Friendly reminder to not discredit leaks because they probably, are in fact, real.
Good job selectively remembering only the real leaks. And Greninja came from a review copy, not out of nowhere a few days after the starters were first revealed.
>>26371073
I want Ballio to be real.
I feel like people aren't using ACTUAL existing artwork to compare the final evolutions, but I think I may be onto something here.
I'll post something to make you see what I mean.
>>26371073
Then you have people parading around making like they're real because "you can't discredit it". Innocent until proven guilty is largely a misnomer. The principle is that you cannot assume something without evidence. Neither position is to be defaulted to one way or the other. Basically, it's a pointless debate. No side is really favorable, that is if evidence does indeed not exist. Legally, we would have to have it verified by an official source. Until then, it is neither real or fake.
>>26371320
Okay, so I suddenly remembered about the alternative artwork the starters actually had.
It may not be nothing, but at least, it's something.
>>26371409
Schrodingers cat
The current leaks are fake because it's too early. We've still got another six months before Sun/Moon even releases.
With BW and XY, the starter evolutions didn't leak until close to release.
>>26371412
Oh and I didn't had any image of the Litten evolution, so I had to take that off from someone else's image, which was scribbled.
>>26371442
Luckily I saved it for porn reference in case it ends up not being real, so here.
Ummm...I don't know what this is supposed to be proving. Please clarify?
>>26371423
Leaks are not releases, Leaks are things that slip out at the wrong time, there is no set period.
Leaks have came out just because some guy visited the company and snuck a few picks when he found himself clear.
No saying they're real, but saying it is too early is not a point.
>>26371465
Thanks, amigo.
And I'm not exactly implying anything, but this could be a major point where it can either indicate from where Game Freak inspired themselves or from where a possible fake leak faker could have inspired himself/herself from.
It's just that some people might forget about these alt. artworks.
>>26371594
The only one that doesn't make sense in that aspect is the grass one. It is in no way borrowing the same design mentality as Rowlet.
>>26371073
>Not allowed to be skeptical—especially in the face of no hard evidence—simply because they COULD be real.
Just because it can't be discredited doesn't mean it's worth the time of day. Until it's confirmed, why give a shit? Fuck leak season.
>>26371698
>Just because it can't be discredited doesn't mean it's worth the time of day.
That's the right attitude. Far too many people are trying to "disprove" with flimsy bullshit.
>>26371632
That may be true, but we might be looking at another Torchic > Blaziken ordeal.
And considering that the only bird pokemon starters ended up being bipedal in their final evolutions (the other one being Piplup > Empoleon), there might be a small chance that Rowlet may become the third one to complete the whole trio type (Grass bird to join Fire type and Water type bird starters).
>>26371594
This proofs it's fake.
>>26371632
Rowlet's feathers look a bit like a cape. It's also throwing a leaf like a dagger. And its dex entry talks about silently flying up to opponents and attacking. Owl > Owl assassin makes sense.
>>26371786
That wasn't what was being discussed, or at least not what I was reading. The argument was form. Patterns is another argument. Which is it?
>>26371073
>ingame screenshot made less than 2 weeks before release VS some shitty fanart
But okay, have a (You)
>>26371797
Hello, plague doctor whiner.
Denialfags get BTFO every single time, yet keep coming back for more. They're legit masochists.
Assholes posting rule34hentai nd cartoon memes is OK
Assholes discussing and having fun with fakemon/leaks on the Pokemon board IS NOT OK.
>FUCK ALL OF THEM.
>>26371813
for you.
>>26371855
Both those things are shit. Throw it all out.
>>26371073
I thought about something.
The starters evos always leaked faster than the previous ones. So IF they're real, maybe this is the faster this time.
>>26371073
In their defense, this was a perfectly rational perspective. Greninja having a tongue scarf makes literally 0 sense given Froakie/Frogadier designs.
It's still stupid.
>>26371594
The water and grass ones are so ridiculous I wish they were real.
>>26371872
Tell me that when people work equally hard to combat Pedophile shit eating Tails from Sonic comics, The fake that the fake leaks made multiple threads reaching 300+ or more tells that it was quite healthy and fun for the boards.
>>26371918
Sjw threads on /v/ frequently reach post limit. Does that mean they're healthy discussion too?
>>26371073
I have exactly one thing that can easily disprove this right now, the final evolution of every Fire starter has been bipedal, this one is quadrupedal, why is anyone believing this is real?
>>26371073
>one or two leaks were real, so that means all leaks are real. Nevermind all the ones that were proven to be fake
You can't be this stupid, OP. It's just not possible.
>>26371073
So did that guy destroy his 3DS with a sledgehammer on stream or this obviously never happened
>>26371977
All grass types had legs, until we got a snake. Your patterns mean nothing.
>>26371967
There are more dedicated sjws than there are pokemon fans even out of school hours, and the whole point of sjws is to be heard the fact that they have that much traffic on their board means yes it's healthy you idiot.
At least they have some variety and fucking excitement instead of a bunch of bitches trying to force their fun to stop.
>>26371977
All grass starter so has had some form of functioning Legs or Arms, Serperior.
All water starters have tails, Greninja....dumb argument.
>>26371809
I guess it's both, kek. Sorry if I failed to explain what I meant by the Torchic line.
But it's in the sense that, while Blaziken does make sense toward Torchic's concept, all in all, his design formula doesn't really share much with Torchic himself, like the colors.
Like, say you had your very first Torchic in your first blind run Sapphire playthrough.
How surprised would you be at Torchic's final evolution? I assume quite so, since it bears so many differences to what he once was.
>>26371073
They might be real,but they are problaly fake
>>26371632
Who cares? Greninja clearly has no indication of getting a tongue scarf yet he did.
Disturbed owl would be pretty cool.
>>26371977
muh patterns
Until they are proven or disproven, what is the point of making constant threads about this shit?
It's not like any amount of arguing will prove or disprove these things
>>26372115
The threads weren't even trying to prove it only assholes came in crying about how fake they were.
The whole fun was just speculating and discussing them or potentials and people wouldn't let them even do that in the 2 threads they had at first to do so.
>>26372146
>baaaaw, someone doesn't fall for my epic fakemon ruse! That's a personal attack, somehow!
>>26372115
>what is the point of making constant threads about this shit?
it's obvious as fuck attention grabbing yuo moron, if you retards started reporting instead of replying this problem wouldn't exist
>>26371073
>two leaks were real among hundreds
>THEY'RE ALL REAL, GUYS
owlfags16
Friendly reminder that Roothoot and co. Anons failed miserably the last time, and rather than let us go in peace, they're back to spam so more bologna.
>>26372158
Doesn't follow the reality of the argument, deflects by projecting his safe space.....k fag.
>>26372146
Bullshit. There were as many people crying it's real as its fake. Both sides are cancer.
Speculation is fine, but many people actually believe these things to be real with zero evidence or credibility. Past leaks that turned out real actually had credibility.
These designs were just randomly found on Reddit and people like the designs so much they started demanding they be real.
>>26371797
Knife throwing also fits the circus theme.
>>26372201
Except we won, nice try though friend.
>>26372237
Tell me more how they staying in a thread saying it's real is equivalent to going to other threads attacking people for what they want to discuss and believe?
I don't even think they're real but I didn't waste time and energy getting pissed off that people like them.
>>26371412
Holy shit, those are amazing. Popplio evolves into the rapist pokemon confirmed.
>>26372068
Baziken is a fighting rooster. Their chicks look nothing like them when little.
Pokemon does take from the real world when making designs and not every thing just has to get bigger because even in the real world that doesnt always happen. So quit thinking with your ass.
>>26371412
The artist owned up to these and posted the deviantart? What the Fuck?
>>26372385
So Owltair/Espiowl/Eziowl isn't farfetch'd?
Since Owls are often referred and known to be to as silent, night hunters?
post yfw gamefreak pays people to leak the "alternative" starter evos on backshit websites like this one to focus group test whether they should use them or the kid friendly ones
>>26372406
Link?
Did they provide the full, clear image or are they a liar?
>>26371594
I really like all three. Doubt it's real since we are really early days and the legit leaks tend to show up in the last couple of months, but if there were real I'd be happy.
All leaks are fake until proven real.
Also, all leaks are real until we have not a reliable source.
Especially theses ones.
>>26372437
http://deenji.deviantart.com/journal/SUN-MOON-STARTERS-FINAL-STAGE-LEAK-CONFIRMED-FAKE-609320733
>>26372816
about as relevant as that youtube video claiming them to be real
>>26372816
That isn't the artist, just some guy that thought it was real until people just said it was fake so he called it fake.
Serebii only called it fake due to lack of info, so it's not confirmed fake yet til the artist come out or the second stages come out and they completely derail this.
>>26372816
Huh
So
Where's the creator though
In the end, this is as much fake as it is real.
Where's the actual evidence that this is indeed made by someone
The only thing that I even know about these leaks is that they somehow came from Imgur, if that's even a real fact
>>26372972
Yea they were on imgur a couple hours before 4chan, but they couldve came from elsewhere before that.
I'm surprised the artist didn't come up yet since it's good publicity.
I like how these are getting the same love/hate response like real starters though.
>>26371594
Just noticed something, Rowlett "tail" is grenn, at the same time, Owltair have a brownish one don't know what that means just pointing out.
>>26373195
Looks more like he has wings under his cloak...So Bipedal girffen owl?
>>26373214
I though his wings transformed into arms, but maybe, these things on his back are his wings and he uses it similar to Falcon from the marvel movies.
I just want rapelio to be real for the sake of it, littenrally my moms Panther and edge owl can fuck off
>>26373292
can the panther fuck me instead of fucking off
she is pretty
>>26371073
>One instance out of thousands
>Probable
You can just me skeptical you know.
>>26373292
hairball cannon panther is a good concept
>>26372312
>what they want to discuss and believe?
Not that anon, but because this whole leak mentality is fucking terrible and shits down the whole board. I can't count how many shitty text "leaks" there have been all over /vp/ or /v/ about various stuff, and quite frankly I've had enough. I would rather have furfaggotry than this, at least they're honest about their intentions.
If you want to discuss fakemon, then by all means do that, but I don't see how we should encourage delusion because some leaks were real (emphasis on some). The vast majority isn't, looking at the amount of fake starters that were generated for SM should be evidence enough of this.
Yes, I'm mad that underage shitters spam down this board with "nuh-huh, you can't prove they're fake!" as if that's supposed to mean anything, and fuck you for defending them in any way.
>>26373706
And fuck you for nay saying, when pokemon is about creativity and fun while you're literally down talking creativity and fun,
Yet you say furfaggotry is better when I can't even read the boards at all when some bitch is asking for femboys or spamming hentai of furries eating a baby's shit.
>>26371073
> a couple of leaks out of the hundreds turned out to be true ergo all leaks must be real until proven fake
It should be the other way around you stupid roothootfag. All leaks are fake until proven real and you stupid fucks have shown no concrete proof at all.
