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What makes a Pokemon a Pokemon?
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>Yokai
goofy humanoid mons based on Japanese folklore.
>Digimon
ugly animals with weapons attached

So what makes a Pokemon?
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>>26501292
Many years ago I'd say simplicity but since we have shit like Palkia and Giratina now I guess it doesn't apply anymore.
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>>26501292
A monster that goes in your pocket
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>>26501292
A pokemon is an animal inside the pokemon worlds ecosystem.
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>>26501300
I would have to agree on the simplicity thing. We have some outliers, but they're usually straight-forward derivatives of their sources, in monster form.
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>>26501292
I actually really like the kappa digimon
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Yokai are ghosts or some shit, I dunno - based around japanese mythology...
Digimon are digital monsters, I don't know how that translates into animals and things with loads of stuff attached but that's their thing...
Pokemon are more based on natural things, even Vanilluxe is based on stalagtites, and Trubbish comes from the pollution of the natural world - arguable that it's pokemon's answer to foxes adapting to cities. It's when pokemon strays from it's nature-centric origins that people get mad at the designers, even if the people aren't fully aware of why they hate it.
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>>26501342
Typically,that's what most youkai are,if I'm remembering correctly,they're just inanimate objects that came to life.Obviously,the difference with pokemon is that they're also based on animals and other things
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>>26501292
>based on Japanese folklore
Have some doubt
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>>26501777
Jesus Christ, how did this ever get popular?
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>>26501292
When you think about it, Blastoise is the most digimon-like pokemon we have. Turtle with cannons attached.
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>>26501827
I recently got my hands on Yo-Kai Watch für my 3ds and i have to say, its a really fun game.

I mean, it has nothing in common with pokemon. At least not more than other games in the same genre.

It is still a fun and interactive game, with cool looking Yo-Kais. Dont get me wrong, there are some really awful designs in there, but there are also really good looking monsters.
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>>26501827
aggressive marketing, same as pokemon.
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>>26501777
Are these monsters from the game that tentatively is based on American folklore?
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>>26501856
*Aren't*
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>>26501840
>and i have to say, its a really fun game
Every video I've seen of it show it plays itself.
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>>26501300
They're actually pretty basic, all things considered. Them and Reshiram/Zekrom BW are the most complex Pokemon designs can get, and even then they're nothing to Digimon.
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>>26501874
Yes, it kinda plays itself. Im only 1h and 30min into the game, but you can have interactions with your Yo-Kais. Using a special skill (you have to play a little "minigame"), focus your attacks, rotate your monsters out, feed the enemies and more.
The hunting part is also really good.
Dont get me wrong, i wouldnt play Yo-Kai over Pokemon, but its still a fun game to play once in a while.
If you like these kind of games, you should give it a shot.
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>>26501983
>He's a child
>Post reply with cartoon character

Stop.
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>>26501777
But these ones are based on American culture.
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>>26501874
It gets harder. Expecially at endgame.
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>>26502046
>Literally your face after reading my post
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>>26501328
Nope.
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>>26501292
Pay attention to Pokémon lore.
Then you know what makes a Pokémon.
A Pokémon.
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>>26501319

/thread
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>>26501292
>>Digimon
ugly animals with weapons attached

I am so sick of this meme. This doesn't even apply to any of the Digimon you posted.
Not only that, but it DOES apply to fucking Blastoise.
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>>26502407
yeah he could of just left it as ugly animals
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>>26502421
I get the feeling the "ugly" thing is supposed to be a dig, but they're monsters, so
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>>26501874
>>26501891
>>26501983
>>26502065
regular battles outside of postgame speak for itself...up until the boss fights anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akGG95qnRpo
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>>26502103
> Pokemon are wild species
> Animals are wild species

It would be like if there's living ice cream in our world.

By the way, living rocks exists.
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>>26501777
holy shit I want that Christmas yokai to be my friend
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>>26501777

tubgirl is cute
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>>26501292
My problem with both yo-kai watch and digimon is that some of the monsters are almost entirely (or completely, in digimon's case) humanoid.

Even our most human like pokemon are still clearly monsters in face or body.
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>>26502517
in Digimon's case, isn't data a thing made by humans, hence human data is often uploaded all over the place? Collection-wise (depending on game) you either have 1-2 allies that keep dying and being reborn like Phoenixes or just uploading data you find.
in yo-kai watch's case, a good number of them were human who eventually died and became yo-kai. Guess most aren't 100% monsters. Far as I know you don't keep them in medals, instead use them like cellphones to call them over to help out, and then part ways when all is said and done.
Though if you're looking for the 'mon' in monsters, the two might not be the best choice in games.
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>>26502517

Well Digimon can also talk and are fairly intelligent. There's really no reason why there shouldn't be humanoid Digimon.
Heck in Frontier they are even classified as H-class Digimon and beastlike Digimon are B-class
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>>26501292
Yokai is goofy as fuck monsters.
Digimon is overdesigned as fuck monsters.
Pokemon is just monsters.

Look at Lickitung in OP's pick, and the thing it's compared to. Even if that thing wasn't a humanoid it'd still be made goofy, meanwhile Lickitung is just a pink lizard with a big tongue. People call Giratina overdesigned. Compare Giratina to the butterfly man next to Masquerain. Giratina hasn't got shit on that thing.
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>>26501292
Pokemon are more natural and animal like, or simplistic in design in comparison to Digimon/Yokai Watch. Their designs are also more appealing
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>>26502421
Animals? BS Pokemon has more ugly animals than digimon
Digimon is like 50%Machine and Humanoids
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>>26501292
i feel salt
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>>26502087
kek rekt
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>>26502819
digimon are all data so technically they are 100% machine
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Digimon have a reason to have weapons cause apparently the Digital World is hella dangerous and how else would hey protect themselves

Pokemon are more like pets with Humans in their world so things don't get out of hand as much
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>>26502665
Yeah that... bothers me too, I want them to be their own, independent race, and not my pets. If they're smart enough to talk i want nothing to do with owning them.
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>>26502966
This Black and White anime scene really bugged me.
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>>26502517
Digimon are just data so if the data that they're made up of is about humans I believe they would be humanoid. (I think that's how it works)
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>>26501292
What's funny is none of the digimon on your pic have weapons attached to them.
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>>26501292
>youkai
Mischievous spirits based on folklore/inanimate objects. They can be captured and used in situations via youkai watch. Some have alternate forms.

>pokemon
Animals/inanimate objects some based on folklore or real creatures. They evolve. They can be caught and trained. In pokeballs. Anybody can become a trainer.

>Digimon
Mostly humanoid or beasts made out of data. They can evolve. Come from digi-eggs. Thier power can only be harnessed by chosen children.
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Elemental monsters that are designed closer to monster/animal than human/thinking creature
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>>26501292
Wow yokai ripped the fuck outta pokemon
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>>26503230
Of course it fucking did
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>>26503230
Nah, it's just that it's based mostly around abstracted Japanese folklore. The monsters in OP's pic were chosen because they're based on the same things, allowing for good comparisons.
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>>26503230
Nah. Both just have influence from Japanese ghost monsters.
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>>26501292
I just want sexy animals.
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>>26501292
Theres a more regular kappa in the series to compare.
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>>26501292
Digimon are just data so they don't have to imitate animals. Most pokemon are pretty simplistic and imitate nature. Digimon just does whatever the fuck it wants.
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>>26503230
The only ones I thought "Wow what a fucking rip off" for a fleeting bit were the baku and the Electabuzz thing. Baku are a pretty common and concrete concept but this one being purple/pink with a flower on its face is what got it for me and the horns on the Elctabuzz oni thing got me there (I would also say the general body shape but I mean, for a cartoony design for what I guess it's supposed to be what else would it be shaped like).
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Why does the Digimon Kappa have a CD on its head and what looks like headphones?
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>>26503569
That's Gwappamon, a fucking cyborg kappa, and it's "fused from the data of a music player and the legendary animal, 'Kappa'". I... don't know.
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>>26501292
Naturally occurring animal-like creatures with elemental and almost magic abilities.
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>>26501777
holy shit, theres a yokai that's the ghost of Joe from Ashita no Joe. I need this game now.
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>>26503586
That explains the concept a little, but not WHY they fused a kappa with a CD player. Lotad was combined with a lilypad for example since kappa were said to have dishes on to pof their head and lilypads are often sort of interpreted as bowls or plates.
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>>26501827
Hipsters
Basically the equivalent to Poppliofags.
Only like it because others hate it and its "random".
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>>26503586
>Music based kappa
>Not Rappamon
One job digimon
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>>26501777
I want to fuck Lemongirl
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>>26501777
burgerman a best

also
>that subtle tubgirl reference
>triggered.swf
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>>26501292
Never been a fan of Digimon.
But Yokai makes it look like the greatest series ever made.
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>>26503530
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>>26503608
Because the dish was fused with a CD player's disk receptacle.
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>>26503720
I... guess I kinda get it. I think it'd be more obvious if there was a lid and wasn't surrounded by red noodley looking things. Why does it have a bandage on its stomach?
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>>26503664
Digimon are way worse than Yokai
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>>26503734
Because belly buttons are lewd and must be concealed
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>>26503049
Same here.
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>>26503734
Evocative of a stuffed toy. Although a cyborg type, various puppet type have similar elements.
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>>26501292
>ugly
CUTE
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You forgot Dismarelda and Muk.
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>>26502056
>>26501856
>>26501777
>boxing
>baseball
>not japanese
They're pretty big over there.
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>>26505329
Iirc those are explicitly "American"-themed Yokai, I think the latest Yokai Watch game in Moonland has a US theme and is set in California or something
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>>26501777
>Glass Joe youkai
Maybe I should get into YW
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>>26501292
You missed Raijinmon OP.
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>>26505248
Yokai made Muk a girlfriend? That's so sweet of them!
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>>26505828
But then you need to add another slime monster
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