Is there a more cancerous Pokemon in OU?
Special sweeper fairies and Zard Y are the only Pokemon that can reliably beat this thing, and it helps perpetuate the cancer that is stall.
>>26834234
Talonflame probably
>>26834234
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 8 Def / 200 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Roost
Just don't switch on it on a Will-O-Wisp and you'll be beating stall in no time, specially if they run Clefable as their unaware wall.
Landorus
>>26834335
>tfw your gliscor gets burned and you have no cleric
![036Clefable[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lKrDDiM.png "036Clefable[1].png")
>le Thunder Wave faec
>le Calm Mind faec
>>26834523
>My stat boosts work but yours don't :^D
Literally that kid on the playground
>>26834523
>Thunder Wave
>Mega-Sableye
Unaware b& when? I fucking hate all of those Quagsires.
>>26834234
Both Zards beat it. It can't burn X, and Y just nukes it.
>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 112 Def Mega Sableye: 192-226 (63.1 - 74.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 144+ SpD Mega Sableye in Sun: 225-265 (74 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And becuase I know someone is going to go "Muh Foul Play!"
>+1 0 Atk Mega Sableye Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 211-250 (71 - 84.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>>26834614
Substitute Seperior. The only things on stall that can really stop it are healthy Clefable and Amoongus.
>>26834637
First turn:
>Flare Blitz
>Recover
Second turn:
>Flare Blitz
>Foul Play
M-Sableye wins.
>>26834234
Chansey.
>>26834666
>Satan doesn't know how to click DD and then kill.
Sad desu.
>>26834523
I thought unaware disregards Clefable's boosts too?
>>26834523
>Thunderwave
>Against a Pokémon with magic bounce.
>>26834335
Gliscor is somewhat reliable vs it, though not completely because of foul play. So I wouldn't count on it.
>>26834909
Nope, that's one of many reasons why Unaware is annoying. Clefable can use Calm Mind and Quagire can use Curse
>>26834335
the chemo.
it actually beats most of the pokemon mentioned ITT.
>>26834234
MSableye also centralizes stall heavily and forces its usage unless you want to lose to any other MSableye stall team. Really gross mon no matter which side you are on.
>>26834234
Fuck you, Sableye is a premier stall breaker, don't blame the current obsesion with stall on this qt
>>26834234
git gud
>>26834234
Sabeleye is fine. Literally just use either a powerful fire type or a fairy type. Landorus-T and Chansey are the ones that shouldn't be around.
>>26835120
Foul play is still a 3HKO at +2
>>26834234
I started running the screaming fairies on my team, and sableye hasn't been any trouble sense.
DESU, to be set for OU, you need: a screaming fairy (preferably with specs or calm mind), a decent enough fire type to scare away your fairy counters, and something to deal with Lando-T....good luck with that last one...
>>26835308
Well, it ended up becoming what it once broke.
A fucking cancerous piece of stalling shit
>>26835061
fucking kek
>>26834253
ok you underage fucks here we go
this is a new meme
spread it
or dont
fags
The answer is always Chansey/Blissey, they've been a cancer in competitive pokemon since gen1.
>>26835507
Again, that's what stallfags run. Just like gliscor is a stallbreaker with stall potential, sableye is just that. Just because assholes run it as a stallmon doesn't mean it is one. Hell, it is better as a stallbreaker than a stallmon itself, and given its ability swap that is probably what GF had in mind
>>26835507
>M-Sableye was made to stop stallmons
>Ended up becoming one of the best stallmons
>"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
>>26835485
REMOVE GENIES
REEEEEE
>>26834234
Don't you shit talk my wife
Do you guys have any ideas for a physical M-sableye set? I feel like a power-up-punch set with recover could have some potential and I've always loved offensive more than stall
>>26835485
Weavile reporting for anti-lando-T duty
People who hate stall are incredibly autistic.
>>26838552
>Anybody who doesn't want to play 60 turns against my team of pokemon that have no attacks
Stall is not the sin of the century, but you're fucking stupid if you think people are not allowed to dislike such an annoying strategy
>>26838576
You're allowed to dislike it, but to treat a completely normal part of the game as if it is the cancer killing it, is completely autistic.
And the entire argument for "but the battles are sooooo long" is completely garbage. Why do you want the battle to end so quickly? Just to get into another battle? What is the enjoyment in that over the same battle?
>>26838591
I feel as if stall is a valuable strategy, and it should be, but people are not wrong to say its overcentralizing when stall is the best strategy.
Out of the top teams right now, most of them are stall sets, which results in most lower level players seeking success turn to stall, and it becomes a chore.
Battling should present diversity. It should test you to use strategies effectively and adapt. The stall team perpetuation only works to eliminate that aspect little by little. Itsalmost as the time the top 10 teams were the exact same.
Again, I think stall is a valid strategy, and I can find fun in battling with, or against a stall team, but you have to admit its becoming a cancerous stain in the meta.
A mon more cancerous? Hm...
Eviolite Fucking chansey
>>26834666
>Not Dragon Dancing in the first turn
>Not one-shotting the riot shield Hopkinsville Goblin
Step up, Satan-senpai.
>>26838745
>Riot shield Hopskinsville Goblin
I love that name, if only there was no limit to nickname length
>>26834873
>>26838745
>Switch Charizard in
>Get smacked by Foul Play
ggnore
