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>Lazy Freak
>>26602809
What am I supposed to be looking at here?
>>26602809
Nice meme fag. I hope you can explain why the used the same backgrounds and sprites in gen 4 for gen 5.
Sadly gamefreak didn't change one of the worst things about gen 6. Sprites had a lot of problems but some of these models look absolutely fucking terrible.
>>26602829
OP is trying to show that XYORAS models are the same as SM
Which was completely obvious to anyone who saw the footage in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if these models made it to gen 8. Like others have said, its not the models themselves that are bland, it's the (lack of) personality to them. They need more interesting animations and a lot of flying types need to stop levitating awkwardly
>Lazy
>When the models have been touched up to have better shading
>>26602864
Salamence should be on the ground. Charizard as well.
The absolute worst is Charizard X. It clearly shows why models are a mistake.
>>26602875
Wow, bet they worked themselves into a coma over that.
>>26602845
fucking GOT him
>>26602875
>>26602875
Good catch, anon.
>>26602809
We knew from datamining XY that these models would be here to stay for years to come, retard. Thats why theyre called "Futureproof'd".
They wont be updated again until at least the first NX release, and even then they'll probably keep them being that the polygon counts push the limits of what the 3ds can physically handle, so they'll be far better suited on a more advanced console.
>>26602809
>Didn't have to waste their time making 700 new models
>Still couldn't find the time to remove those godawful gliding animations.
>>26602876
>Salamence should be on the ground
Then what would justify them being immune to ground moves?
>>26602809
Can someone tell me why this inherently means the end of the world?
I mean yeah sure the models could use some touching up but doesn't this mean that Gamefreak can work on actually adding new Pokemon/features instead of wasting time tweaking 721+ textures to please a small group of autistic people?
>>26602977
Because in every gen prior to this we recieved new sprites/models. It shows that GF is getting lazy and putting less work in as the years go by.
I really REALLY hate that scribble effect behind the HP bars.
It obscures too much of the screen. There's no reason for it to exist.
>>26602977
We're stuck with this for another gen.
>>26602934
This
>>26602809
>wanting gamefreak to waste half of the development time on just models AGAIN
wew
>inb4 gf apologist meme
>change the for the sake of change is good
Stop
>>26602997
>What is gen 5
Game freak only ever make new models and sprites when they NEED to. This is the first gen using the exact same battle engine as the previous, presumably so they don't have to make 721+ different models all over again, which was an obvious strain on X/Y's development.
>>26602809
They look better now?
I think?
>>26603018
I've never used this thing nor do I ever see it in battles or in the wild , so why should I care?
>>26603002
Holy shit anon, what are you a furry?
GAME FOOTAGE IS NOT FINAL
Learn how to read.
>>26602809
Wow a lazy cashgrab runs on reused assets, who'd have guessed?
It looks smoother to me.
But eh. I don't see it as much of an issue.
>>26602970
The Salamence sprite was always touching the ground. So was the Charizard sprite. It's a turn-based rpg about monsters you can capture and carry with you in handheld-size balls, but arbitrarily only 6 at a time. Do you really think we need some sense of realism for this?
I expected the models to be the same. That's why they have an absurdly high polygon count: they're built to last. I expect them to stay in the games largely unaltered for several generations.
But why in the fuck aren't the doing new animations? A lot of mons ended up in awkward fucking T-pose positions with no personality whatsoever. The vast majority are just sort of standing around. Compare this to Hitmontop or any of the Unown or any of the other actually good animations and it becomes obvious that there could be so much more.
And new animations aren't even fucking hard. It's a simple loop. As many designers as they have, the entire process could be done in a week or so of dedicated work. It's absurd. I'm not even a very good 3D animator and I could make an Idle, 2-3 Attacks, and a Damaged animation for any mon you can point at in an hour or so. This shit isn't hard. Fuck.
>>26603079
>I've never used or seen ZardX, Tropius, Salamence, Dragonite, Staravia or Mega Pidgeot
>>26602970
You could say the same for Pidgey, Spearow, Gengar, Farfetch'd, Doduo, Dodrio, Hoothoot, Tailow, Starly, Pidove, Rufflet, Vullaby, and Fletchling.
>>26603002
>>26603053
Gen 5 was completely overhauled with animations coming from gen 4. Pokemon were changed from a few frame gifs to a moving sprite, and semi moving camera angle. Gen 7 is completely copy-pasted from Gen 6. No changes have been made according to the footage.
>>26603267
we don't have the game yet - maybe they added more animations.
Probably not but you never know.
>>26603276
Im hoping they fix it personally. But I doubt it.
>>26602809
desu now that we have 3D models they'll almost never be different without changing what the pokemon looks like entirely. Also, SM models definitely look higher resolution and better overall.
>>26603134
>>26602809
I wish they'd at least send out flying Pokémon in their on-ground stance and as soon as someone tries to hit them with a ground type move they start flying for the rest of the battle's duration.
>>26602875
>better shading
>drag and dropping the lightsource location
>>26603330
The shading was previously on the texture of the Pokémon.
>wanting Game Freak to waste more than half the dev time on remodelling the highest quality models the majority of Pokemon have had yet
>people still get models and animations mixed up
The only problem is they're still using the flying models at all times for some Pokemon. But it's nothing game-breaking.
>>26603188
They could have made the flying animation for when the pokemon uses flying attacks (Fly, Aerial ace, Bravest bird) and used a ground model for when they fight on the ground.
>>26602809
I'm not going to buy this piece of shit, 2 years of "development"and they're announcing this with the "new abilities"
>>26603330
the shader is sharper and less pixaleted now, so that's nice.
>>26603188
Archeops and Hitmontop are probably the best animated mons this gen
>>26603404
>oh no an anonymous person is not buying the games oh no what a disgrace
>>26603330
>niggers like this who think they know shit about how these things work
Sasuga veepee
>>26603358
>Wasting dev time
>When we get a mainline game every 1.5 years or so
Only immature and impatient fans can't wait for a sequel that actually does sequel things, like system overhauls and added features that make older games have bigger gaps.
>ITT: OP goes into his 4th autistic fit of rage this morning because gamefreak didn't remake every single model from scratch
>>26603415
Archeops animation is terrible, but his model is even worse
>>26603188
You now remember Gran Turismo 6 has models from PS2 Gran Turismo 4 and literally zero players complained about it, since it meant MORE content.
Looking forward to all the content GF can now put into their games now that they only have to alter models on a case by case basis
>Expecting 700+ new 3D models every new generation.
shiggydiggy
>>26602845
But those were different you stupid nigger.
>>26603449
Explain.
>GF doesn't waste time remodeling hundreds of Pokemon from the ground up when they already have existing renders that work fine, if slightly underwhelming
>have more time and manpower to spend building the world and adding more content
Oh no what a fucking travesty
>>26603647
Youre going to feel like a real retard when you get no postgame content as usual.
>>26603593
>nigger
Defend this nigger
>>26603647
>Likely Not having a repeat of XY's and to an extent oras lack of post game content
Those fiends!
>>26603667
If they remodeled every pokemon then the main game would have had even less content in that case.
>>26603449
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about
>>26602876
NO. Their animations shoul;d be better.
I can accept Salamance though- it was always shown as flying without waving wings.
>>26602809
Hahahahaha all these retards justifying the reuse of shit 3d models are going to shit themselves and start bitching when the same shit tier 3d models are used for gen 8, gen 9 and gen 10
Gtfo faggots the models are horrible
>>26603188
> But why in the fuck aren't the doing new animations? A lot of mons ended up in awkward fucking T-pose positions with no personality whatsoever.
This.
I don't think they should make new animations for everyone but for some of them specially Pokemon that might have other animations with absolutely more personality (Tropius, Eelektross, Xatu... or even some megas like M-Pidgeot)
They kept many sprites in gen 5, but some Pokemon had had small changes or even a completely new sprite for these Pokemon that could be improved.
I also find silly that some Pokemon have even five animations and other ones only one or two when could have more mobility. I'm sure I would be able to make various animations for many of my favourite Pokemon.
>>26602809
>being suprised its gonna use the same models when it's on the SAME CONSOLE
>b-but Gen 2!
That's because Gen 1's sprites were absolute garbage and Gamefreak was a tiny company with a small budget for their first Pokemon game.
Now what I'm worried about is if GF is gonna keep the same awful cries, cause they either need to redo or revert 90% of the Pokemon cries.
The models are hi-res enough to last until Nintendo makes a handheld with 1080p or some shit, so you better get used to them and their reused animations for the next 30+ years.
>>26602829
>>26602829
He's a retard that's complaining that gamefreak didnt spend another 6 years redoing models.
>>26603998
This. The Pokemon models have a ridiculously high polycount for a 3DS game, which is why the game runs like shit. They were obviously made with future generations in mind.
>>26603134
They're not gonna change shit and you know it.
>>26603915
Model isnt the issue, it's the animation.
>>26603415
>>26603609
>>26603788
How can you defend this? He looks like he's struggling to survive. He should be grounded.
Reusing models isn't lazy.
Making new ones would be a waste of time and money.
>>26604204
Show me a chicken that can fly properly.
>>26602864
>it's the (lack of) personality to them
Any other buzzwords?
>>26604216
Archeops isn't a chicken.
>>26604204
That's how birds would look if they tried to fly in place.
>>26604017
I don't care if the models are the same, it's the animations that are awful, especially on the flying Pokemon who clearly only have those animations because of the failed concept of Sky Battles.
>>26604216
>>26604204
>the evolutionary bridge between dinosaurs and birds isn't a good flyer
Shocking
>>26602875
>when u go out of your way to defend their laziness
>>26603053
Weren't gen 4 and 5 the same engine?
>>26603188
>A lot of mons ended up in awkward fucking T-pose positions with no personality whatsoever.
Not everything needs to autistically jump up and down 24/7.
>>26603912
>I also find silly that some Pokemon have even five animations and other ones only one or two when could have more mobility.
ORAS Pokedex doesn't show all the animations.
>mentioning Eelektross as bad
No.
There are like 7 "gliding" mons out of 93 flying Pokemon yet you always see the same ones posted. Really speaks about how "big" this problem is.
>>26603681
I don't remember then being animated in Gen IV
>>26603915
So what about gen 4 and 5 then?
>>26604318
Same console. Also Gen 5 took many Gen 4 sprites as a base and added some more frames to them.
>>26604340
>same console
So is this, you autistic fuck! Do you have an actual point, or are you just going to flail your arms on /vp/ for the next six months?
>>26604205
Specially when the current ones are already pushing the limit of what the 3ds can do.
>>26604313
It was Emerald/Crystal 1 second animation
>>26604246
only 90's kids will understand this
>>26603667
I'm waiting to make that assumption because this early I had little hope for BW2
>>26604233
It's the first thing that can fly no wonder it's shit at flying
>>26603033
Do you really think they'll spend the development time on something else now that they can reuse models from the last gen?
>>26604410
My point is that it's no surprise that XYORAS ans SM share the same models and animations because of them all being on the same console.
>>26603134
>GAME FOOTAGE IS NOT FINAL
>5 months until release
They might change the HP bar.MIGHT.
>>26603330
>>26603341
And it was OBVIOUS as fuck in certain pokemon.
>>26604567
ORAS first gameplay trailers had errors such as skipping the animation for falling in a hole, etc that aren't present in the final game. Games got released just 6 months after the announcement.
Also Calem's flying glasses, etc
>>26604672
So what you're saying is they might add the circle in the final release after all
>>26602809
Are you familiar with the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it?"
>>26602809
They said themselves these models are supposed to last a few gens back when they made XY, I don't know why you're surprised
>>26604313
And I don't remember the models having better lighting in XYORAS.
Checkmate.
>>26604204
>He looks like he's struggling to survive.
THAT'S THE POINT
>It runs better than it flies. It catches prey by running at speeds comparable to those of an automobile.
>>26602864
my problem is the pale coloring
>>26603681
I'm cool with the sprites being the same but at least they added life to them the following gen.
Salamence is just floating there in Gen 6 and he's just floating again in 7
>>26602809
The colors look more vibrant and saturated. And the edges of the models aren't as sharp with the pixels they're more smooth, natural, and rounded. It's not the most massive with the graphics, but it's noticeable when you look at it, desu
>>26605370
>added life to them
>literally do nothing but the same short animation, over and over, with no change
>>26605370
Salamence doesn't flap its wings in official appearances.
>>26602829
>>26602864
>>26604205
Pokemon is reusing the same models
