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Defend this
>>26423271
It's for fugging not fighting
>>26423271
Okay.
It's a neat design and concept, and not every Pokemon has to be competitively viable to be worthy of existence.
Wow! A slow, tanky ice type? I've never seen one of those before.
Rock types literally aren't allowed to have high speed or special attack.
>>26423271
I can't, that's the worst stat-spread I've ever seen
at least it could be good on a trick room team in doubles?
I won't, I hate that abortion.
Not every pokemon needs to have good stats.
That being said an Ice/Electric mega would be cool as shit.
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Its counterpart is one of the best fossils we've had.
>>26423271
They're removing 4x weakness in gen 7 and had to make it shit so it won't be op then.
>>26423325
I don't mind the idea that types have to roughly fit an archetype but I wish Gamefreak would rebalance the types so ones like rock or ice that are shoehorned as generally defensive are actually fucking defensive types. But if they didn't do it during XY as they introduced a whole new type I doubt they'll do it now.
>>26423271
It has a niche on hail teams for having different (well, mostly different) counters r=than Abomasnow.
If only hail teams were popular enough that people began running counters to them, this guy might see the day.
>>26423344
>Not every pokemon needs to have good stats
true but in this case it would have been totally justified
>>26423280
This
>>26423271
>supposed to be tanky
>has the worst possible defensive typing
How is rock the defensive typing again?
It has a pretty nice cry
>>26423271
>Defensive mon with shitty types
>No solid rock /filter as abilities
Really GF ?
>>26423271
It has a good design.
>>26423271
It's not PU, at least.
I guess it could do ok in a Trick Room as a special attacker.
Needs to attack first tho
>>26423280
No, you're thinking about Tyrantrum.
>>26423471
You know, speaking of. Wasn't/isn't trick room hail a well known VGC team archetype? Maybe it was made for that and failed miserably to Abomasnow
>>26423373
For rock, it's more that the type was created when most pokemon had shit coverage and most of them would have normal move, so it made sense to make defensive rock type back then. But after that they gave pokemon better coverage and didn't bother to change their pokemon design because when people think "rock" they think something massive,durable and immobile.
>>26423471
It would get fucking demolished by a good chunk of NU though.
>>26423352
And they gave it a godawful ability to nerf it from its inception.
>>26423427
>It has a good design.
>>26423547
I doubt it would be able to live long enough for that ability to kick in. Even if it get poisoned or hit by a a weak move, couldn't you just roost when the opponent switches out?
>>26423271
Pokémon BST mechanics are not part of Pokémon lore.
>>26423325
Aerodatctyl?
>>26423624
>autism
>>26423271
It isn't PU like every peopke thought
if they gave it a mega with higher defenses and a bit more special attack, filter or solid rock as an ability, and a reliable recovery move, it'd be decent, UU at best.
i also agree not every pokemon needs to be competitively viable for it to be enjoyable. its a nicely designed mon that just had the misfortune of having a bad defensive typing, but there seriously are worse pokemon out there.
>>26423353
>>26423353
>one of the best
What's the best?
>>26423701
Aerodactyl?
>>26423271
>Freeze-Dry
>Refrigerate Hyper Voice
>More Base HP than Arceus
Also very cute.
>>26423701
>>26423701
Rampardos
Favourite ice type and favourite fossil. Really don't care if it's competitively viable or not, it's got a great design. Wish it learned Power Gem though.
>>26423271
It's actually not that bad from a lower tier standpoint. There's worse Pokemon out there, and unlike, say, Sunflora or Heatmor, it can pull its weight with Scarf, Specs, and Rock Polish.
Shitty defensive typing, sure, but either ability + good offensive typing ensures it'll pull its weight if you're not stupid and switch it in to powerful coverage attacks. There's a reason it's NU with an RU analysis rather than PU.
Also if you don't kill it in Battle Maison immediately, it pretty much snipes you with Life Orb Refrigerate Hyper Beam and that's totally not cool for slower Trick Room sweepers.
should've been fairy rock
>>26423271
You picked the wrong fossil and are paying the price.
>>26423830
>Aurorus is covered in ice-diamonds, can't learn power gem
>Ampharos, has 2 "gems" on the head and tail, not even a rock type, can learn power gem
I hate Game Freak sometimes.
>>26423860
>sometimes
>>26423701Relicanth.
>>26423292
you're retarded
>>26423677
you using it wrong
>>26423701
Cradily obviously
>>26423595
We need a rock version of U-turn to even make Archeops viable
>>26423271
>bulky as fuck
>100 SpAtk
>great moves, only missing Power Gem
>absolutely beautiful design
It's fine, not evey pokemon is made for competitive. This is a great mon.
>>26424059
>bulky as fuck
Means nothing when you're getting hit for x2 damage by everything.
