ill start
>98 spe
not even good enough for 100
you want to talk about speed then get a load of possible sweeper that got fucked up with 70 bst speed. My poor son ;-;
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>>26376036
>Mega Pidgeot's ability: No Guard
>Moves affected with it: Hurricane
>Meanwhile those Rock Slides and Stone Edges will never miss
>It also received the least increase on stats when going mega, with 5 points wasted on Def.
Haxorus has base 97. You can fuck DIRECTLY off.
>>26376069
If it weren't because it is both slow and frail it will be UU thanks to Intimidate and Guts. It is also the only Electric-type that doesn't relies on HP Ice for an Ice-type move because it can learn the otherwise weak Ice Fang
>20 Speed
He gets Shell Smash and can't even use it properly. He's in my top 3 Bros of all time. If they give him a mega with Simple I would freak the fuck out. It wouldnt even be that OP because of the lack of White Herb.
>>26376150
max defense max hp luxray is pretty good tho so frail, no. Just crappy as hell speed
>>26376113
>tfw baton passing to Mega-Pidgeot
There's a lot of satisfying mons to pass to but M-Pidgeot is up at the very top of that list.
>>26376157
I like this idea a lot. I also wouldnt mind if they made it a defensive fire/water
>>26376157
It needs contrary for that contrary shell smash.
>>26376193
Aw man if I could have a M-Torkoal with Steam Eruption I would literally never have it out of my team. At the very least give him Scald. He's the fucking steam pokemon!
You're getting me all hyped anon.
>Fucking Pikachu got Icicle crash before he did
Gentlemen, how do we fix Kyurem Black?
>>26376203
He's already a defensive mon, at least let him have some attack power!
Simple works better because if you Shell Smash you're dropping his defense completely for maximized speed and attack.
Or you could run Curse, I think he learns it. That could work too.
>>26376237
Its actually well enough with Ice Beam
If anything, give it Superpower
>>26376138
>DD lum berry
Fuck off m8, haxorus is still good
>>26376138
>Access to DDance
Haxorus is fine. The main issue with it is that it is very one-dimensional when compared to other top dragons.
>>26376138
Haxorus has DD
Haxorus is not walled by every Fairy or has to rely on 75% Iron Tail
Sceptile.
>>26376442
Grass/Dragon was a mistake.
Should've been fucking Grass/Dark with Tough Claws.
King Cuck coming through. Do I even need to say why?
>those HP, defense and speed
>>26376069
>70 bst speed
>bst speed
What when you give a Pokemon defensive stats but pair it with two of the worst types defensively? You get Aurorus. Fuck you, GameFreak.
>>26376036
>3 heads
>Doesn't get Iron Head
>>26376839
funny how rock, wich sounds like a really hard and resistant type, is one of the worst defensively
>>26376093
>base 99
FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE
As soon as Garchomp came about.
>>26376036
>Destroyed by the uncounterable fairies
The ultimate Pokemon cuck.
>>26376347
He's walled by the only Fairy that matters in UU. A max Def Florges can eat a Poison Jab, even a +1 Poison Jab, and return a OHKO with Moonblast. And you can't even use him as an anti-Dragon since even at +1 Speed, he gets outpaced by Scarf Hydreigon and Salamence. He may have DD, but he's still the worst UU dragon.
>>26376483
>Tough Claws
>On a Special Attacker
>>26376179
why?
>>26378797
Coulda had a different stat set. I use base Sceptile as a physical attacker a lot. Lum Unburden Swords Dance is surprisingly effective. Hard walled by Rotom-H, but a good surprise lategame sweeper.
>>26376494
Yes actually
>>26376157
>He gets Shell Smash and can't even use it properly.
It's so slow you could legitimately use Shell Smash and undercut nearly every non-Gyro Ball/Trick Room user if you wanted to
>>26378797
Grass Knot makes contact
>>26376203
Torkoal also gets Superpower and Overheat if thats your thing
>>26376150
Electivire learns Ice Punch.
>>26376839
This. Aurorus is suffering.
>>26378782
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Mold Breaker Haxorus Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Florges: 341-403 (94.7 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
>walled by Florges
also Sylveon is a fairy that matters in UU now as well as Whimsicott
please dont say stupid things again
>>26379878
>life orb
Nigga, if you aren't running Lum on Haxorus, you're literally pleading, on hands and knees, with the opponent's zipper in your teeth, to get Willo'd or T-Waved. By all fucking means, run LO on Haxorus. See what happens.
Mind you, I DID forget about the Sylveon drop. Haven't popped on Showdown in a couple days. I'm sure Haxorus is quite good against Gay Eevee.
>>26380485
LO is a perfectly viable alternative. Stop saying idiotic things, what did I tell you.
How is Florges good against Haxorus but Sylveon isnt? Sylveon has been dropped for two weeks now by the way.
Im starting to think you dont know what you're talking about.
>>26376036
Because he TOTALLY needed that RANDOM xDDDD 2 point increase in HP right hahahayeah, fuck, I'm salty about it too. Literally who though that was a good idea
>all those pokemon at 100 base speed
>>26377040
This is NOT true.
Learn movesets moron.
>>26376113
Focus Blast was literally all it needed. Everything and thier mom gets it and it would give it some sweet coverage but it just had to stay shit.
>>26378821
And that´s just it. M-Sceptile should have been physical, saving it from getting fucked out of its signiture move by the phys/spec split.
Now, if you can get an Unburden and Sword Dance of on regular Scep, he's now WAY faster and stronger than his Mega could be. Its fucking garbage.
>>26376093
Why do people think Zygarde forms won't be in SM?
>>26380485
>>26380601
Just to chime in, you can actually get away with running jolly choice band.
outrage
dragon claw/rockmove
poison jab
earthquake
works well like 100 percent of the time
>>26381336
Movesets have nothing to do with it. Garchomp does literally everything Flygon does, but better, aside from not taking Spikes damage and Flygon's niche of being able to U-Turn out to a less terrible teammate.
>>26377040
Pokemon getting outclassed over time happens all the time, I'm not sure why people only ever point out to Flygon
>Durant
ONE MORE, GF
YOU JUST COULDNT GIVE THIS COOL FUCKING ANT ONE MORE POINT
>>26381651
On topic:
>Heatmor
>>26378750
I will never understand the Raichu persecution complex.
If Pikachu was never made the mascot, Raichu would basically still just be a regular electric type like Electrabuzz or Ampharos. It is not really "cucked" out of anything by being Pikachu's evo.
>>26376036
Doesn't it have the highest Sp.Atk out of ALL pokemon?
>>26381841
>light ball
It's the only Pokemon (aside from perhaps Blissey) worse than its prevo.
>>26376619
Never mind Flareon, how about Glaceon?
>Great SpA
>Good Def but horrible HP and defensive typing to back it up
>65 Spd
If they'd swapped Spd and Def it'd have been great, but GF just keeps cucking ice types constantly.
>>26381887
No it isn't lol
Raichu found its way into numerous winning teams in the official competitive format. Yes, even the current Primal infested one.
Pikachu is so bad you get excluded out of smogon' usage stats if you use one in your team
![250px-283Surskit[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/sg20kcw.png "250px-283Surskit[1].png")
THE KING OF KEKS IS HERE
>>26381939
13 years later, I'm still mad. Not only at the typing but the design of its evolution as well. I genuinely though I'd be getting a cool Bug/Water spider, but I ended up with a Butterfree/Venomoth rip off instead.
>>26381868
Not by a long shot. It has 125 so it's beaten by several legendaries and megas, Aegislash, Chandelure, Zen Darmanitan, Alakazam, Porygon-Z, Volcarona, Gengar, Espeon, Glaceon and probably a few others.
>>26381963
Since when?
I looked it up 2-3 years ago and bulbacidia said it was the best.
>>26381984
Out of the pseudo-legendaries.
>>26381984
Except for the megas, all the mons that anon listen existed 2-3 years ago as well. You must have read wrong.
Its still a solid mon with some Choice Specs on though.
>>26381993
Why the fuck have I been running him as a major part of my team for the last 2 years?
this is your fault. fix this.
>>26378844
>special attacker
>moxie
bravo john gamefreak
>>26382002
Well, its solid SpA is taken full advantage of by the fact that it can hit almost anything for super effective damage.
>>26376619
my flareon is unstoppable, yall are scrubs for not knowing how to use basic eeveelutions.
>>26381508
he still got cucked out of a game
>>26382064
>Not keeping your Eevee's unevolved.
I just beat Elite 4 with a team of 6 eevee's
100+ speed would make it OP, they learned their mistake from Garchomp
>>26378810
Because nothing stops a shell smash passed into M-Pidgeot. +2 Hurricane absolutely rapes rapes.
He's just a fun sweeper.
