fighting you and congratulating you
Alder;
>Literally who?
>Oh right, it was that guy who helped us out from time to time, and who we helped restore his spirit
>Oh shit, he's surprisingly tough
Iris;
>Ha, she was the easiest gym leader. How could she possibly be a challenge?
>She seemingly got pushed into the position. She can't possibly be strong.
>That music makes her seem so pitiful
>CLEARLY NOT AS PITIFUL AS EXPECTED
Diantha;
>Old woman actor with blue eyeliner. This doesn't look like a champion.
>Clearly only cares about her acting, doesn't seem enthusiastic about her more important role at all as champion
>Oh, she IS the champion?
>So, when do we fight the Champion's team?
>Wait, that was her team?
>Has literally no purpose in the story at all, other than saying hi
Diantha a shit and has no right being a Champion. Iris was better written AND designed, even if she looked like a silly magical girl.
>>26864213
Just because the old games aren't super challenging doesn't mean that the new games aren't even less challenging than the one's that came before, to the point that it's difficult to stay awake playing them.
>>26864889
>implying everyone used an Excadrill
>>26864911
Nice blog
>>26864899
Who the fuck are you talking about? I didn't lose to Mega Gyarados. I also didn't lose to Ghetsis because I'm not an idiot.
>YOU USEF THR PERFECT MON!!!
Even so it was a total accident. I'd dint pick it just so I could post years later that I'm better at Pokemon than a dumbass who gets literally stonewalled by an NPC in a Pokemon game.
>>26864911
>Iris was better written AND designed
I'll give you designed but that character is a fucking mary sue through and through. No one likes the child prodigy trope.
>>26864913
I got bored with ORAS and couldn't find the motivation to do the Delta Episode. I mean, what's the point?
>>26864923
Thank you for the valuable reply to a conversation point.
>>26864935
While nobody with any taste in media likes child prodigy tropes, it's better than whatever trope you would call Diantha. The "Doesn't care either way what her role is" trope? The "Doing it just because" trope? At least Iris has some development, as little as it is.
>>26864935
Then why do you play this game? It's all about being a child prodigy and everyone but you being dumber than a rock.
>>26864935
Blue was a gary stu and a child prodigy.
>>26864906
It was a joke...
People did it to me seriously earlier
>>26864916
>implying excadrill was the only one easily avaible and popular pokemon able to steamroll colress
>>26863730
How is Wally vs Iris more accurate? Wally is by far the strongest trainer in ORAS, and, unless my memory is horrible, Iris is not. It's either N or Benga or Colress or somebody along those lines.
>>26864993
I'm not him, but most ground/fighting types lose to his behyem
>>26865008
Uh... No. You don't lose to the Beheeyem just because it has a grass type move on it. That's not how it works. Especially not with Beheeyem.
>>26865024
>type coverage doesn't take care of other Pokemon
?
>>26865036
>Beheeyem has a grass attack so it automatically destroys ground types!
>>26865036
I guess Smeargle must be the strongest Pokemon. In can use any four moves for perfect coverage. Checkmate atheists
>>26865081
>Eelektross
Have we finally found the perfect Smeargle counter?
>>26865092
>Gravity Smeargle
!!!!!!!!
>>26865111
Smeragle confirmed unbeatable
>>26865123Can Smeargle still have perfect coverage with Gravity + Earthquake to beat Eelektross and a fairy move to beat the ghost/darks ?
>>26865157
MIMIC SMEARGLE
>>26865157
It would need a rock move to hit every mon at least normally effectively.
>>26865178
Nah it needed SE coverage. so I guess that's a no. Smeargle debunked. Everyone go home
>>26864727
>I'm also pretty sure nobody bothered to replay BW2 to get the Hard Mode run or even complete its post-game.
You can activate hard mode as soon as you beat the league in Black 2, no need for a new file.
So I'm sure everyone who actually fought her rematch team did so on hard mode, unless they're a fucking idiot.
Also why wouldn't you complete the post game? It's one of BW2's strongest points.
>Steven's rematch team
Fucking bullshit. Get rid of the coolest mons on your team for a rock and "hey, bet you never fought one of these before" Aerodactyl.
>>26863406
diantha was harder than iris. iris is garbage and a nigger.
>>26864727
>And fuck Steven Stone's rematch team, literally a downgrade and weaker than its standard team in RS and rematch in Emerald.
No? I mean Carbink is bad but in the end it's not much different from Claydol. Aerodactyl is better than both fossils.
>>26865310
Edgy
>>26865322
i hate edgelords like you, nigger
>>26865310
Did you look at the pic?
>>26864747
>>physical Honchkrow
are you seriously trying to imply this is a bad thing? special honchkrow sucks dick comparatively
>>26865338
>>26865343
>responding to "Seismitoad that sets up rain on your ass"
N is the strongest team of 6, Benga is the strongest team of 3.
N goes full weather and is pretty challenging, definitely on par with post-game Wally in terms of difficulty.
You still had Alder, Bianca, Cheren, and Gamefreak all with full teams and relatively high levels, as well as the Shadow Trio, the Striaton Gym Leaders, and Benga with relatively strong teams of 3.
BW2 was so good man.
>>26863406
I thought Diantha had 6 mons? That's missing Tyrantrum and Auroras. I remember because the first time I finished X was during a Nuzlocke, and I overleveled, but I was only 10 levels higher.
>>26865360
Don't forget Colress.
>>26865001
And none of those have a better team than Wally so you're basically acting like an obnoxious faggot
>>26864747
>physical Honchkrow
>bad
Certified dummy.
>>26865364
Oh yeah, slightly weaker than N but still really good.
All this talk makes me want to replay BW2. Too bad I only have W2 and nobody to give me a hard mode key.
>>26865340
I think he's referring to her original team and I actually agree. Diantha's original team was better.
>>26865318
The Claydol he still keeps on his team. Meaning there's no need for Carbink. Aerodactyl is pretty shit too. Rock slide and elemental fangs. The other fossils were much more threatening. Not to mention a lot cooler.
>>26865361
That's the Chateau rematch team. That one's higher leveled and the Champion team has 2 more mons. They're both pretty shit, though.
>>26865360
Cynthia-pandering was also in BW2 and she had a pretty boss team.
The hardest part about the legendary battles in ORAS for me was trying to find a pokemon that could whittle them down without one or two hit KOing them, even several levels below, since I wanted to save the master ball for deoxys.
>>26864813
>Hopefully I'll have enough money to pick up SM when it comes out
Hopefully you'll have 40 dollars by 5 months? Are you homeless or underaged?
>>26865483
He might just be a NEET.
>>26865318
Fossils in Gen 3 were better, especially the Ancient Power boosts comebacks.
In Gen 6 an Aerodactyl was both unnecessary and not so hard, keeping the fossils that got a movepool upgrade through gens would have been better.
Also fuck the decision to not give back Earthquake to Steven Stone's Metagross in both first battle and rematch, the champion's ace having Hyper Beam and Giga Impact is a very stupid tradition, especially on said Metagross that paried with Meteor Mash and mixed Psychic was a pain to deal with.
Why would he even need Aerodactyl when it is already one of Lance signature Pokemon in Gen 1, Gen 2 and Gen 3, he does also have Skarmory as signature flying Pokemon.
They clearly tried to give it a somewhat of Fire resist but this Aerodactyl cannot even seriously damage Blaziken and its eventual mega, pretty sure Armaldo would have done more while Cradily would have been a decent answer for the Swampert users.
>>26865365
To be fair you pretty much need an actual competitve team just to reach wally (beat a super battle thing), compared to a rematch elite 4
>>26864222
Ghetsis isn't the most difficult challenge in any game in history, but as far as Pokemon goes, he was a welcome surprise of difficulty -- like that Veteran in the cave.
Pokemon games aren't difficult in general, yes, but that doesn't mean that the Gen 6 wasn't even easier than than the games that came before it.
>>26864935
I could barely even finish ORAS, I understand that feel.
>>26865862
Thanks. This faggot was denying people called ghetsis hard too
>>26863417
but it didn't, no gym leader rematches
