Linearity aside, Unova is a top tier region.
>>26633490
It made crossing a bridge feel cool, I have to give it that. That fwooosh sound as the camera changes as you cross the big one.
>>26633490
Honestly I can't wait for the remakes in a few years. I want to explore Unova with full 3d models.
Agreed, I love it.
>>26633490
Linearity, blandness and specific pokemon aside, it's indeed okay
>>26633668
>blandness and specific pokemon
We're talking about Unova, not Sinnoh.
>>26633668
Elaborate on why it was bland.
And the genwars begin!
>>26633717
Based on America
>>26633490
I liked all the locations and it had a great selection of mons in BW. It may be linear, but not much more so than most gens. It was just more explicit about it.
>>26633584
>remakes
>Not Unova sequels
>>26633746
How does that make it bland?
>>26633746
America's incredibly diverse. Spans from tropical to temperate climes, with large coastlines on both the Pacific and Atlantic.
In other words, scientifically not bland.
>>26633490
>it's another 30 minutes wasted to cross a bridge episode
Cancer.
>>26633846
Literally what
>>26633846
>30 minutes
Did you think that the feathers were finite and attempt to collect them all and after 30 minutes realize it's never going to end and stop?
>>26633766
That would even be better. Wouldn't it be considered a trilogy at that point though?
>>26634140
ffs I left my tripcode on. Sorry about that.
>>26633490
well it's based off my favourite city in the states, New York City.
Canadafag here.
>>26633490
It does have some interesting cities. I enjoyed Castelia, Nimbasa, Nacrene (conceptually), Mistralton, Undella. It also has top tier music, and some of the most stuff to do in a Pokemon game to date. Definitely in the top 2 regions in the series.
I liked this region, it was the beginning of feeling like the Pokémon World was becoming more "complete" and was the first region where I became aware that each Gen's setting was based on a real part of the world.
Seeing the photos that were going around here of all the places in NYC that they visited to take photos of that appeared in the Gen V games and anime (even if I didn't watch the latter after the Team Plasma special fuckup) was really fun.
>>26634213
>Nacrene (conceptually)
why that disclaimer for Nacrene? did you like the idea more than the exacution?
i kinda thought it was a little too "old fashioned" for what was supposed to be themed around New York but its just a fucking game so whatever.
>>26633490
>mfw the last non linear region was Johto
The "defeat gym leaders in any order" is a meme, though.
>>26633490
>central park area is blocked off post gen 5 because of wifi shutdown
>>26634471
What?
The Entralink could be accessed without Wifi.
Hell it was a predominantly local wireless area in Black and White 1 and the minigames in Black and White 2 could be done solo.
>>26634453
The whole point of the Pokémon games is a journey to the Pokémon League, and because of the way managed to make collecting badges and trying to become Champion an actual plot point the main character is motivated to do, and not just something to do "just because", it made traveling through Unova from town to town seem very worthwhile for me.
If they want a non-linear game, I think the world aught to be more intimate with more things to do within it.
>>26634435
Nacrene was supposed to be a city where they repurposed abandoned warehouses and shit for houses and shops, and artsy people flocked to it. It's supposed to be vaguely inspired by SoHo, I think. It's just that the execution didn't feel quite right to me. I love the idea though.
>>26633490
>random desert between a dense forest and Manhattan
No. The rest of the region is fine but that stops it from being the best. The cold storage area was pretty clever though.
>>26634517
>>random desert between a dense forest and Manhattan
That literally applies to every Pokemon game.
Especially Sinnoh.
Unova 2? Yes.
Unova 1? Fuck no.
>>26634418
Can you point me to some of those pictures, anon?
Urban planner living in NYC, I would be really interested to see a Japanese company's perspective on the area.
>>26634509
More Williamsburg than SoHo, I'd think, considering that it is geographically in Poke-Brooklyn
>>26634562
Where is Sinnoh's disjointed desert area?
>>26634435
>>26634509
It's inspired by the "DUMBO" (yes, that's it's name, it's an acronym) neighborhood of Brooklyn. And as someone who lives near that area, I can tell you that it's surprisingly well done. The unused train tracks, the converted warehouses, the art community... they did their homework.
There's a picture I've seen of a scene from the anime of Nacrene compared to an actual picture of DUMBO, and it's really close.
>>26634645
The entire island should be a winter wonderland being that far north and surrounded by ice. It makes no sense at all.
>>26634665
>battle resort is farthest north
>palm trees
>implying pokemon weather works the same as real world weather
>this much autism
>>26634665
it was meant to be an island resort, clearly
heatran made things hotter I bet
>>26634645
Sinnoh and Hoenn both have deserts but Hoenn's is surrounded by mountains and might have fallout from Mt. Chimney, so it makes sense that it would be arid and infertile there. Sinnoh's is north of the Resort Area iirc but it's more of a savannah in DP at least. They changed the tiles in platinum
>>26634665
Desert really only applies to moisture. A tundra can be a desert because it's arid as fuck and doesn't get any rainfall, because any precipitation (if any) would be snowfall. I think they changed the tiles from the traditional sand ones in DP for this reason but obviously didn't want pokemon like sandshrew and hippowdon to be found in the fucking ice caps
at any rate, sinnoh' desert being poorly place doesn't magically absolve unova's of having a worse placement.
>>26634705
Most of Platinum's area changes were nice but some were really awful like the desert, Lost Tower ditching its fairly unique design for generic spooky, and the marshes going for practicality over aesthetic with making the deepest parts you get stuck in stand out even though moving closer to the center should logically be bringing you into deeper areas
I never understood why they were only just beginning to build a road between the financial center of the region Castelia with the entertainment center Nimbasa when they are so close to each other.
>>26634705
>doesn't magically absolve unova's of having a worse placement.
Ignoring the fact that America contains several deserts, in fact it's one of the few regions where that particular type of desert actually makes sense.
Also it's clearly an analog to the Nevada desert seeing as Nimbasa is partly Vegas.
Also saying that Unova has a worse placement than Sinnoh is horribly wrong.
>>26634770
maybe they were afraid to cross the desert until the technology was available to safely build without a sigilyph attacking them to defend the ruins
>>26634787
>seeing as Nimbasa is partly Vegas
That's not even close to correct. Nimbasa is entirely Times Square/Midtown Manhattan.
>>26634770
it sort of gets fixed in B2W2 when they bother to pave the road but they should've at least made it a savannah instead of a desert in the first place
>>26634787
Unova isn't America, it's New York. How you could expect Nimbasa to take more cues from a city on the other side of the country than say, Coney fucking Island, is laughable
>>26634705
>Sinnoh and Hoenn both have deserts but Hoenn's is surrounded by mountains and might have fallout from Mt. Chimney, so it makes sense that it would be arid and infertile there.
That's wrong you know, if anything those areas should be lush and full of life.
Unova's desert is clearly a result of the ancient civilization's fuckup rather than a naturally occurring thing.
>>26634770
americans are fat and lazy
case in point: clay making you catch plasma who aren't even doing anything at the moment as an excuse to not have to gym battle you in BW1
>>26634787
>Nimbasa is based on a city known for its casinos even though it was introduced in a gen that explicitly removed all gambling references
>>26634817
>Nimbasa is entirely Times Square/Midtown Manhattan.
It's a combination of the two you idiot. You are aware that Unova takes multiple parts of America right?
And that still doesn't change the fact that America has several deserts.
>>26634864
it just has the one but it's really big
>>26634864
It's pretty decidedly NY and a bit of NJ in BW2
>>26634864
>You are aware that Unova takes multiple parts of America right?
You are aware that, um, it doesn't? It's entirely based on NYC and immediate surroundings, with some artistic liberties (e.g. the desert) taken for gameplay purposes.
>>26634517
I've always interpreted the desert as a subtle reference to Ground Zero. There's even a buried tower there which was previously the residence of one of the twin heroes of Unova, implying that the desert's presence in the region isn't natural and that it could have been the result of Zekrom and Reshiram's previous battle since it was said that they caused a great catastrophe.
>>26634770
>>26634803
>>26634821
You guys do know that there's a road there already right? You even walk under it and see cars going overhead.
>>26633490
All of it's extremely numerous flaws aside, Gen 5 was pretty okay
>>26634864
And America having several deserts doesn't change that the Unovan one was poorly placed
>>26634864
the fact that unova and the american southwest have deserts isn't really an argument that nimbasa is based on vegas
there's that one city that skyla has to fly you to whose name escapes me. you could make an argument for that being inspired by the southwest but that isn't what you were doing
I dont get why people use the Linearity as a bad thing, i liked it, it meant you ran into very few artificial roadblocks like in most regions.
>>26634894
I get the argument, but I've never thought of it as a Ground Zero reference. That's way too controversial and sensitive, and Gamefreak isn't stupid enough to go there. I think it's just a desert, put where it was just for gameplay purposes.
best roadblock in the series
>>26634913
>>26634910
Not him but
>america having these things doesn't change the fact that the region based on america has these things
What kind of backwards logic is this?
Also geographically it actually fits seeing as the previous two deserts were in areas that should have been fertilized and surrounded by forest because of their close proximity to the volcano.
>whining about the desert's placement in Unova
The game actually implies that it's unnatural so it's not like there wasn't any thought put into it. It's also nowhere NEARLY as bad as the desert in fucking Kalos.
>>26634894
Oh hey, that's actually pretty cool. But then why does it end so abruptly? Also, where does it say that the ruins had to do with one of the two heroes?
>>26634951
because saying unova is based on the entirety of america is like saying sinnoh is based on the entirety of japan, which is obviously false if you have ever seen a map, globe, played a pokemon game or weren't retarded
>>26634958
Kalos has no desert. They're badlands. There's a difference.
The whole region has a big issue with sudden shifts though. The whole place period has this weird-ass compass direction seasons thing.
>>26633490
so many butthurt unovans today
>>26634942
By best you mean laziest, right?
>>26634995
By laziest you mean funniest and most self-aware, right?
If they have to have an arbitrary roadblock, I'm okay with them making a joke out of it every so often.
>>26633490
It had the best post game I'd enjoyed in a while. The Black City was awesome, the championship, hell even Join Avenue was cool.
Also the hidden grottos were cool, and that castle where you could find Volcarona was neat, the resort with the shiny haxorus, the bridges were pretty.
I think Black 2 was my most played game yet.
>>26634942
mein neger
>there are people posting on /vp/ right now who use this as an example of game freak's laziness because they're too autistic to recognize a joke
>>26635033
none of those are true and your most played game is etrian odyssey1 you lying fucker
>>26634969
>because saying unova is based on the entirety of america is like saying sinnoh is based on the entirety of japan,
No one is saying it's based on the entirety of the area you retard, just that it's drawing on elements from the area and basing it on a single part just like every single pokemon game to date in more ways than one. Hell it isn't even limited to the areas as a whole because even Unova had elements from Japan like the Genies and Landorus' shrine.
Stop thinking that just because the region is designed after a single portion of a land/continent/whatever everything within it is from that specific area.
>>26635055
>>26634987
>There's a difference
Actually, badlands are considered a type of sub-desert.
The placement is still fucking awful though. If you look at it on the map artwork it's literally a perfect circle.
>>26634995
The laziest would have been the Psyducks
>>26635055
>not Etrian Odyssey III
>>26634930
That's why I called it a "subtle" reference. Game Freak spent a shitload of time touring the entire city and got many of the areas down to a tee, I somehow doubt they didn't derive at least a little inspiration from GZ. I think they just didn't make it as obvious because they wanted to avoid stepping on any toes.
>>26635083
Kalos badlands is so empty and locked away.
What's in the power plant, /vp/?
>>26635089
Or the Snorlax. Roadblocks have always been lazy. Nothing wrong with BW2 joking about it a bit.
>>26635131
a kickass theme
>>26634930
People thought Kyurem was supposed to be one of the planes and Great Chasm GZ, they don't even need to try to get people to think something was a GZ reference.
>>26635131
I dunno, what's under the truck, anon?
>>26635155
The Great Chasm is nowhere near where GZ would be so those people are retards.
I can see the desert resort being loosely inspired by it though.
>>26635123
I don't think it's impossible, and as you say there is evidence for it, but I still don't buy it. Ground Zero wasn't a desert, it was a construction site. And now it's neither. And anyway, the location is off. The WTC was near the very bottom tip of Manhattan, where Castelia City is. If it's a reference to anything at all from NYC, it's probably just the fact that the east side of Midtown Manhattan is just kind of quiet and industrial.
The Ground Zero theory isn't crazy, but I just don't think it's correct.
>>26635230
>east side
Meant west side.
>>26635230
>Ground Zero wasn't a desert, it was a construction site
Well, see, that's exactly why I think there's evidence for it. Route 4 is literally a construction site in both BW and BW2. There's the ruins of a lost tower buried underneath the sand in the Desert Resort.
And actually, GZ is not on the VERY bottom tip of Manhattan's map but I can agree it's fairly close to it. I do think its placement is close enough to the desert area that it could reasonably pass for it though.
But really who knows? I acknowledge that it's not exactly confirmed but I still find it pretty likely.
>>26635334
There are good arguments in both directions. What really sways it for me is that it would just be kind of crazy to take the risk of offending people by including an overt reference to Ground Zero. I'm not saying it's impossible - the series has had insensitive references before - but it just seems like a really bad idea that I think they'd be smart enough to avoid. Ultimately I think it was a coincidence, and any connections we're drawing now were unintended. But as I said, there are good points on both sides.
>>26634655
Does anyone have such a photo handy?
>>26634913
Yeah, Skyla's city is iterally Teterboro New Jersey with its airport, its probably the most direct reference to a map of the NYC area aside from the place with the warehouses mentioned above, and Castelia being lower Manhattan.
>>26635393
You could make a better argument that the desert north of Slateport in Hoenn is a Fat Man reference, as Slateport is literally the equivalent to Nagasaki.
>>26633490
Aside from the fact it was fucking terrible, Unova was a pretty cool guy
>>26633490
I mean aside from the fact that literally every other region was better, yeah it's alright I guess.
>>26635474
Also Nimbasa as Times Square and Virbank as Bayonne.
>>26633490
If you disregard the fact it was absolutly awful, Unova was indeed not that bad
>>26633668
>>26634908
>>26635560
Spotted the bootyblasted Sinnohfetuses.
How does it feel knowing that your region will never ever ever be as good as based Unova?
>>26635644
*everyone who isn't a Unovabortion
>>26635615
I love how they did all the ports and industrial facilities on the lower west side of the map like that complete with the farms further in more accurate than even a lot of people who live in the area would even take note of.
>>26635089
>>26635136
Neither of those are as lazy as that one, they are actually rather well incorporated. Getting the Pokeflute and Secret Potion is actually part of the games. It's not like those just conveniently disappear once you have done something entirely unrelated in the games.
Now blackouts, those are lazy.
>>26635674
Yeah, as a whole they did a really great job with the geographic detail. It's clear how much they noticed.
I think my overall favorite little local detail might be the guy on Skyarrow Bridge in BW2 trying to sell you water for an inflated price. It just strikes me as the kind of thing that they must have remembered as they toured the city.
>>26634655
>>26635433
>>26635761
>>26635771
>>26635560
>>26635592
>>26635625
oh man I miss the old days when you sinnohfetus shits were too young to infest the board with your awful taste
>>26633490
Does anyone else remember when people thought Isshu was going to be Shanghai or Singapore?
>>26635795
>Unova came after Sinnoh
>this means Sinnohfetuses are the young ones
?
>>26635761
>>26635771
>>26635787
If they go this far in researching Hawaii for Gen VII, we're gonna have a great time this november.
>>26635592
>Kanto, Sinnoh and Kalos
>better than Unova
I mean aside from the fact that you're literally a faggot with pleb tier sensibilities, you're alright I guess.
>>26635812
Yeah, that was absurd, it was obvious from the initial reveal that it was NYC. I'm still convinced that the Gen VI Blackpool and Gen VII Mexico people didn't actually believe that and were just trying to recreate the Shanghai nonsense.
>>26635843
Kalos wasn't, but Unova is the second-worst region
>>26635831
It means that the only people who could possibly remotely like a garbage region like Sinnoh probably grew up with it.
>>26635812
Yeah, they deliberately zoomed in on the map of New York to make it seem like it was landlocked to the east.
Meanwhile, they had to turn the map of Shanghai 90 degrees just to make it "fit" with the map of Isshu.
>>26635864
>opinions
I could say the same thing about Unova
>>26633490
Unova as I remember it is full of bland greys, browns, and purples and even the greener colour never looked at vibrant and exciting to me as previous Gens did.
It also has my least favorite overall Pokemon designs of all gens.
I think the region is kinda shite.
>>26635870
>Don't make their mistake and ignore obvious common sense evidence about the basis for the newest Pokemon region
Glad to see everyone has learned that lesson since then, so we didn't have to have months of stupid threads claiming that SM wasn't Hawaii. Oh wait, we did.
desu I dont get the hype around Unova
It was nice but just really mediocre, obviously because how linear it was but it also felt like it was just missing the exploration aspect previous gens had.
>>26633490
>if you ignore one of a regions' most enormous flaws, it is top tier
come on
>>26635795
You've been really trying to force the Sinnohfetus meme the past few weeks, haven't you?
>>26635924
Good summary of my thoughts as well
>>26634700
And so did Volcarona :^)
>>26635930
Fuck the anti-hawaii fags, we're still arguing over whether or not it's the 7th generation of the games.
>>26635981
>missing the exploration
When were the games ever truly free roaming? They were all extremely linear in my eyes aside from some forced, fairly unrewarding backtracking in certain less well designed parts of Sinnoh and Hoenn that Unova lacked.
You basically have to play through the scenario in the same order in other games, the fact that I'm going from point A to point Z when none of the places in between are things I've ever seen before, I don't find there to be less of an exploration aspect.
I know what you're getting at, but to really pull it off it would be a fundamentally different concept than what mainline Pokémon games have been to this point.
>>26633746
How is America bland? I'm not getting pissed off or anything, I am just genuinely curious how someone could think America is bland.
>>26636079
anybody who thinks this is not gen 7 can kill themselves, holy fuck
>>26635981
>but it also felt like it was just missing the exploration aspect previous gens had
The only people who say this are the ones who didn't actually bother exploring all the side paths and hidden nooks and crannies in Unova.
a.k.a retards.
>>26636171
America is nothing but trailer parks full of kkklansmen, inner city urban refuse, oklahoma, and Disneyworld.
>>26635843
Kanto is the first region so it's excused
Sinnoh was much much better than Unova
Kalos was slightly better than Unova
>>26633490
liked it a lot more than I should for an amerifat region, have high hopes for alola,and waiting for the latam region
>>26635924
Pretty much this
>>26636207
No it's just people who wanted "forced" exploration" imo. People think 2 half assed routes are better than 1 good route
>>26636233
Don't get your hopes up. Alola looks like a cartoony, unimmersive region.
>>26635981
>desu I dont get the hype around Unova
Overnationalistic amerifats are legion on this board
Don't try to find any other reason
>>26636212
Faggot
>>26636231
>Sinnoh
>Caves and HMs: The Region
>worst dex in the series
>most forgettable towns ever
>better than anything
kys
>>26636231
Nice meme. Care to explain any of your points or what the good games are?
>>26635924
Greens were much better than HGSS's blue "greens"
>>26636269
According to what? One distorted map that was made to show off landmarks?
>>26636022
Not him, but it's not a meme. Kids who grew up with Gen 4 as their first gen recently infested the board.
Hate for Hoenn and Unova is at an all time high.
>>26636305
Are you joking?
Unoshit is praised like nowhere else on this board because of all the kids who had it as first game
>>26636268
Like as in everyone getting kissed when you auto move in ORAS to places you've already been in, you get to go to place originally blocked off, but really it's just you surfing there. With no new trainers outside of maybe fishers.
In Unova they lead you along because there is progression and backtracking is bullshit and they didn't want to make people do it like in almost every game in Pokemon
>>26636296
I think Johto pulls off the toned down but still vibrant thing really well.
>>26636315
Nah man, fuck HGSS's "greens", nothing like GSC's perfect greens, the worst betrayal Game Freak ever did, even worse than ORAS having no Frontier
Not that I mean to necessarily praise BW's color palette
>>26636022
Honestly, he's absolutely right. Back in 2010-2012 most people on /vp/ were able to acknowledge how bad Sinnoh was as a region and how fucking terrible DP was to boot.
Most of the people who would have grown up with Gen IV are now 18+. Let that sink in.
>>26636333
Or maybe people just genuinely liked it?
>>26636305
I've been here for years and there hasn't been any such major discernible change. It's a meme.
>>26636297
Not quite. Those maps aren't distorted at all. If you look at Unova, Kalos and Hoenn maps, you'll see they're not really distorted. Also, compare the first island's 3D model to the actual map.
Alola seems like a mild version of Kalos' amazing route choices. One route goes from a desert canyon to a huge city, with no sign of any big city nearby the route (like Unova's desert). Turn around the corner and you went from a huge urban city to a perfectly calm and clean swamp
The ice mountain with an easy elevator from a volcanic area, the dry canyon near a huge living tree, etc. seem like bad choices.
>>26636278
Don't be mad just because your are a marxist/leninist and hate Freedom.
>>26636269
said I have high hopes thanks to the last trailer
>cartoony
so like every other region? oh sorry they are anime stylesame shit
>>26636368
If that was the case, it wouldnt be so specific of this board
If you look at the larger fanbase, you can see Gen 5 is considered meh while Gen 6 was loved, but on this board it feels like the contrary because Unovabortions constantly spam Gen 5 praise and Gen 6 hate
>>26636333
Kantokid here, I think Unova is the second-best region and Gen V is the absolute best gen.
Eat a dick.
>>26636368
No anon, anyone who likes game I don't like or dislikes game I like has to be a newfag underage shitter or memer and are objectively incorrect.
Why are Europoors so triggered by America in Pokemon?
Unova and all previous Gens were good, then Yurotrash gave us the mistake that was Kalos, which is just as boring as real France.
Hopefully GF never use Europe again.
>>26636333
>>26636333
Anon. If you look at surveys, we do here First/favorite/least favorite Unova seems to be pretty strong with gen 1/2. I think one day I was on a sick day and made a graph of the stuff
>>26636334
*getting pissed
>>26636385
>The ice mountain with an easy elevator from a volcanic area
>Mauna Kea Observatories
>Mauna Kea
>>26636414
You being a nationalistic amerifat blinds your judgement though
>>26636403
That BW2 is edited btw
Also do you think DP is actually better than platinum?
>>26636442
You being muslim blinds your judgement.
>>26636434
Yeah, Unovakids sure will admit they started with Gen 5 and not lie....
>>26636403
Nice bait.
>>26636333
A massive poll on /vp/ (made with google docs, which is un-spammable iirc) showed that the majority of people considered BW2 the best game. It's not just kids, especially because those kids aren't even old enough to post in here, or even find this place, for that matter.
>>26636373
I've been here for... uh 3 years now, and I noticed a (kinda) significant change. Probably becauseit's my favorite regions who get attacked for no apparent reason by the Sinnohfetuses and Johtoddlers.
>>26636418
I'm neither American nor European, but Kalos was waaaaay less bland than Unova, and most of the Japanese opnions I've seen go in that way
Don't get fooled by this american's board opinion and confuse it with the whole fanbase's
I dont know if real life France and America are bland (I never visited any), but Unova sure was bland as shit while Kalos wasnt
>>26636403
>getting so desperate that you actually edited the numbers for both BW and BW2
im laffin
>>26636442(you)
>>26636446
Just black and white* they're tied with X and Y, then HGSS are too
http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/pokemon-x
http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/pokemon-soulsilver-version
http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/pokemon-black-version
>>26636403
Fuck off with that pic you fucking retard, Black is wrong and you know it, quit spreading wrong info, it's what is ruining this board.
>>26636458
Could you, like, maybe stop shitposting? This has been a nice, respectful thread so far with decent discussion on both sides. If you don't like Unova, cool, but your "anyone who likes Unova is a child of lying" thing is sort of obnoxious.
>>26636269
>Pokémon
>complaints about "cartoony" anything
Oh lord.
Just LOOKING at the map you can tell it's going to have a similar amount of exploreable landmass to Kalos, the artwork of Alola is just zoomed out to establish the distance between the islands in the ocean.
What would you rather have, small towns connected by narrow north-south or east-west corridors lined with trainers that actually BYPASS most of the "land" seen in the promotional artwork of each region, leaving a huge percentage of what's seen on the map completely inaccessible; or larger, more fleshed out locations that blend contiguously into each other more like how real life places are structured?
>>26636482
>those kids aren't even old enough to post in here
>>26636458
Well I didnt you faggot you're probably a Hoenn faggot aren't you
>>26636482
>on /vp/
That's your problem
Too many nationalistic amerifats on here
Try to look at the japanese fanbase opinion, they despise gen 5
>>26636403
>>26636472
>critical reviews of games
>mattering at all
Games journalists play games differently from other people. They rush through games to get a review out, or just play through the first few hours and base their opinion on that. Besides that, they play many more games than the average person, which skews their opinions because they get bored of most tropes.
You should be looking at user scores if you're looking at anything at all, but those are also worthless when comparing Pokemon games because most people like all of them.
>>26636373
Not even that guy, but I've been here since 2010 and there is absolutely a discernible change. Nobody fucking praised Gen 4 this much or shat on Gen 5 and the ones who did were usually laughed right off the board.
Fucking Sinnohfetuses need to leave. Nobody with a brain likes their games, their dex, or their region.
>>26636532
>Try to look at the japanese fanbase opinion, they despise gen 5
Assuming this is true (which I'm skeptical of), what makes their opinion more valid?
>>26636517
Just stop baiting people anon. I don know what fucking satisfaction you get from it
>inb4 you go go away newfag/underage fag I've been on 4chan since we spammed /v/ to death that we had to create this board
>>26636548
You do realize that the image they're replying to supposedly contains the CRITIC reviews, right? You do realize that said image is altered, right?
Also
>he takes user scores on fucking Metacritic of all places seriously
>>26636578
>mfw people try posting Neofag polls
>>26636578
I literally said that I don't. Did you read the post?
>>26636532
> nationalistic amerifats
This buzzword is tired as fuck.
The vast majority of Americans live nowhere near the very tiny part of the country Unova was based on, and in the south where the actual nationalists are, they hate and despite New York and start celebrating whenever there's a major hurricane or other disaster that hits the area.
Unova was pure dogshit
I blame it on the country it was based off
>>26636570
>it is somehow impossible for people to post here without being of age
>kids aren't bright enough to lie about their age here
>>26636588
Clearly you didn't read his
>>26636597
Europoor detected.
Enjoy playing Sun/Moon five days after we get to play it you cuck.
>>26636608
>People like newer game
>People must have had that as their first game
Well this thread went to shit. It was nice while it lasted. Thanks, shitposters.
>>26636597
Same thing with Kalos
Why are all non-Japanese regions shit? Is it because nips have no concept of national character outside themselves?
>>26636597
How did a single city in America feel bigger than all of France?
>>26636652
I actually think that whole narrative is bullshit.
I'm just saying, it's not impossible at all for there to be underage posters. To think so is delusional.
>>26635924
This. I think literally every town before the postgame is mostly paved with a dull grey. The smaller towns only have a couple of houses with nothing in them. It's a boring region.
The new towns added in BW2 are top notch and I always lose interest when you set sail to the mainland and have to endure what was introduced in BW again (but they did try to revamp them).
>>26636638
>implying we europoors won't just download the .cia as soon as it is uploaded
>>26636668
Hopeful after Gen 8 we can go back to Japan
>>26636668
Anon DP RS were shit too anon
>>26633584
>liking full 3d
fuck you
>>26636670
Unova didnt feel big though
And it was all of America concentrated
Ever wondered why there was Las Vegas, a desert, mountains...etc?
>>26635644
as an unovabortion your opinion literally means nothing
Gen war threads are laughable, people thinking they're superior because of their preferences on a children's game, and apparently It's impossible for someone to like what you dont like, if they do they're either underage and/or retarded. You people are pathetic.
>>26636701
Less shit than Unovanus and Kaloshit
But shit nonetheless
>>26636719
>Las Vegas
Wrong.
We've already had this discussion, try reading the entire thread first.
>>26636675
I know, but you are just invalidating polls and surveys because they are underage
I'm not that guy you first responded too, but I guess you could count that, it wouldn't they have their first game as Gen 5 in those surveys
>>26636731
>Kalso and Unova being equal
In what world? GF has openly admitted it was their passion project and made BW2 because how much they loved the characters
>>26636730
Fuck off yuropoor
UNOVA UNOVA UNOVA
>>26636771
He didn't even say anything anti-Unova you knuckle fucking nincompoop.
>>26636768
>they liked working on it
>so it was good
>>26636768
Are you autistic?
They made BW2 to compensate for the fact there were no remakes (because they didnt want to make the remakes with the godawful Gen 5 graphisms)
>>26636788
>coming from the same generation with remakes they openly admitted to rushing
>>26636786
Ignore him, he's falseflagging.
Ho boy did this thread go down the shitter quickly.
>>26636786
Will you shut the fuck up?
I bet you're either a yuropoor or a bernie cuck
>>26635644
>being a unovabortion
you might as well be underage
>>26636789
>calls someone autistic
>proceeds to make shit up out of thin air as though it were factual
Why wont unovafags just die?
>>26636804
Unova is my favorite region you gay lord.
>>26636212
that is one epic opinion
>>26636837
>says gen wars are pathetic
>shit taste confirmed
>>26636829
Don't worry, we will die pretty soon with all that cancer you Sinnohfetuses gave us.
>>26636837
How, so you must be American
Don't forget to vote TRump to make Unova great again, fellow country man
Another quality thread started by unova fans...
>>26636789
If they wanted to do a good job with remakes, why did they openly admit to rushing it and because they felt pressured too?
>>26636742
I don't give a shit who likes what. I'm just saying, it's not impossible at all for there to be underage posters. To think so is delusional.
>>26636869
Don't you have a pet refugee to hose down? Better keep him on a leash before he humps one of your daughters on the metro.
>>26636869
Fuck your mother with the LA Raiders.
>>26635924
this pretty much
although XY had less than 100, the pokemon were a lot more interesting
>>26636884
Ok. I think I see what you mean, I finnally re-read what he said, and that they couldn't vote is a bit retarded. But they same still goes for SinnohFetuses (don't get me wrong I really love Platinum, but DP are the worst games)
>>26636880
The thread was a great discussion about the pros and cons of the region, even discussing the real life locations the towns were based on, then genwar faggots came in and made it into an indescribable shitshow.
>>26636861
Kek
>>26636927
I'm convinced that it's just one or two samefags shitposting over and over again because anything Unova-related triggers them.
>>26636700
>gen 8 will be another cold region
we can only hope
>>26636957
I honestly think some upset unova fan just false flag shitposts about his favorite games when someone has a different opinion.
>>26636869
enjoy your refugee ploblem
>>26637012
Enjoy your ludicolo invasion, unofag
>>26636927
>even discussing the real life locations the towns were based on
can we get back to that, please?
>>26637036
But anon!Trumps's building a wall
>>26637073
Yeah, he's also gonna fix air pollution by having jets spray soap and water in the air to clean it.
>>26637073
GO BACK TO /POL/ ALREADY, FUCKING CANCER
>>26637094
Yee he's making America great again
>>26637094
Clean air won't matter when the air you breathe is filled with gunfire, smoke, and cries of "Allah Akbar!"
>>26637113
>not understanding a joke
Literally Kys
>>26637239
Illegal immigration isn't a joke, though.
>>26637239
>kys poster
if anyone should kill themselves it's you
>>26636305
>>26636359
what's bad about sinnoh
>>26637345
The only bad thing about Sinnoh is the original DP. The region is great in my opinion, pretty diverse while but cohesive at the same time, but the games were lackluster. Platinum fucking fixed the shit that was wrong with the first pair of games, and added more on top of that.
>>26637441
While being* cohesive. Fuck posting from a phone.
>>26635924
i love sinnoh but its towns were so much more generic than unova's.
>>26637345
Terribly slow progression, caves everywhere, a lot of the navigation is reliant on HMs, there's a giant cockblock mountain going right down the middle of the map that blocks off every quarter of the region making the overworld feel largely hub-based, most of the towns and cities are completely bland and don't have a modicum of personality, an overwhelmingly garbage selection of new Pokemon to boot.
There's just nothing very memorable about Sinnoh aside from the snowy parts which honestly weren't as prevalent as Gen IV fans make them out to be, and Platinum only fixed very very few of Sinnoh's inherent problems.
>>26636909
X/Y had like 30 good Pokemon, design wise, and like 10 that looked good and were at least above NU tier
Unova's Pokemon weren't really that bad, but there were too many Pokemon shoved into the late game instead of adding some variety earlier. Would've loved to find wild Larvesta and Rufflets earlier, or have the ability to fish much earlier.
>>26636284
I'd rather be able to explore off the beaten path with a few necessary HMs rather than get railroaded to the end.
Pokemon Stadium, followed by Pokemon Blue, were my first Pokemon games.
Unova (B2W2) > Hoenn > Sinnoh > Kanto > Johto > Unova (BW) > dogshit > Kalos
Gen 6 killed all interest I had in playing actual Pokemon games.
>>26637559
The slow progression and large expanses of unnecessary explorable space are what I loved about it. It felt like I was exploring an actual place rather than being on a singular linear road like Unova basically was.
>>26637674
>with a few necessary HMs
>few
Except that in Sinnoh you needed literally every HM to progress.
>>26637593
the fact that BW1 basically has only a couple decent options for the entire first 65-70% of the main game is absolutely insulting.
I can't go back to it because of how samey every run largely becomes as a result. Thank god for BW2.
>>26637714
I think Unova had just as much, if not even more explorable places. I feel like people who complain about linearity are the ones that should replay Unova and actually go and explore all the extra places instead of just sticking to the main road.
>>26637725
You don't need defog. I never used it in any of my runs including the first run through Diamond.
>>26637680
You have nice taste anon.
>>26637741
I know, right? B/W had some really good Pokemon in it, but a lot of them came in/evolved insultingly late. There are a couple of good early/midgame options, but nothing that compares to Bisharp, Haxorus, Mienshao, or Hydreigon.
>>26637753
>you don't need 1 out of 8
Gee what a joy.
>>26637766
Fucking Mienshao man. Despite getting it having one gym left I used that fucker. Now that I realize it Unova had some of my all time faves, but I never really got to use them on my playthroughs.
>>26637714
>large expanses of unnecessary explorable space
Most of the only areas that really had those were all the cave labyrinths in Sinnoh, and nobody fucking likes caves.
Unova's routes were actually far more intricate because they contained a lot more secrets and hidden crannies.
>>26637790
It's such a shame. Unova could've been top tier in B/W if they had laid out the game a bit better and spread some of the Pokemon around. Level 40-50 one-stage evolutions are retarded.
Not to mention everything else in Unova has some pretty good stats, but a movepool as shallow as a California college girl, which is disappointing coming off of Platinum and HG/SS where it was the exact opposite.
>>26637766
I don't know, some of my favorites were available pretty early. Sandile, Scraggy, Sewaddle, Cottonee, and a few others were all available within the first couple gyms.
