Is it even possible to find a single flaw in this generation?
Blurry zoomed in sprites
>>26656421
This b8, master
stop
Ugly mons
Shitty fanbase
It ended.
>>26656421
Clearly, you have only experienced the superior W/W2 versions.
The flaw is in the mirrored Black versions: Drayden's (Opelucid? Lacunosa? My memory fails me) city and Black city have way inferior graphics and music to their patrician White counterparts.
And the fire starter line was complete garbage in this generation- Teoig looks like a DA donut steel mon/neopet, Pignite is indifferent, Emboar is just fugly
>>26656457
Oh, and XY as a followup wasn't that great.
>>26656421
Horrible, over designed digimon as pokemon.
I hated White and black. Boring games. Sequels were much better
>>26656470
>Clearly, you have only experienced the superior W/W2 versions.How did you know?
That one girl near the Opelucid City Pokémon Center playing the grass flute(?) was great and solidified my love for the city.
There are countless in BW1 and the few flaws with BW2 involve things carried over from BW1 they didn't fix.
>>26656421
it's not fun, literally the most boring gen
>>26656421
Having to turn on the C-gear Everytime
>>26656470
Great another poltard
Go back to Alabama you racist
>>26656457
>>26656480
These...but to be non bias, BW1 was linear, Seasons should have been a week instead of a month, keys should have been useable from the start.
...that's all I got.
I miss my portable happiness checker(bianca) and by type advantage checker(cheren) from bw2
>>26656494
Such a meme opinion. The only flaw BW had was its linear region, and it was only like that because you had to be put on a track for the story to play out.
>>26656489
>How did you know?
Well you did fail to find the one of the two flaws with the generation, so it was an easy deduction.
You made me remember village bridge with its musicians now. I think I'm gonna boot up my save and just chill there for a couple minutes.
>>26656520
Oh just remembered one. Breeding being post game in BW2 was silly.
>>26656421
Wi-Fi connection ended after not even three years and no technical work-around.
>>26656510
kys
>>26656510
Futuristic Opulecid is pretty fucking ugly anon, Ancient is much better.
Really the only Black visual change better than White is Route 4 in Black 2 is better than White 2.
>>26656502
Care to be specific?
Ex. I counldnt bring myself to grind for the elite 4 level curve because it takes to long to grind in DP on only wild Pokemon
>>26656421
off the top of my head
>the worst sprite animation I've ever seen
>the 10 most uninspired and stupid Pokemon in the series
>tons of functionality attached to a now defunct shitty browser game
>boring, poorly paced story that doesn't deserve N
>FF6's Kefka more-or-less copy-pasted into this game as the main villain
>music replaced with a shitty 20-second loop when your Pokemon are low health
I don't mean to say that they're bad games but they do have flaws
>>26656525
I've been saying this since 2012 and I'm glad it's become the meme opinion, because it's true.
>>26656545
Maybe i'm weird but I liked neo opulecid city. Reminded me of sonic CD with the whole future look and music
>>26656421
30fps
it started the whole handholding design-phase which XY perfected
Also the region is worse than Hoenn and Sinnoh
I want a BW3. Why am I even alive it won't happen
>>26656600
>Also the region is worse than Hoenn and Sinnoh
Nah.
>>26656421
1. The region (bland, linear, boring)
2. The new pokemon designs (no need to add anything, we all know what Im talking about)
3. The graphisms (pixelized sprites, shitty overworld)
>>26656604
Not even mad, have a rare Kino for your efforts
>>26656421
Elemental monkey trio
>>26656563
The Pokemon at low health had been like that since gen 1
>>26656606
>1. The region (bland, linear, boring)
>2. The new pokemon designs (no need to add anything, we all know what Im talking about)
Neither of these are flaws, that's just your terrible taste seeping into your posts.
>>26656625
it's just a sound effect in every other generation
5th gen flat-out replaces the music
>>26656626
Not him, but Unova had the best and worst designs at the same time. They shouldn't have focused on quantity
I should've been able to romance Yancy as Mei
>>26656626
it's a copypasta
>>26656635
Nope, only best.
>>26656625
Gen 1~4 had a beeping play over the regular music constantly and was annoying. Gen 5 had a separate music track entirely which totally kills the flow of the battle. Gen 6 had the best with one quick set of beeps then business as usual.
>>26656635
Well go play XY then, because that game has neither, fuck expecting effort in a big budget game right?
>>26656421
It's my favourite gen, but the low HP music is annoying (granted better than that beeping), not a major problem at all though. It just takes me out of things like gym battles.
Main flaw is B/W being linear, sequel fixed it
>>26656653
>elemental monkeys
>effort
>>26656667
I agree
>>26656653
Haha, like fucking clockwork!
Everytime Unovabortions get their shitty gen criticized, they'll shit on Gen 6 to try and make their own look better
I'll start caping when it happens now, I saw it like a sozen of times these last 3 days
>>26656653
I'm talking about the fucking monkeys and the worst regional birds and rodent.
It's a flaw for so many trash mon's it's 99% garbage until pinwheel forest then it gets really good
>>26656673
No, you fucking troll
it's literally one design with the hair changed and the basic design isn't even well-done
they exist entirely to teach kids how to build a balanced team
>>26656667
There's over 150 Unova Pokemon, the monkeys are irrelevant.
>>26656676
>I'll start caping
Do you think anyone cares?
Because a lot of people shit on gen 6, both of its games were incomplete and everyone here knows it. It's an unfinished gen, an actual joke.
>>26656421
I swear to god this fucking shitpost
>>26656684
Jesus Christ Unova is my favorite region, I can call out its flaws too, nothing is perfect.
>>26656692
Fuck off Reddit.
MUH PURRLOIN!!!
MUH IDEALS!!!
MUH PEOPLE ARE EVIL TO POKEMON
>>26656694
OP just wants another shistorm, lets just move along
>>26656689
Don't sugarcoat it, they're completely finished. Claiming they aren't implies that they had a deadline they HAD to meet. GF just didn't have high sights for them.
>>26656689
This. Just compare the animated trailers
>>26656689
>It's an unfinished gen, an actual joke.
And yet, it's still more loved than shitty gen 5 outside of this contrarian board
There was a poll about the Japanese people's favorite pokemon recently.
Guess which gen was the winner?
And guess which gen was the absolute least loved pokemon?
>>26656676
I'm not trying anything.
>>26656679
Emolga is pretty good.
>>26656684
So they have both a purpose, aren't clones of existing mon, and have both a folkloric and pop-culture design-point to them. Tons of effort.
Is teaching kids about something a bad thing?
Seems like another effort thing.
>>26656705
>outside of this contrarian board
Then why don't you leave?
No one will miss you.
>>26656705
So normie's opinions are only okay when you agree with them?
>>26656703
>they HAD to meet
Are you saying they didn't? You can easily tell XY is unfinished by the blatant pacing issues it has. Replay the game for all I care.
>>26656705
You take the opinions of retarded nips who thime and time again show that they have shit taste and only give any shit about their flavor of the month garbage that represents the "strength of Nippon" faggotry that they love.
>>26656725
I did not even a month ago. I honestly think they did everything they wanted to, the game even had the longest dev time since RG. They just had their priorities from a design standpoint mixed up, and the game suffered for it.
ORAS though does have some signs of being rushed. The first three towns, if you examine the sign with its slogan, the camera zooms out and pans over it all, it's a really nice effect. None of the following towns have this.
>>26656725
I did awhile ago and it's probably the worst experience I've had in pokemon
>>26656773
All you do is spout bullshit non-sequitur that comes down to your opinion that is a complete 180 of what you originally stated. Thus I conclude you're baiting and thinking I care about your subjectivism while all I did was state an objective fact that can be concluded through playing the game yourself. I noticed it the first time I played it, I noticed it the 2nd time I played it.
>>26656783
I played through a version with properly scaled pokemon levels etc this time around and I still agree
>>26656783
>and it's probably the worst experience I've had in pokemon
I see you skipped gen 5
Good for you
>>26656710
I'm saying that it's stupid for 6 Pokémon to exist solely for a single gym's gimmick. What the fuck does "folkloric and pop-culture" mean? They're shitty cartoon monkeys with a tree, a cartoon flame, and a water spout on their heads. They're incredibly lazily made.
I love how many edgelords are in this thread.
>>26656801
First you said it was effortless, and now you're back-pedaling and claiming it's 'stupid'?
Stupid isn't an adjective I can really discuss, it's an opinion. And I didn't ask for yours.
>>26656803
Well, it's a thread dedicated to the edgy "mature" gen...
>>26656811
I said they were lazily done in that post, friend
>>26656828
And I said >>>26656710
Next time, respond to what I've got to say so I don't have to be a broken record.
>>26656790
Nope, my legit feelings. The game's shit, but I don't think it was rushed, and its devtime in comparison to other entries backs that up. Pretty much every flaw feels like a conscious decision to me. It doesn't seem like "oh, we want to do this, but we don't have the time", but rather that they didn't even think of actually doing things like putting anything into the other Power Pant doors or maybe a bike race on Cylage's track, but rather they just put that shit there because "look at our graphics!" and the like. It feels more like negligence, in a way, to me. But I guess that's just another viewpoint.
I thought more about ORAS, and yeah, it was most likely rushed.
>>26656794
Nope I've replayed W2 4 times regular, challenge mode, Nuzlocke, and I'm currently doing an N run
>>26656854
Yes they're just your legit contradictory feelings, nothing objective about them at all.
>>26656854
I mean the new things ORAS had was top notch but there was very little, to be fair I really like the admin and leaders having story, they reall salvaged the story imo
With the closure of WFC, lack of ability to:
>grow berries
>change C-Gear and Dex skins (available with powersaves/dongle whatever it's called)
>no way to get all medals in B2W2
>Entree Forest losing it's meaning (you can inject mons to it with some program, but powersaves/whatevs needed for it too)
other than WFC based cons, I find this gen fine, I liked the idea of making a pokemon game where you have to progress without being able to use older pokemon and having to rely on unkown to you ones.
>>26656421
The region is linear, there was over-reliance on online features that are now deactivated, and the difficulty settings we all love so much are hidden behind this stupid link-up gimmick.
>>26656871
Saying they were rushed are just your feelings as well, since we don't know the hard truth of everything about the dev cycle of the games. I guess believing in the ideal that Game Freak was just rushed with XY and hadn't just gone delusional as so many good devs have done in recent years especially those related to Nintendo is preferable, though.
>>26656907
>The region is linear
Everyone says that but no one says why it is a bad thing
>over-reliance on online features that are now deactivated
That is the big problem though. Dream World was as much a part of the game as anywhere else and now its impossible to access
>>26656896
I think even if the wifi was still around (and I believe private servers are still around for games like pokemon) still not having these features in-game is a flaw in of itself.
Same with gen 6 not having the medals in-game.
>>26656908
Read >>>26656790
Them being my 'feelings' doesn't make me wrong.
>>26656606
>>26656684
>>26656801
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>26656931
I completely agree, sir. They should've made these features in-game, not website only.
>>26656964
>shitting on Yokai-Watch designs when the ice cream, the gears and the trash bag exist
>>26656931
>Gen VI medals
Totally forgot they existed
>>26657012
>trash bag being worse than a blob of slime
>>26656964
FUCKING STOP
>>26657012
Have you never been to New York? There's Trash bags on every side street
>>26657028
>>26656931
What medals?
>>26657087
Are we forced to include the shitty stuff of real life in Pokemon though?
Was Lumiose full of arabs anf gypsies?
>>26657105
Exactly
>>26657106
Well a shitty Negro was your neighbor
I would have to say the over-reliance on online features. GameFreak couldn't have possibly expected the DS's WFC to last forever. It's a real fucking shame though, because BW2 isn't even 4 years old yet and the servers got shut down two years ago. BW2 only had a 1 and a half to utilize the online shit. A YEAR AND A HALF
GameFreak should host their own WFC strictly for all Pokemon games and stay separate from Nintendo to prevent shit like this happening.
>>26656421
Take a drink every time you get interrupted in the overworld by forced dialogue with an npc and you'll die.
>b8 thread
>almost 100 replies
>>26657130
I mean they were good features
>>26657135
>discussing a game objectively is now considered bait
I don't really care for you. If I can keep the thread alive, the 10 or so worthwhile posts in this thread are worth it.
>>26657135
There's actually discussion here. On X and Y.....
>>26657159
This. You're a bro anon
>>26657159
>>26657163
You forget that discussion on /vp/ is often like playing chess with a pigeon
I remember this board really liking these games when they were the current generation. Did people change their minds? I really like them personally, probably my favorite tied with HGSS. Also the whole "everyone outside this board hates these games" argument just simply isn't true.
>>26657159
The issue is that this exact same thread was made yesterday
>>26657193
no see, threads are different
>>26657190
>everyone outside this board hates these games
Considering I doubt most here discuss pokemon games outside of here, people wouldn't know
>>26656421
i didn't even play b2/w2 but the first were great
Biggest flaw is the both cover legendaries are fucking stupid looking just like gen 4
>>26657232
>Biggest flaw is the both cover legendaries are fucking stupid looking just like gen 4
They're literally the Yu-Gi-Oh dragons with digimonified designs
I still dont get how GF got away with it
Black and White 1 have loads of problems. The region is incredibly linear.
Your friends are really annoying
Some of the pokemon are less than stellar or just dex filler.
Black and White 2 are still a bit linear, but other than that there are pretty much zero problems.
Overall Gen 5 gave us the best pokegirls and pokeguys so there really isn't a lot to complain about. The gen also had the most hype on this board.
>>26657248
Hey atlease we actually got purple eyes gray dragon with shiny kyurem
>>26657266
>The region is incredibly linear.
>>26656926
>>26657275
You can't really explore anything besides some straight routes. Thats the problem with a linear region.
When replay-through the problem only grows.
>>26657266
>Overall Gen 5 gave us the best pokegirls
Hahaha, far from it
>The gen also had the most hype on this board.
This board is full of Americans blinded by nationalism
Why do you think Gen 5 is still worshipped here despite being unanimously aknowledged as the worst everywhere else?
>>26657275
I can see what people mean by this, usually it fucks up the level curve
>>26657291
What gen had the better girls?
Gen 5 was king.
You cannot even deny that Gen 5 had the best pokeguys.
>>26657334
Shauna is better than any individual gen 5 skank
but b2/w2 girl and iris are a little better when combined
>>26657334
I dont about guys, im not a faggot, but Gen 3, 4 and 6 all better girls than Gen 5
Hell, even Gen 2 with Jasmine alone does
>>26657291
(You) earned it
>>26657248
>YGH invented anything
Sick of this meme, Dark Magician is about as creative as YGH gets.
Kek, the gen wars in this thread is real
>>26657425
Tell me about it
>>26657342
Is this b8? No one likes Iris here
>>26657440
This needs to be updated fampai
>>26657461
I do. I really enjoyed her champion theme. Didn't like her anime counterpart that much tho.
>>26657469
it does, but I'm too lazy to do it. Anyone else is open to do it though.
>>26657480
That's what I mean, but no one calls her a waifu. She's a fine champion but anime has ruined 99% of people's thoughts
>>26657461
>its b8 to not be homosexual
epic lad
>>26657354
>not liking guys
fucking queer.
On the topic of pokegirls.
Gen 5 is the best
>>26657440
Need some more /vp/ related pastas like this guy
>>>26657291
>>26656667
It was nice to see an almost alternate starter trio imo
>>26657440
Needs "[X] gen has best girls"
>>26656421
>Nintendo DS
There, found a flaw, anon.
>>26656421
Yes. The entirety of black and white 1
>never played Black/White 2 at all
>start White 2
>dat fucking combat speed
I haven't played Gen V since 2011. Was it always this fucking fast?
>>26657724
That's some nice contrarianism you have right there.
>>26656421
Here is the objective, correct answer.
BW:
>Stiflingly linear level designs
>Routes oversaturated with Rival battles (Cheren, Bianca, N) making them lose some of their hype
>Trainers have Elemental Monkeys every route (I get that you liked the concept, GF, but it wasn't clever enough to warrant its overuse)
>Poor pacing that had you fighting the same repetitive pre-evs up until the fifth gym
>Battle Subway didn't give out enough BP to warrant the time you invested in it
BW2:
>New Team Plasma was one-dimensional and flat, swapping out morally ambiguous knights for generic, evil mooks
>Story lacked the feeling of mounting tension BW1 had
>Team Plasma trying to take over Unova in such a convoluted way (hurr durr cover it in ice!)
I think that's it, although I could be missing something. Either way, all that aside, these are fantastic games.
>>26656421
I dropped White for two weeks during my first playthrough because I just couldn't stand everything between Castelia and whatever that city with the flying gym was called.
White 2 was much better in retrospect, but with half of it's major features being forever fucked over by the NWFC close-up I can't see myself replaying this game anytime soon
>>26657266
>best pokeguys
>not gen 6 and gen 7
Stop this meme lie.
>>26657944
>morally-ambiguous
Here we go.
>grunts literally found kicking a Munna early in the game
>>26657913
battles are 60 fps, overworld is 30 fps
>>26657966
Just grunts, all early game grunts are shit and boring in Pokemon. Later encounters had Plasma members seem intelligent, threatening, and complicated.
Although yeah, probably "morally-ambiguous" isn't the right word cuz GF clearly implies they're all bad. Still, it was nice having a team that'd spew philosophical (as philosophical as a fucking pokemon game can be) quotes at you pre-battle and have a moral high ground to flee to. Was really disappointed when they completely backpedaled on that in BW2.
>>26657291
This, polls support Unova as one of the least loved regions and as usual Americans are taught to be Americentric since kindergarten and still are that dumb to support whatever comes related to their country, shit or not.
They'd even defend the Unova anime or claim they have won VGC tours despite losing them or winning them with chinks and spics and then shitposting about said people being rappresented in the games or hating on VGC.
>>26657291
>>26658021
Why does this meme persist?
Do you really have no other argument?
Tell me your favourite region, I want to shitpost, too.
>>26657994
They completely backpedaled the second time you see Team Plasma the next town over in BW. And the Grunts weren't any more serious or threatening or whatever later in the game. Wasn't the "I won't stand for people who have different opinions!" guy from when you backtrack to the desert before the climax? I'm pretty their hypocrisy was played for laughs throughout most of the game in the same way Flare Grunts' obsession with literal beauty was.
>>26658035
How do you deal by intentionally refusing the truth?
>>26658021
I have a theory better the games the worse the anime. Case in point. Unova and Kalos bring opposites, then Johto sucking and DP bring good anime wise
>>26656421
Its my favorite generation but one flaw is that the starters are all overshadowed very easily
>BW undisputed bottom tier
>BW2 undisputed top tier
Are we done here?
>>26658039
They did get more threatening, right about Chargestone Cave is where they really start to pick up. You begin to run into Plasma members who legitimately believe in their cause and want to free Pokemon.
The desert guy is important to all this, because he shows that Team Plasma's flaws isn't their beliefs, it's their rejection of all beliefs. The hypocrisy wasn't for laughs -- earlier Grunts provided humor just by being weak/saying ridiculous things, but the hypocrisy was to highlight human nature. That's why when you make it to N's Castle it's so tragic when you start to run into the members who truly believed in what they were doing and are seeing how they've been manipulated.
Team Flare isn't as solid as a team because they were being used for laughs the whole time, completely. Flare was lampshaded, Plasma was used as a deconstruction for the themes of Ideals vs. Truth.
At its core, BW had way more complicated themes than any other Pokemon game. That's not saying much for a children's game, sure, but in the context of the series, that's why its story is considered so unusually good. It's not a straight-up "evil team is evil and want to destroy the world," it's "evil team is philosophically misguided for these reasons."
>>26658126
This feels very... Biased. Not in a bad way but more like you want to like Plasma more than Flare more than Plasma actually being better. Flare Grunts were used to illustrate a point about shallow people who don't know about Lysandre and the scientist's greater plans. Lysandre proposed donations to fund making the world more beautiful. Most Grunts give the donations because it looks good and they get recognition for it. Most are spoiled rich kids who fell into money and don't know the real world and just wanted to be in the kool kids klub. Lysandre used money as a metric to measure some people's worth in society, however. As he himself was a philanthropist, he assumed everyone who would give their money up believed in the cause he believed in. Turns out that's not the case, obviously, and it wasn't his only metric (he appreciates your and Diantha's good hearts as well and wants to save you) but it was a quantifiable one for something thats otherwise pretty tough to quantify (how do you determine someone's value to society?) and the one that funded Flare's activities.
I'm not sure I even follow what you're saying. Some Grunts believed in their cause but most of the ones we see aren't them, but either way there's Grunts on each side hence the split in BW2. But I don't think the difference in ideologies is representative of the truth versus ideals conflict. I do think Plasma in general was (concealing the truth of their motivations behind a facade of ideals) but besides that I don't get what you mean, especially the rejection of all beliefs thing. I do think BW had the best ideas but I also think it executed them very poorly which hurts even more knowing how good the ideas were. I think it was really undermined BT having a "true final boss" which renders the conflict of truth versus ideals between you and N pointless since it turns out his perception of the world was warped by Ghetsis anyway and you two were actually both on the same side.
>>26658400
Everyone here is shallow though, that's not a commentary. We never see the grunt stand up for themselves or change or act different, they're all dumb. You're using a lot of headcannoning there about buying in, and who joined. These are people who have hissy fits when they lose and stroke your ego. It's not character driven like BW intensional like was, they are like that to show their bad and lame. Flare never accomplished anything beside mega evolving a Pokemon
>>26658586
We don't see anyone realizing the error of their way or admitting what they did was wrong. That's not devolpement
>>26658400
I can see all your points, and I like your perspective on Team Flare. I also see how I wasn't very clear.
>>26658586
This sums up my problems with Team Flare, all that being said. The deeper you go into a pokemon game, the more the grunts believe in their cause. The problem was, all of Flare's members' beliefs were childish and greedy. Team Plasma's dedicated members, even the oblivious, stubborn ones, were admirable in how dedicated they were to N and Pokemon.
As you got later into the game, sure you still got the standard "hurr durr I'm a Grunt and I'm going to beat you," but then you'd run into a member who'd comment on how happy the Pokemon in the environment you're in seem, or who'd question your values as a trainer. This added a lot of depth to them and kept each encounter from stagnating.
I got really tired of Team Flare by the end of the game, on the other hand, simply because all the members essentially made the same point/didn't show a very varied personality.
It seemed like tonally, Gamefreak wanted Flare to seem like evil jokes the whole way through. Whereas when you fight the upper members of Plasma, there's no dialogue to suggest that they're funny or hypocritical -- more that they're so passionate about a cause they can't see the errors of their own ways.
>>26656421
Ugly mons.
If you use a revive on a not fainted pokemon you lose the turn and im fucking angry
>>26659048
......?
>>26659048
loose*
>>26656421
It was a little too on rails. Still love it to death though.
>>26656421
Lack of diversity in Pokemon.
When it came to playing B/W2 you have to either reuse mons you used in B/W or use the handful of pre-V shitmons they give to you.
Also the map in B/W2 is a fucking mess.
Also the worst starters out of any gen.
Still my favourite gen and region after 2 and Johto.
>>26659175
? Many people argue BW2 has the best mon distribution.
Starters are shit though.
>>26659175
>hen it came to playing B/W2 you have to either reuse mons you used in B/W or use the handful of pre-V shitmons they give to you.
What about using some of the other 150-odd new ones?
yes. a majority of the pokemon introduced were shit-design rushed.
also boo-hoo pokemon are made to fight. This game should of been called Pokemon Peta. Fuck Team Plasma. also N is a cuck.
>>26659236
That's XY tho.
>>26659236
It didn't. I spent forever trying to find a good water mon that wasn't fucking Psyduck.
As the other anon said, X/Y had by far the best distribution and let you use a lot of rare Pokemon that were only usually found late, or post game in previous gens.
B/W2's range of Pokemon was utter shit.
>>26659240
I'd already used the ones I wanted to use in B/W. I did use a few Unova ones I didn't get a chance to use before but it always felt like my options were really limited.
>>26656421
They exist.
>>26660134
>>26660134
Is this what you mean by bait?
>>26656421
There were plenty of flaws. /vp/ only loves Gen 5 because it's the least popular outside of 4chan and /vp/ loves to be contrarian. It's the same reason they prefer inferior Pokémon like Torterra and Swampert over Sceptile and Greninja for instance.
>>26656421
No True Dragon Form.
>>26657924
3DS is far better than DS when you take account for the tech for their time.
>>26658586
Oh, I think I understand. the thing is, Plasma Grunts were inherently split. Some believed in what they were doing and others knew it was Ghetsis's ruse. It wasnt the same Grunts kicking Munnas who "go dear God what have we done, this isn't what I wanted at all" at the end. There were two seperate factions to begin with, so there isn't really any development. It's just made clear there was a difference in ideals at the end.
I'm not going to say I remember every detail about XY's story ao I may be projexting amaller detaila as sweeping generalizations, but I'm pretty sure the key points (disconnect between what Lysandre wanted and what the Grunts think he was about, and what the Grunts were supposed to represent ) are the case. The Grunts definitely thought they were buying into an elite club, and the disconnect between Lysandre's beauty metaphor and what Flare Grunts talk about (literal beauty) is pretty clear. There is also a split like with Plasma about who knows what's really going on those who don't, but it's more among the upper echelons like the generic Admins and the 5 scientists. Team Plasma only had Grunts to portray the difference so I could see there being a percieved difference as well
this thread skyrocketed in quality
thank you based anons for having a rational debate
>>26660725
Yes. Just imagine Castelia City with 3D on.
Gen 5 is garbage
>>26659500
>Vaporeon
>Azumarill
Both before burg
Also
>not always picking water?
>>26660895
It's not garbage anon - it's just not what people say it is. It's not perfect, it's not the greatest game in NDS, it's not even over-brilliant. It's good, just like most pokémon games.
>>26660930
>It's good, just like most pokémon games.
>tfw this board spends more time trying to bash them all rather than focus on what is good about each of them
>>26659298
>cuck
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cuck
Obviously it was PETA you retard
>>26660943
Welcome to 4chan, you sure are new.
>>26660953
Not new, just Meowth from the first movie
>>26660943
4chan is complaining about everything in the world since 1987, what the hell are you about
>>26660760
Anon, you're trying so hard with this stuff, but GF didn't care.....
The admins don't do anything, you never see Lysandre beside him being "not evil", they didn't complete moveset of people, Trevor and tierno just disappears for most of the game, Battle Chateu is just level up sets. I can go on
>>26656421
>ITT nitpicks people don't normally care about
>>26656457
bw3 when
>>26656543
spotted the underage
>>26656563
>Worst sprite animation
Better than the shit model animation we have now
>>26656421
Easy mode
Shitty graphics
shitty pokemon designs
Shitty PETA tier storyline.
Slowgameplay
>>26666464
BAIT
A lot of B/W mons evolved way late. I can get some mons evolve late, I can buy that. But why does it take level 49 to get some stupid fucking gears fully evolved? 54 for some birds, 50 for Mienshao, 52 for Bisharp, and they still varied from good to kinda crap.
>>26666456
but pixelated.
>>26656650
>kills the flow of a turnbased battle.
Nah, m8 you're just an asshole
>>26656421
N.
N fucking sucked.
BW 2 made team Plasma good but N stayed the same shitty piece of shit he always was.
>>26656421
>most linear games in the series (which is saying something because the games have always been pretty linear)
>hideous sprites in battle
>attempts at 3D outside of battle is pathetic
>some of the worst new pokemon designs in the history of the series and like 75 percent of them were rehashes of older pokemon, which is made worse by the fact that BW literally FORCE you to use only the new pokemon (B2W2 did fix this so credit where credit is due)
>story is overrated, it's good for a pokemon game but completely mediocre by video game standards in general. if you want an RPG with a genuinely great story, play The Witcher 3.
>the challenge mode was a great idea but was executed horribly with the key system, I currently only have White 2 so I can't play either challenge mode or easy mode because I have no one to trade keys with
>finally, and probably worst of all, gen 5 was the beginning of the major casualization of the series that would go on to become even worse in gen 6. rivals showing up in literally every route and city giving you free shit and explaining things and telling you you are awesome so you feel special, random people who heal your whole team everywhere so you don't even need to worry about making it to pokecenters, trainers/gym leaders rarely have more than 3 pokemon, E4 was reduced to 4 pokemon each and you could battle them in any order, etc.
>>26656421
you're the flaw
how many times have we had this shitty thread full of gen 5 gloating jesus
>>26656421
While this generation had the most new pokemon introduced, there are several boring/forgettable designs.
>>26656421
There's one in the box. It says "Nintendo DS".
>>26656421
>sweeping the entire elite 4 with a single common mon
>>26669286
>>26666464
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine, get a bigger load of it
Doesn't have sixth gens breeding mechanics.
>>26669527
I don't know what those are in your picture and I don't see how it's relevant to what I said. We are comparing Pokemon to Pokemon, not Pokemon to other games.
>>26669527
>comparing unrelated franchises
Face it fuckwad. Gen 5 was shit and always will be shit
>>26669413
>he thinks the 3DS is better
You are why Nintendo is in the state it's in.
>>26669713
I'm pretty sure I'm not the SINGLE Nintendo is in this state. If I am, you are aswell.
>>26656421
Dream World.
Shitty Hidden Ability distrobution.
>>26656421
Flaw - Having only 649 Pokémon.
