Is Dusknoir the shittiest Ghost type ever?
>Two useless abilities
>Underwhelming stat increase, just 5 points to defenses from Dusclops and 100 Attack that it can hardly use without STAB
>Gets cucked by Dusclops in Gen V thanks to Eviolite
>Overdesigned garbage that ruons Dusclops and is living proof of the "stripes and spikes and patterns omg so overdesigned" meme
There's actually literally nothing redeeming about it... Wow.
>ruons
I'd agree he's one of the worst ghost types out there, and possibly the worst out of all the past mons that got an evolution in Gen IV.I still love him because of the mystery dungeon series though.
Duclops was one of my favorite pokemon.
Dusknoir, not so much.
While I am generally a fan of the other cross gen evolutions, this is one I cannot get behind. The Design is a pretty radical departure from the skull and mummy we had before. It's head isnt bad but nipple eyes and belly mouth are just weird.
I hope that we either get a branched evo off dusclops that keeps the skull/mummy theme or Dusknoir gets a mega that gives it an interesting ability, movepool, stat distro, and overall design change.
Pressure isn't a terrible ability but if we get a mega I think it would be something like Iron Fist or Sheer Force. Hell, even Shadow Tag would would since the Dex says it is the gripper pokemon and pulls people into the ghost world.
>he bought the spikes and stripes=overdesigned meme
Embarrassing.
>>26468693
>the shittiest Ghost type ever?
nope
Nah it's Shedinja
>>26468837
>Prankster Snatch
>Prankster Destiny Bond
>Prankster Mirror Coat
>Big attack stat
>Nice bulk
>>26468837
>disliking mindgames puppet
Not the best Mega out there but it's still pretty fun to use
I was always meh with the Dus family but Mystery Dungeon portrayed Dusknoir in a pretty good way. I sort of like it I guess after that.
>>26468837
Awful taste.
>>26468693
Lol, are you kidding? Dusclops was only better in Gen 5. Now with Knock Off running rampant, Dusknoir has a better viability ranking than Dusclops. They are bad overall but Dusknoir is certainly better in battle.
>>26468837
>One of the best-looking megas
>Good ability and moveset
>Is frail as all Hell
Why
>>26468933
>>26468693
As for the design, you can like whatever you like most, theres no consistent theme in the line anyways.
>>26468934
Max HP max Attack is usually all you need since you get prankster and can keep priority with Shadow Sneak.
>>26468934
prankster destiny bond is why
>>26468693
>Overdesigned garbage that ruons Dusclops
It's okay since Dusclops already ruined Duskull
No fucking STAB
at least Aegislash can go special so he has a ghost move to use. Dusknoir doesn't.
give it shadow sneak, phantom force, boost shadow punch power
>>26469172
B-but Shadow Punch ;-;
Fuck Shadow Punch and Phantom Force. Just make a new 90BP physical Ghost move with as much as universal compatible as Shadow Ball instead of a bite/punch which just limits distribution. Grass already had a 90BP physical move in Leaf Blade and they went and made Petal Blizzard this generation.
>>26468693
You know, I have always really liked Dusclops since the RSE days, and Dusknoir is perfect for me since the momment that I saw it, /vp/ is the only place that I see this pokemon being bashed.
>>26468693
>Overdesigned
oh you were just memeing i got it OP
>>26469248
>make petal blizzard physical
>give it exclusively to special attackers
for what purpose?
>>26468881
>Prankster Snatch
Snatch is already +4, moron
Why use anyone in that line when you have this guy?
>It is said to take lost spirits into its pliant body and guide them home.
Even if Dusknoir is shit in battle, it's still a bro that helps others.
>Be Physical Ghost-type
>Doesn't get Phantom Force
>>26468693
>overdesigned
???????????????????????
>extremely slow tank with low HP
>no reliable recovery moves
>no STAB
What were they thinking?
As a Dusclops fan, I'm thankful for Dusknoir because I get to put Eviolite on 'Clops now. But yeah, he's hideous.
>>26469609
Too bad Duskclops is weak to knock off. God give it god take it
>>26469601
that they'll buff it in Gen 7I hope