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Defend this
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no, it's dumb and kalos was shit
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>>26855537
What's the point of putting every legendary in each game? It makes it seem a lot less special to me.
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>>26855581
It was important in XY and ORAS because of all the recent changes like Synchronize stuff or scenarios in the game diaallwoing you to get good ones to usez and probably the most important reason they did it is because of the new thing where legendaries have minimum 3 perfect IVs.
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>>26855609
Can someone translate for me?
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>>26855673
I think it says "the pleasure of being cummed inside"
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>>26855579
/thread
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>>26855679
Well, I do, but that's aside the point.
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>>26855579
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We all know Kalos was rushed. No need to defend it.
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Durr it's ok guyzzzzz they'll fix it when we return to kalos in sun and moon right? #gen6.5

/vp/ please kill me if this happens
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>>26855537
>"unknown dungeon"
>there isn't actually a dungeon to complete


WOW
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Replaying HG and actually seeing the box legendary have a 10 floor dungeon felt really bizarre after having not played it in years.
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>>26855579
i liked the gimmick of that forest but i feel like it should been bigger just like your picture
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>>26855537

Pokemon has always been easy.
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>>26857289
Exactly.
So why is an easy game getting easier.
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>>26857270
Find a bigger one, then.
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>>26855537
I loved Kalos but it's undefendable
Legendaries should only be catchable in their home region
If GF doesnt want to bother making proper dungeons for previous legendaries, just respect this logic
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>>26857257

That's why it's called the unknown dungeon.
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>>26857257
>"unknown dungeon"
>contains something other than Unknown
Thanks, Gamefreak.
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>>26857337
>Unknown
>not knowing how to spell pokemon
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>>26857350
I guess not
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>>26857264
What's bizarre is Legendaries having story rather than just being placed there
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>>26857788
If a legendary doesn't have a legend/story behind it, is it really legendary?
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>>26855537
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>>26857946
hehehe
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>>26855581
Because Pokemon is, and has always been, a game for children. This means many things, both good and (mostly) shit, but part of it is that most of the target audience is expected to age out of it within the space of a single generation. Whether that actually happens is a different matter entirely, and really shouldn't have as much of an impact on Game Freak's decision making process as it does. In order to make it possible for each cohort to "catch 'em all", then, Game Freak has gone of their way to make it possible for every Pokemon to be captured within the space of a single generation of games.

Unless something big changes, it's only going to get more ridiculous from here. Hopefully the phasing out of the old guard at Game Freak brings a different direction to Pokemon, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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>>26857999
I still have no fucking idea what happened between BW2, not the best games but still had a slight challenge to fucking X and Y with its 2 trainers with 6 Pokemon. Like fucking how do you do that?
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>>26857946
nice
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>>26855537
Mazes are hard, but it really shouldn't be as easy as walking through a doorway.
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>>26857946
wut?
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>>26857999
This is really a big problem that Game Freak has. Instead of doing research on the demographics of their base and acting accordingly they just assume that it's always going to be a new group of kids and just about every game now is dumbed down just a little more than the last. Like every fucking time they talk about how most people will be playing the games for the first time but I've never seen any evidence of this. Is there any other developer that is this out of touch with their base?
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>>26855537
Pandering to genwunners.
Not a defense, just the reason.
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>>26858148
BW2 were the 8th and 9th Pokemon games for the DS, XY were the first two Pokemon games for the 3DS. No surprise that the former were overall better than the latter, especially given how big of a jump it was to go from DS to 3DS.

Also 6 Pokemon teams are actually really rare. You get the Champion, a rival battle or two, and Magikarp man and that's usually it outside of rematches if I recall correctly. Ghetsis and N were the first evil team bosses to use full teams, and Gen V also had Cynthia and the legendary Veteran Shaun on top of that, which made X and Y all the more jarring... especially since they lacked rematches.
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>>26859482
Anon put it a little off but what I guess you could say is that if you took the average Pokemon per trainer for BW/2 and compared it with XY you would find very different results. That's also not counting how dungeons for legendaries among other things were scrapped (Birds were "roaming but eventually settled down in a single room cave, Mewtwo, Xerneas/Yveltal which basically had a few lines of lore and were obtainable after a short series of easy battles, compared to HGSS as another anon said or even fucking ORAS got it right ffs). Add on to that the fact that routes were shorter and you never had to go far until the next Pokecenter, dungeons were lowered (other than Victory Road and maybe Reflection Cave they were all a joke), gyms felt a lot shorter, and encounters with Team Flare were pretty half assed (a couple of brief encounters including one that should have been large because of the total size of the power plant but they got around that by locking most of the buildings). Not even going into difficulty here, but you can tell that they really cut out the amount of actual content and replaced it with filler text to give the impression of more to do.
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>>26859192
its in defense mode
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>>26859327
Right? I'm a dedicated gen 1 player and feel less and less connection with the games. I don't expect GF to solely focus on people my age who have been playing for 20 years but it's a little insulting for them to celebrate 20 years and not at least recognize that some of us who got the game on day one exist. I'm not asking for anything crazy, maybe a harder game mode or something.
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>>26859327
Cater to me!!! Fuck off. GF has been killing it monetarily for 20 years. They don't need to change what has been working for them just to please you. Remember all your whining and complaining means nothing when there are people who are not miserable and enjoy the games as they are. When you develop a billion dollar franchise and keep it operational for 20 years with no end in sight then you can pretend to know what you are talking about. With every new game GF makes an emphasis on how much they listen to forums and social media with those same people thinking each game is worse and worse. GF is smart enough to tell apart the whiny little bitches like, you with your unfounded yearning for a more challenging game, from sensible people with actual complaints about the game.

You are in a fucking board solely dedicated to pokemon. You have been catered to enough. GF is catering to the future generation who will be begging GF to cater to them. You short sighted shit head.
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>>26855537
>Gauntlet of shitty pokemon you can either be underleveled for, or have a perfect understanding of typing and easily breeze through, but still generally have to deal with a labyrinth for a legendary

>versus moving to a new tileset and finding the legendary standing there waiting for you

Spoilers: Neither is good
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>>26859852
>blah blah blah I'm a whiny faggot

Pretty much is what I read from your post. You seem triggered.
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>>26859852
a bloo bloo boo
If anyone's the child it's you who is complaining that people are not happy with how Gamefreak is running things. Why am I obligated to approve of every decision? I choose to pay for the games, or I don't. I don't owe them anything. They don't owe me or anyone else anything, but they may want to be careful if they want to keep our business because nothing lasts forever.

By your logic, since anyone would enjoy some game I guess no one ever has a right to be upset about something. Gamefreak has never said anything about meeting specific fan demands other than perhaps for making ORAS but with regards to the actual game they've done nothing but do the opposite of what people ask.

Also read my post again you dribbling retard. I said nothing about the game being too easy, what I said in other posts was that they've been cutting content from the game and that's a bad thing not because it makes it easy because the game can still be easy and fun, but the lack or even any effort required is taking all of the fun out.

Also, if people on a Pokemon board of all places are upset, that should really tell you something, shouldn't it. Outside of the fanbase most people think the franchise went to shit long ago albeit for the wrong reasons.

Then again for some reason I suspect >>26859745 and >>26859852 are the same fag but that's probably just me being irrational, would be laff if true.
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>>26859900
long ago albeit for the wrong reasons.

>Then again for some reason I suspect >>26859745 and >>26859852 are the same fag but that's probably just me being irrational

I'd say your irrational. I'm >>26859745 and >>26859890 but not >>26859852 so chill out bro
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>>26859926
Well I figured that but I'm tired and he seemed like the type of faggot to samefag
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>>26859931
I got ya. Yeah, he's a whiny little cunt
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>>26859900
>They don't owe me or anyone else anything, but they may want to be careful if they want to keep our business because nothing lasts forever.
They seem to be doing just fine without your help. Franchise has been going strong for last 20 years.

>Gamefreak has never said anything about meeting specific fan demands
I said they listen to the fans, I didn't say they actually implement what the fans want. If they did pokemon would just be a hentai game where you got to fuck pokemon and trainers. For fan that says they hate a game, pokemon or a generation there is an equal of fans who love it. Just look at Greninja, just look at gen 1. Look at anything pokemon related and you will see fans never agree.
I see them mention how they listen to fans all the time. All I found now is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC-uLg_5RIA&t=40m51s

>I said nothing about the game being too easy
>just about every game now is dumbed down just a little more than the last

>Outside of the fanbase most people think the franchise went to shit long ago albeit for the wrong reasons.
They are called genwunners and ridiculed for their retarded beliefs. You want GF to make a game for people who don't like pokemon anymore?

>Then again for some reason I suspect >>26859745 and >>26859852 (You) are the same fag but that's probably just me being irrational, would be laff if true.
Better luck next time.
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>>26860018
Don't waste your energies.
Also, why do you complain too much about that? Is just an OPINION.
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>>26859852
>billion dollar
>japanese company
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>>26858148
>not the best games but still had a slight challenge to fucking X and Y with its 2 trainers with 6 Pokemon.
Ebin.
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>>26855537
Yeah ok
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>>26857946
Underrated post.
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>>26855673
He's an idiot.

Reason they do it is to make sure you can catch every pokemon in each gen, so that kids don't have to play 4 different games to get their favorite legendary pokemon. You think about it, say Mewtwo was only available in FRLG and not HGSS/XY. You'd have to play through FRLG, THEN play through DPP/HGSS, THEN BW/2, and then pay $5 for Pokebank to transfer it up to XY/ORAS. Even assuming you bought the games used, that over a $100 investment and almost 120 hour playtime to get a mewtwo from gen iii. No normal 8 year old kid would go through that. They're making the games easier because kids won't play through one whole game. Or, you can stick it in a cave in XY.
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>>26860546
Holy shit this
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>>26862204
I don't think this really holds true anymore, what with the whole Global Trade system, Wonder Trade and so on. Any Pokemon from Gen 3 onwards can be traded up, and in Gen 7 you can even transfer from Gen I ports. If a kid wants a Mewtwo he can just trade for it, they don't need to shoehorn every legendary into every gen anymore. I know that technically it won't work in the long run because of hax but it might be nice if they at least ATTEMPTED some scarcity of legendaries in the next few generations
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>>26860546
Heh.
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>>26862252
I'm good with the way it is. I like making living dexes, so having all legends catchable each gen works for me
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>>26857359
This picture is amazing
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>>26855537
The above image is literally fake difficulty. A better example, maybe one with items or rewarding trainers, would suffice.
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>>26859745
Fuck off faggot.
I feel more connected with the newer games than ever before.
Quit playing pokemon wrong
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>>26855581

Because if it's done well, it's extremely fun, and makes catching them all more attainable.

For instance, imagine if all legendaries had a Darkrai, Arceus or Shaymin style task you had to complete before you could catch them? The scenarios would be great.

Also so you don't have to spend a ridiculous amount getting HGSS.
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>>26857946
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>>26859482
Late to the thread, but Bw2 had

Cheren
Bianca
Hugh
Cynthia
Alder
Colress
N (1,2,3,4)
Ghetsis
Marshall
Courney
Shauntal
Grimsely
Iris+Rematch
Veteran guy

X and Y had
Serena
Diantha
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>>26857946
Took me 20 seconds
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>>26857946
Took me a moment.
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>>26857946
Top fucking kek.
You, anon, deserve a cookie.
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>>26855579
Higher-res image here.
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>>26857270
>>26857307
see >>26865898
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>>26857946
Holy shit, well played.
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>>26857946
well fucking played
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>>26862287
Exploring a map is fake difficulty now?
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>>26857946
(you) deserve another one of theese.
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>>26860546
Extremely underrated post
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>>26862355
Will Victini be the last legendary to have an item distribution rather than just being handed to you?
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