Marine Resort edition. Old thread >>26696156
PSMD download: http://pastebin.com/uR5bKJkw (NOTE: The English upload is down for the time being, and I don't have a spare on hand since I didn't upload that.)
Check the guides at >>>/vg/hbg if you don't know how to install the game. You won't lose any online feature or anything doing so, don't worry. You will be able to do everything that you'd normally be able to and much more.
Blue, Sky, and an emulator (now comes with rom editor so you can have custom starters): https://mega.nz/#!TUEBhRQY!mfpcugVQp_aVbNVNDoJjElo3c__57V0s6O45ftnMSHQ
/vp/'s Mystery Dungeon guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
REMINDER: If you need a rescue, post your region. Due to a few things that make no sense, rescues are region locked. It's shitty, but be sure to mention if you're European or American. If you use the .cia in this post, your region should be listed as American.
first for gummi bulking
second for skitty a bestbut cyndaquil a bit better
>>26781644
the whole cyndaquil line a shit, especially yellow flightless charizard
>>26781693
Back off?????
>>26781693
Cyndaquil > your fav mon
>>26781890
Cyndaquil isn't even better than Chikorita in its same trio, how could it be better thanPiplup?
>>26781988
The only thing worse than Chikorita is probably HA-less Snivy, and that's debatable. That's in ordinary games though.
Anyway, I just got Super. What am I in for? Is it as good as Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky? Are there any blatantly overpowered combinations, or can I pick whatever and beat the game without tearing my hair outfuck Machop and Cubone
>>26782328
>What am I in for?
Pokemon Persona Mystery Dungeon: Tree of Xenogear X
>Is it as good as Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky?
You'll get varying opinions
>Are there any blatantly overpowered combinations
Yes
>>26782328
>is it as good as Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky?
The general quality is definitely there, but you won't find a definitive ranking in terms of where it places among the other games.
>blatantly overpowered combinations
Chespin/Fennekin in general. Charizard/Torterra specifically for post-game. You can pick whatever honestly. Not to brag on an anonymous image board, but Super's difficulty is far overstated.
>Cubone
But it's amazing.
>>26782328
Chespin is broken as fuck in Super and Totodile and Fennekin are honorable mentions
>>26782390
>>26782415
Did they fix the awkward experience curves and stat distribution from the previous games?
I just chose Totodile and Treecko. The movesets are pretty neat, I wasn't expecting that.
>Cubone
>But it's amazing.
I could never get past the two non-damaging moves at the beginning.
>>26782415
>picking charizard
>ever
>>26782328
Super has some neat gameplay improvements, but the plot isn't as good as sky in my opinion, and there were some questionable design decisions, but it's a fun game while it lasts.
I've heard a Chespin and Fennekin combo can make the game really easy, and I used Riolu and Fennekin and had no trouble, beyond that I don't know.
Some people have said the game is harder than the previous ones, but I thought it was actually easier. I don't know if that's just because of the team I picked or everyone who says that the game is hard is just retarded and doesn't know how to use items.
>>26782440
They "fixed" the level curve by making leveling super slow and stat gains minimal (or at least feel that way). Super was designed around the idea that items are more important than raw power, so levels were sort of devalued.
>I could never get past the two non-damaging moves at the beginning.
I just had my partner attack for me until I got a move.
>>26782453
I think it's because Charizard, while getting access to Heat Wave, also doesn't get hit by Earthquake so your partner can use it freely.
>>26782440
probably not. When you level up, your stats only go up by one most of the time, and it feels like most enemies are a higher level than you and take forever to beat when going through the main story. You'll probably have to rely on items a lot.
They also nerfed the fuck out of the basic attack. It only does five damage now. All the time. It's completely useless.
>>26782570
Yeah, I noticed that. But I never really relied on that anyway. It seems like I'm being thrown a lot of elixirs and tiny reviver seeds anyway. Orbs and those wands are pretty damn useful though now and they come up fairly often. I've been abusing them.
It does feel like my moves are a lot weaker in general though.
>>26782597
The wands are really useful bordering on overpowered since they're stackable, especially pounce wands and stayaway wands.
If you find blasts seeds you should hoard those too. They do a shiton of damage so they can be really useful for bosses and shit when your moves don't have as much effect.
>>26782570
>They also nerfed the fuck out of the basic attack.
I wonder why they did that instead of taking it out altogether. If its gonna be so weak throughout, what's the point of having it in?
>>26783313
For when you go SSJ (Awakened)
It sucks that it's locked to 5HP but when you're SSJ it does a shit-ton of damage and splash damage so you can save PP on your moves by spamming that
>>26783313
Passing a turn, basically.
>>26783330
There's already a button combo for doing nothing though.
>>26783313
You can still use it to finish off an enemy that withstood a hit with Endure or Sturdy.
>Get to 12/13 floors for a locked door mission
>Used up all my Reviver Seeds
>Teammate gets confused and kills the escort
just kill me now
>>26783833
What's your address?
>>26785206
What's this meme
Is it possible to recruit pokemon that you defeat on diagonal tiles?
I'm playing blue.
Are gummis still in Super? I've just saved Ampharos and still haven't seen any gummis at all.
>>26785518
>Are gummis still in Super?
Nope.
>>26785534
Oh shit, does that mean you have all of the IQ tactics and shit right from the start?
>>26785539
Nope, most of them have become Emeras
>>26785551
Fuck. I'd like that system a lot more if the emeras didn't vanish after you left the dungeon, but I suppose that'd be ridiculously broken. At least the looplets or whatever they're called give some boosts.
>>26785210
it's a reddit meme
Been Mystery Dungeon 2 recently again. I remember when I bought it years ago that my starter was around Level 98 when I finished the game (not post-game, or maybe with? When I evolved them, they were this high at least, so yeah), just like my other guy. Is that normal? I know I haven't really done any or many sidequests. It was a pretty casual playthrough, so I don't know. Maybe it's normal, but struck me as weird that the level would get this high.
>mfw you're finally done with the Sky Tower and main story
holy shit.
the last parts of main story are hard even with Skitty abuse.
you get to the point where regular mons can take three quartes of your health if they don't give you mercy by using a regular attack.
also, fuck sky tower summit.
it has no food and worst floor layout ever.
>>26785518
The last game that had Gummis and IQ were the WiiWare games.
WiiWare games seem to run on Sky engine, as I remember running up into a lookalike item.
>>26785515
Yes, any adjacent tiles
>>26786472
Most finish the post-game story in their 50's. What's your play time like?
>>26786587
... if there is some sort of trophy hall, I could look it up. I wouldn't know otherwise. But I would say ~40-50 hours.
>>26787524
Shouldn't you like have play time in the Adventure Log or somewhere on the main screen?
>>26787600
yeah, but the savestat is 6 years or so old. I never deleted it. I played here and there afterwards as well, so it's ~88 hours now. Before that, it was around 60. But who knows when I played it last time and when I finished the post-game story.
I find it kinda ironical the highest leveled Pokémon in Rescue Team is the same species as the first boss. L55 Skarmory, really?
The next is one rematch Articuno (L53). Then rematch Moltres (L52). Then we have some random mons that spawn at L50, and after that, some other mons that spawn at L45.
>>26786488
>WiiWare games seem to run on Sky engine, as I remember running up into a lookalike item.
They definitely did reuse some stuff as items are like the same as Sky, but I doubt the engine itself is
>>26788302
Bring back lookalike items
>>26788457
this I want them back too
>>26788302
Welp, I meant THAT.
Someone needs to translate these games for fuck's sake.
>>26788580
"Translating" menus and stuff wouldn't be too hard if you figure out the text format. Maybe I'll read about extracting and repacking .wads and hope that text editing is as easy as it is in the 3DS games.
>>26788680
It's a WiiWare games.
Let's hope it is possible.There's some stuff exclusive to WiiWare, though.
Alright let's try and get some discussion going in this ded general.
How often and where do you bring Hoopa along with you in Super? Do you bring it to tougher dungeons and risk stuff killing it and evolving or do you bring it to easier dungeons to help you breeze through and save PP/Elixirs? Or do you even use it at all?
>>26791773
I've never used Hoopa and probably never will. I do just fine on my own.
>>26791773
The only legendary i have ever used in PMD is Sky's Jirachi.
>>26791892
Really? Why didn't you use legendaries? A philosophical reason or did you just like other teammates better?
>>26791916
There's only a couple of them i like. In PMD they are on the same level as everything else. In Super, there's only enough room for my 3 favorites on my team and nothing else.
>>26791940
Fair enough, but didn't you ever get absolute mover in Sky? That's pretty godlike and it only shows up on Palkia.
>>26791991
I got it on Palkia just to say i got it on Palkia. I'd much rather use my favorites instead, at least they got stuff like Trap Seer and don't take up half the screen
>>26791773
I brought him with me if I was on the sand continent and remembered he exists.
Most of the times I brought him with me I forgot I had him and never actually used him though. I never really needed him.
>>26791773
Hoopa's gimmick is pretty useless imo. I'd use him if he was an actual recruit and not an item.
Do mons in upper level areas like Far Amp Plains and stuff show up as clients in rescue missions? Having trouble recruiting some of them and I thought it'd be easier to get them by accepting ??? reward missions from them.
>>26795199
Don't see why they wouldn't.
>one Vullaby takes 35 points of damage to kill
>another can take over 100
What the fuck is up with enemy health in Gates? What causes such a wild difference? I lost a Reviver Seed and two Oran Berries because of the latter situation. Fuck Pluck.
Does gender actually change anything significant besides textbox color for the player's gender?
>>26795878
In Explorers, males get a slight boost to crit rate and females get a slight boost to evasion. In Rescue Team, I don't think it does anything.
>>26795896
Gender isn't really apart of RT and is just a minor thing of the MC (Pokemon News mentions your gender and that's the only time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XTnrWvDa7A
>>26798246
i cant believe im getting feels from giivasunner
of course it's the beach boys' fault and indirectly giiva, but still
>>26798246
>mfw you're currently feeding your main gummis so it becomes a monsterit's an azurill and it's one of my fav mons. one with the bst ability
Beatrix, the Destroyer of Worlds.Might or might not be named after FF character.
>venonat threw an oran berry
>venonat was fully healed
This is Rescue Team in Uproar Forest.
They're not supposed to be this smart.
THEY'RE FUCKING LEARNING.
>>26798698
Wait until you hit that milestone in SMD where the AI are exactly like the player
>>26799056
>SMD
i am a poorfag
i don't have a nintendo 3ds
>>26799266
I'm sorry. I didn't know
>>26799266
>no 3ds
Start saving up for at least a 2ds man
>>26799266
>>26800758
This, get a 3DS for cheap, under 11.0, then mod it.
If I evolve members of the guild at the Tree of Life, do they appear evolved during the guild meetings every morning, or are they not allowed to evolve?
>>26803656
I meant the Expedition society in super, fug.
>>26803656
>>26803667
they don't evolve, not like they get any benefit from it
>>26803088
IS there more pics like this with all the characters from Explorers, Gates,Adventure Squad, and Super?
>>26804143
>>26804265
>drifblim
You are allowed to give ONE pokemon a main spot in the next PMD game. The only catch is it can't be part of the main story of another pmd game. Who do you pick?
>>26806888
eevee :^)
>>26806888
Slowking.
>>26806978
It's already used in Adventure Squad
>>26806888
Azumarill
>>26807007
fug
Mandibuzz
>>26807023
>pic
>>26806888
Aipom
>>26806888
Masquerain.
>>26806888
Porygon-Z
>>26806888
>tfw most of the mons i like have been in pmd's story
Answering my own question though, Drifblim having more of a role than "gondola runner by day run ender by night" would be cool
>>26806888
Bisharp.
I want to play as Larvitar in SMD.
>>26806888
Sandslash
>mfw that random weather in uproar forest
sandstorm. in a forest.
that's just beyond stupid.
Anyone feel like doing a rescue? I have a mission on 55 ;_;
>>26809508
>not saying if it's TD or Sky or what dungeon it is
well
>>26809530
It's probably sky.
Shinx and vulpix weren't starters in TD, right?
>>26809584
It is Sky, then.i am too busy with other mystery dungeon game, though.
>>26809530
>not saying if it's TD or Sky or what dungeon it is
It doesn't matter as long as he says what dungeon it is, it's only a problem when it's a dungeon added in sky. if you can even have rescues in those dungeons
>>26809508
Shit sorry anons, it's sky and zero isle south b51
Anyone else has storage problems in EoS? I always have to toss/ recycle a few items before attempting Zero Isle.
>>26812677>go to the future
>didn't recycle the day before
>game throws items at me like they're nothing
>no room to store them
>dozens of items get thrown in the trash
>>26812677
Yes, i've stored too many items and hoard swap items i'll never use
>>26806888
Whimsicott because it is the best.
>>26812677
Yeah, it's a little annoying that you can't just endlessly shove your shit in there.
Just make sure to clear out things you wouldn't ever need. That page of Fill-in Orbs isn't going to see any use. When's the last time you took out a Chesto Berry? Swap several exclusive items for better ones with Croagunk.
>>26813181
But if i save the Chesto Berries i can swap them for a Link Box to make the next good item appear faster!
>>26813218
no anon
you need to stop
>>26813279
But every item has some extremely obscure and situational use!
>>26806888
Reuniclus
>>26780804
Entei is fucking decimating me and I hate fighting 3 boss battles in a row, how the hell do I beat him?
Explorers of Sky is coming to the VC
>>26814247
You're losing the third fight? What level are you?
Use wands and alliances all the time.
>>26814262
>cant modify starters
>already 100% the normal game
>>26814391
level 18, im using pikachu and fennekin, wands don't work very well on boss pokemon though?
>>26814247
Nothing much you can do besides hoard items. More Oran Berries and Tiny Reviver Seeds never hurt nobody.
>>26814415
Some wands are still very useful in boss fights. You can either use Truant Wands to neutralize Entei's Pressure, or use Slumber Wands and hope to buy a few easy turns. Don't combine both though unless you want a disaster.
>>26814398
But you can
You might as well not buy it if you do though
>tfw got massively sidetracked by shinies so i havent been able to do pmd
>tfw nothing to do in pmd anyways
>>26818691
if you like shinies that much you could try to recruit all of the shinies from as, have fun :^)
>Finally get a chance to use the Water Looplet
>Use all of the vitamins I've been saving in my bank
>buy 150 golds worth of mega donuts
i have become death. did I fuck up buying donuts though?
>>26819534yes
Finally decided to get Gates when I saw a copy going for £20
Gameplay feels thin, but the story feels much better in the first half compared to Explorers's first half and Super's fist half.
I can see why the game's not very well liked so far, but it's not because of the story, that's for sure. How does the rest of the story compare to Explorers and Super?
>>26819534
>did I fuck up buying donuts though?
>>26820878
There are some people that like Gates' story more than any other game
>>26820878
Iffy. A lot of people feel like it tells more than shows. Other people get annoyed by the text speed, plus the fact that the writing is often roundabout and over-explain-y (there's a lot of "oh, look, X! It's X! I'd really like to go to X someday" or that sort of thing, where X is often repeated when it'd be easier to just say "there" or "that" or whatever).
Personally I just couldn't get invested in the characters. The partner's bland and the scene with Scraggy after the cave is phenomenally stupid, and none of the other characters were really likeable or interesting enough for me to care.
>>26823164
>none of the other characters were really likeable or interesting enough for me to care.
Oddly enough, I had this problem with the other games. The only characters I really care about outside of Gates are the school kids in Super and the special episodes characters in Sky.
As for the partner, he's a bit vanilla compared to the super one, but much more likeable. I'd also say he's less bland than the Explorers partner and especially the Rescue Team one by having his goal to build paradise instead of being some kind of Explorer variant like every other one.
>>26819534
>did I fuck up buying donuts though?
I don't like that there's no room or reason to grind in SMD, I feel like I'm being rushed and I don't like feeling so underlevelled in story missions even though I have type advantages.
>>26826846
I think it's a step in the right direction. I want the difficult of Super but dialed back just a little bit and item power severely reduced. I like not being bored to death in most dungeons.
>>26819534
You actually didn't fuck up too hard with the donuts. They boost HP sometimes, unlike the other boosting items. In the long run, you'll have more HP than you would otherwise(although it'll take longer to get all your stats to 255).
That being said, it's around 2x more efficient(based on donut luck) to use vitamins, and it's also better because you can target specific stats.
The best way is to boost your relevant attack stat first, then speed, then defenses. This lets you OHKO everything and almost never miss.
>>26827046
Alternatively, keep the item power but severely reduce the amount the player gets.
>>26826846
>no room to grind, feel like I'm being rushed
This is a bit of an issue, but I understand why they did this.
>no reason to grind
I can't help but laugh at this. Picture this: Billy grinds up to the next team rank(which takes maybe an hour) and gets 30 gold bars. He spends them all on Calcium. Now he has 60 more special attack than everyone else. Do you see why this is a problem?
>underleveled
This is a huge issue in Super. Past the beginning part, it's very difficult to fight enemies on your own. You need to use items or your overpowered guest members to fight most of the enemies. I understand that there would be no strategy if you could just beat everyone through sheer force(like Skitty in Rescue Team), but I really don't like how I feel so insignificantly weak in Super. There needs to be a balance between moves and items.
>Everyone talking about the rampant use of item use in Super
>Tfw in both playthroughs the only time I had to use items that aren't Revival Seeds was post-game
>>26827266
It's probably the "play to win" mindset. Like using Drifblim in Explorers.
>>26827320
>tfw your favorite will never be as broken as drifblim
>>26827266
Well, uh, did you use a lot of reviver seeds?
>>26828824
Well yeah. I mean, kind of hard to avoid
Mainly against bosses. off of memory theYveltalfight I think I used 5?
Then again, this was my second playthrough. My first playthrough I do remember using a lot doe to having a bad PC/Partner combo
Let's fix PMD.
The main story normally plays like RT/Explorers. It's not hard. If you avoid grinding, it becomes more like Super, that you need to avoid enemies and use more items.
Both randomly generated missions and Connection Orb-like missions are kept, though the latter become more complex and aren't forced in a menu. They're kind of side quests. These are accessible during the main story, but they're optional. Some of them will be harder, having more restrictions, such as starting from level 1/5 and sometimes maybe more, like 30 for example (so that you get more interesting moves from the start and maybe get stronger enemies from the start). There may also be restrictions such as that you can only play that specific mission with a certain Pokémon, so that it gets build around it. They may also make you start with some specific items instead of none or what you already have..
Postgame story is structured like the main story at first. This part is not as short as GtI/Super, but not as long as Explorers either.
After this it becomes more like RT: main postagame story stuff happens after you do certain things and can happen whenever
Also taken from RT is that some dungeons will have something that makes them feel special. Think of Wish Cave. Multiple dungeons like that. most (if not all of them) having restrictions such as the side quest ones above, except the forced Pokémon species of course. These dungeons would also have some plot to them, be it related to the main plot or not. They would also feature a lot of exclusive and useful items that you'll find yourself using, which is what is going to make a specific dungeon feel special and different from one another. The only way to use an exclusive dungeon item in another dungeon is to complete the dungeon you can find it in (or using an Escape Orb I guess, but that would probably be harder to find there)
what do you think???
>>26827232
I feel like I beat a dead horse when I say this (even though I haven't posted in these threads in a while), but I really do feel like Explorers got that down pat. It was still relatively easy, don't get me wrong, but I was actively using rocks and sticks to soften enemies up before going in for the KO, and that was during the early parts of my replay. Even in later dungeons in my main file I'm still regularly using silver spikes and petrify and spurn orbs, and the occasional seed. Plus oran berries if I run into an explosive trap. And apples, always apples.
>>26829024
I don't know about the difficulty thing, I like this new difficulty even if it's just enemy health/damage being changed from the previous games.
Dungeons with gimmicks other than level reset would be very welcome. Same goes for those sidequest missions you mentioned in the paragraph before. More interesting twists, as long as they're not Aegis Cave, would definitely make the game feel less repetitive.
>>26829234
>new restrictions
>Inverse Dungeons where type matchups are reversed
>dungeons where you can't land a hit with NVE moves at all
>dungeons where every pokemon on the floor has a random stat lowered
>>26829416
Nice ideas. I liked inverse battles from XY, but I don't understand why they refused to use them properly.
>>26829416
It'd be great to see stuff like this implemented like the V-Wave instead of locking it to certain dungeons.
Also more terrain types, like water
>>26829464
I was thinking about that as well, though GtI also had the "mysteriousity level" thing. It could work as either of them.
>>26829446
>cant do them in the maison
>cant do them in link battles
>only in one house in the game
Anyone happen to have that picture of questionable decisions of RT?
>>26829491
>with only one trainer
>only once a day
>>26829510
here you go
>>26830241
Thanks anon
Super Mystery Dungeon any good?
I enjoyed the earlier PMD games, but was heavily disappointed by the Etrian Mystery Dungeon game, which makes me a little hesitant.I really don't care about the story, I just want the endgame to be great
>>26830241>tfw someone saved your thing.There are few derps there and here, though. For one, you can't use Gummis on you or your partner outside of dungeons until post-game, which means no super stats for them before Rayquaza. Also, I forgot to insert the amount of Pokemon exclusive to Lv. 1 dungeons.
>>26829024
I really would like random missions to still be there, and Connection Orb for plot sidequests.If Explorers is really set after Rescue Team, then why not have postgame on the other land? Who wouldn't want to meet YOOMTAH! Jigglypuff? Or maybe even Mom!Azumarill.
>>26831538
Yes, it's good. Have you played the other MD games?
>>26831678
I played the very first game as a child, enjoyed it immensely.
Currently playing through explorers, although I'm only 2 hours in so far.
>>26831694
I was actually talking about the non-pokemon ones since I assumed you had already played Explorers from the plural in your first post, but it's okay
You're playing Sky, right?
>>26780804
>mfw my Lv. 21 Azurill recruited Articuno
how.
i know this bunny thing is buff as fuck, but ice birb joins at Lv. 53.
there's no way I fought a Lv. 53 Articuno and had STAB Huge Power boosted Facade +1 deal ~110 damage.
i do like 4 points of damage to hydro's blastoise. how buff is that fucking tortoise?
>>26831837
No, explorers of darkness
>>26831860
Might be better if I actually posted an image.
Replace Azumarill with Azurill.
>>26831882
Is it because you want to play it on a console? If you have a way to run Sky you should play that instead
>>26831882
the >>26831895 anon is right.
Sky is Time and Darkness, but better. It's like a director's cut. There's no exclusive items or Pokemon, they actually added more of these (plus some more extra dungeons; on top of making the Seven Treasures unlockable without codes).
Even Special Episodes to expand on some NPCs.
Literally the only reason to play TD is for the starters that got removed in Sky.
>>26831860
Blastoise is level 38.
Stats are kind of all over the place in RT.
>>26831906
>Literally the only reason to play TD is for the starters that got removed in Sky.
Nah, just mod the game or the save
Here's an actual reason: You don't have flashcards but you can run DS homebrew. Right now you can't backup an EoS save, but EoT/D is ok.
>>26831912
The more I look at it, the more I feel like we need remade Rescue Team. It's not a bad game, but it definitely feels like it was their first time adapting Pokemon to these mechanics. They made some risky moves, and not all of them paid off. I mean, look at Dialga. It has IQ Skills, unlike the joke that is Mewtwo.Imagine Mewtwo with 999 IQ, though. Intimidator, Extra Striker, Clutch Performer, Erratic Player, Nonsleeper, Brick-tough, Type-Advantage Master...
>>26831894
>go hunting in frosty forest and mt. blaze second halves for items
>"something is stirring"
>mfw in frosty grotto it looks like icy wind/snow but in mt. blaze peak it looks like flame
HOLY SHIT
THE DETAIL
>>26832031
...Hold on, really? I wouldn't have expected that
>>26831931
>3D grafix but with the original sprites' animations, also portraits for everyone
>only the first 3 gens like the original, but with additional 4th gen evolutions + Primals + Lucario
>no megas or emeras, only Explorers' IQ skills with RT's pseudo-skill-tree
>quality of life fixes and move effects from SMD
>extra dialogue to make postgame Pokemon Square feel less dead
>a real fight with Team ACT
I can only dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_bH4cmf0H8&t=6m55s
I-is this for real?!
>>26832255
>only first 3 gens + primals + lucario
>lucario
>primals but not mega (fug)
implying no postgame with remaining mons.mesprit, stop fucking hiding in murky cave.
I've also been doing this.
FYI, this is all games. Rescue, Explorers including Sky's starters, Gates, Super, fuck, even WiiWare*
*I've removed Pichu since it's basically an inferior Pikachu, Wynaut as it would be unplayable, and I upgraded Azurill to Marill, as it'd be about as good as Pichu. 25*4 equals to 100 slots. With 40 starters, half of them got 2 spots, the other half got 3.
You can yell at me for doing an awful job.
>>26832931
>tfw Mareep and Pikachu break the ordering
fuck
>people in an Uproar about SM telling move effectiveness
This didn't happen when it was added in Super, right? Does anyone here think it's a bad thing that needs to go?
>>26833373
Chances are you already know the type matchups anyways, so having them wouldn't make stuff easier anyways.
>>26832931
>Riolu not in Sassy anywhere
>>26833373
It didn't happen and it's not a bad thing.
>>26832931
>keeping megas when emeras and IQ are completely at odds with each other
>recruiting seven gens of Pokemon with Rescue Team's recruitment system
pls nounless they're fixed
Retcons likeMesprit being the judge of darknesswould be cool though. Finding out in SMD thatXerneas (AKA Pokemon Martel) was the voice behind Luminous Springwas one of the best parts of the story.
And about that chart, Ihave literally no idea how that works
>>26806888
I think I'd have to pick Starmie it's always been my fav mon. I just hope you could drop or get rid of >illuminate
>>26834809
They did away with the whole 2 abilities at once thing since Gates, maybe it'd be better now?
>>26834165
>keeping mechanics that are obviously shit and beat
>not using Explorers' updated mechanics
Who the fuck wants bag that stays at 20 items instead of expanding? Ranks that give nothing (other than changing what Jirachi can do)? Who the fuck wants "your party can contain only up to 3 members upon entering a dungeon, but you can neverthless recruit a fourth one". Remade version should use Explorers.
>not keeping Wands, Emeras, Megas as post-game stuff
Mega Fug could be the first to utilize Mega Evolution (because everyone wants him to destroy the meteor), and then maybe Mewtwo because he's basically "the strongest". Beating Mewtwo could initiate a sidequest chain that leads you to discovering how Mega Evolution works.Plain Ribbon could be used with Emeras to do something.
The chart would be related to quiz, but you would have a choice of four, instead of being like "here, have this Pokemon."You probably could also choose Pokemon yourself if you want, ala Super.
>>26834009
>riolu
...I'll be honest. I had no idea where the fuck to put Riolu.
>>26834876
Riolu is sassy in Explorers of Sky.
>>26834975
Then use Paint and apply edits. It shouldn't be hard, right?i can also share the link to google docs i've been using
Say i keep seeing people talk about donuts in super, is it an acronym for something or is it really an item?
>>26835676
It's a literal donut. There are a couple "sweets" items like chocolate, cookies, and donuts that up stats. Problem is they're less effective than vitamins on average, and cost more
>>26835734
That said, they can up multiple stats.
I use mostly vitamins, but also add a few donuts because why not
>>26837072
The sweets really should be buffed, as they are now it's a pitiful +1
>tfw nobody's doing a playthrough for the thread anymore
It might be time to start up ZIS runs again
Just finished Rescue Team's main story.I was blown away by the first half. I didn't expect anything too serious given the target demographic, so I was shocked when it came to the point where the friendly town turned turned on you. They avoided using the word 'kill' but they weren't even subtle about the fact that that's what would happen once they hunted you down. The whole situation felt so much more tense and serious than I was expecting, and I really felt for the protagonists when the partner had a small breakdown over what would become of two of you as you ran out of places to run.Then the writers shat out the back half of the plot with some nonsense about a meteor causing natural disasters and having your character disappear for 10 seconds. And how about when all the rescue teams banded together to take on Magma Cavern, but then rushed off ahead of you only to no-show and leave you to take on Groudon yourselves.
>tfw super partner won't stop being a shit
why do they always attack the wrong things
>>26841332
Have you messed with the tactics at all? I always kept it on the default and never had problems.
>>26841332
Try to subtle mentally condition them towards being a better battler. Like when they are about to hit a pokemon that's asleep across the room, blow a mouthful of Flamethrower into their eyes. Or if you notice they've been going after an item at the other end of the room, blow a mouthful of Flamethrower into their eyes. If they do something good like 1shot an enemy, reward them by refraining from blowing Flamethrower into their face for a whole floor. Protip: You are going to want to fill your inventory with Max Elixers every morning so you don't have to keep running to the Deposit Box to grab bagfulls.
>find vitamin in walls
>Calcium
At least it will power up Azurill's Bubble.
>>26843345
>another run because moltres is bitch
>find 2 sitrus berries on 1F and 2F in the walls, as well as randomly find Zinc in a wall near corridor because i can't move around at all
I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING
>>26839386
How would you change the last part of the story?
What could they possible be taught anyways?
>>26844562
History, Pokemon biology: evolution, typing, etc., basic math (they use currency at least), or fighting strategy. Maybe some home--ec type stuff as well.
>>26844945
>the postgame is "summer vacation"
Would they even have to go back? I mean they're capable of 1shotting huge legendaries and making tons of money
>>26844945
>Maybe some home--ec type stuff as well.>Sex Ed
>>26844973
>it's summer vacation
>deerling doesn't change color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aggjIMqaRn4
>>26844973
More importantly,your partner regained their memories, so they would have no reason to go at all.
>>26844973
And somewhere it was mentioned that they resumed studies at the guild
>get killed by Confuse Ray + Psywave Grumpig
>second run to get remaining HMs; ends at Waterfall because fucking Psywave Chimecho
>psywave chimecho is a threat
>chimecho
>that one elusive shitmon
>third run is succesful
PMD knows how make core series' players have their jimmies be rustled.
>when the stairs are in a monster house
>>26847086
>when you enter a new floor in the corner of a monster house
>>26847194
>Super
>Go up the stairs
>Room is full of items
>Mfw this was supposed to be a MH but if you spawn in it it doesn't go off so instead you spawn into a room of items
>>26849826
>tfw walking pineapple fucks your cafe's walls up every other day
>>26851437
>every other day
If only I were so lucky. 140 hours and I've only won big like seven times.
I've reset the game several times trying to recruit a fucking Pidgey in RT and I've only ever seen 1 and failed to get it.
This spawn rate is pissing me off, I don't even know how the hell I got one in the GBA version a few years back.
>>26851885wish
Are generic units completely gone in Super? Wanted to make a team with two Zigzagoons, but if there aren't any, I guess I have to wait until a starter mod eventually comes out.
>>26854116
Zigzagoon is in the game (though you can only recruit one), what lead you to believe otherwise?
>>26806888
czech'd
>>26854116
Yeah, every recruit is this attempted half-character. It's the reason you can't nickname anyone or any of that business.
Stupid move, but then again, SMD has a lot of those.
>>26854130
He wanted to recruit multiples.
>>26854330
Does not naming bother people? Not naming everyone seems like an easy way to drop hundreds of dialogue boxes from the game. Not to mention, how uncool would it be for someone to swoop in and rename literally everyone in a continental region?
>"Hey, how's it going."
>"That guy that helped save the world let me on his team after he helped me out, so I'm pretty excited but..."
>"New name then?"
>"Yeah...I guess you can call me AssClown from now on."
>"That's rough, sorry to hear that."
>"Well, what am I gonna do, say no to the guy? He helped save the world!"
>>26854985
Oh, I see what he meant now.
Not naming doesn't bother me personally, but it could have easily been worked around by simply changing name to codename so it implies the new name is only used on missions.
I'm really salty about the A button only doing 5 damage.
>>26855620
same, it's too weak to finish anything off that doesn't have Sturdy, and kills any method to conserve PP at all in level 5 dungeons
>>26854114
Not at that point yet, trying to do it during the story.
>NEVER
>EVER
>>26857065
Why do the good anons die young?
>>26859077
>those scenes in Gates where it focuses on the partner's face
>partner is Snivy
>all I see is a green arrow
Is this was Totodile fans in Super feel like?
I've been thinking about the wholeBittercold/Dark Matter and the concept's repeated usething and I think they could use this to create a series antagonist. I gaveDarkraishit for doing the "Ha ha! It was me all along!" thing, but I feel like it would be a waste if those two don't get brought up again.
>>26859725
>remember that time you thought you got a Big Win only it was an Oran Berry?
>IT WAS ME TURTWIG! I WAS WOBBUFFET
>>26859725
If the writers actually care about creating a consistent universe, then we can see from Gates and SMD that Pokemon's emotions and feelings manifest in reality in extreme ways. We seeBittercold and Dark Matter as physically realized masses of negative emotion that evidently build up over time. Likewise, we see the Voice of Life as some sort of manifestation of Pokemon will to live (?) or at least something that seems to be at the opposite end of the spectrum of Bittercold/Dark Matter. If this is the case, then we could expect to see a Dark Souls-esque cycle of negative feelings congregating into a threat to existence before being dealt with repeating through the series.Of course, nobody actually wants that because it would be boring and even more repetitive in an already formulaic series.
>>26859939
Oh I didn't mean anything like that, I just meant that their existence would be acknowledged and we'd learn that it's something that's always been there and will continue to exist until a permanent solution is found. I was thinking more like a Kingdom Hearts-esque revelation where it turns out all the bad things came from one source (like something is allowing/forcing the feelings to manifest, it's not natural) so now the heroes have to beat the big BIG bad so nothing like it happens again. We'd have like a mini trilogy within the series.
So what's the word on that one guy who was doing stuff to make his own PMD game? Did he disappear off the face of the earth?
>>26859725
>the meteor, Primal Dialga, and Darkrai are retconned to be the work of an enemy DARKNESS
>every duo is retconned to be reincarnations of SMD's Mew/MC duo
>>26860305
That would be the worst. I was really only thinking within the scope of those two games and connecting them, not rewriting all of PMD history.
>>26858076
>you will never bring the anon who drew these back from Purifying Cave so that they can finish themthe more I look at that first image, the weirder the shading around funneldoggo's mouth looks
>>26859939
I feel really bad for the Gates partnerHe successfully kick started a town to help make sure the Bittercold never comes back, only to later find that another negativity entity comes along that doesn't even need everyone to be miserable assholes to exist.
>>26862012
Well they didn't know aboutthe Bittercoldat first though, they would have done it regardless
So what was up with Hydreigonlying about the memories associated with the main character disappearing, and that a human remaining in the Pokémon world would throw the universe out of balance? The former was never a thing before Gates (even in the game where the main character is actually erased from the timeline), and the latter was deconfirmed by Cresselia while also just sort of being allowed to happen in Rescue Team. Really the only thing that doesn't sit right with me about Gates' story.
>>26862432
>a human remaining in the Pokémon world would throw the universe out of balance
Maybe it was just another case of correlation, not causation
>>26862432Maybe Hydreigon does it in a particular way that does make memories disappear
>>26862432
Either the different nature of the transformation played a role:being changed by the powers that be or a messed up time portal could be different than being summoned by the Voice of Life, or the way the characters returned got them excepted from the rule somehow.But more realistically, the writers probably just couldn't be consistent to save their lives and do their very best to ass-pull a sad ending every time.
>>26862900
I don't think they even expected a consistent, all settings at the same time world.
But that's the fun of myths and legends. I wonder if they will go with an all continents world next time. Or maybe somewhere else entirely.
>>26860248
Who? I think I remember some folks discussing making a fangame like a month or two ago, but I don't remember anyone saying they were actually doing anything.
This shit still gets me to this day.
Does sky just have the same story as time/duckness?
>>26863501
Yeah. It's like other Pokemon 3rd versions.
>>26863501
Yeah, but there's some more bits here and there and 5 special episodes that expands side characters plots.
where's the archive for /vp/? I need to find the last few threads
>>26864305
http://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/
>>26864320
thanks
Is it worth it to buy the move shock wave
>>26806888
Cacturne
And if I can't have that I want a Cacnea Spheal Duo
>>26864046
>side characters plots
Dude, episode 5 alone is worth it for it fills the hole in your heart.
The other side fluff is nice aswell
>>26864723
But Igglybuff's episode was the best.
>>26864728
What, sorry? I could not hear you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BneRjd_c1-A
>"everyone in the future will cease to exist if we change it"
>"but don't worry everything's okay nobody died"
>everything bad that ever happened was caused by Darkrai and nothing else, and he just came out of nowhere near the end of the whole story
Most of the plot's alright, but I can't help but feel like these were major asspulls
>>26865215Grovyle didn't die?
