>gens 4 and 5 were on the same handheld
>battles looked drastically different between them
>gens 6 and 7 are on the same handheld
>battles look the same
People are gonna defend this too. How awful.
>>26588930
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>>26588930
Well they changed the overworld from chibi to actual 3d
>>26588930
Because gen 6-7 is repeating what 1-2 did.
>>26588930
The only "improvement" Gen 5 added was badly pixelated animated sprites that scaled like shit.
>>26588930
A lot of people aren't defending it.
>trainers in back ground
>no circles
>time of day included
>drastically different HP bar
>bystanders
Antu-hype fags are the cancer of /vp/, I swear.
>>26588946
Sure is summer in here
Gen 4 and 5 didn't look drastically different what are you talking about
>>26588930
Because gen 6 visuals don't need a change dumbass, they are fully animated in 3D and thus without new hardware there's nothing to improve
gen 4 sprites were still static so there was loads of room for improvement
>>26588980
Fucking this.
Given the technology, it's a lot easier to create more complex sprites than it is to create drastically better 3D models
>>26588930
>battles looked drastically different between them
They only changed HUD, background, and the SAME sprites just animated.
Also this>>26588980
The overall battle look is different, the only thing they kept is the models- and there's no point in changing those when they have a high enough poly count to work on future more powerful hardware *with probably higher quality textures though*. Only difference needed atm is probably animations.
Hopefully they touch up some of the models.
>>26588980
>>time of day included
Hasn't it always been?
>>26588980
Indeed. VP this morning sure has been...stupider than usual.
>>26588980
op is a cumguzzler and these changes are nice and all, but truth to be said it's all just background tweaks and the battles do look pretty much completely the same. it's closer to the transition between black/white and black/white 2 than gen 4 to gen 5.
>>26589075
Well, more obvious then usual. XY/ORAS looked like early evening when now it looks like the night.
>>26588966
This, rotating spritework is sinful
>>26589041
>>26589047
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>implying removing circles isn't a night and day change
>>26589108
Fuck, it didn't space correctly. In all seriousness, they definitely need to improve framerate consistency, because those lag spikes during the split-screen battle animations are ridiculous.
>>26589129
Who are you replying to?
>>26588965
You mean suck really hard in order to age really poorly?
>>26589047
Salamence still glides in place like a retard so... No, they didn't "touch up" anything.
>Lelelele This gaem is gonna suck I told you sooo xD
What do you gain from this, OP? If the game sucks, you lose too. It's one thing to lower expectations, but Jesus, /vp/ derailed the hype train as soon as we knew the names of these games.
>>26589248
It's understandable since ORAS and X/Y were the worst pokemon games ever released
>>26589248
>Being hyped for a bad game
>>26588930
Gen V battles look WORSE than Gen IV battles yet Gen V is /vp/'s favorite and hailed as the pinnacle of the series, so I don't really understand what kind of point you're trying to make here. Also, this: >>26588980
>>26589016
It's not models will always be considerably easier to deal with than sprites.
Did people actually expect there to be new models, considering the amount of work that went into the current crop? This shit could easily carry them for another generation after Sun and Moon.
What's vexing is that they don't seem to have acknowledged any of the criticisms regarding certain Pokemon being stuck in really awful flying animations instead of putting them in a "grounded" pose when not in sky battles, assuming it ever reached their ears to begin with. It's not like the poses don't exist either, it's just a matter of swapping the two. That and the washed out colors, which is more an issue with the lighting than the models themselves.
>>26588980
>yfw the champion battle has a large crowd of people watching
>>26588946
>implying gf will create 700+ new sprites before the game launches
>>26589354
>Framerate drops to 10 frames per second, 5 with 3D
>>26589283
>Gen V battles look WORSE than Gen IV battles
Nice meme.
>>26589325
They just needed to add a few new animations, for a very small amount of pokemon, most of them already have standing animations because of the pokemon amie, they just needed to animate their attacks, but gamefreak is lazy as fuck.
>>26589287
>deal with
Anyone can fuck with a model. Doesn't mean it'll be work out better. Animation, frame rate, quality respective to other pokemon.
Except there are dozens of changes they made.
>>26588980
>>trainers in back ground
Just a little background difference. Remember, we're talking about Pokemon battles where the main point is POKEMON, not random people who will not even have animations if they're fodder, and won't exist in wild battles.
>>no circles
Only relevant change
>>time of day included
You're late to the party, bro. Diamond and Pearl did that almost a decade ago.
>>drastically different HP bar
That's the ABSOLUTE bare minimum they could do. Even Diamond and Pearl had different HP bars compared to Platinum and Heart Gold Soul Silver, games in the same freaking gen. I wouldn't even count that as a positive. More like the minimum needed to not be clearly lazy.
>>bystanders
>Lying on /vp/ to get people hyped for a shit game
>>26588930
>S/M
>Gen 7
>>26589646
>>bystanders
>Lying on /vp/ to get people hyped for a shit game
I think you didn't saw the Pokenchi screenshot from S/M. You can see bystanders in the battles.
>>26589734
That was one battle. At best I can see bystanders being a thing in gym matches or the Elite 4, but not just for any old battle.
>>26589646
>Just a little background difference. Remember, we're talking about Pokemon battles where the main point is POKEMON.
I suppose I can see that.
>You're late to the party, bro. Diamond and Pearl did that almost a decade ago.
Which was then taken to the bare minimum in Gen 6
>>Lying on /vp/ to get people hyped for a shit game
You shitting me?
>>26589866
A battle is still a battle man.
>>26589375
>sprites
>>26589734
Oh yeah my bad.
But i t looks like the fatass that gives you the starters and someone else (protag's mom? It's a female).
I don't expect fodder to appear as bystanders
>>26589998
Honestly, I think implementing 3D models for Pokemon on the 3DS was extermely premature. It just can't handle it properly. They should have just stuck with sprites for one more gen, then released gen VI on NX Handheld.
>>26588930
Yeah, Gen 5 looks like shit, way to go champ.
>>26589325
>What's vexing is that they don't seem to have acknowledged any of the criticisms regarding certain Pokemon being stuck in really awful flying animations instead of putting them in a "grounded" pose when not in sky battles, assuming it ever reached their ears to begin with. I
Why would a complaint from /vp/ only reach a japanese developer?
