HERE IT IS COMPARED TO HOENN, BUILDING SIZES PROPORTIONATE
WE'RE FUCKED
A giant chunk of Hoenn's map consist of walls trees, unexplorable waters. Alola is literally packed to shit with stuff, practically almost no non-traversable terrain.
>>26578293
Don't act like even if I cut out all that unused space on the Hoenn Map that it still wouldn't be huge compared to Alola.
The game is clearly designed with DLC in mind. We're gonna get more islands
>>26578266
Can we get a proper size comparison of the regions? I know it'll be impossible with Kalos' awful fucking map, but Hoenn's is great, and Kanto/Johto/Sinnoh have passable ones.
>>26578320
Johto is the smallest one to date.
This bait is delicious op, more!
>>26578266
>Beach area and road on the first island is the same size as Route 101 on the map.
>We already know it's much bigger.
fuck off
>>26578338
>Can't accept facts
>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT
Nigga just use your eyes
>>26578266
>>26578440
Still huge as fuck compared to Alola, dipshit.
7,8/10 too much islands
>>26578451
rude tbqh
>>26578451
Maps aren't to scale, fuckwad.
>>26578503
Prove otherwise, jackass.
>>26578440
You're being too generous there. If you want to help, erase everything that is inaccesible to the players
>>26578440
>>26578266
nice photoshop to make the islands smaller you faggot
0/10
>>26578514
Not fair, dipshit. How do you know EVERY INCH of Alola is accessible? The only fair way to compare is to include all locations, accesable or not.
>>26578507
suck a cock nigger
>>26578527
Those are literally cut out from the map, retard.
>>26578451
Now scale up Alola so the Pokecenters are as large as the Hoenn Pokecenters.
>>26578558
a really small version nonetheless
0/10
>>26578539
Then include all the water of Alola. Are you stupid? Why does it matter that Hoenn's map is 10x bigger if you can't explore 90% of it?
>>26578548
Aww, poor baby.
>>26578574
You can't surf in any of the water on Alola where ferries travel.
>>26578566
What part of "scaled so building sizes are the same" do you not understand?
ow the edge
The ultimate bait
Such low quality it will just suck you right in.
>>26578597
You can't walk in 90% of the landmass of Hoenn either. At least I know You're actually retarded now. I'm out
>>26578353
Thank you
>>26578597
except they aren't sized the same
the pokecenters are 1/8th the size of the hoenn ones and you can not even find them without looking at a larger map
shit job
>>26578631
>the pokecenters are 1/8th the size of the hoenn ones
Why are you lying?
>>26578637
>nigger can't even check his own bullshit map
I can see the pookecenters clear as day on that hoenn map but you can't see jack shit on the alola map
fix your terrible picture that's obviously bait instead of defending how bad you are a mapmaking
>>26578597
You scaled it so that the huge fucking apartment buildings on the first island are the same size as regular houses in Hoenn.
>>26578266
Look at the size of the buildings in this city. Notice how much they tower over NPCs.
Why did you make these buildings around the same size as the ones in Hoenn, knowing full well that they're fucking huge in comparison?
>>26578266
This assumes the Alola map uses the same scale as the Hoenn map, which is very presumptuous.
Poor OP, no one's taking the bait
Delete the thread and try again, try to make it so that the Hoenn map is only twice as big as Alola, you don't need to go full retard
>>26578752
>no one's taking the bait
>36 replies, 17 ips
>>26578777
All about how OP is a shitty bait manufacturer.
>>26578793
You don't understand how bait works, do you?
>>26578630
kek
HE HAS THE BAIT FOR ALL SCENARIOS
>>26578826
Isn't it used for fishing or something like that?
>>26578266
Take your meds
>>26578872
Who are you talking to?
You are aware that be main island has like 5 fucking towns, including a mountain with a city in top right?
Whoever made this terrible bait image didn't observe the screenshots with the player walking around in the city, otherwise they'd know that the buildings in Alola are much much larger than most of the buildings in Hoenn.
This shit is not to scale at all.
I know this is a shit bait, but if you want to cut all the accessible area then so can I.
>>26578964
There being something obviously wrong that you can't point out without OP calling you autistic is what makes this good bait.
>>26578305
That is exactly what we're saying. Go do so and get back to us.
>>26579007
the alola map needs to be way fucking bigger, still, and everyone in this thread is blind and retarded. there are a ton of pokemon centers. use those for scale. current you have the smallest buildings in hoenn scaled to the largest in alola. not accurate. alola is larger than hoenn.
>>26579007
Now squish everything together to get rid of all the empty space.
>>26579007
>he thinks every single inch of alola is accessible
>>26578703
this guy gets it, even with oras, those buildings are bigger than normal ones, so the alola map should be somewhat bigger
>>26579147
Have you looked at the map? Sure it isnt every inch, but its a MUCH denser region than any in the past, with areas overlapping in various ways, the walls are more like thin lines barring travel in a direction than giant fuckhuge rectangles.
>>26579147
every inch may not be accessible, but this scale is still fucking wrong guys! holy shit are you fucking dumbfucks! do you have no spacial reasoning? not only is the alola map full wrap 3D around the islands as opposed to a top-down always-north facing 2D eagles view map, but the characters themselves are bigger. before we were tiny 2d chibi things exploring a condensed and grid-locked... grid. now everything is opened up and you can just walk around things. and again, this scale is wrong and you are wrong.
>>26579007
I should also mention that, thanks to >>26579127, we can see that the PokeCenters in the Alola map are 2 pixels tall while the ones on the Hoenn map are 7 pixels tall. Increasing the Alola map by 350% shows, well...
>>26579180
this + the scale they are using from the getgo is fucking warped. they are saying the biggest alola building is the same size as the smallest hoenn building, and anybody with a brain could see this. to not see this, to even make it at this ridiculous and myopic scale, is to either be completely simpleton, or pretending to be. it's either you're stupid or you're pretending to be stupid. and both are punishable. so change the fuckdamn scale.
>>26579259
>You can resize those however you want to fit your assbent agenda, dipshit. Kill your self.
>>26579259
this is probably accurate.
>>26579296
if the agenda is to be correct, i don't care if you think i have an agenda. dipshit. the OP's post is fucking wrong. defend it and all you are defending is ignorance. if you want to judge things by the same scale, you have to actually judge it by the fucking scale, and not by arbitrary standards. we, the people saying it is larger, are not the one using these arbitrary criteria. You Are.
>>26579259
More accurate, although I guarantee that when SM comes out people will still complain about the region feeling small just because of the seemingly more free region layout.
>>26579371
oh itll certainly FEEL small. but will it BE small? nope. the 2d 3d divide is a confusing thing for people with no spacial reasoning or suspension of disbelief. if you can't think abstractly, you're going to complain about this game.
>>26579357
>TO SCALE TO SCALE TO SCALE TO SCALE
>Small road bigger than a city, a route, and a town
You didn't think this one through did you?
>>26579259
Still not accurate, but you'll probably never be able to fully compare the two regions.
ORAS is a 3D game with a fixated camera that's almost always in one spot, with an over world that's taken straight from a top-down 2D game.
SM is fully 3D, none of that blocky stuff, and it also shows various camera angles, so you'll always be looking at the region in a different way.
I believe Alola is the biggest region we have right now though, maybe only BW2 Unova is able to match it.
>>26579452
dude. are you retarded?
>>26579634
Are you?
Scaled to the pokemon centers. Cut out the incredibly obviously utraversable parts of the big island.
>>26579687
only person not fucking retarded in this thread
>>26579452
for the last fucking time guys. use the pokemon centers for scale. then consider the fact that these are 3D maps that wrap fully around the island and arent just top down. then consider all the indoor areas, forest areas, and the overall transition to a 360 light dome. this map is the biggest region we have gotten. period. no amount of arbitrary qualifiers can argue against this. OP's scale is astronomically incorrect. to defend it is to say you are a simpleton.
>>26579687
You're fucking retarded
>>26578266
WOW GAMEFREAK ARE YOU EVEN TRYING?
>>26579687
I have a neutral opinion regarding your intelligence
>>26579664
>>26579733
is it a meme to call people retarded for no reason now? to defend OP's scale is infinite dumbfuckery.
>>26579687
The only one that isn't clearly biased to making one region bigger than the other.
Only good post in the thread too.
There may be some differences but no region is WAY bigger than any other, except Kanto I guess.
Why are people using the shittiest region to compare to the newest, best region
>>26579687
Fixed
>>26579758
Thanks.
>>26579739
Artstyle means a lot here.
>>26579798
Thanks
>>26579772
full wrap 3D around the islands. we aren't seeing the back halves of them. alola is bigger, in every sense of the term. this is not opinion. this is logic based on evidence. it's not bigger because i want it to be, it just Is Bigger. this thread has no spacial reasoning
>>26579797
Because it's the only one other than Alola to have a stylized map that's an exact reproduction of the overworld rather than a simplified overview
>>26579739
>>26579810
>>>26579739
>Artstyle means a lot here.
it was bait, anon was making fun of the fact that OP's pic is blatantly incorrect scale.
>>26579836
>Alola's is an exact reproduction
Get a load of this hot assumption
>>26579687
I'm a pure hoennfag, but even if you prove that Alola is like 35% bigger than Hoenn with your screen, I don't care because you did well.
>>26579815
Logic states that every region has empty space and there's no reason to assume Alola has none so far. We also don't know the exact scale of the region yet.
We might as well say Johto or Sinnoh is the biggest because they definitely have the least empty space as the locations are generally compact in those regions.
>>26579858
You just have to compare screenshots to the map to know its true
Kalos map was simplified, Alola is an exact replica
>>26579836
The only regions with simplified overviews are Unova and Kalos. If you look at the HGSS artwork you can see every route in Kanto and Johto.
I mean the scale is still off as always I'm sure almost every town in the franchise has more buildings than we see but still.
>>26579772
Another thing to consider is how the buildings are represented in the games, in hoenn the pokecenter is generally the biggest building in the town unless it's like, lillycove or something. But in alola it seems the pokecenters are the smallest. Hoenn does have LOL tier bigger on the inside pocket dimensions as buildings, so maybe we wont have that anymore. From the screenshots of the game it seems likely.
>>26579868
I'm not assuming it doesn't have empty space. my statements include that implied line of thought. maybe alola is not the biggest. but to try to defend OP's scale is pure autism. to act like OP's scale is somehow more accurate than the people simply saying "hey, this is inaccurate" is to tell everybody here you're a dumbfuck.
>>26579739
>GAMEFREAK SHILLS WILL DEFEND THIS
>>26579934
woooooooooooow
>>26579934
Christ, I didn't think it was this bad.
>>26579916
I said the guy I was replying to was the only good post here. OP is a complete retard. I actually feel dumb just thinking about being mistaken as defending OP. Don't worry anon.
>>26579913
Yeah, like I said here >>26579909, every region's scale is still off when you think about how all the buildings are bigger on the inside and the towns likely have more buildings than depicted in games/maps, realistically.
>>26579798
You literally trimmed out a visible path into the forest at the top.
>>26578337
Which is ironic since it's based on the second largest region of Japan, Kanto being based on the largest
>>26579934
This is hilarious but you should have used Cherrygrove City.
Also make one with that notoriously small Kanto Route and Kalos Route 1.
>>26579371
people are gonna complain no matter what.
>>26579934
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT
>>26579934
Maximum cake
Can't wait for the game to be released so that /v/ can leave.
>>26579934
kek
>>26578266
>take out dead space in alola
>leave in dead space in hoenn
:^)
but Alola looks actually beautiful to explore, it's a more fully realized world, not a chibi gridlike representation of one. I did initially wish there were more islands, but I wouldn't be surprised if these games get a third expanded version over something like Z
>>26579990
heaven is missing an angel, because you're posting on /vp/ rn
many blessed keks
>>26580192
>use fucked up scale on top of all that
>>26579934
>>26579990
Is this a new meme I smell?
>>26579990
kek
>>26578266
Nope. Building in the sprites games were tiny cubes, and were almost always bigger on the inside. Building size isn't a good indicator for size relevance.
>>26578313
That would be fucking awful. I'd rather get less in a full game than get charged extra to access the rest of an incomplete one. Do people actually look forward to having to pay extra for shit that should be in the base game? I'm not even trying to be an asshole here, I legitimately do not understand this mentality at all.
>>26578266
>building sizes proportionate
That's not how it works, though.
>>26578266
AND HERE'S HOENN COMPARED TO KALOS
AND STILL PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT
>>26579259
So much fucking water in Hoenn
>>26578266
desu a big reason everyone hated Hoenn was because it was just so much empty space. Miles and miles of water routes, and it was such a pain. I'd be glad if they cut all that shit out.
>>26579713
>>26579733
>>26579758
/vp/ in a nutshell
>>26578313
You motherfuckers said the same thing about X and Y. GF doesn't do DLC.
>>26578266
Yeah, and according to the Hoenn map that bridge over the river in Route 119 is about as long as Mt. Pyre is high. Is it so hard for you shitposters to understand the concept of stylised maps?
They didn't teach geography on American schools? Fuck this thread.
>>26581549
>didn't
Don't.
>>26579990
Now put Hoenn on the side to see how much bigger the truck is compared to it.
You guys took out most of the fucking water. What are you guys, IGN?
Add some water back into the Alola map or take all the water out the Hoenn map to make it even
>>26581729
Geee, another cretin...
The water between the islands wont be accessible, it'll be boat curscenes
The surfable areas are bordered by rocks, like in other games.
Pic related
>Scaling maps
>In a series that has never had accurate maps
The fuck are you people doing.
>>26582409
Maps have been accurate since ORAS though
The Hoenn map in OP pic is a perfect representation of ORAS overworld, and so will be the Alola one
>>26582515
>The maps have eben accurate since ORAS though
So you mean once. they've been accurate once.
>>26582515
No way this is the same person who drew the ORAS map, the style is different. Also it happening once means jack.
>>26578826
People have to believe it's real.
>>26578266
WHY IS THE ORAS MAP OF HOENN SO UNNATURALLY SQUARED OFF REEEEEEE
>>26582515
patternfaggs are rediclous, but at least they have multiple points to make a line out of. something happening once is literally meaningless, espically in 20 years of stuff.
>>26582515
You can't use the word since until it's happened three times in a row. That's not how that works.
>>26582650
because it's a remake of a game where literally everything was forced into tiles
>>26579990
top kek
>>26579687
Got rid of optical illusion
>>26582893
They look like Olympic logos
>>26582736
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE EDGES HAVE TO BE SQUARED OFF I'M FINE WITH THE ROUTES ETC BEING THAT WAY
>>26578266
>ALOLA IS SMALL AS SHIT
How small are your shits? Mine are pretty big.
Also, what does your shit smell like, just asking, no reason...
>>26582409
>>26582515
>>26582546
>>26582586
The maps in Gen 4 were perfect representations of the overworld as well. Just very slightly styled to look more realistic. But ORAS was definitely not the first time.
>>26578313
That would ruin the entire experience of it being based off of Hawaii. I'd rather travel back to Kalos.
>>26579798
Don't forget half of hoenn is water routes
>>26579934
Kek
I don't really think it matters how you try to scale these maps.
Judging by one of the Japanese PV's we got yesterday, it seems like everything will be big as shit in SM, so the islands and the world will feel very small, even if it's bigger than Hoenn in a raw comparison.
>>26578313
The autism is strong with this one
>>26586094
Water routes are still routes
>>26580657
That Kalos map is pretty fucking inaccurate.
Then again , I've forgotten how most of Kalos is like.
I can't even remember the Victory Road.
>>26586677
The Kalos map is simplfied
The Alola one is an exact replica
>>26578266
Are you retarded? Like clinically? Did you take a hit on the head as a toddler? did daddy touch you at night? Do you eat glue?
>th-the new games have to be bad!
get cucked to death OP
>>26586714
This is true for only some of it, a large majority of the routes are blurry messes on the Alola map.
>>26579798
seems accurate
wooooow gamefreak
>even in the water
Woow perfect fit
>>26578266
gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good kill me gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good gonna be good
>>26588114
XD
