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This is getting too ridiculous. I think I'm done.
>>26775957
Cool, the less faggots the better
Then just go.
Don't be THAT attention whore.
Good riddance, faggot.
>>26775957
>>26775957
We won't miss you
I love how the cognitive dissonance of fanboys is keeping them from acknowledging the truth, but deep down we are all feeling it.
At this point most people in /vp/ are still in the denial phase. It's gonna take a few years for people to transition through the other stages.
> implying I give a fuck what you do
>>26775957
No anon, dont go, I will miss you. Just try using them atleast
>>26775957
OK bye
>>26775957
Pikipek is the best.
>>26775957
ok bye
>>26775957
Nobody likes a vocal whiney faggot, fuck off.
>>26775957
>all these faggots even replying to OP instead of ignoring
shows how mad you are. Ok.
You guys are in denial. These designs ARE shit. Theyre becoming over simplistic. I want sugimori to come back. At least his designs looked finished.
>>26775997
we accept it fagmo, unlike you
>>26775957
see you tomorrow
>>26776041
pidgey > hoothoot > taillow > pidove > pipipek > starly > fletchling
and while we are at it
sentret > bidoof > rattata > zigzagoon > yangoos > patrat > bunnelby
>>26775957
I cant believe that garbage is the regional bird.
would you rather have gen 1 carbon copies like gen 5 did?
>>26775957
Don't do it, anon. This community needs you.
>>26775957
Completely agree. Pokemon ended when they switched to cartoon art. Nupokemon is still fun but the art doesn't come close to the original pokemon games and thats just an established fact
>>26776041
>implying owls are birds
http://www.strawpoll.me/10508355
http://www.strawpoll.me/10508355
http://www.strawpoll.me/10508355
>>26776041
Starly>Pidgey>Tailow>Fletchling>Pipipek>Hoothoot>Pidove
also
Zigzagoon>Rattata>Sentret>Bidoof>Yangoos>Bunnelby>Patrat
>>26776041
Agreed.
>>26776204
>3 stage ghost type
>dual type
>level up to evolve 2nd stage, stone for final evo
>>26776247
Gengar doesn't use a stone to evolve you idiot
>2016
>pokemon
who cares, it died back in 2002 or so
niche as fuck nowdays, no one even cares and the last games were awful and only sold because everyone had a 3ds
>>26776153
I would rather choose Emolga than Pikachu. Gengar best, but at least you can get chandelure without having to trade.
>>26776153
You have a very loose definition of carbon copy.
>>26776224
I agree with this
>>26776263
>>26776153
>carbon copy
>horse w/ horn and flames compared to a zebra both with completely different color schemes
yeah sounds right about /vp/'s speed
>>26776041
None of them matter because birds are not that important.
>>26776263
>4th gen sold 2-3 Mio more despite DS having twice as much owners
yeah...that is the reason why Pokemon is popular...
>>26776153
I think the Arcanine-Stoutland connection is pushing it...one is a two-stage line, the other is a three-stage.
Also, I think not including Alakazam-Gothitelle was a missed opportunity. Both are pure-Psychic three-stage lines.
>>26776085
Sugi was advocating for simplicity in the finalized designs last gen anyways.
this webm is an accurate depiction of the current state of the franchise
>>26776308
Why the hell would you compare cubone to a koala?
>>26776336
not him, but maybe because they are both holding natural objects
>>26776330
Colorful and fun?
>>26775957
you seem a little late
>>26775957
Kids dont give a shit
>>26776085
>>26775957
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>26776263
>last games were great and everyone only had a 3ds to buy them
fix'd*
>>26776430
are you a kid?
>>26775957
Not true
>>26775957
That old art is pretty shitty.
gen 6 killed pokemon
ITT: genwunner
>>26776486
But Pokemon Go is coming out during Gen 7
>>26776349
I fail to see the point, I would fuck both.
fucking good, i hope they won't try to edgelord the new starters this time
>>26776486
gen 5 is when the shit designs began
Poor sugi they probably made him draw simpler designs for the kiddies
humiliating
>>26776041
>Leaving out the best gen 1 starter bird
Absolutely criminal
>>26775999
>steven faggot universe
>>26776486
>>26776494
>>26776598
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine, get a bigger load of it
>>26775957
Good, you wasting space anyway.
>>26776623
That's because spearow wasn't the token bird
>>26776447
>last games were great
>XY
you what?
I agree that gen 4 and 5 were great though
>>26775957
>anywhere after 1996
>using designs as argument when Voltorb and Magnemite exists
>>26776486
>sylveon
>diancie
fight me irl
>>26776683
why do people hate magnemite's design? its cute
>>26776683
>decoy pokemon
>>idea so good they did it again
And what's wrong with magnemite, or do you mean the evolution changes?
>>26776664
He's in an odd position. He is definitely a starter mon to me because you can easily catch him before entering the first gym. He's not on the very first route you encounter, but neither is Taillow (or Hoothoot if you're playing in the day). He's not a three stager, but neither is Hoothoot or Taillow.
I don't feel like there are two sets of starter birds, though. He's just kind of unusual. I always liked him way better than Pidgey though.
>>26776486
Totally agree with this
The only thing is that Diggersby, one of the best gen 6 pokémon, shouldn't be there.
>>26776041
Pidove is best, ruined by its evos
>>26776712
>First bird you see vs not first bird you see
guess which one is the starter
>>26776598
>gen 5 is when the shit designs began
Nice meme.
Sugi loves shitty simplistic designs, why do you think he hates venusaur and his favorite pokemon is garbage like gengar?
>>26776705
>>26776710
Its just a sphere with a pair of magnets.
Also magneton is just 3 magnemites.
Also I dont hate it. I am just saying that it is incorrect to blame new pokemon when such designs were always a thing.
>>26776041
>second gen bird is literally just a circle
Holy shit it happened sooner than we thought.
>>26776308
This pic doesn't compare art. Use the sugimori art otherwise its a pointless comparison
>>26776643
Fuck these are good
>>26776153
> a hermit crab with a slab of stone as a shell is a ripoff a cicada nymph with a mushroom growing out of it
>>26776256
what
>>26776192
I prefer the art direction of the older gens but like the ideas of pokemon in the newer gens
>>26776153
Parallel evolution. To be fair, Kanto and Unova are on the opposite side of the PokeWorld
>>26776643
I really like the mosquito, cicada, and elephant.
I would love to have those as pokemon.
>>26776153
Gen 5 is supposed to represent the way different things evolve on different continents
Some are too similar however
>>26776794
>>26776844
This is the exact reason that pokemon designs are getting worse, fags like these people
>>26776263
>no one even cares
>all the views for Sun and Moon
>Pokemon GO
>no one cares
>>26776643
>shows designs better than most pokemon
Was this part of your plan?
>>26776855
Nah, it's furfaggots that like eeveelutions, lucario, lopunny, and braixen that are ruining pokemon.
>>26776887
>pokemon based on animals are bad
???
>>26776794
>>26776844
>>26776872
>>26776153
Leave Garbodor alone, he completes the pollution trio, Wheezing is air, Muk is water, and Garbodor is land.
>>26776899
No, but having unnecessary amounts of cutesy and bipedal mammals is. It's especially bad when they are designed by someone who clearly wants to fuck them.
It's shit yes, but lets not pretend every gen didn't have its shitters. There will be some more cool mons too... hopefully.
>>26776855
Gen one is my favourite gen design wise and I think yokai watch has perfect designs for the tone of the game
>>26776041
Pidgey > Pikipek > Taillow > Starly > Hoothoot > Fletchling > Pidove
only based on basic forms, evos are a different ranking entirely
So far Gen VII seems back on track design wise, imo
>>26777155
Pidgey > Pidove > Hoothoot > Starly > Fletchling > Pikipek > Taillow
>>26776955
Garbodor wouldn't get so much hate if he didn't look awful. And if he wasn't worse than Muk in every way.
>>26777264
that's amazing
>>26776733
t. american in denial
enjoy your shit starters regional shit and those hideous art box legendaries beside the useless magnemite rip off and inferior bst and viability copies of rapidash etc
>>26775957
cry harder, anon
>>26776907
Literally the only "meh" design there is Mochismo, the very first one in the top left.
The rest are fantastic, and certainly look better than any Pokemon from gen 3 onwards.
>>26777307
I don't understand this post, are you having a stroke or something? Please calm down.
>>26776085
>Simple is bad
>>26776955
Never though about it that way anon. Thanks for the new perspective. Now you know what we need right?
Poison/flying weezing
Poison/water muck
Poison/ground Garbodor
>>26775962
this
>>26775957
No worries OP i'm with you. Don't listen to these cockgobblers. Every gen got worse. Gen4 is when it got out of hand. I only use gen 1 pokemon no matter then gen of pokemon game. Fuck the abomination it hs become but remember the old days.
>>26777513
>pokememes
Your heart was in the right place but you made it too obvious.
Have a pity (You).
>>26776041
It's so well designed I love it so much, shape and colors are perfect, prob my fav 7th gen pkmn by now.
Am I the only one here who isn't autistic about Pokemon designs and think the new ones look fine?
>>26775957
how did we go from this?
>>26775957
to this?
>>26776121
>Fletchling not at the very top
>Yungoos that low
Terrible taste.
>>26777611
You can see his eyes yelling : pls kill me.
>>26776310
>birds are not that important
>forgetting about Bravest Bird
>>26777264
That is incredible to show exactly what the problem is. Pokémon is now a fucking cartoon.
>>26776041
T A I L L O W
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>>26777264
Eyes aren't angry enough on that Zorua to be Gen I
Time to stop whining, you don't even remember the original designs.
>>26776085
>over simplistic
Faggot Gen 1 gave us a rock with arms, two circles with faces and assorted blobs with faces.
>>26777324
>>26777307
>shitting on pokemon designs
>in 2016
This is a toughie, how about a load of this?
>>26777989
Where is farting ass yokai
>>26777981
And that rock is more anatomically detailed than the majority of animal Pokemon after gen 1.
>>26778044
Doesn't make it any less unoriginal or bland.
>>26778044
Oh yeah, look at all that delicious detail.
What an intricate design.
>>26776041
>That Fletchling
God, that art is utter dogshit. It looks fine in the anime, could Sugimori just not be bothered that day?
>>26777989
I never really got what was wrong with these. They look like Earthbound enemies or something, that's kind of neat.
>>26777264
Saved! That Zorua looks amazing!
>>26778118
Don't be disingenuous.
>>26778118
> Geodude
> Because is a rock dude
Ok Game Freak.
>>26776153
Don't you mean carbink copy?
>>26776085
Lol you retards always spout buzzwords like "overdesigned" but the second you can't use that any more you switch over to "too simple"
Just accept the fact that you're a genwunner and/or hoennbaby who is afraid of change and new things.
>>26777264
That Pidgey is fucking adorable.
>>26778292
This
>>26778279
delete this
>complex detailed Pokemon
>"OVERDESIGNED PIECES OF SHIT!"
>simple Pokemon
>"NO EFFORT BLOBS AND COLORS LAZY FUCKERS!"
>Pokemon that resemble the original 151
>"NO IMAGINATION CARBON COPIES STOP STEALING STYLE
>Pokemon that do their own thing
>"NOT POKEMON RUINED FOREVER DIGIMON ARE THE CHAMPIONS YOKAI WATCH RIPOFFS!"
The moral of the story is: All of you are crybabies who hate everything and need to throw shitfits for the sake of it.
>>26777968
No one is talking about the sprites you retard
>>26775957
If it weren't for that terrible looking mouth Yungoos would be cool. Pikipek is irredeemable garbage.
>>26778625
>one person shares all these opinions
Did it ever cross your mind that maybe people arguing contradictory points are actually different people who prefer certain designs for different reasons than other people? You whining about your point makes you exactly the same as the people you're calling out
>>26778625
>someone is not sucking Gamefreak's cock and liking everything they make
>THEY MUST BE A CRYBABY WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT EVERYTHING!!!
>>26777611
>>26777594
With you there, I'm pretty good everywhere else but the cards are where the nostalgia hit hard.They're also just better.
>>26778625
Do you think it's the same people who cry about all of those things?
>>26778881
>>26778831
>>26778820
>>26778782
I know it's different people, and this proves why game companies should NEVER listen to the fanbase.
>>26776153
with what Unova did to Kanto, will Alola do the same with Hoenn?
>>26776637
that's adventure time you moron
See you in November, OP.
>>26776643
These work well for their purpose. Fucking hell man. Yokai Watch is not that much of a carbon copy of Pokémon.
>>26775997
i already know nintedo's design is shit.
>>26779076
Gamefreak is not Nintendo.
>>26775957
Well at least the right's eyes are better, they actually have animal eyes instead of human-like ones.
>>26777989
If you're gonna shitpost about YKW you should at least pick some of the bad designs.
>>26779171
Like these
>>26777359
Yes please
Weezing gets a special defense boost because how do you hit a gas cloud.
Muk becomes faster ooze with a signature move that guarantees a toxic on water types.
Garbodor becomes Garbodorah, becoming huge, bipedal with higher defense and attack.
This thread is living breathing proof that you're all a bunch of kids, half edge lord newfags, half tumblr loving faggots, who just argue over literally nothing, hate on the recent gen because it's a fad, and lock yourselves in an endless childish online argument until leaks come out and you shut up. You're all pathetic, holy fuck. Either love the games and play them or don't fucking come here and spread your shit, and that goes for the Nintendo cocksuckers too who excuse lazy designs like yungoose and people who shit on the people who shit on the new displayed type effectiveness for not beingg a lazy handholding game mechanic
>>26777989
All of them, terrible
>>26779318
How is Yungoos "lazy"? Please tell us how much detail and in what style is required for a Pokemon design to not be lazy.
>>26779318
Is this Copypasta?
>>26779318
>stop invading my hugbox!
>dont say anything bad about the game!
>i hate it when people insult my favorite game!
>>26779417
That's what I'm calling out you le memestar fucking idiot
>>26779386
Mostly just the face, it just doesn't mesh, I actually really like the body shape, tail, and everything about it. But the eyes and mouth, they don't blend with the body or with each other
>>26779555
Look fine to me. It has beady black mongoose eyes and a toothy snarl to show that it's perpetually pissed off.
>>26779595
It's one of those mons that would look fine in any medium other than one still frame of art, it's in game model looks better
But the art is just so bad, and I like the Pokemon. The mouth is out of proportion, misshapen, and it doesn't blend well. They would've done better to have gone for a cartoony half snarling toothy grin
>>26779678
How does it look bad in one medium but good in all other mediums when it looks the exact same in all of them?
>>26775957
>>26776153
Gen 5 was truly cancer
Gen 7 is an improvement over Gen 5
>>26776781
What? Are you stupid or something? All of those are official art, and Sugimori doesn't do all official Pokémon art anymore.
This is getting too ridiculous. I think I'm done.
>>26779847
What's wrong with those?
>>26779941
They're terrible, you Unovabortion
>>26779963
Can you even have a normal discussion? Do you always have to shitpost about everything?
>>26776192
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10508355
>all those votes for new
Proof that /vp/ is infested with even more underaged than /v/ now.
>>26780013
>anyone that disagrees with me is a n-newfag!!
>>26777574
No, I think we're the only ones left. Honestly my biggest question is: Why do we care? Honestly, why do we have to make a big deal about designs. Yes artstyle changes and you don't have to like it, but is it THAT detrimental? Can you know longer find and form favorites from the growing batches of new Pokemon?
Look at all the faggot genwunners in this thread
>>26776452
I'm a squid
>>26776153
that was literally the point of the generation, it showed that the pokemon in each region, likely all from the same common ancestor, evolved to fill each niche in both ecosystems
>>26780279
No the designs are complete shit and Im a Unovafag.
>>26776041
Pidove. However, Pidove deserves a better evolution line.
Also, is anyone else disturbed by Hoothoot's uni-foot?
>>26776494
literally edgy
>>26779318
This post is literally "why dont people just agree with me all the time?"
>>26776224
>putting pidove last
whoa
>>26780013
More like
>proof that different tastes exist, and I'm a huge faggot who gets triggered by opinions that conflict with my own
>>26776041
pidgey/hoothoot > taillow/pikipek > pidove >>>>>> starly/fletchling
>>26779847
gen 5 designs had effort put into them, gen 7 designs look like something a kid would draw
>>26776310
this is a nice post :)
>>26776041
Starly > Pikipek > Pidgey > Taillow > Hoothoot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Pidove
>>26777264
>tfw that Pikipek will never be real
>>26781648
Gen 7 are good ideas drawn by a kid
Gen 5 are kids ideas drawn by a deviantart artist
I'll go with Gen 7
>>26779030
>getting baited that easily
Reddit stay out
>>26777513
>spot the genwunner
>>26776812
WE'VE GOT A LIVE ONE
>>26776041
Fletching > Pidove > Starly > Pidgey > Pikipek > Taillow
>>implying owls are birds
>>26776440
These are awesome, what the hell is this?
>>26776728
So Wingull should be the Hoenn bird
>faggots shun new Pokemon for being too overdesigned
>GF makes designs more basic in S/M
>faggots shun new designs for being too "cartoony"
You can't fucking win.
>>26777989
I wish pokemon looked as good. No wonder Jokai Watch is so popular in japan
>>26776780
Yeah, overdesigned piece of shit.
>>26781756
Good.
He looks like a balding Jewish redhead who doesn't know how to brush his hair.
>>26781846
This is a stupid rebuttal, because it implies that everyone should always want to debate things, when sometimes people just want to talk about the things they like without having to defend liking them.
This comic is just a way of saying "I don't care" and it does so in a way to be humorous. I don't see the problem with it.
>>26781846
>not giving a shit that people have different opinions is somehow worse than getting yourself into buttmad arguments over literally nothing
stay mad though, faggot.
>thinking its a recent problem
>>26776041
taillow, pidove, pikipek, hoothoot pidgey, fletch, starly
Every single pokemon design thread I swear
>>26777885
Yeah exactly. It's not the designs themselves, it's the style that people are complaining about. They're rounder, smoother and have simpler shapes. It might be to counter the complaints from Gen 4 and 5 where people said that Pokemon were getting "too cluttered".
>>26777968
Old Pidgey is CUTE
>>26781846
While I do agree with what the comic says and the implication that simply using an image for an arguments rebuttal is pretty silly, the problem here is OP didnt really set up an argument of any kind. He just sorta said "I dont like the new pokemon, im done with pokemon." Which is fine, if you find yourself not enjoying pokemon anymore, yes maybe its time to move.
But if your going to argue that every pokemon you dislike is bad just because they dont look like what they use to, your not really presenting any case for yourself.
First, yes pokemon designs have changed. Everything changes overtime and thats something everyone has to be able to accept or at least deal with if your going to be happy in life. GF figured they wanted to alter the way they designed pokemon. Maybe it was because they felt adding certain symmetry to hair and feathers looked better then having wild untamed hair like Raticate (probably for the fact it is suppose to be kind of a cartoony monster game).
Secondly, if pokemon were all designed to appeal to the tastes of one kind of person, it would be doing much worse. The fact you see so much conflict on vp about designs is because pokemon is able to fill tons of niche's that people enjoy. Vanniluxe was probably never intended to be as popular as Charizard, but Vanniluxe does find itself with a fanbase because its weird and goofy design. It doesn't really translate to being a worse design, because the argument of a design or drawing being 'good' is almost always purely subjective, and comes down to the persons personal tastes.
And lets be honest here, there will probably be 800 pokemon now. Even if you stopped liking the designs since gen 3 or 4, thats still a pretty huge amount of usable pokemon to enjoy. If your really that angry about how they look now however, i'de say either stick with what you like, or try opening your mind up a little and indulging in a little harmless fun. Feels good.
>>26781908
I think they're murrikan Yo-Kais from Yo-Kai Watch 3.
you're late OP
>>26777264I like the Vupix and Pidgey redesign better than their original, and hate the Zorua and Pikipek redesign
>>26775957
The mongoose looks terrible. Worst regional rodent by far.
The bird looks great.
>>26782551
I bet you love Neopets too.
>>26776041
They didn't even try after gen 4.
>>26776153
Gen 5 is truly one of the worst generations.
>>26776085
Over simplistic
Over designed
Fuck you guys are annoying. Just leave if you hate pokemon so much, complaining on an anonymous message board is just wasting your time.
Just shut the fuck up and leave no one wants to hear you whine like a little bitch
>>26775957
I'm with you on that. Straw that broke the camel's back. I guess the Pokemon series never was what I wanted it to be from the start, but the things you like in it are just sapped out of it release after release. Nothing keeping ya here still but force of habit at this point y'know?
>>26779185
>tsuchinoko
>badwould you kindly go to /k/ and blow the dca horn?
These are the same faggots that wack it to pokeporn, did you really think they were going to agree with you
>>26781846
>someone was so mad they made this edit
>>26776041
>>26777264
The old style made Pokémon look like they were ready for battle.
>>26776308
Why choose Articuno? Worst of the legendary birds IMO
>>26782511
Fuck you, lickilicky is adorable.
>>26775957
>I think I'm done.
No, you just want to make another shitty b8 thread. If you really think that way you wouldn't make thread about it. checkmate fool.
>>26775957
this portrays an accurate depiction of the franchise evolution
I was done when Megas became a thing and people (GF not withstanding) started shilling Pokebank as a feature.
Kids just don't have standards OP. Don't worry too much
>>26786784
>3rd gen was the best
I agree.
>>26776187
>homo x homo
If you're serious and an ice cream cone and garbage bag were not your "im done" moment than you got problems my man.
>>26776486
>shitting on avalugg
You had to put some bait in there, avalug is redemption for vanillish
>>26786494
I'm gonna love using Choice Band Explosion Lickilicky to fuck with people in the new FFA mode
>>26776539
Except it isn't. Go is coming next month, while gen 7 releases in November.
>>26776598
>gen 5
>forgetting gen 4
Sorry, but Rhyperior isn't a gen 5 poke anon.
Besides, you are deluded. All the gens have shit designs.
>>26776844
>what is Nincada
Nincada is way better anon.
>>26776153
So we can have a bazillion dinos and dragons but not a pegasus and a zebra or two jellyfish.
>>26776041
Nope. Pidove is the better solution of a "real animal like" pokemon and "cartoony and simply design"
>>26779901
put sentret there
>>26776804
Not a ripoff, but definitely a reincarnation or at least a reference. There were obvious connections abound in Gen 5. Foongus/Amoongus were Voltorb/Elechode as well. Cubchoo/Beartic were Teddiursa and Ursaring. It was the only game where there were zero past-gen Pokemon until post-game. They definitely referenced a load of Gen 1 lines.
>>26779876
No retard, I mean use the sugimori art for the gen one pokemon so you can actually compare the art. Comparing new art vs new art doesnt make any sense for the argument of whose art is better, you actually have to include BOTH art styles to make a comparison between them
>>26776041
dunno man Hoothoot is 2coot
>>26780181
>>26780201
No one mentioned anything about newfags you projecting, samefagging toddler
>>26780230
>I don't care
>why do we care?
genwunner have been at full force lately
>>26788860
Awesome input. This new opinion will surely turn the tides on this debate.
>>26788860
anti genwunners are worse.
>>26788990
Wow another great original input. Just when I thought the argument was over, this new information just springs out of nowhere. Now I don't know what to think.
>>26788860
>>26788971
>>26788990
>>26789012
you're both annoying fucktards.
>>26777594
>>26777611
Im not saying that the old cards don't have a certain charm newer ones mostly lack thanks to nostalgia goggles/EX cards are largely (but not all) shit, but there's some really nice card art in newer sets that can't be overlooked.
>>26782116
10/10 post
>>26776263
>pokemon
>niche
>>26776153
>adds Zebstrika and Rapidash, which are completely unrelated, but not voltorb and foongus, two ACTUAL carbon copies that serve the same purpose mechanically
What a shit image. the parallel betweengens 1 and 5 is correct though
> Acting as if Pokemon is especially aimed towards manchildren in their 20s and not small children
Stop being stupid. The new designs are fine for kids. Saying it copies other generations is stupid. If gen 5 came out before gen 1 then people would be shitting all over kanto.
Some of you people are blinded by nostalgia and good memories and are angry you can't get that sense of joy back.
>>26781797
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
>>26779185
>shitting on best snake
How could you?
