>We will never see the original dragon
>It will never come in and make Mega Rayquaza look weak in terms of stat distribution
>It will never be a being so disgustingly powerful it surpasses Arceus in lore and matches Zeedmillenniummon
J U S T
Are you implying this pokemon could end the universe
>>26435459
No as we know nothing about it but I'd like it to be able to.
>>26435447
Canonically, Mega Rayquaza is not the strongest Pokémon.
BST are non-canon and it is not a part of Pokémon lore.
>>26435491
I know that, I meant in terms of metagame.
I know Arceus is the strongest in lore.
>>26435491
We don't care. Shut the fuck up Richard. Go away. Lore isn't what we're talking about.
>>26435530
Actually I was talking about both lore and ingame stat distribution.
I'd want this fucking beast of a Pokemon to be one of the strongest things ever both canonically and ingame.
>>26435519
Arceus isn't the strongest.
>>26435583
then what is, Richard?
>>26435530
The original dragon is part of Pokémon lore.
>>26435591
I don't know but it is not Arceus, Mewtwo, Mega Rayquaza, Kyogre, Groudon and etc.
>>26435605
>I don't know who
Then how do you know it's not Arceus?
>>26435591
Who is this Richard faggot?
>>26435491
Yes it is. Someone in ORAS mentions Megafug could surpass the creator in terms of power or something like that.
>>26435613
Lurk moar
>>26435617
I've never heard about this before, I'm going to need you to provide some backing.
>>26435633
I've lurked here for ages and only now am I seeing this Richard name everywhere.
It's reminding me of Scott.
>>26435645
I think it was during delta episode, probably one of the scientist or someone from meteor falls.
>>26435645
It doesn't matter how long you've been coming here, faggot. If you don't understand something, lurk moar and try to figure it out.
>>26435617
>>26435660
They never mentioned Arceus or referenced it in any way whatsoever. Stop spreading lies.
>>26435778
They didn't mention Arceus but they implied they were walking about it.
>Kyurem's best feat is freezing a city, and that's only with a weapon painfully using it as a battery
Lore-wise, you could combine all three and the Original Dragon wouldn't even be a strong as Groudon or Kyogre.
"Surpassing Arceus" is a funny joke though.
>>26435447
Anyone else hate how all the fan art of the original dragon just mashes all their features together? it shouldn't be a fusion, it should be a cohesive, stand-alone design.
>>26436149
Yeah. Reshiram is clearly meant to seem organic and Zekrom is meant to appear inorganic (to an extent). I really, the original would be somee middle ground. Would it just be pure dragon though?
>>26436202
It would probably be pure dragon with mold breaker or a special snowflake ability that powers up Fire, Electric and ice-type moves
it's boring but thematic
>>26436202
It should be pure dragon, I feel.
The extra typings are an emergent property of being separated rather than part of the original dragon's identity.
Kyurem becomes part ice because it is the cold empty husk.
Zekrom becomes electric because it is the spark of productivity and hope that ideals allow you to have.
Reshiram is fire because the truth can ignite our hearts and hope but also burn them alway.
Either that, or the original dragon was plasma based and electric and fire are components of that plasma.
>>26435447
>tfw B2/W2 were just GF getting greedy for more money
>tfw GF will never finish PERFECTION
Why Gen5fags still delusional?
>>26436111
The original dragon was an Ayylien.
So it most likely was an equal to Groudon or Kyogre.
But clearly, Ayyrceus fucked it up.
>>26435447
>Implying we will not battle it for the future of the humans in the pokemon world. As all pokemon, except our unconditional bros, unite against the humanity, moved by Team Plasma's technology and intentions in the Pokémon B/W remakes.
End yourself.
>>26435447
>no gs ball
>no azure flute
>no original dragon
>no zygarde forms
>no ash greninja
they just do not care
>>26436111
Base Stats are not part of Pokémon lore.
It's only a battle mechanic.
Arceus is not omnipotent.
>>26436425
But the PokéDex is? All right, here's multiple references of it saying that it shaped the universe on it's own. If that's not omnipotent to you then you're mentally retarded.
>>26436425
>Groudon: moves continents
>Kyogre: creates water
>Rayquaza: fucks around in the stratosphere
>Mewtwo: is a biological weapon
meanwhile
>Arceus: created the universe
I have no idea how you could claim any legendary is stronger lore-wise
>>26436287(you)
>>26436465
The Pokédex doesn't say Arceus is omnipotent being or nor does it says Arceus have infinite energy.
>>26435613
Some retard trying to force a bogeyman.
>>26436457
You are retarded. just because something caused else something come into doesn't mean it's omnipotent.
Look up " the meaning of omnipotent" please.
>>26436534
I'm not arguing that it's omnipotent, I'm arguing that it's the strongest legendary
>>26436457
define "omnipotent"
>>26436457
>in mythology
>in mythology
>it is said
>according to the legends
>it is said
>it is said
>according to the legends
>in mythology
>according to the legends
>in mythology
>>26436552
Canonically?
The strongest Legendary Pokémon?
No. The Pokédex never said that Arceus was the strongest Pokémon.
>>26436565
except you literally see it create a dialga, palkia and/or giratina and we know for a fact that any one of those three has the power to reshape the universe in in-game canon
>>26436565
Everything in the Pokédex is true.
>>26436583
And Giratina have much power as Dialga and Palkia.
>>26436552
DPP's plates heavily implied that the current Arcues is nowhere near as powerful as it originally was, because it dumped a lot of its power into the plates so that other Pokemon could share its power.
How would you feel if the Original Dragon turned out to be stronger than Arceus and even more powerful than Zeedmilleniummon and Pokémon became stronger than Digimon by virtue of one majorly overpowered god tier?
>>26436565
Yeah... I've always wondered how many and which of the myths and legends about legendaries are actually %100 true and how many and which of them are just, well, myths and legends. I don't think the Pokemon world is exempt from myths being changed and screwed with over time like real life.
>>26436656
Yeah and That prove that Arceus was never omnipotent.
A being with infinite energy can't take away It's infinite energy.
Victini have infinite energy.
>>26436565
All the Myths and theories in the Pokémon Universe.
Are 100% true.
>>26436425
Omnipotence isn't needed to shit on every other legendary.Sinnoh was a mistake.
>>26436149
Why does Black/White Kyruem even exist? They're not the original dragon, what was the point in even having them? Was it there just to tell us that Team Plasma were fucking idiots who didn't know what they were doing, so they ended up making incomplete fusions?
>>26437394
Arceus is sleeping.
It have no interest in pooping on anything.
>>26437467
i was hoping that they'd add the original dragon in gen 6 but c'est la vie
>>26435447
>yfw it's a Primal
>Implying it won't be in the remakes/sequels of BW/B2W2
>>26439778
they'll do it when they add fusions desu
>>26436273
Team Plasma yo
>>26435591
Swarm of Unown?
>>26441295
Nope.
Don't worry when Ash gets to the Kalos league Tobias will come out of nowhere and wreck Ash with it
>>26436562
>define "omnipotent"
>Arceus (Pokémon Conquest)
>Ability: Omnipotent
>"The Pokémon has several different Abilities and can inflict damage upon Pokémon of all types."
>Several different Abilities includes climbing, evasion and regenerating health
I wish I could skin Richard alive and bury him up to his neck next to an anthill.
>>26436465
>Groudon: moves continents
>Kyogre: creates water
More like their combined power created land and sea. The big man here did all the heavy lifting.
>>26436845
Who would win:
Victini, a being with unlimited energy, or Kirby, a being with infinite power?
>It's a MUH ORIGINAL DRAGON episode
>it's a Richard injects himself into an argument episode
>It's a WE WANT AS MANY SEQUELS AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE NO MATTER HOW SHIT THEY WOULD BE episode
>>26442938
>that feel when Regigigas is my favorite pokemon, but he's unpopular and really shit
>Dragon/Steel to forge ideals, truth, and ambition into a reality
>Ability: Willpower, acts as both Mold Breaker and Filter
>125/130/150/70/150/125
>Signature Moves:
Iron Will, Steel-type Recover that boosts Def and SpD for the turn
Fusion Strike, 100BP/95/Acc/5PP, dual Electric/Fire, increased flinch and crit chance
Powerful enough to ruin Mega Fug's day? I think so, and maybe even more powerful than that.
>>26443005
You are not battle wise.
>>26442997
Canonically?
Victini.
Victini always win.
>>26441470
Non-canon Pokémon series.
:|
>>26436465
Inaccurate.
Groudon created the lands.
>>26436396
>>no gs ball
That was a Japan event.
>>no azure flute
Complexity, no defense though.
>>no original dragon
That was just lore.
>>no zygarde forms
This one their pushing so they're going to do something with it. Turns out Perfect Zygarde's even being involved with the Magearna movie.
>>no ash greninja
This one was stated as anime only. Hard to really believe though because of how it's everywhere.
Not only that, but we'll never see an unmodified Genesect.
And don't you fuckers post a Kabutops.
>>26443187
That really doesn't look all that impressive at all.
It's straight up not even as good as regular Kyurem White or Black because it's defensive for some reason. It's basically a Mega Dialga, but worst since at least M-Dialga will have usable attack stats enough to draco meteor something to death.
>>26441551
When and how did the name Richard get applied to that pokedex spambot?
I'm already missing the archive. If only fgts hadn't been retarded enough to record /b/...
