does anyone even disagree that this was the best region design in the entire franchise?
>>26435809
I wanted to like it but it has the worst desert placement of all time
they made it marginally better in B2W2 by adding a paved road and join avenue but even then it looks out of place
It was the good kind of linear. Side areas and rotues that were fleshed out at the loss of exploration is fine by me
it's a fucking DIAMOND
Sinnoh and Hoenn are by far the best
>>26435809
Too much linearity is boring.
B2W2 didn't fix it as well as it could've.
Ugly region in general.
Bridges were nice, but that's it.
>>26435852
Hoenn isn't the best anything.
>>26435875
The region is better than Unova at least.
I live in NY and the starting town was roughly equivalent to my neighborhood, so I will always be biased by loving Unova.
But if I'm trying to remain objective I wouldn't say its the best design.
>>26435863
>>26435848
This. I looked cool but then i found I was just following a single path like a god damned subway line.
>>26435840
2nd worst. Pic related.
>>26435809
It was a terrible region based on a shitty country
The region is the second reason why Gen V is the worst gen after the pokemon designs
>>26435809
Maybe if it wasn't for the huge amount of caves.
>>26436723
>Gen VI
FTFY
Even fits in with your first sentence.
>>26436723
t. angry contrarian foreign fag
Fuck no
>>26435875
Best region and route design. Easily.
>>26435930
This, nyfag here, Unova best region, not necessarily best gen.
>jk it is best gen
>>26435809
Yes, it was all over the fucking place and was actually completely linear despite the impression it gives.
Also
>Not getting a fucking rod until the post game
Unova is the best region. Anyone who disagrees is a filthy foreigner communist. USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>26437309
>Gen III
>Best region and route design. Easily.
Christ.
>>26435809
I loved the region and the linearity was nice after the annoying clusterfuck that was Sinnoh. It also didn't require you to use a combination of HMs to explore it. It's my favorite region tied with Hoenn.
>>26435809
There is no best Pokémon region in franchise.
I always liked the layout of Kanto and how you progressed through the game. It was a good full circle with a few choices in the middle.
>>26437340
Good job posting a route that's not in Hoenn, idiot.
>>26435809
People do, but I sure as hell don't. Unova the best.
>>26435809
>itt people complaining about linearity in a Pokémon game.
There has always been linearity in these games. RGBY were easily exploitable, but you need to go through a lot of effort to skip certain gyms. GSC were the only games with real open endedness and it was a clusterfuck of bad level scaling. I would say that Unova's biggest con is that the Entra-Link forest now serves no purpose without DreamWorld/online. There's that big center point that seems important, but now is just there reminding you that BW online is dead.
>>26435979
>quoting others without even reading what they said
Try reading >>26435848 once more.
>Gen V
>Best anything
Unova is literally the worst region. I'll never understand why the fedoras here on /vp/ have such a hard on for what is quite frankly the worst generation to date.
>>26437502
Retart jelly yuropoor detected
>>26437426
That matters how? It's a Gen 3 route created specifically during Gen 3.
>>26437502
>durr Gen V is contrarian
>Most critically acclaimed Gen
>More sales than XY
>BW2 sold more than Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum
>>26437502
>Unova is literally the worst region. I'll never understand why the fedoras here on /vp/ have such a hard on for what is quite frankly the worst generation to date.
Nationalistic amerifats, literally
I'm sure that on French website they suck off Gen VI and that Hawaiians will have Gen VII as their favorite even if its garbage
>>26437576
>>26437589
Why'd you delete your post?
>>26437589
for what reason
>>26437582
>Most critically acclaimed Gen
On /vp/ maybe, but everywhere else it's seen as the worst
>More sales than XY
Literally false
>>26435809
>best
it's not
but region was at least one of the redeeming parts of gen 5
>>26437452
I could listen to Village Bridge all day. One off the best parts of B/W.
>>26437596
>>26437607
Because I accidentally wrote Gen VI twice instead of Gen VII, sperglord
Not my fault if faggot m00t thought it was a good idea to force you to wait a minute before being able to correct your post so every retard has already replied to it and pointed the typo
>>26437611
>On /vp/ maybe, but everywhere else it's seen as the worst
Why do you keep saying this? You realize Gen 5 gets the most hate on /vp/ more than anywhere right?
Gen 5 is the only Gen with perfect review scores.
>Literally false
Hold on, I'll reply again proving you wrong in a second.
>That image
You really are just one big lying faggot aren't you? http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/pokemon-black-version
I bet you haven't even played a Gen 5 game in your life.
>>26437626
>Calling others retard for his own stupidity.
>>26437626
It's so people can look upon your mistakes and laugh at them before you can turn your head in sad shame.
>>26437611
>Literally false
Would love to see your nonexistent source that says otherwise.
>>26437639
>opposing BW and BW2 combined to only XY
XY raped BW and BW2 individually
>>26437611
>Y on top
>platinum lower than diamond
>>26437656
Are you blind? It lists them all individually.
>>26437656
Can you read
Black and White by itself beat out X&Y for units sold
>>26437680
His list is fake, moron. That's a shooped image that denialfags use when they can't accept the fact that the games they so desperately think are "shit" are actually really well received.
>>26437680
This proves once again /vp/'s shit taste
>>26437628
>You realize Gen 5 gets the most hate on /vp/ more than anywhere right?
Bullshit. Only Reddit newfag scum hates Gen 5
>>26437571
The anon you were replying to was talking specifically about Hoenn though, not Kanto or the Sevii Islands. And he's right, Hoenn has some GOAT routes.
>>26437748
Yeah you're so right dude, diamond and pearl were so much better without any fire types and all the backtracking for ghost bitch
>>26437778
>bitch
Woah, babby's first curse word?
>>26437611
>metacritic
>accurate to anything
pick one, faggot
>>26437798
Those
Scores
Are
Fake
Literally see >>26437746 >>26437628
>>26437776
That route looks like convoluted horse shit.
>>26437821
It's not though. It's very straightforward, but with numerous side areas.
>>26437837
>It's not though. It's very straightforward, but with numerous side areas.
Oh, nice! Sounds familiar.
>>26437848
The route, not the entire fucking region.
>>26437611
Black and Emerald are swapped
kek
>>26435809
Disgusting.
Sinnoh has worst games, but best region.
>>26437900
I feel I'm the only one who appreciated Mt. Coronet being the heart of the region. Having to pass through it was always a reminder of how far I've gotten. Plus I just really love exploring caves. Best Snow areas as well. The marshes were also interesting to get through. Sinnoh made the travel feel like an actual adventure.
sinnoh > the rest
>>26439019
I wish Sinnoh had more snow. I've never even seen snow and so I like having it in games.
>>26438434
Yeah. Something about it made it feel like a sort of anchor to the rest of the region's design. A center area everything could be modeled around. It felt BIG, and like you were on a grand journey.
>>26439019
Right on anon
>>26438434
It would've been neat for there to be a town in it.
I've always liked the idea since Mt Moon in GSC.
>>26439094
A modest town of Spear Pillar Guardians would be fucking rad.
>>26437776
I started disliking Hoenn after Unova. That route you posted just makes no sense: small sides here and there (not much space to walk around), the river is not completely passable because of the fucking bicycle bridge that also makes no sense. Also the graphics in Hoenn and Kanto (remakes) always felt so boring (textures are repeated way more than in the nintendo DS titles.
>>26437776
I love Hoenn with a passion but all those little enclaves weren't good for shit except Secret Bases which I give little of a shit about.
>>26437872
>this route is great because it's straightforward, but with numerous side areas
>oh, just like unova
>the route, not the entire fucking region
So you're saying that all of Unova is great, while Hoenn isn't?
>>26435809
Retardedly linear which also made the routes linear and boring.
>>26435809
the biomes make no sense
Why are there ancient ruins next to Manhattan? Why haven't they been excavated? Why is there a desert with sandstorms next to a forest?
Worse than that is that the Town Map gives next to no information of where anything is.
>>26440064
>the region is linear which makes the routes linear
The average intelligence of anti-gen-v-fags, everyone.
>>26440155
>manhattan
This is a fictional world. There is no Manhattan.
>why haven't they been excavated
There are numerous people present at the Relic Castle. They have begun the excavation process.
>why is there a desert with sandstorms next to a forest?
There isn't.
>>26440579
the world map is too linear which allows/causes the routes to be too linear. if you weren't a retarded gen 5 kid you might have understood the idea obviously being expressed
Unova's route design is great, not the best, but great. My problem is that it's too linear.
Unova
>Go to A,B,C,D
Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh
>Go to A,C,D,A,E,I,B,C,T,F,I,Q,D
At least BW2 fixed it, well kind of.
>>26440631
You dont understand how routes work, do you?
>>26439676
>old games are ugly
>new games on better hardware look better
Jesus, how old are people on this board?
GBA games had limited hardware and memory obviously they're going to have to repeat textures to meet limitations
>>26440656
All the other games were just as linear as Unova in terms of story and order of events, they just weren't geographically linear. The only pokemon game you can do things out of order to a significant degree is gen II and it's worse for it. You had to do everything in a strictly determined and linear order, just sometimes you backtracked to a location you'd already been to instead of constantly progressing like in Unova.
>>26440155
Because its a video game
>>26440064
Unova has the most side paths out of every game.
>>26440631
>this collection of routes is too linear which causes individual routes to be too linear
A-plus work, big guy. In other news, water's wet.
In actuality, however, Gen V's routes are riddled with secrets. Mistralton Cave? Challenger's Cave? Lostlorn Forest? All of the hidden spots of Pinwheel Forest? Dreamyard's basement? Route 2's western section that leads to that enormous water route with Larvesta and P2 Lab? Resort Desert? Numerous off-the-beaten-path strength puzzles? Wellspring Cave's basement? Twist Mountain's caves? Clay Road? Relic Passage? Castelia Sewers? All of the Moor of Icirrus, a massive, entirely optional area? Pretty much all of eastern Unova? All that post-game area of both sets of games? Those absolutely massive Victory Roads?
You aren't trying hard enough.
>>26440656
You like backtracking? Well, good for you, because BW has that, too, right after Dragonspiral Tower. Also, you have to go to Celestial Tower before battling Skyla.
>>26435809
it was the worst region ever
best region design is Sinnoh
>>26439060
>Platinum
>>26437778
>backtracking
What, did you not have Fly? How much of a complete fucking casual can you be?
>>26439060
Sucks for you, dude. Where do you live?
>>26436723
>Being so salty towards Americans you even hate the physical land itself
wew
>>26437502
Gen V was great for the sole reason it forced you to use new pokemon. Really wish I played it blind, and I'm hoping Sun and Moon return the V's idea
>>26435809
to straight forward for my taste. BW2 did it a bit better.
>>26437309
to much water.
>>26440951
the more you interact with what's already given to you, the better cohesiveness the region has.
this was well established with red and blue. it's a shame it's rarely used any more.
it worked best with an urban region but each game seems to want to explore too many new themes to keep it simple.
not that it can't be done, but if history has shown us anything is that gamefreak values gimmicks more than traditions.
This is a troll thread right? Unova is fucking awful.
>>26445006
Kanto is literally the worst reason though.
>>26437502
>gen v
>acclaimed
What? Gen 1 and 2 were acclaimed, 3 was shit on, 4 started off shit on until Platinum and HG/SS made it a renaissance for the series before it fell back to hell again with B/W.
>post deleted by mods for telling an undertale fag to go back to /v/
>got banned a few days ago for posting a thread about how stupid owlfags and 6.5ers were, rule cited: don't start genwars
>AND YET, blatant genbait threads like this are allowed to exist
Yes, I am salty. To think there are people here who actually believe the janitors AREN'T pushing an agenda
>>26435852
But....
Diamonds are unbreakable!
black white is fucking trash
>>26440951
Backtracking is not bad if you are unlocking new areas and rewards to explore, and thats what backtracking in b/w did.
>>26445959
Your b/w is bad neme will never catch on dude, your worse than the ds2 is bad autist
>>26446208
What? I never even said anything about Black and White being bad. Did you quote the wrong person
>>26435979
But that route wasn't a desert. It's literally called a badland, and it has an in game reason of too much irrigation. There isn't even sand anywhere. Compared to the snowy mountains bordering the swamps in later routes, this is pretty well thought out. I don't understand why people keep calling it a desert and out of place. Sure, there's greenery to the north of it, but that's just because that part wasn't used all up for farming.
