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KALOS ALMOST CONFIRMED?
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TL;DR

>Gen 6 has a strong Gen 1 inspiration, as well as being France-inspired
>After a years break in the annual release, we skip to Gen 7
>Zygarde's new forms and moves have been reallocated to Gen 7 content
>Following the Gen 1-inspired Kalos, and the obviously Gen 3-inspired OR/AS
>Gen 7 could be Gen 2-inspired
>Magearna, despite being a Gen 7 Pokémon, is HEAVILY Parisian inspired.
>The background during Magearna's part of the trailer is the only one that can't be located on Alola's map
>But matches perfectly to the flower garden area in Kalos

Returning to Kalos is all but confirmed at this point.

Gen 2, 2.0.

We're heading back into another golden age, lads.
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>>26822849
Kalos was the Johto of the international "reboot"
Alola is the Hoenn
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>>26822869
Kalos was heavily inspired by Gen 1 though, much MUCH moreso than Unova.

That's a very interesting picture though, although it falls apart when you consider the OR/AS games.

We're really due for a northern-themed Region though. It's been almost a decade since Sinnoh, and the closest we have got is Unova in Winter time.
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>>26822898
>although it falls apart when you consider the OR/AS games
why they are just remakes
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>>26822914
I guess.

But then you have to consider that Unova was NOT about technology, but rather the balance between it and Nature. Kanto definitely did not follow that theme in the slightest.
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>>26822849
That sounds quite plausible since there is indeed no yellow flower garden in Alola, on the map at least. And also its rather obvious the lvl 50 Magearna wont be avaible until postgame

I dont know, we'll see
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>>26822869
I´d like another "cold" region
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>>26822849
What the fuck is this creature presenting the video?
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>>26822943
>Kanto definitely did not follow that theme in the slightest.

Actually...
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>>26822971
>And also its rather obvious the lvl 50 Magearna wont be avaible until postgame
We'll be able to obtain a level 50 Magearna through a QR code, said code more than likely giving her to us as a Mystery Gift type deal and us being unable to catch her in any way.
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>>26822869
>cold
I laughed.
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I like gen 1 as it was when I first got to play it in 1999, stop molesting it and retconning shit.
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>>26823014
But its doubtfull you'll be able to get lvl 50 Magearna early in the game because that would be broken as fuck so the QR code will be probably usable in the postgame
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>>26822849
>Gen 3 game is inspired by Gen 3.
Wow.
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>>26823267
In gen 6 we can get level 100 legendary Pokemon through mystery gift, and there's no limitation for how far into the game you have to be to receive the event.
I don't see why it would be any different for gen 7.
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>>26822849
i wouldn't mind this.
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>>26823363
>>26823267
Every single game since B/W has launched with a Level 10 "starter" Event. Probably to encourage people to buy the games at launch, for the exclusive Pokémon. The Events end just after Christmas, unsurprisingly.

B/W = Victini
B2/W2 = Genesect
X/Y = Torchic
OR/AS = Shiny Metang

They always come at low levels so kids don't ruin their first experience of the game (although they sure as hell would make the games easier, I guess)

So Magearna is possibly this games starter Event.
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>Gen 6 has a strong gen 1 inspiration
No it doesn't. Pandering =/= inspiration
Gen 4 and 5 have more gen 1 inspiration than gen 6
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>>26823462
>Pretty much all of Gen 1 Dex is in Kalos
>First Forest is literally Viridian.
>Snorlax blocks the path until you find a Flute
>Mewtwo in a cave
>The regional trio is fucking birds
>Region is a ring around a large city
>Genwun fucking Starters, and a Lapras
Uhhh. Yeah, it's pandering, but it's clearly supposed to evoke inspiration from Gen 1.

I think Alola will be similar to that of Johto. We've already seen a Tin Tower replica on the map, and the first wild encounter in the gameplay footage? A fucking Ledyba.
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>>26823462
Gen 5 is garbage m8
It's tiem to accept it
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>>26823490
>Pretty much all of Gen 1 Dex is in Kalos
Not inspiration
>First Forest is literally Viridian.
Not inspiration
>Snorlax blocks the path until you find a Flute
Not inspiration
>The regional trio is fucking birds
Not inspiration. This is just them reusing them due to time constraint
>Region is a ring around a large city
Reaching.
>Genwun fucking Starters, and a Lapras
Not inspiration.

>>26823509
I never stated my opinion on games. Don't turn this into genwar bait
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>Lillie is a mysterious character that's really important
>looks like she's from Kalos
>sounds coming from her travel bag
>most people guess she has a Zygarde Core
>Zygarde is supposed to be the protector of and is associated with the Land of Kalos
>the anime features Team Flare trying to collect all the Zygarde Cores for nefarious purposes
>Bonnie has one of the Cores which prevents Flare from creating Perfect Zygarde
>Lillie doesn't like to see Pokemon fight

Put it all together and you get a clear image. Lillie has the last Zygarde Core Team Flare needs to complete their evil plan. She has since fled Kalos and is hiding in Alola. Seeks the protection and assistence of the very manly Professor. Team Flare follows her to Alola and spend the game trying to get the Core from her. Eventually you go back to Kalos to defeat them and/or rescue Lillie.
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>>26823622
Your character is also foreign to Alola.

You can put 2 and 2 together there.
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>>26822849
>People think we will go back to Kalos
>There are people that want to go back to Kalos

Why would you want to go back to the worst region.
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>>26823854
>worst region
>not johto
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>>26823893
>>26823854

Fuck off. Hoenn is undeniably the worst, and even rendered worthless now that we have a proper tropical region.
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>>26823854
>the worst region.

That would be Unova
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>>26822849
>that intro
Are you trying to kill me? I'm not watching that shit.
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>>26823854
Yeah its better to have no post game at all right?
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>>26823937
>
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>>26823937
I think you mean best.
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>>26823854
What was wrong with Kalos?
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>>26824011
For most people the reason is "it exist"
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>>26824011
IMO the mesh of environments didn't work well. They tried to cram too much in. You have a swamp really close to a desert, and then a route inexplicably set in blizzard, which isn't even connected to the Ice Gym.

However the first half of the Region was gorgeous. Basically, everything up to Laverre City was perfect (excluding the Desert), then the game shits the bed.

Still honestly one of my favorite Regions though.
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Will she return?
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>gen6.5fags are still trying, despite the fact that they have been REKT several times

You like pain, don't you?
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>>26826180
I'm not a Gen 6.5 though, you dingaling. I'm comparing this to returning to Kanto in Gen 2.

This is very much a Gen 7 idea. Did you even read the OP?
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>>26822849
>Gen 6 has a strong Gen 1 inspiration
you mean gen 5 does.
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I hope this isn't right. Why return to Kalos immediately after X and Y gen? Give it a rest! We're already playing ORAS with all the bodies of water we're going to be navigating through, why add another reskin on top of an existing one? I want each gen to have its own distinct aesthetic and features is that too much to ask?
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>>26826411
>Why return to Kalos immediately after X and Y gen?
Because there's still obviously unfinished business there and the same thing happened with Kanto in gen 2.

>We're already playing ORAS with all the bodies of water we're going to be navigating through
There don't seem to be any water routes connecting important places if you look at the map, it appears you only travel through islands by boat and that any water route is of the small side area kind like Unova and Kalos.
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>>26822869
>Kalos was Johto
I feel insulted
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>>26826457
>any water route is of the small side area kind like Unova and Kalos.
They learned their lesson from Hoenn.

Still don't know why they caved in and remade it at all. It's clear they didn't want to, seeing as they were 2 years too late for the anniversary, and put fuck all effort into it.

The best parts of OR/AS were the parts that they replaced, like Sea Mauville.
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>>26827085
Third is the one for me. Perfect shade of delicious brown.
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>>26822849
Why the fuck we would do gen 2 for the third god damn time and completely ignore fucking gen 4?

fuck off
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>>26827085
Black hair for me. I hope she is confirmed the default/canon one. We never get short haired protagonists (excluding haircut-Serena) and we've never had a pale/black haired girl either. Dawn had really dark hair in some older art, but is pretty much universally drawn with blue hair, and her in-game sprite seems clearly blue-haired.

Speaking of which, why no more colorful hair for protags? To make certain NPC's stand out more?

But anyways, I would understand and accept the brown one, what with the Hawaii inspiration and all.

Just please, not the blonde. We JUST had Serena.

And the 4th one is repulsive.
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>>26827203
Chill out. If patterns are to believed, then remakes for Gen 4 are next, or at the very least, a Region similar to Sinnoh, with northern themes.

See:>>26822869
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>>26822869
>cold
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Mr. Bonding will return
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>>26825981
>X and Y
>Gifted to you out of nowhere by a bunch of weirdos claiming they are your friends.

Least exiting way to choose your starter
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>>26828986
Yeah, being told they're your friends, rather than meeting and bonding with them, is always the worst way to go about it.
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>>26822849
Yep, I really believe it's possible we return to kalos.

>"it all comes together"
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I hope we'll return to Kalos, not that i believe it will happen but it would be cool. Having 2 regions again, in times when they can do it the right way (without destroying any fun of old region like they did with Kanto in gen 2) would be crazy good
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Crazy autistic line of thinking here, but Kalos=Gen 1/Alola=gen 2 right? Sinnoh remakes this gen would tie into this as well, as gen 3 and gen 4 are heavily tied into those gens with the remakes. So it makes sense that Neo Kanto would have ties with Hoenn while Neo Johto would have ties to Sinnoh.
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>>26829657
>this is what the ashnime has devolved into

Do people defend this?
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OR!
Maybe, just maybe! There's a similar area as the pokemon village from Kalos in Alola
there was one in Unova too, after all
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>>26831091
>Not wanting to see Serena thigs

Totally not gay
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could we maybe fucking go back to any region OTHER than kalos?
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>>26822999
Anon, that's a human being.
I don't know what you are, but they're quite common around here

>>26826180
they're not 6.5fags just because they revive the same theory we see in every single gen
>In BW we're going back to Kanto because the games mirror them so much
>In XY we're going back to Kanto/Unova because of blahblahblah
>Alright, but at least we're gonna go to the southern part of the region in the third version
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>>26831091
>Thinking you can only battle with your pokemon
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>>26829657
>Those
>Fucking
>Thighs

They CANNOT keep getting away with this!
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>>26822869
I still think Sinnoh's the coolest region. The fact that so much of the games map has to deal with huge-ass Mt. Coronet in the center is pretty cool.
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>>26823937
I'd agree with you if B2/W2 never came out. Vanilla Unova is fucking awful.
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>>26825981
Where does the footage of the XY one comes from?
Is that from the Ashnime or is that some animated trailer for the games?
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>>26833563
I think it's from an animated X/Y Trailer, similar to the ones they did for B2/W2 and OR/AS
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>>26822849
The Sundials/Moondials in Anistar City are a good indication that we will return to Kalos. Also, Zygarde-chan will most likely have its own Delta Episode.
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>>26823014
>QR Code mystery gifts
Injecting just became so much easier.

I deeply hope they don't do this, or at least do it in such a way that exploiting it is harder than printing out the right code to have your level 100 shiny HA Greninja with fucking V-Create or some shit delivered to your local Pokecenter.
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>>26833806
>Zygarde-chan will most likely have its own Delta Episode.
Episode Z

I've suspected as much.
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>>26823014
well so far, using what we know about the qr reader, scanning Magearna would simply show where she lives / can be found. Not actually give her
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>>26823854
Kalos was a beautiful region, the only problem with it is that it didn't reach its full potential. I was hoping a Z game would fix that but now the best chance I have is S/M letting us go back, or wait 10-15 years for the Gen 6 remake
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>>26831080
I doubt we'll get gen 4 remakes until the next counsel.
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>>26823893
the shittiest taste I've ever seen and it's a gardefag no less.
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>>26823981
The marine tube is like 7 badges in, why the fuck isn't Tepig an Emboar yet??
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>>26822849
>>26822869
>MUHHHHH P-P-PATTTERRRNSSSS
What the fuck give up already.
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>>26823622
Wow this really sounds like an extremely plausible theory. I actually believe this could be it. Screencapping to see how close it is when we do find out for sure.
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>>26822849
>wanting to go back to kalos

Slit your wrists.
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of course, you think Gamefreak is going to just blueball you with the locked power plant doors and the "you're not the one" hex maniac?

It'll all come together in due time
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>>26835506
Ever Stone
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>>26835506
Gotta get that level 45 Flare Blitz.
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>>26823854
But no one mentioned Sinnoh?
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>>26823622

Makes a lot of sense, thanks for sharing.
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>>26827224
>We never get short haired protagonists
What is May.
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>>26837864
>What is May
A huge MAYstake....
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>>26822898
>>26827235
Please Game Freak, turn Scandinavia into a pokeland! It'd be conveniently close to Kalos too
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>>26825981
>Birch running from a Poochyena
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>>26822869
CANADA CONFIRMED GEN 8
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>>26823000
Kanto in Pokemon is the Kanto region of Japan. Tokyo is a city in Kanto in real life and in Pokemon it's place on the map matches up with Celadon (and Saffron. Celadon itself is most likely Shinjuku, Tokyo's commecial center, and Saffron is Marunouchi, Tokyo's business center). How is this hard for people?
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>>26838260
I doubt it. If the 8th region is really again a 'cold' region then it's most likely in Europe, Russia or somewhere far South. Like Argentina or New Zealand. North America already had Unova, and Hawaii is a state of USA (even though it's technically Oceanian).
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>>26838264
Current Kanto region in Japan is basically Tokyo metropolis
Not a single forest and the few pathches of green are parks

The Kanto in pokemon game is similar to the one of before WW2: lot of nature with urban areas more scattered around it
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>>26835494
>>26823927
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>>26838352
My bets are on Russia. It'd be cool to add the Russian language option at the same time.
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>most likely just some area that isn't shown on the map

>BUT IT COULD BE KALOS! CONFIRMED!

fuck off
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no we are not going back to kalos because gamefreak is not going to redesign kalos from fucking 0 since they no longer use grid and the graphics look more detailed
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Why do people WANT to go back to Kalos anyways? It was such an awful region.
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>>26828642
I don't remember this at all.
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>>26838637
>they will never revisit Kalos in a third game
>they will never try to improve Kalos
>they will just bury the memory and start again with a new generation instead

I didn't like Kalos, but it's really too bad that they aren't going to try to salvage what they had at least.
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>>26837864
The worst protagonist and she doesnt fucking count. Fuck her.
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>>26822849
I would love to see that but :

- I am parisian, how is the pokemon so heavly inspired by Paris ? Like the clockgear ?
- nowaday still having hope into games with lot of content is kinda hard for me. :(
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>>26841656
>I am parisian, how is the pokemon so heavly inspired by Paris ? Like the clockgear ?
Plus the ballgown, and the signature move being french "Fluer Canon"

>nowaday still having hope into games with lot of content is kinda hard for me
True, but if I could play devils advocate, S/M are the first Pokémon games with an extra year of development, since Platinum. It broke the annual release pattern, which means they had more time to develop content.

On top of that;

>No new engine
>All the old models are unchanged
>OR/AS had fuck-all new content, despite just being remakes

So you have to answer WHAT THE HELL have they been doing with their time? The only answer is that we're finally going to get a game with a lot of content again. I am expecting HG/SS or B2/W2 levels of content.
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>>26824011
It's boring
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>>26824011
Not much aside from it being too cramped, it's just way too soon for us to be going back.
BW however needed a BW2 as soon as possible because vanilla Unova was quite possibly the worst region of them all in my opinion.
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>>26822999

It's cancer in its final form.
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>>26823963

My thoughts exactly.

And then I ended up watching it. Pro-tip: just fucking don't. You'll save yourself so much trouble.
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>>26822849
It'd be nice, but until we actually have REAL evidence, I don't believe it's happening.
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>>26841913
B2/W2 saved it so hard

>no longer travel in a circle, but rather zig-zag across the region like other games
>Added more Pokémon, giving us the best Regional Dex to date, probably making it the game with the most replay value
>Can replay the game on a Hard difficulty, also adding to the replay value
>Added much needed environments to explore, like a Volcano, and the comfy as fuck Virbank City
>While also adding memorable landmarks like the Marine Tube

And that's just the general Region playthrough, doesn't even begin to scratch all the extra content and shit. B2/W2 were fucking great. I cant decide whether it's better than HG/SS or not, but they're definitely up there as the pinnacles of the franchise.
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>>26842011
I completely agree. HGSS and BW2 are among my most replayed games.
Call me a casual but BW2 was the first time that I got my entire ingame team to lv 100 without serious amounts of E4 grinding. So much fucking content with hard difficulty as the icing on the cake.
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>>26841853
Oh I see ! Thanks :).

That extra year of development was on my mind too. The reasons are valuables.

Well, I still can't believe it (too much disappointment in the past), but if that happens, I would be sooooo so sososo happy *-*
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>>26823455
victini was level 15
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bemp
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>>26836525
Because Sinnoh isn't a bad region, anon
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Are there any actually good hints to Kalos being revisited, or is it all just wishful thinking?
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>>26825981
Where is this FROM?
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>>26848347
They're clips from different trailers, and anime episodes. One is from Pokémon Origins.
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I'm not sure how, but there's a lot of hints on the map that could connect Alola to other regions. For example, the large Pagoda/shrine on the Eastmost island could connect it to Johto. Can anyone find anything else?
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>>26822849
gen 2 will never have the same following as gen1 so I disagree...
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>>26825981
Bianca is so fucking cute!
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>>26848887
Battle front in the middle?
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If we really go back to Kalos and its in the same 3D format as Alola there will be literally no reason to ever. Ever. Play XY.

I'm okay with this
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>>26822849
Skyla is flying us from Alola to Unova though
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>>26849348
Unlikely, but fuck that would be amazing if it happened.
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>>26849259
Me too
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>>26827203
because gen4 sucks ? as do gen2 quite frankly but gen4 is the worst.
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>>26846214
it's not "a bad region", it's the definite worst region in the franchise.
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