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was Mewtwo ever capture?

did Red or Leaf capture Mewtwo?

Did Ethan or Lyra capture Mewtwo?

or was it..Calem or Serena?

People claim that Mewtwo and other legendaries was capture.
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Canonically, it was never captured
I'm saying this because they're just going to keep making it appear in caves, meaning that unless there are more than one, it was never captured
though, it doesn't really matter much, does it?
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>>26856396
>>26856448
easy, folks. There are canonically more than one Mewtwo
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>>26856457
So we just have a bunch of horrifically powerful psychic weirdos just squatting in caves?
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>>26856472
Canonically speaking, yes.
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>>26856457
>>26856501
No.
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>>26856510
"Canonically speaking", Mewtwo is just a Mew breeding. So... yes.

Mew gives birth = A Mewtwo born
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>>26856396
>Pokemon
>Canon
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>>26856501
>>26856457

Impossible. Fuji mentioned Mewtwo.

Fuji didn't say Mewtwos.
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>>26856396
So far, Mewtwo has only ever been available for capture post-game. So no.
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>>26856629

Go away internet troll.

Canon is slang word for official.
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>>26856635
The plural could be Mewtwo, just like the plural of box is boxen.
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>>26856609

There is only one Mewtwo.
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>>26856396
Only legendaries that are canon captured are Latias or Latios, Rayquaza, Reshiram, Zekrom, and Xerneas or Yveltal.
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>>26856664
MOOSEN!
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>>26856664

There is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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>>26856635
1 Plural of "Mewtwo" is "Mewtwo" dumbass

2 Fuji does not have to be related to ALL Mewtwo
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The only lore is collecting and battling. There is no other lore.
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>>26856688
In the past, maybe. Now there are canonically more than one.
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>>26856457
Mewtwo is unique in the pre-gen 6 universe.
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>>26856635

The plural of Pokemon is Pokemon, not Pokemons, idiot
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>>26856692
I'm pretty sure the plural is "Mewtwinsies".
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>>26856688
What if it was raped by Ditto?
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Kanto's Mewtwo was born in Cinnabar = Kanto's Pokedex talks about Kanto's Mewtwo

Kanto's Mewtwo was born in Cinnabar =/= ALL Mewtwo was born in Cinnabar
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There is one Mewtwo. Red caught it in the original universe, Ethan caught it in the remake universe, and Serena caught it in the mega universe.

You can trust me on this, I have a direct line with Masuda himself.
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I once asked about the mewtwo movies. Answer was that they were different mewtwos on each movie according to /vp/
I trust /vp/
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>>26856692

You are stupid.
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>>26856727

There is only one Mewtwo.
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>>26856728

There is only one Mewtwo.
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>>26856701

That's pure fanon.
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You know, if you are going to do nothing but conjure fan fiction, then the answer doesn't matter.
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>>26856716

go away.
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>>26856716
The plural of Pokémon is actually Pokémen.
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>>26856923

People believe that there are multiple Mewtwo.

That's silly.
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>>26856396
There's only one. Nobody has been able to catch it.
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>>26856740
Isnt the remake universe the same as the mega universe?
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>>26856948

I see, some one is following canon information.

:)
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>>26856940
Of course there are. I'm pretty sure everyone's had a Mewtwo at some point in time. You're going to deny those exist?
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>>26856948
But anon I caught it :3
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>>26856457
Only way i'm going to accept this is if they make some sideplot where it's revealed that the Mewtwo from Kanto was cloned

I actually wouldn't mind that at all
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>>26856961

There is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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>>26856967

Your Pokémon Adventures is non-canon.
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>>26856912
Then provide irrefutable proof that there is canonically only one. Real sources only. Bonus if it's directly from the main man himself.
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>>26856955
Original
RGB -> GSC

Remake
FRLG -> RSE -> HGSS -> DPPt -> BW -> BW2

Re:Remake
ORAS -> XY -> SM(maybe)
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I'm ignoring the game text because it's irrelevant to what the game is about.

I'm ignoring the game text because it makes no sense.

I'm ignoring the game text because fuck that noise, you're all crazy idiots.

Hmmm...
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>>26857003

If you pay attention to the story.
You know that there is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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>>26857034
You already know no one cares about the story, shut up.
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>>26857044

Go away.
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>>26857053
No, it's true. Everyone either makes junk up or it has no meaning to them whatsoever.
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>>26857085

Why are you trolling?
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>>26857102
You actually think everything you say cannot be argued? You should already know that is not true. It doesn't matter how many things you can quote or observations you can make, someone is going to disagree with you.

Then again, I have not yet found the person that will argue the matter that pokemon is only about collecting and battling, so that is the only story and the only thing that matters and it's the only thing anyone should care about because you all cannot argue it.
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Fuck off Richard.
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>>26857160

enough trolling.
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>>26857171

ok.
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>>26857204
So you think what you have to say is more valid than what I have to say? That's rich. There's no such thing.
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>That movie that portrays a female Mewtwo
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>>26857219

I'm talking about Mewtwo.

You are talking about something else.
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>>26857242

Alternative timeline.
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>>26857319
Doesn't matter. Whatever you have to say has no meaning.
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>>26857338

I don't have no interest in talking you.

Your comment is meaningless.

You are internet troll.
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>>26856747

Two different Mewtwo who exist in two different timelines.
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I'm pretty sure the only psuedo-canon legendary captures in the series are Reshiram/Zekrom to Hilda/Hilbert and Rayquaza to Brenden/May because for the canon story to continue the way it does, those Pokemon have to be in the ownership of those characters.

In every other instance, Red/Leaf/Gold/Lyra/Kalem/Serena capturing Mewtwo doesn't need to happen for anything. They could've easily just defeated it when they encountered it, leaving it free to roam the world.

Actually I'd argue the opposite is true in Red/Leaf's case. If Mewtwo is still in the same cave 3 years later, then there's no possible way that Red/Leaf caught it for themselves.
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>Mewtwo gets captured in FR/LG
>Trainer releases Mewtwo after retiring
>Mewtwo returns to his home cave and gets encountered in HG/SS
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there's more than one mewtwo. if the anime could have more than one because reasons, so can the game.

you care more about this than the game devs do.
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>>26857410

No. There is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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See? I told you. No one will argue it. Pokemon is only about collecting and battling. It is the only story. It is the only lore. Everything else is irrelevant.
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>>26857408

Nah. Mewtwo was never officially capture.
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>>26857427

Because, You are a internet troll.

There is no need to talk to a internet troll.
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>>26857428
Origins movie?
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>>26857444

I was talking about the games.
But that's a alternative timeline to the games.
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>>26857419
Whatever helps you sleep at night Richard.
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>>26857443
Then why are you talking to everyone else? You'll only get the same thing.
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>>26857408
>Trainer releases Mewtwo after retiring
But by HG/SS's Red Fight, Red isn't retired at all.
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>>26857457

That's not canon.
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The only canon pieces of information, consistent with every current and upcoming generation:
- the multitude of Pokémon species, in and of themselves, for everything in between and including Red & Green and Sun & Moon, there is a specific set of 151 species they all share;
- the classifications (or categories) of Pokémon, i.e. Pikachu is known as "the Mouse Pokémon," despite the fact that more than one Pokémon can have the same classification (Rattata, Raticate, Sandshrew, and Sandslash are also "Mouse Pokémon).

Anything else is entirely conjectural and should be taken with a grain of salt. GameFreak does not make sure all the games have seal-tight compatibility, nor do they expect anyone to perceive them as so.
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I hope you're all proud of yourselves. This is what you get for forcing your opinions on others.
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>>26857460
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>>26857476

But there is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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>>26857464
Why is that?
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>>26857510

He was joking.
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>>26857493
And I'm supposed to know how this statement ended? That was years ago.
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>>26857525

re-read your post.
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>>26857518
I'm surprised someone as severely autistic as you is so confident at identifying irony.
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>>26857501
You would have to back up this claim, maybe by elaborating on what the "Whole World" actually is. We cannot be absolutely sure that each Mewtwo that can be encountered are all the same one because, as I stated before, GameFreak does not make a conscious effort to flat-out confirm what is correct or incorrect.
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>>26857539
Then why try to convince everyone you're "right"?
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>>26856396
The games have no continuity outside of Red appearing at Mt. Silver so I guess anything goes.
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>>26857561
Black and White 2 don't exist?
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>>26857561
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>>26857561
do you not play the games? there's stuff connecting them all the time if you actually pay attention the world
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There is only one Pokemon in the Whole World.
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There is only one World in the Whole World.
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>>26856708
>separating Gens 1 to 5 and 6
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>>26856396
multiverse theory m8
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Everyone captures mewtwo, but after a while it just escapes.
Like it did with Giovany, it escaped.
it fights along side you for a while then it escapes.
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>>26857727

No.
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>>26857727
This, just look at Slugma's conflicting dex entries.
Either that or we can say an unknown group of scientists made the Mewtwo in XY like how Femtwo in the Genesect Movie went.
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>>26857738

No. Mewtwo has never been capture.
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>>26856396
Maybe when capture trainer becomes kill mewtwo makes an uncapture and finds cave in other region
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>>26857746

No. There is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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>>26857740
why not?
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>>26857771

No one has ever capture Mewtwo.
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>>26857791
No one has ever captured anything. Think about it.
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>>26857791
Red caught Mewtwo in Pokemon Origins, Richard. There's at least ONE instance where it's captured outside of the Player's Control in Postgame.
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>>26857561
Team Plasma and Colress was mentioned in XY, so:
BW-2 -> XY

Lucas/Dawn and Giratina in BW:
DPPt -> BW

For obvious reasons:
GSC/HGSS -> DPPt

Bill's quest in Sevii is just for conect Kanto and Hoenn (unlocking FRLG-/RSE trade) so:
RGB/FRLG -> RSE/ORAS


In other words: >>26857651

RGB/FRLG -> RSE/ORAS -> GSC/HGSS -> DPPt -> BW -> B2W2 -> XY
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Who the hell capitalizes "whole world" like it was some proper noun? You don't capitalize moon or the moon, which the moon's name really is the moon.
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>>26857802

but Red never officially capture Mewtwo in the games.
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>>26857828
nor did he any pokemon other than his g/s team
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>>26857800

Wally canonically capture a Ralt.
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>>26857840

I see.
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>>26857858
But what did it evolve into? Gardevoir or Gallade?
This proves the Multiverse Theory because both are canon, therefore there is more than one Mewtwo.
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>>26857858
And yet, no one ever knows what a Ralts is or what they do.
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>>26856670
you are thinking of Mewone.
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>>26857879

People know it is.
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>>26857957

No. There is only one Mewtwo.
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>>26857959
No, they don't. It is never recorded in the dex, therefore no one knows of it.
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>>26857974

Are You insane?

Enough trolling.
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>>26857160
it is not about collecting and battling. it is about love, and meeting new people.
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>>26857974
And no, this is not about the dex. If someone knew about it, information on it would exist somewhere, and it doesn't.
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>>26857982
He's using Richard-esque Logic.
Ralts is an optional capture for the player and Wally doesn't have a Dex in the games, therefore it isn't canon.
As such, every single Pokemon other than your Starter's base form and mandatory captures/gifts has absolutely nothing known about them.
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>>26857874

I said. There is only one Mewtwo in the Whole World.
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>>26857983
You don't have to love anyone to do either, and I'd hardly call it meeting people when you just bug them for pokemon and never see them again ever.
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>>26858004
Actually, it was more about the matter that no dex ever comes with the information on it, not even on any point that is supposedly after this point in time.
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>>26858004

This topic is about Mewtwo being canonically capture in the games.
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>>26858006
for me, it is about love and meeting people. this you cannot disprove. we all have our realities. you trying to disprove anything is pointless.
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>>26858045
But I just said no one gains love or meeting people from it. It's impossible, even for you. You would be telling yourself a lie.
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This thread
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>>26856396
Simple answer, Mewtwo was caught by Red/Leaf, broke out of the Ball, and then proceeded to flee from Kanto to Kalos.
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>>26856955
No because Mega Evolution doesn't exist in the remake universe. Hence "Mega"
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>>26860019

Nope. Fanon.
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>>26857160
I think the argument here is abiut whether in the official pokemon video game continuity, there exists multiple mewtwos.

Most people bring up the fact that all in game evidence points towards there being one mewtwo, itself being a failed clone of mew, hence its name: MewTWO.

Others may argue that such evidence only means there is one Kanto-based mewtwo, and that there may exist other mewtos from other experiments, or even that the original failed mew clone had managed to breed.

Either way, the multiple mewtwo theory is only speculation, with no actual in gamd evidence to back it up, except for the fact that mewtwo appears in multiple regions throughout the games, hinting that maybe multiple exist (or that mewtwo has travelled the world, which is more likely since all other evidwnce points to only one mewtwo existing)

Now, feel free to beleive one way or another, but if you want to make assertions on the canon continuity, you must be able to back these assertions with solid evidence, mere guesses, no matter how accurate or "right" they feel, can be ignored as easily as they are beleived.
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>people falling for richard
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The fact is every individual game is its own unique timeline. There is one where Red catches all the legendaries and one where he only has a team of lv100 pidgeys. There are even more universes when you consider that red, blue and yellow all have different Pokemon in the same areas as each other but we're considered equally canon to each other. And then gold and silver also had different Pokemon to the previous games and to each other and so on.

I could see every mewtwo being intended to be that same one if only because in every game in every series you play you are the first truly red-pilled trainer to exist and take advantage of the endless possibilities that are Pokemon. You might see the odd Red in a game but that red, while powerful, is a predicable NPC with a set team that you wouldn't even have in game (unless yellow is canon). There is no reason to believe this red caught mewtwo. But other than red no other trainer exists outside of your control of them. Maybe the occasional reference to them but none show up or make their appearance or team known.

There is only one trainer to ever be as powerful as you and that's the current you. All other yous might as well have not happened.

So in this scenario. Yes I think that you could say there is only one mewtwo... albeit from a multitude of slightly different timelines and dimensions.
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>>26857858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERTYBk3Txk
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>>26857808
Don't HGSS/DPPt happen at the same time?
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I think it is funny everyone says there is one... But then they have shiny and normal variants of the legendary dogs... When they are supposed to be special as well.
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Is the first pokemon movie Mewtwo the same that appears in the Genesect movie?
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>>26861021
The first movie had a male mewtwo, the genesect movie had a mega-evolving female mewtwo, so no.
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>>26860332
Which is why complaining about canon is fruitless. You can have all the evidence in the world, but does that mean someone is going to believe you? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Maybe they have their own evidence to otherwise. Maybe they don't want to listen to anything anyone has to say, no matter how well articulated. Everyone has their own beliefs, but it is up to them if those beliefs are to change. Protip: They will resist it if they can.
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I have caught multiple Arceus
Is it canon there is more than one Arceus?
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Canonically, Red never captured it, because it's still there in HG/SS.

However, there is a very good chance that the one in X/Y is different to the one in HG/SS. The anime (yeah, I know) explained the X/Y-Era Mewtwo as being a different one entirely.

So,

Red = Did not capture
Ethan/Lyra = May have captured
Calem/Serena = May have captured

There is your answer, OP.
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>>26856955
Yes it is, ignore the other retards.

Sick of people pulling out this "THERES LIKE 3 TIMELINES AND SHIT" bullshit, like Game Freak has ever fucking intended it to be thought of that way.

The "alternate universe" shit was literally just an handwave-explanation to explain Typing retcons, and Mega Evolution existing.

To make it easier, I'll not mention specific games at all;

Gen 1 = 3 -> 2/4 -> 5/6

Then you factor in that the most recent versions of a game (IE; OR/AS for Gen 3, Platinum for Gen 4) and ta-da, you have the current Timeline. That's how it always has been, since FR/LG made the first ever retcons to the timeline. (Technically G2 did with Dark/Steel Typing, but whatever)

Newfags just got confused because they started playing Pokemon in Gen 6, and thought the OR/AS Post Game was some huge new fucking revelation, when the Alternate Universe explanation has been a thing since B/W.
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Mewtwo isn't real.
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>>26861005
Technically, the HG/SS postgame happens at the same time. More specifically, after you speak with Erika in Celedon, Jasmine leaves for Sinnoh.

Then, after you have beaten Red, DPPt is finished, because you can speak to Jasmine in her Gym, and she'll trade you the Steelix she used in Sinnoh contests.
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I don't care. I will continue to use the same standard we had back in the day. Every new generation rewrites the entire pokeworld and it becomes the new standard. All previous iterations are now invalid and everything that is true now was always true. This is how they've always treated things in the franchise, and it is how I will treat them, regardless of anything said about anything being "recently discovered" or not. That's bullshit and you know it. The pokeworld has always been treated as if it has always been present.
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>>26861509
You're not wrong dude. That's how it always has been.

There IS an established timeline, but the retcons affect the entire timeline. I explained as much here: >>26861453

The OR/AS stuff was basically just a huge retcon to say that Fairies and Mega Evolution have existed from the beginning. The new standard, as you say.

People trying to make different timelines are wasting their time. Game Freak is never going to refer back to that idea again.
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>>26861453
Canon: Remakes are alternative universes
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>>26861627
By that logic, OR/AS and X/Y are somehow in different universes, and all of the stuff that contextualized HG/SS and DPPt together in the timeline are non-existent, as well as Red traveling to the Sevii Islands which contextualizes FR/LG's connection to the Hoenn part of the timeline.

Nice baseless theory, but nah, that's just completely wrong.
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>>26861647
Are you retard?
These things can happen, but not exactly as we know it.


Original:
Kanto story (RGB) -> Hoenn story(?) -> Johto story (GSC)-> Sinnoh story(?) -> Unova story(?) -> Kalos story(???)

Remake:
Kanto story (FRLG) -> Hoenn story (RSE) -> Johto story (HGSS) -> Unova story (BW/2) -> Kalos story(???)

Re remake:
Kanto story(?) -> Hoenn (ORAS) -> Johto story (?) -> Sinnoh story(?) -> Unova story(?) -> Kalos story (XY)
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>>26861647
The connection to be had from FR/LG is breaking the fourth wall.

I see nothing that breaks the matter D/P/Pt and HG/SS happen in the same world at the same time, with all the standards that entails.
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>>26861647
>>26861673
basically
http://orig00.deviantart.net/5cea/f/2016/170/3/2/timeline_of_pokemon_multiverse__ramified__by_ndelgenesis-da6ldxu.png
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>>26861678
Well, I suppose the argument can exist that FR/LG has the same mechanics as R/S/E, so they are also related.
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>>26861673
*ups, Sinnoh fail


Original:
Kanto story (RGB) -> Hoenn story(?) -> Johto story (GSC)-> Sinnoh story(?) -> Unova story(?) -> Kalos story(???)

Remake:
Kanto story (FRLG) -> Hoenn story (RSE) -> Johto story (HGSS) -> Sinnoh (DPPt) -> Unova story (BW/2) -> Kalos story(???)

Re remake:
Kanto story(?) -> Hoenn (ORAS) -> Johto story (?) -> Sinnoh story(?) -> Unova story(?) -> Kalos story (XY)
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>>26856609
>Mew gives birth = A Mewtwo born
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>>26861673
>>26861683
>>26861692
Right. I mean, you're not wrong. But there's literally no need to split it into three parts and add the question marks. The games do not change. Remakes always just replace the old versions.

That's how it always has been. Game Freak is never, EVER, going to go and show "different stories" for the Gens. Unova's story is the same, across the board, ect.

OR/AS exists to show that Fairies and Mega's existed since the beginning.

X/Y happens at the same time as B2/W2, with references to Colress learning about Mege Evolution, and this was even confirmed by an official source.

No idea why people find this shit so hard to understand. People overcomplicate it to hell and back when its actually really simple.
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Okay, here's the deal. There is a reason we took the most recent games as both the past and current version of the pokeworld. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT ANYTHING IS A "RECENT DISCOVERY". Even in the original, pokemon have been around since ancient times, our civilization was established around the presence of pokemon, our technology was built around pokemon. HOW THE HECK IS THERE NOT A MOUNTAIN OF INFORMATION ON THEM? Then again, within that persuasion, I could possibly interpret it as a parallel to what was happening to our world at the time. When pokemon was released, the Internet was new, or at least a version of it that was safer to navigate was made. It is true that compendiums of pokemon information probably already existed, but putting all that information in one place was not possible, until that point. The only alternative is to believe that the entire pokeworld are morons but you.
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>>26861708
>"Remakes always just replace the old versions"
>"Game Freak is never, EVER, going to go and show "different stories" for the Gens"

>pic related ( >>26861627 ) shows two parallel Hoenn and May versions


Congratulations, you're fucking retard
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>>26861791
That's fanart, genius.
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>>26861791
>pic related ( >>26861627 ) shows two parallel Hoenn and May versions
Alternate universes are canon but if you think that fanart is ever evidence of one single goddamn fucking thing in any game you are beyond help.
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damn the "dungeon" to capture mewtwo in XY was so sad and lazy as fuck

fuck you game freak
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>>26861887
My theory is that Mewtwo was going to get his own story like Rayquaza/Deoxys in X/Y, but they had to cut it for time, so they made a quick hole-in-the-wall, and stuck him in it.

Can't really think of another explanation for it. Not like they were scared it would be too hard, considering Zygarde got an actual dungeon. Mewtwo's was literally empty, so the only explanation that makes sense is there was more content around him that was cut for time.
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>>26861904
It was a reference, if anything.
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>>26861904
Well the birds got the same treatment but it seems everyone forgot about the birds being in XY at all considering that autist complaining about how somehow Zapdos (in RBY) was harder to catch than Zygarde and muh catch rate of 3 (you know, the same catch rate Zygarde has. And also the same catch rate as the actual Zapdos in the same game as said Zygarde.)
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>>26861791

>fan art
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The answer is quite simple, actually. According to the Delta Episode and the multiverse canon, every trainer's adventure is just one universe with its own history. Therefore, there is one Mewtwo in the world and it has not been captured yet in this universe. That is to say, Red found him and maybe he captured it, then Gold found him in a universe where Red didn't and maybe he captured it, then Xavier found it in a universe where neither Red or Gold caught it.
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>>26856510
There are two Mewtwo in the anime.
Three if you count Mastermind.
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>>26863907
>ashnime
>canon
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>>26857706
Timelines my nigga.

Gen 1-2 timeline
Gen3-5 timeline
Gen6 timeline

Get with the times.
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>>26861453
You're wrong and you can prove it by in the actual games.

When a Pokemon is transferred between gens, it'll say something like "a long passage through time" and when it's transferred between gens, it'll say "from a faraway place".

It's only when you transfer from Gen3-5 to Gen6, that you'll get "traveled through space and time". Space and Time being dimensional/universal travel. This is made even more evident with OR/AS. When you transfer a Hoenn mon from RSE to OR/AS, you get "traveled through space and time from the Hoenn region". This wouldn't make sense unless it's a different Hoenn from a different universe/timeline/dimension.

Zinnia was right.
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>>26865528
No shit, you're missing the point. The timeline remains exactly the same. That shit with Zinnia is just to retcon in an explanation for Fairies and Mega's.

The rest of the games happened exactly as-is. Nothing really changes.
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I think the actual cannon story of the games ends when you finish the league and become champion, all the post game is non cannon
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>>26867337
By that logic;

>Red never went to Sevii Islands and secured the connection to Hoenn
>Ethan/Lyra never went to Kanto, and never even met Red
>May/Brendan never stopped Deoxys
>Lucas/Dawn never bothered to go to that last Island, and never stopped Galactics final plan
>Hilda/Hilbert never became Champions at all, and only explored half the Region before fucking off, and never helped Looker catch the 7 Sages.
>Rosa/Nate never met Alder's grandson, and never participated in the PWT, despite it being, y'know, RIGHT there,
>Calem/Serena never helped Looker rescue the orphaned girl Emma, or stop Flare's final plan, and literally nobody has ever seen Zygarde or knows it exists.

And that's just scratching the surface with the most basic important stuff. Post-Games often have way too much important stuff to just say that they never happened.
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>>26856472
>4chan summed up
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>>26856664
>>26856678
You guys are alright
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>>26861444
The anime also has a baby lugia and a mother lugia
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>>26863684
What about BW2. Is it canon that the trainer from BW never caught the legends?
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>>26867863
Yes, it is canon that Hilda/Hilbert did not catch any Legends aside from Reshiram/Zekrom
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>>26865457
And what confirms that this doesn't stand in the games as well?
All signs point to there being multiple of a species
Especially when it is a result of cloning.
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>>26863907
Uhhh, isn't Mastermind Mewtwo the same as the first one? Or wait... Wasn't Mastermind Mewtwo not even real?

I barely remember that shit.
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>>26868306
Mastermind Mewtwo was a hologram. It eventually became a monstrosity with many tumorous heads sprouting from its body as the Mastermind rewrote its code. Shit was creepy.
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>>26867249
Nah fuck you, I stand by what I said.
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>>26869310
Then you stand by being wrong.
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>>26869313
I'm literally right though. Please go ahead and try to disprove anything I said.
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>>26869318
Nothing you said is wrong, except that you claim the rest of the games never happened in our current canon timeline, when they did.
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What legendary Pokemon are not unique?
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>>26856457
The scientists who created mewtwo made it genderless for the sole reason of preventing it from creating more of itself in case it escaped

they only ever made one mewtwo, the reason why you can capture it in multiple games is because muh multiverse
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>>26870221
If you really wanna be technical, the Hoopa rings in OR/AS show that any Legendary can be plucked out of a dimension and brought into our own.

But to answer your question;

>1 Arceus
>1 Giratina, Dialga, Palkia (Plus an extra that was gifted to Ethan/Lyra by Arceus)
>1 Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem (From the unseen Original Dragon)
>1 Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza

That's it. Everything else either is confirmed to not be unique (IE; The Regi's) or is left unsaid, but presumed to not be unique, just rare.
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>>26861005
DPPt begins when the news reporters arrive at the Lake of Rage because there is a Red Gyarados.

So Gold/Silver begins some days/weeks before, supposedly.

Also, Battle Frontier is first in Johto and then goes to Sinnoh, because Barry says his dad's come back or something.

So GSC/HGSS -> DPPt even by a little margin (and some things happen at the same time)
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>>26870345
There's also a bunch of dialogue with Jasmine that helps thread the timeline together nicely, but yes, you are correct. HG/SS comes first, but only very slightly. DPPt actually finishes around the same time HG/SS does, with Jasmine returning back to Johto and trading you her Steelix.

They're more or less happening alongside each other, just like Gen 1 and 3, and B2/W2 with X/Y.
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>There's only one Mewtwo in the world
>There are two Mega Stones
>Trevor catches one in the same game that there's one in a cave
>Anime clearly has two Mewtwo
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>>26870336
>(Plus an extra that was gifted to Ethan/Lyra by Arceus)
That probably isn't canon.
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>>26871752
I don't see why not. The Event was pretty big and dumped a lot of lore.
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Every protagonist canonically catches the legendaries but releases them after getting their dex entry due to their importance to the world. Or in Mewtwo's case, letting a being as intelligent as any human being go free and do what it wants.
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I think that regardless of most of the crap people have been saying, never having been captured and being one of a kind is kinda of Mewtwo's thing, ya' know? Like, it seem like it becomes less cool the moment it canonically gets captured or another of its kind is created/born or something. I mean, it sorta lost a lot of its charm once arguably more "seemingly" powerful legendaries were released with each new gen, and Mewtwo's "one of a kind" status is one of the few cool things it has left going for it desu.
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>>26861944

To be fair, it is much easier to catch stuff with a catch rate of 3 now thanks to false swipe, O-powers, new Pokeballs, and critical captures. It just feels like the same amount of work since there's more variables to account for and thus need to reset more often.
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Blaine was Mewtwo's trainer in the manga.
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>Mewtwo was caught nd then released
>Mewtwo can breed
>Something to do with the cloning process caused Mew or Mewtwo to continually mutiply
>XY Mewtwo is from an alternate universe where it didn't get caught
>Mewtwo killed Red and/or Ethan after being captured
Pick at least one.
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>>26867447
So what your saying is, moot is Mewtwo? And now that has moot, Google has capture Mewtwo?
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