Why were all the evolutions introduced in Gen 4 so ugly and different from their pre-evo?
>>26559753
"When working with garbage foundations sometimes it is better to cut your losses and adapt the best parts into something new."
I'm so glad Togekiss saved the line
>Leafeon
>Glaceon
>Tangrowth
>Poygon-Z
>ugly
fucking fight me bitch
the best one
You best not be talking shit about Tangrowth.
>>26559753
>implying anything about gen 4 is good
There was no saving magmar and electabuzz without radical redesigns
>>26559753
>Togekiss
>Glaceon
>Porygon-Z
>Tangrowth
>Magmortar
You should call your mom and ask her if its not too late to get that abortion
Only Rhyperior and Magmortar bugged me a little bit.
>>26559753
>The Razor Evolution
>Porygon Z
>The New Eeveelutions
>The Ancient Power Evos
>P O R Y G O N Z
Why were all the opinions introduced by OP so bad and incorrect?
Why are there so many Gen 4 threads tonight?
>>26559861
/vp/ just really likes discussing the best gen
Because most of them are round and fatties.
>Electabuzz -> Electivire
>Magmar -> Magmortar
>Rhydon -> Rhyperior
>Tangela -> Tangrowth
>Lickitung -> Lickilicky
>Murkrow -> Honchkrow
>Piloswine ->Mamoswine
>Magneton -> Magnezone
>Togetic -> Togekiss
That one image summing up every gen's general design was absolutely right about Gen 4.
>>26559861
SinnohFetuses control this board
>>26559753
>BREAKING NEWS: LOCAL MAN IS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
>>26559867
You mean worst gen
One of the three Rhyperior fans out there reporting in
>>26559753
>Togekiss
>Ugly
pick one
They fucked up Rhydon.
>>26559753
You say that as togetic wasnt already a big disappointment itself
>anome hypes togepi up to 11
>in game it just turns into a blob bird.
Togekiss is meh, but he sure isnt as shit as togetic.
>>26559753
wrong
Rhyperior, Mismagius and the eveevolutions are the only good ones
grant you the rest, they ruined my bro magneton for that ufo piece of shit
you all should be thankfull to gen 4
now you can stick an eviolite on it and make it usable
>>26559990
I agree with this guy
>>26559768
>>26559818
>Glaceon
Literally the took my Mom's Eevee, painted it blue and glued on a himecut.
>>26560031
>Eviolite
>gen 4
>>26559753
>togepi: newly hatched egg
>togetic: somewhat angelic, body shape is that of an awkward, young bird
>togekiss: a dove, an animal often associated with angels
Yeah, seems fine from over here.
>>26560081
>(You)
>this fucking dense
>>26560081
what I mean is that without gen 4 evos, all your favs would be as useless as before because final stage, even after gen 5
>>26560126
Yeah because being knock off bait is any better. The worst part is that they'll never get megas either because these shit stains exist
All this shit taste, they were pretty great
>>26560147
if this didn't exist and they got megas the megas would look like the current final evos and you know it
>>26559753
Why do Sinnohfetuses get so upset whenever anyone criticizes their gen?
>>26560188
Which would have been preferable because they weren't permanent and they would have gotten better boosts.
Hell the whole reason megas and eviolite exist is because people hated the evolutions in gen 4.
>>26559753
I don't think they're ugly, and some of them really needed the buff of an evolution, like Murkrow and Sneasel. Honchkrow was definitely prettier. Togekiss isn't ugly, though it is not as cute, though it does keep with the visual theme of the family. Tangrowth looked odd but it wasn't any uglier than Tangela, who was pretty useless without an evolution as well. Magmortar and Electivire looked weirdly beefed up, but the main down side to them was that Jynx didn't get a similar evolution.
Their designs make no fucking sense.
Tangrowth I get and like. He's alone in ok tier.
I fucking hate Rhyperior. Magmortar makes no sense design-wise. Electivire is awful. Why do BOTH Elekid and Electabuzz have lightning marks on their body, and Electivire suddenly has none? Not only that, he becomes furry?
What in the fuck is Honchkrow? Murkrow was a WITCH. Witch's hat and nose and broom. Full blown witch design. Honchkrow is wearing a fuckin fedora. What the ever living fuck inspired that?
Mamoswine makes no fucking sense, it goes from pig to mammoth? Or is it supposed to be a giant boar? The name combines mammoth and swine. Whatever. Stupid evo, and completely unnecessary.
Magnezone makes no sense given Magneton lore.
Given Togetic's Pokedex entries, Togekiss's design makes no sense. It could fly without wings if needed, so why sprout even bigger wings? And why are the wings fused with its body? What in the fuck?
And as much as a like Lickilicky, it suffers from the same senseless design flaws. Of the above, Lickitung was the one that was most suited to being a final evo and should've gotten a baby form.
>>26560195
>Why do Sinnohfetuses get so upset whenever anyone criticizes their gen?
You mean like every other gen fetus in this board?
Fuck off with that hypocritical bullshit.
>>26560320
Please, Sinnohfetuses can't take a single mote of criticism.
It's why the whole
>IT'S A CHALLENGE
thing is starting to pop up when people talk about it.
>>26560301
The designs make sense. The problem here is your stupidity.
You don't even understand electivire when its the simplest 'lightning oni' design
>>26560320
Hey, it's Genwunners, Johtokids, Hoennbabbies, Sinnohfetuses, Unovabortions and did we ever agree on what we would call Kalosfags?
>>26560368
Ah yes everyone knows that Electivire and Magmortar are based on the lightning and flame oni. Just like Throh and Sawk are the Red and Blue oni
>>26560393
Ended up with XYgotes
>>26560301
Well thank goodness you left out a few, like Mismagius, Gallade, Roserade, Ambipom, Weavile, Gliscor, Yanmega, Probopass, Dusknoir, Froslass, Glaceon, Leafeon, and Porygon-Z.
>>26559894
m'niggais Rhyperior fighting legendaries some kind of theme or...?
>>26560393
No faggot, it's Kantokids, then Johtoddlers
>>26560393
Kalossperm
>>26560531
have one with him vs fug?
>>26560563
next will be Alola(twinkleinyourfatherseye)
>>26560554
>Kantokids
Literally no one agreed on that because genwunners already filled that role.
>>26559894
It actually doesn't look that bad on all fours.
>>26560599
He's right about the Johtoddlers though.
>>26560301
>>26559868
>>26559753
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>26560611
You don't look to bad on all fours if you know what I mean.
>>26560619
That's why I didn't say anything about that.
>>26560625
>Yokai Watch Yokai actually look like Yokai
>Most Pokemon Pokemon don't look like Pokemon
Holy shit. The pokemon killer rumor was true.
>>26559753
The only bad evolution in gen 4 was rhynferior.
The designs got fucked up in gen 6 with mega evolutions. Beedrill should've just gotten its mega as a final evo since god knows it needed it. The unloved shit pokemon should've gotten more buffs and evos like Lumineon, the pikachu clones, and all those other irrelevant mons that they just throw in without thinking about how shit they'll be.
>>26560301
>Not only that, he becomes furry?
Electabuzz always had fur. What did you think, that it was a lizard?
>Murkrow was a WITCH
K E K
E
K
You're delusional.
>The name combines mammoth and swine.
Yes. It's a mammoth swine. Welcome to Pokemon where most things are a mix of two other things.
>>26560795
>You're delusional.
>implying it wasn't
The only bad one is rhyperior.
>>26560795
>K E K
>E
>K
>You're delusional.
Gonna stop you right there. Murkrow WAS a witch.
I dunno why that fucker is confused about Electabuzz being furry or Mamoswine being a Mammoth Swine, but they're right on the money about Murkrow being a witch.
>>26559753
Togekiss' the only one that's actually ugly and a complete disappointment from the potential it could've had.
>>26560054
Epic.
Gen 4 had top tier roars though.
go listen to Lumineon and Togkiss, Gallade, Regigigas, or any of the gen 4 legendary or starter pokemons' roars.
>>26560847
Why'd you draw a cock on that murkrow?
>>26560579
Alolamoebas
We had this thread couple weeks ago
(So far off, they arent even humans at this point]
>>26560656
>Most Pokemon Pokemon don't look like Pokemon
Can you tell me how pokemon look?
>>26559768
>Tangrowth
Only good thing about it existing is that Eviolite helps my bro be a little less shit.
Otherwise, I never asked for Tangela to be made relevant with a dumb caveman evolution.
the main problem is gen 4 evos didn't follow natural progressions like other evolutions, it progressed the designs in a unique way, more akin to how megas alter the designs.
Gen IV isn't all bad.Gave us goat normal type
She should have looked like this
>>26561200
but what about the fat positive audience?
>>26561200
>she
>>26561221
>>26561230
ok she can be fat :( im sorry bt i hate that she look weird
>>26561173
Rhyhorn > Rhydon was a pretty huge change. Porygon-Z and Tangrowth were "natural" progressions.
>>26561242
I agree, but I mean in general. I know that a few don't follow the pattern which I put forth.
Gen 4 introduced more good evolutions then bad,
>Yanmega
>Gliscor
>Weavile
>Gallade
>Electivire
>Magmortar
>Lickilicly
>Tangrowth
They gave good designs and evolutions to pokemon that needed it. Rhyperior and the jewish nose-pass evolution are bad, ill agree. But even the worst gen 4 evolution pales in comparison to the consistent monstrosities that are mega evolutions.
>>26559753
>ugly
subjective
>different
Almost like they were designed numerous years apart.
>>26561154
Tangela was always dumb, you fuckhead
>>26559768
>Glaceon
rest are fine
>>26561265
>Yanmega
Looks like a fossilmon, not an evo.
>Gliscor
The eyes and barbie waist make it disgusting
>Weavile
Good.
>Gallade
Good.
>Electivire
Furbait and ugly
>Magmortar
Looks like a Mega Magmar except uglier
>Lickilicky
Looks like a pre-evo
>Tangrowth
Looks ok, but looks more like mega Tangela.
>>26560301
Actually, Murkrow looks like one of those classic mafioso, where as the obvious evolution would be from mafioso henchman to don; which is what Honchkrow is. Makes sense that Murkrow was based on mafia since crows a bunch of crows are called a murder, and what's the thing that the mafia is known for?
Now with Magneton, there was really no where else they could have gone design wise since it suffered from "three head" Gen I syndrome a la Dodrio, Eggexcutor, Dugtrio. So the design team made Magneton's evolution a flying saucer magnet, which is pretty cool.
As for Electivire, His design is probably one of my favorites. Electabuzz was pretty wild looking, so they took that wild look and pushed it to the next level. How can you not like a badass like Electivire?
Lastly, I completely agree with Togekiss, but the fault lies with Togetic's design. It was a really underwhelming evo for the mascot of the newly introduced baby Pokemon. As a kid, I thought my Togepi would evolve into a cupid-like monster, or something similar to Chansey or Wigglytuff. Something that gives off a warm, loving appearance. They just dropped the ball entirely.
>>26561254
I still don't really agree though. Electivire and Magmortar are about as different from Electabuzz and Magmar as Magby and Elekid were. Togepi's line is themed around eggs, so it makes sense that the final evolution is an egg-bird. Yanmega and Mamoswine are "regressions," symbolized by Yanma and Piloswine needing to learn Ancient Power. Probopass and Magnezone are just more magnetic versions of their pre-evolutions. Dusknoir looks like something that came out of Dusclops after pupating. Frosslass could have been a stand-alone, but then so could have Glalie. Gallade is a different take on the empathy theme of the Ralts line. Roserade just looks like it's bloomed more than Roselia. Ambipom has two hand-tails compared to Aipom's one, which is a pretty normal evolution.
I could sort of agree with you about Rhyperior, Lickilicky, and Gliscor, but that's it.
>>26560301
Your taste is so shit that I'm pretty sure that you're just straight up trolling. The Elekid-Electavire family is so based, and they've always had hair.
Are you implying Weavile is anything short of perfect?
Dont insult the greatest bat-scorpion-crab there has ever been!
>>26559753
>gen 4
>ugly
pls have sex
>>26559787
Can you imagine that sweet, sweet, enormous tongue slobbering all up and down your dick? Mmmm...
>>26559768
Jesus christ I thought this was a line of "yeah these are really ugly looking pokemon" and then I saw tangrowth and I thought that you were being a bit harsh.
Then I finished reading... god damn nigga raise your standards.
>Mamoswine
>Honchcrow
>Electrivire
>Togekiss
>Magnezone
I'll give you the fact that they don't seem like they're prevos, but they're all awesome designs
>Gliscor
>Weavile
>Porygon-Z
>Rhyperior
>Tangrowth
>Lickilicky
These all look like they've been there for at least 2 more gens than they've actually been, and they're top-tier design, so heck off
I thought Yanmega was awesome. I love the prehistoric looking dragonfly.
>>26560320
Hoennfags and Kalosfags seem to be fine with it.
It's the Johtofags that really get butthurt.
>>26559753
I just hate how fat it is. You can't tell where the wings end and the body begins. It's one round lump of a thing. Even the anime and 3D models don't make it look right.
Why do people like Tangrowth so much? What's so special about it other than being Tangela with arms?
Why aren't we talking about the uglyest mon ever designed yet?
>26562795
The part i hate more about Togekiss' design are its feet. Why they are glued together?
>>26562898
Vine Ball> Bigger Vine Ball.
I think it's a natural progression of its design
>>26563205
Hand tail > two hand tails.
I think it's a natural progression of its design
>>26563205
it's the fucking nose and bowlcut that make it nasty.
>>26562898
I would have been completely fine with Tangrowth if not for them fusing the vines together. It's still ok though.
>>26563205
Why the bowl cut?
Why the nose?
Who do the fingers loook like dicks?
This is a true atrocity.
>>26559753
>Togekiss out of all things is you example of different
>>26559787
looks like it should be the baby version
>>26559894
>>26560531
>>26560611
happy to see all three of you in one thread :)
>>26559753
Your opinion is shit. At least Gen 4 HAD new evolutions and pre-evolutions. Gen 5 had a bunch of Pokemon that should have been part of existing evolution chains but weren't (and were completely useless things too, such as Stunfisk and Buffolant), and Gen 6 didn't bother with new evolutions nor pre-evolutions for old Pokemon either.
Just a waste, if you ask me. At least some of the pointless and useless Pokemon could be used to expand the lore a little bit, but NOPE, just make them new and separate things that are complete garbage. Good idea.
>>26563391
Megas require a similar amount of work to real evolutions
just because they don't have a national dex numver doesn't mean they don't count
>>26559787
Correct, Lickilicky is top cute.
>>26562383
Gliscor is one of the best ones from Gen4
Gen 5 is just when the designes start to be lazier overall and this made the most obvies when compared to older mons in the same line.
>Yanmega wasn't a Bug/Dragon type
>Literally the perfect chance since Flygon or the original Yanma to make Bug/Dragon and they didn't take it
>We will never have Bug/Dragon
>>26559809
Electivire is nice, Magmortar is a different story.
I put the failure mostly on the animation of said Pokemon. If they were put in better, more dynamic positions, I probably would like them a lot more.
Tangrowth for example I just find to be boring, but that is also because of how it is drawn. Didn't care for Magnezone until Platinum's sprite.
although I don't like Togekiss regardless. Just a jet with a mouth.
>>26559753
Gen 4 had a thing for making new evos bulky-looking. I actually love Togekiss, just not as the end of the togepi line
