Which one is your favorite?
>>26263954
I like that NuNu gen 7
>>26263954
1 > 3 > 2 > 7 > 4 > 6 > 5
I have a soft spot for the Unova trio.
>>26263954
My autism level is off the charts right now. WHY is Totodile in front of Chikorita when all the other starters are arranged Grass, Fire, Water from left to right?!
>>26264192
Because Toto is the best and the other two are scrubs.
>>26263954
1=2>4=6>3>5>7
>>26263954
2>3=7(will change depending on final stages)>4>6>1>5
>>26263954
gen 1 2 and 3 starters are far better than the rest of the trash
1>2>3>6>4>5>7
jesus they go downhill every gen
>>26263954
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE NEW ONES ARE FUCKING DIGIMON
POKEMON: DIGIMON EDITION
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
7 has Litten so I'm going to say it's the best.3,6,7,and 1 are all great,2 is bland and forgettable,5 is the worst,4 is brought down by Chimchar
>>26263954
Gotta go with 4th gen.
Only because I like Empoleon and Torterra.
>>26263954
1
3
7
the rest are shit
>>26263954
Favorite starter is the Totodile. In terms of overall designs:
1 = 3 = 4 > 5 = 6 > 2 = 7
Feraligatr is a great design but the other two just don't do it for me.
>>26263954
2=1 > 4 > 3 >5 = 7 > human fecal matter > animal fecal matter > amoebic waste > 6
Hoenn has the best first stage starters. Johto has the best final stages.
>>26263954
Why do I hate those gen 4 starters so much? I'm I an aspie retard or did they really drop the ball on those designs?
Also I'm a genwunner and I love my starters but seeing them side by side with the other ones they really don't hold up? Will being redrawn improve them or are they doomed by design?
2>7>1>3>5>6>>>>>>fakemon starters>>>>>4
>>26264518
I don't agree but I like you and your opinion.
>>26263954
Gen VII, because this is the first time since Gen I that I actually can't decide which one I want
3>4>7>1>2>6>5
g
f
w
f
g
w
w
7>1>2>3>6>5=shit>>>>>>>>>>>4
The 5th gen ones still make me want to kill myself. They're so goddamn ugly and lazy.
>>26263954
Gen 4, all 3 evos for all 3 of them are P E R F E C T
1 4 7
fite me irl
2>3>7>1>4>6>5
Holy shit do I hate gen 5's starter design.
1 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 7 > 2 > 6
I...I think Litten might be my favorite starter of all time.
3 > 2 = 4 > 6 = 7 > 1 = 5
>>26264114
>>26264241
>>26264356
>>26264478
>>26264484
>>26264573
>>26265578
>>26265601
Jesus this thread is full of shitty genwunners
>>26263954
Cutekip is still my overall favorite
If I had to rank the trios then
3 > 4 > 1 > 6 > 2 > 7 > 5
Which might or might not change based on the final forms of gen 7 starters
2 > 3 = 4 >1 > 5 = 6 > 7
Though I don't hate any of them and the differences between rankings is small
>>26263954
Anyone else think it's strange that we never got the updated artwork of gen 6 starters?
3 > 1 > 2 > 7 > 4 > 6 > 5
HOW IS EVERYONE PUTTING GEN 2 SO HIGH??????
>>26266202
They look good together, they're not over-designed, they have nostalgia value, and they're adorable.
>>26266202
They're cute, which is the only thing that matters when it comes to starters
>>26263954
3 > 1 = 6 > 7 > 2 > 4 > 5
>>26266220
>>26266233
it's almost as shit as gen 5 and has the worst starter of all, chikorita
3 > 1 > 7 = 4 > 2 >> 5 > 6
g
f
w
f
f
w
f
Most of the grass have good designs even though they were not my pick of choice
>>26266250
>stop liking what I don't like
3=2>4>1>5>6>7
>>26266250
Nothing will ever be worse than gen 5 starters. Chikorita might be weak but at least it looks very cute.
>>26266257
I just thought the general trend wouldn't have gen 2 so high.
i don't give a fuck what you like because your opinion is objectively wrong, you just look uninformed.
>>26266273
Nothing except Gen 6.
>>26266285
>opinion
>objectively wrong
You should try learning what those words mean. I wouldn't be worrying about how other people look when you yourself look uneducated.
>>26266303
your opinion is just so wrong that it transcended the spectrum of wrong-ness and became objectively incorrect.
1 > 2 > 5 > 7(for now, final evos could change things) > 4 > 3 > 6
>>26266331
Okay sweetie.
How are the Japs reacting to the new starters
>>26263954
Probably gen 4.
Thoughts on the gen 7 starters:
>They don't look like a trio
>Rowlet and Litten are the first to not have green/red as their primary colours since Cyndaquil.
>Rowlet is the first dual-typed starter to Bulbasaur, which is cool.
I like them but Popplio is derp AF.
>>26266298
Here is your reply
>>26263954
7>5>6>3>1>2>4
>there are people in this thread who don't have Gen IV as the best
Sort yourselves out
Gen 5 is still objectively the WORST gen. 6 gives it a run for its money, but is saved by Greninja. 7 is looking good so far, Rowlet and Litten have definite potential, popplio will probably end up being shit
2 > 6 > 7 > 5 > 3 > 1 > 4
Only right answer
>>26263954
1>2>3>7>5>6>4
IMO anyway. just from a design standpoint the earlier designs were so succinct. I know this board is full of children so this point is for some reason heavily disputed here, but it's not even contentious, the first two gens objectively had stronger designs because it was those designs that hooked in the audience to purchase the games, focus testing and all. specifically the first gen. every gen after 2 has been able to ride on the success of the pokemon brand, and 2 of course had it way easier than 1 so it's not like they had nothin goin for them after red and blue. fact of the matter is, if you don't think 1 and 2 were better, stronger designs when basically everyone can recognize their simpler yet memorable designs, it is probably because you are officially retarded and gay for life
gen 4 gen 4 gen 4 gen 4
Second Gen is the best because of Totodile and Cyndaquil. After that comes 4, 1, 6, 3, 7, 5.
1>3>4>6=2>7>5
Where my reptile/amphibian/bird bros at?
>>26266922
every single gen 1 starter is a reptile...
>>26266722
You forgot Delphox. I'm not a furry but it is a great design and it is a great mon to fight with.
>>26266922
>tfw we now have a complete bird starter trio
My autism has never been this pleased
4>2>7>1>6>3>5
thats the only correct answer
>>26263954
I really really like that kitty
The correct way
6 > 3 > 7 > 2 > 5 > 1 >4
I like most of them, I don't like Chikorita, Tepig and Chimchar. Turtwig and Gen 1's starters are only ok I don't especially like any of them.
>>26266936
Chesnaught would also be better if it's color scheme was different. Honestly gen 6 starters are pretty solid imo.
>>26266540
gen 4 was slow af (dialog hp bar and more) only worth palying with Speed hack not counting heart gold soul silver
>>26266949
>owls
>birds
>>26265598
Are you me?
>>26263954
3>1>7>4>2>6>5
3rd is the best overall
1st gen is pretty solid
7th looks really cool, hopefully they dont fall like 6 did in my list afterwards
4th was worse at the time, but looking back they were ok, nothing great but at least passable
2nd gen i was never a fan of it, but at least i love totodile
6th by the day gets worse for me, which is weird since i really liked them at the time, maybe just because it was not 5
5th was the worse then and still is now, i remember hating them on reveal and later not believing the leaks because of how even worse it had become.
>>26264691
nah your correct. gen 4 designs were aids, especially compared to the first 3 a lot of teens these days however had them as their first pokemon games so a lot of people like them due to that
>>26264036
gen 4 and 5 were fucking shit designs. all rest are sweet, apart from water gen 7 and gen 6 was saved by froakie
>>26263954
6 > 5 > 7 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 4
>>26265364
>>26265524
>>26265598
>>26266244
>>26266250
>>26266273
>>26266722
>>26266950
>>26267452
>>26267529
Why on earth is Gen V so hated anyway? I remember people loving Snivy on reveal (can't forget all those Smugleaf memes), and once people saw Oshawott in motion and realized how cute he was, people softened up. Tepig's probably the only one that I can see people being split on, but the other two were very solid.
Snivy in particular was love at first sight for me, and it's right up there with Fennekin as my favorite starter of them all. I love its evolutions as well. This, along with Gen 6, are my favorite gens as far as starter design goes, and I feel like I'm the only one on this board with that opinion, which makes me sad.
Anyway, my list is 5 = 6 > 7 > 3 = 2 > 1 > 4
>>26267658
the first stages are pretty mediocre but the final evolutions for snivy and oshawott are just so awful. Tepig is actually the least worst of them all.
>>26267658
I think 6 and 7 are worse than 5, but 5 is definitely in the bottom three.
>>26267658
There are things called initial reaction and lasting reaction.
When gen 5 starters were revealed like any gen there were people who in the hype loved it at first sight and others who were disappointed and hated them with a passion. With the passage of time it simply happened that more people realized they didnt like them as much then people who actualy warmed up to them.
I counted 21 people in this thread who put gen5 starters in the bottom3 while only 6 people didnt (including you and people who put them in 4th)
I think wottergate helped to contribute on the hate, i literally believed those "its just x and y poke mixed together" posts because i didnt want those things to be real.
>>26263954
1>6>>>2>3>>4>>>>>>5>>>>7
Gen 1 and 3 are the best, but I really like Gen 5 too.
>>26263954
4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5 > 6 > 7
1>2>7=6>3>4>5
>>26263954
7>6>5>4>3>2>1
it just gets better and better every gen
The only correct answer:
2>1>3>4>6>5>7
Gen 5 was when pokemon designs turned into absolute shit. I mean, there's a pokemon that literally looks like a bag of trash/rubbish and is named trubbish. FUCKING TRUBBISH, and then its evolution is named after and looks like a pile of garbage, called GARBODOR. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
In short, gen 2 the best, 4 was the last time they looked good, 6 almost managed to redeem it, and now everything is lost. Gen 7 looks so fucking ugly and insipid it's borderline criminal.
>>26263954
1 = 2 > 3 > 6 = 7 > 4 > 5
>>26266280
so basically, Gen 7 is your favourite.
>>26263954
1 has 2 good starters
2 has 0
3 has 0
4 has 1
5 has 1
6 has 2
7 has 2
>>26263954
Water: 2 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 6 > 5 > 7
Grass: 7 > 1 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 2
Fire: 2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > 7 > 5 > 6
Kanto and Hoenn are the only good ones
>>26263954
3>1>2=4>7>6>5
>>26266202
Is not first because of Chikorita
>>26263954
2>1>7>6>3>4>5
The newer starters aren't that bad, hope their evolutions are going to be endearing and minimalist.
>>26266331
>>>/b/
Underage please leave.
>>26263954
1>2>6>3>>>>>>4>5>6
>>26263954
1 > 4 > 2 = 7 > 3 > 6 > 5
Clearly, the only correct answer is 2>6>5>7>1>4=3. Don't get me wrong, I really liked all the starters of each gen however the bottom three have generally uninspired designs. I felt like Bulbasaur was the only ambiguously, interesting one of all Gen 1 starters anyway.
>bulbasaur
If it were a wild pokemon it would be one of the GOAT pokemon of gen 1, but its not a fair fight next to the other two starters
>charmander
One of the all time greats
>squirtle
See above
>totodile
See above
>chikorita
Embarassing
>cyndaquil
Bretty gud, but got nothing on totodile. Evolved forms are pretty lazy
>treecko
another GOAT
>torchic
Great
>mudkip
Great
>turtwig
Pretty mediocre, but not awful
>chimchar
See above
>pilpulp
Not awful, but yeah, not great
>snivy
Good but evolves poorly
>tepig
Pretty uninteresting
>oshawott
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, GOD DAMN
>chespin
Good, same problem as snivy
>fennekin
Not bad
>froakie
See above
>grass owl
Meh. If evolved forms are good might be acceptable, otherwise not looking good
>fire cat
Great, lets hope it doesn't become worse with each evolution like the last 3 fire types
>water seal
hurr fucking durr. Same awkward shit as Pilpulp and Oshawott. I expect retarded evolutions like them as well.
Why do people commonly cite Snivy's evolutions as criticism for Gen 5 starters?
I think Serperior is great.
>>26264356
>thinking the new starters are trash
get off of this board boi
Will the Gen V starter hate ever end? Its been almost six years and its still going incredibly strong.
>1
2/3
>2
2/3
>3
3/3
>4
0/3
>5
0/3
>6
0/3
>7
1/3
I don't dislike the newer gens by any means, I just consider the starters inferior.
>>26268330
On top of them being really ugly, they were the only starters I've ever boxed.
>>26268330
I don't mind the gen 5 starters, but its easy to admit they feel like the weaker link
>>26268330
I picked Snivy on my only major play through. I usually always have my starter as my lead.
Serperior was not built for this, it's a support role at best. Damn shame for it.
>>26266280
My nigga
>>26268385
>I don't mind the gen 5 starters, but its easy to admit they feel like the weaker link
I don't see why, Snivy is fantastic, Tepig turns into a great barafaggot-mon, and Oshawott is just acquired taste.
>>26266280
Is 1 the best and 7 the worst?
If so you're a gigantic faggot
Litten not gunna lie
>>26263954
3 > 6 > 5 = 4 > 7 > 2
But I like them all.
>>26268330
Gen 5 is by far the worst generation, hate is deserved
>>26268334
Tell me thats Bulbasaur and Squirtle that you like
>>26268435
>not charmander and squirtle
Time to go faggot
>>26263954
4 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 3 > 5 >6
>>26263954
1 > 2 > 3 = 7 (need to see final form) > 5 > 4 = 6 (complete garbage)
>>26268385
I don't understand why they're so disliked, though. The Gen 2 starters were no better, yet they get a free pass. Its like people expected them to be the magnum opus of starters for some reason.
>>26268551
Gen 2 starters WERE better though.
>>26268551
Look at tododile, now look at all three of the gen5 starters, especially oshowott.
>>26268604
I see nothing great about Totodile. If anything I like Oshawott more.
>>26268551
Totodile is amazing, Cyndaquil is good, Chikorita is shit.
Tepig is passable at best, Snivy is goodish but it's evolutions are a flat out downgrade and Oshawott is a piece of shit.
>>26268618
Get a load of this absolute plebian
Ranking grass starters was so hard, I love them all so much.
>>26268659
The Chespin line is a real shame. It probably has the neatest concept of any starter line but it's design just isn't that good.
good taste edition:
7 > 3 > 6 > 1 > 2 > 4 > 5
>>26268659
>Chikorita that high
>Chespin that low
Anon...
6 > 3 > 1 > 7 = 2 > 4 >>>>> 5
1, 3, and 7 are the only gens where I like all three
Can we at least all agree that gen 3 was 3/3? I mean, for a generation with a pretty weak pokedex, the starters were fucking ace
>>26268687
I had a tradition of picking grass starters ever since Gen 2, but playing through X for the time, I was so apathetic to the selection that I just went with Froakie.
In retrospect Chespin is really cute, and I used one for a recent playthrough of Y just to give it a shot, as I always made sure to play a grass starter for every generation. I found Qulladin as an evolution actually kind of amusing, but Chestnaught just feels like a misfired, incomplete design.
The trio itself isn't "bad" as haters make it out to be, but I have a peculiar standard for grass starters and it's just difficult to compare it to every other starter that I pretty much enjoy all aspects of (I even think the Grotle evolution is cute)
It's just a matter of "I like this one the least"
>>26268770
Chikorita was the first grass starter I ever picked for the first time, that's why.
I find it ironic that a Chespin fan would throw people an easy target like Chikorita under the bus, though. It reminds me of Charizard fanboys shitting talking Phox guys.
>>26268659
All starters are good except Chikorita and Mudkip.
Gen 4 has the most uninspired ones.
>>26268863
Mudkip is adorable, dunno how you can hate it.
>>26263954
based only on the first stages
5 > 1 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 7 > 6
>>26268659
It's clinically proven that Chikorita lovers are either women or gay. So which one are you anon?
>>26268886
but anon, haven't youused it to save your ass in a nuzlocke?
>>26266978
>2 gen II starters in a #1 spot
Can your taste be any more shit?
>>26268886
>mfw Chikorita is my favorite and I also happen to like dicks
Shit...
>>26263954
3 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 2 > 6
I haven't fully adjusted to 7 yet, they look stupid as fuck to me, like fillermon, not starters.
>>26268873
U wot m8? That's totally wrong. On the contrary, their idea is (literally) god-tier. It's the execution that's shit.
>>26268922
>Using chikorita as a clutch instead of cyndaquil in a gen 2 nuzlocke
>>26268991
>>26269014
>>26268983
I thought the Turtwig line was executed well. Imo it's the best Gen 4 starter.
>>26268983
I'm mostly talking about the first stages, though their evos don't do much for me either. The middle stages in particular are some of the most forgettable pokemon out there.
>>26269044
Point granted for second stages, they all look like embarrassing teenage transition
>>26269037
Turtwig's line is the best of the three and the redeeming one for me. What I mean is that all three starters are far from uninspired, great concepts.
>world turtle
>sun wukong
>neptune
>>26269030
>>26269087
>Like the Gen 5 starter trios
>Chikorita's one of my favorite grass starters
>Don't care much for Gen 4 starters
>read this thread
oh
>>26269101
>>26269122
>>26263954
in terms of sets, excluding evolutions
4 > 7 = 6 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5
>>26269112
Its a meme to hate the V starters. They were the hot topic when /vp/ was first made so its always stuck.
>>26269014
>>26269030
>>26269087
>>26269101
>>26269147
We cannot get versions with the Gen VII starters soon enough.
>>26269185
They're literally designed to encourage boxing with shitty stats and boring designs so in game teams have more variety.
>>26263954
7>5>4>6>3>1>2
>>26263954
3>2>6=7>4>1>5
4 = 2 > 7 > 1=6 > 3 > 5I like all of them desu
>>26263954
7>2>1>3>4>5>6
>>26268863
>placing mong seal, tardtodile, and oshitwatt above mudkip
This much shit taste all in one spot...
>>26263954
1>2>3>7>6>4>5
>>26265983
>muh other gens
Nobody cares, faggot.
>>26268551
Gen 2 starters are simple in design. They're easier to take in and accept. Gen 5 is extremely detailed leaving a lot more to hate. Simplicity>Extreme detail. Pokemon wise at least
when only counting first stages i only really like 4, 5 and 7
everything else is kinda boring imo
>>26263954
Overall set: gen 1.
Best grass: Rowlet
Best fire: Fennekin
Best water: Totodile
>>26268316
I think so too. It just missing some key moves, like Power Whip.
Get some fucking taste, /v/.
>>26270032
Your shitty wordplay is even worse than your taste, because Totodile is the best along with Squirtle.
>>26270180
Totodile is fucking garbage.
>>26270190
Fite me
>>26267858
Oh crap! And there's a pokemon that looks like a pill of shit and is named Muk! Oh man!
Every gen had awful and shitty designs, stop being such a faggot.
>>26270190
Oh fuck off, there's nothing wrong with him
4>3>6>=5>7>=1>2
I really don't understand how people like gen 2 starters that fucking much. Totodile is ok, Cyndaquil is decent and Chikorita is complete shit. But to be honest, the only starters I really like are the Oshawott line and the Turtwig line, the others I never cared that much for. Maybe I wasn't that interested with Starter Pokemon when I was a kid.
Top Tier
Gen V, Gen II
Great Tier
Gen I, Gen VI
Good Tier
Gen III, Gen IV, Gen VII
>>26263954
2>5>4>1>7>6>3
>>26263954
4>2>7>1>6>3>5
>>26268330
>Will the Gen V starter hate ever end?
It didn't even really begin until newfags invaded the board. Snivy and Tepig were fucking worshiped in the old days of /vp/.
Still Totodile but Rowlet is a close second
>>26270172
What the gen 2/5 hate?
>>26270172
Fuck you Totodile is based
>>26270843
Smugleaf best leaf. Tepig's a shit though
>>26270172
>disliking Snivy
Strike one.
>disliking Tepig and Fennekin
Strike two!
>disliking Totodile
Aaaaand strrrrrike three! You're out.
>>26266853
>implying they only did marketing research for gens 1 and 2
>EVERY GEN AFTER 2 IS ONLY POPULAR BECAUSE OF THE FRANCHISE!
Jesus Christ can you be any more obvious, genwunner?
>>26265983
I like pokemon from every gen, but gen 1 starters put all the rest to shame. It's the only gen in which all three actually look good.
>>26270968
It's because you've known them the longest. For me it's gen 3
>>26268330
It will end once SM is released. People are already regarding Gen 6 as the worst now, after all.
>>26271005
I've hated gen 6 ever since I replayed X and Y. Total garbage it will be known as the worst Pokemon games. What unique to it? Dressing up? We'll have that here
Fuck ORAS too. Gen 5 and gen 4 are always consistently winning polls. And gen 4 is on the way out
>>26271005
Plebeians may think like that, but it was already decided by a poll that the /vp/ hivemind thinks Gen 5 is the best. Specifically B2W2.
>>26271046
>>26271104
>Gen 6 being hated
>Gen 5 being called the best
>Gen 4 being ignored
Thanks for proving my point, morons.
>>26270172
>crossing out Totodile
Nigger I will fight you.
>>26271046
>Gen 5 and gen 4 are always consistently winning polls.
This is what baffles me. Back in the glory days of /vp/ I remember an ENORMOUS amount of the board proclaiming that Gen V's starters were the among the most well-designed ones of all.
As another anon mentioned I guess it has to do with oldfags leaving the board and newfags coming in.
>finally realise what makes post gen 4 starters look different
>the colours are brighter
Can someone shop the colours to be duller of the OP? I feel lik it'd change a lot.
>>26270968
Real talk, if those three were released in a generation other than 1, you idiots would be throwing the autistic fit of a lifetime.
>>26271144
No one likes BW though, which they should according to you. Your point is a dumb generalization. Besides, the consensus is that HGSS is the second best Pokemon game,
>>26271288
Everyone loved BW until you little Kalosperm shits learned how to browse 4chan.
>>26271323
>>26271288
Ahahahahaha, this is glorious, you all are trying so hard to disprove the chart and yet you're proving it right here in this thread.
>>26271362
I never disagreed with your chart though, I just think the consensus changes as different people come and go over the years.
>>26270989
But my favorite pokemon is from gen 6, and I like it more than any gen 1 starter.
Just because you're swayed by nostalgia doesn't mean everyone else is the same. Gen 1 starters are all fairly simple and neat looking.
It's not as though complex designs are bad, but often the excess features just detract from the whole.
>>26271323
I don't know if this is the chartfag falseflagging or if there are really people out there who liked that piece of a shit of a game.
People hated BW because it was way too easy and you could only get Unova Pokemon until the post-game. The game was full of handholding, the worst of them being the childhood rivals. The region was linear and boring.
BW2 had none of those problems. It even had an unlockable hard mode, you could get non-Unova Pokemon by the second route and the rival wasn't a sissy. There were optional routes with content, making the region feel alive.
XY came and the BW problems came back, Completely shit rivals, handholding, easy as fuck. Region was complete trash. I can't possibly understand why some homo who liked BW would call someone else a "Kalosperm". Both games are similar and suck.
>>26263954
Treeko fits better in the Hawaiian setting.
I'm gonna Pokebank him over and have him be my starter.
Also
>using starters if you don't like any of them
Choose your own path, anons.
>>26263954
2>4>1>5>3>6
can't really rate 7 without evos, but it's up there, all three are super cute
>>26264114
I think I agree with this the most.
Gen 5 kinda sucked, people were basically forced to pick smugleaf unless you had some really alien tastes. Also they all had terribad final evolutions.
Gen 6 was OK but Fennekin got cucked pretty bad with its final Evolution, especially if it's male. Even Pokken acknowledged this by putting in the second form only.
Gen 4 was OK but Empoleon was really stiff and didn't really seem like he was very capable of fighting. He seemed like he was ready to give a speech, not battle.
Gen 2, the choices were a little strange but otherwise passable and overall equal between the 3 starter choices. Points for originality I suppose.
Gen 3 and Gen 1 are the best. Ruby and Sapphire felt like it was a very inspired game. Must have been all the trumpets.
>>26270032
Mudkip is a pile of shit and its a shame it exists since all the water starters would be solid otherwise.
>>26271323
BW had horrendous final evolutions.
Everything rehashed, White Otter turned into a Blue Sea Lion for some fucking reason. No new type combinations. BW and BW2 was literally just fodder so Gamefreak could work on the actual next generation game, X and Y.
I'm sure as standalone games, BW and BW2 were good. But in the context of them changing NOTHING from Diamond and Pearl you can't really celebrate them for doing... anything.
If we're rating effectively on the first evolution alone
3=2 > 1 > 6 = 7 > 4 > 5
If we're rating based on final evolution
3 = 4 > 2 = 1 > 6 > 5
>>26271985
Samurott is an otter you dumb cunt.
>>26271998
Not everyone is an agent of chaos like you, some of us rate things according to a structured reasoning system.
>>26272030
What's wrong with my ratings anon?
>>26267858
>JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
why do you write like a 12 year old?
>>26267858
>putting gen 7 at the end
Is it possible you're just a low-level autist who's first game was gen 2 and hates change?
>>26271528
Are you baiting? Honest question.
Unova had:
>Repel mechanic
>Reuseable TMs
>Hidden abilities
>Rare shakey grass spot encounters
>Critical captures
>Battle E4 in any order
>Actually being rewarded for completing the Pokedex outside of a lame certificate
>Funfest Missions
>Seasons, which in turn added for some gorgeous environments
>Largest roster introduced
>Dream World
>White Tree/Black Tower
>Pokestar Studio
>The Pokemon World fucking Tournament
>some of the best music in the series
Gen V was fucking BASED and most people used to wholeheartedly agree with that notion. When did this board suddenly become infested with faggots? Where did all my niggas go?
>>26271985
>But in the context of them changing NOTHING from Diamond and Pearl
Yeah, no. You're a retard. Opinion dismissed.
>>26266853
I forget shit like Stantler, Sunflora, Parasect, Nidoran, Sandslash, Venomoth, Lanturn, Girafarig so no its just your nostalgia and Pokemon's constant pandering of gen 1
and gen 2 used gen 1 as a crutch in every aspect (the anime, games, the pokemon) that gen 2 by itself is pretty fucking bad, it 's literally gen 1.5
>>26272170
>When did this board suddenly become infested with faggots?
I don't know, man. The board had nothing but unanimous praise for Gen V and even its starter designs aside from being triggered by the typings.
Then again, that was SIX YEARS ago. Most of the guys who used to browse /vp/ have probably moved on by now.
>>26271985
>fodder for working on the real next games
so why is black & white (and 2) much better than XY and ORAS?
>>26263954
Based on final evos:
4>6>1>5>3>2
Middle evos:
1>6>2>3>5>4
First Forms:
4=5>6>1>7>2>3
2 > 1 > 6 > 3 > 4 (but all the aforementioned are pretty good) > 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7
7 is complete dogshit. They don't even look like they fit in with the rest of the starters. To me they don't even look like pokemon at all. By far the worst.
>>26264356
Gen 3 is the weakest overall.
Treecko is okay at best, Grovyle is okay, Sceptile is mediocre.
Torchic is okay, Combusken is garbage, Blaziken is bad.
Mudkip is okay, Marshtomp is terrible, Swampert is great.
>>26271998
Final Evos
Grass:
Torterra > Sceptile > Meganium > Venusaur > Chestnaught > Serperior
Fire:
Infernape = Blaziken > Charizard > Typhlosion > Embroar > Delphox
Water:
Swampert > Greninja > Blastoise = Feraligatr > Empoleon > Samurott
First evos
Grass:
Bulbasaur > Treeko > Chespin > Rowlet > Chikorita > Turtwig > Snivy
Fire:
Torchic = Cyndaquil > Charmander > Fennekin > Litten = Chimchar > Tepig
Water:
Pipplio > Totodile = Mudkip > Squirtle > Froakie > Piplup > Oshawatt.
2>1>3>7>6>5>4
7> shit > 1,2,3,4,5,6
>>26268937
>He doesn't like superior Totodile and Cyndaquil
Fucking pleb
If you have to take them as a set, 1= 2 > 6 > 3 > 5 > 4 > 7
Rowlet is very cute but Litten and Popplio earnestly "don't look like Pokemon", and that's the first time I think I've really had to say that. Popplio is borderline but Litten just looks like Yokai Watch pandering.
>>26272929
>liking the most boring starters.
>>26273020
>Popplio earnestly "don't look like Pokemon", and that's the first time I think I've really had to say that
And to that I would call you a retard. There is nothing defining about Pokemon, they can look like anything and everything.
>>26263954
3>4>1>7>2>6>5
>>26270968
>>26270042
Wrong. Kill yourselves. If you were shown Gen 2 first you'd say the same. I don't agree because I have superior taste and I can see them right now, and no, they aren't the best. So just go die in a fucking hole.
>>26263954
I actually like the new ones the most. Pikachu is still the cutest starter pokemon though.
>God Tier
Bulbasaur > Cyndaquil > Snivy > Mudkip
>Good Tier
Squirtle = Charmander > Totodile > Treeko > Froakie > Popplio > Rowlet
>Average Tier
Turtwig > Chespin > Piplup > Tepig > Torchic > Chimchar > Litten > Fennekin > Chikorita
>Bad Tier
Oshawott
Someone make a Straw poll on the 3 new starters and start a thread.
>>26263954
4>1>7>5>2>6>3
This is going by first stages only, obviously.
>>26263954
4>3>1>2>7>5>6
>>26263954
1,3,5.
Honestly I only care about Gen 1, 2, 3, and 7.
Finally we're back to good starters.
GOAT tier:
Litten, Cyndaquil, Squirtle
Great tier
Charmander, Bulbasaur, Mudkip, Treeko, Rowlett
Good tier
Totodile, Torchic, Turtwig, Piplup, Oshawott, Chespin, Froakie, Popplio
Meh tier
Chikarita, Chimchar, Snivy, Tepig
Bad tier
Fennekin
GOAT tier
Wartortle, Ivysaur, Charmeleon, Quilava, Dewott
Great tier
Grovyle, Grotle, Fragadier
Good tier
Bayleaf, Servine
Meh tier
Prinplup, Monferno
Bad tier
Crocanauw, Marshtomp, Combuskin, Pignite, Quilladin, Braixen
GOAT tier
Charizard, Blastoise, Typhlosion, Sceptile
Great tier
Venusaur, Blaziken, Swampert, Chesnaut, Greninja
Good tier
Feraligatr, Meganium, Infernape, Empoleon, Torterra, Emboar
Meh tier
Samurott, Serperior
Bad tier
Delphox
First stage:
7>1>3>2>4>6>5
Second Stage:
1>2>4>5>3>6
Final Stage:
3>1>2>4>6>5
Rowlett>Bulbasaur>Treeko>Chespin>Turtwig>Snivy>Chikoria
Litten>Cyndaquil>Charmander>Torchic>Pignite>Chimchar>>>>Fennekin
Squirtle>Mudkip>Oshawott>Froakie>Poppolin>Piplup>Totodile
Ivysaur>Grovyle>Grotle>Bayleaf>Servine>Quilladin
Quilava>Charmeleon>Monferno>Combustin>Pitnite>>>Braixen
Wartortle>Dewott>Frogadier>Prinplup>Crocanauw>Marshtomp
Sceptile>Chesnaut>Torterra>Venusaur>Meganium>Serperior
Typhlosion>Charizard>Blazkien>Infernape>Emboar>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Delphox
Blastoise>Swampert>Empoleon>Greninja>Feraligatr>Samurott
>>26263954
6>1>4>7>5>3>2
>>26263954
6>3=1>2>7=5>4
>>26268659
>chikorita
>>26274454
>Litten
>GOAT tier
Stopped right there
>>26263954
2 > 3 > 7 (so far) > 1 > 4 > 6 > 5
3>6>4>1>2>5>7
>>26274637
shit opinion detected.
Gen 3 Because Treecko/Sceptile >>> Gen 7 > Gen 5, it's only as high as it is because Snivy >>> Everything else in between I sort of feel "meh" about. >>> Gen 4. I fucking hated Gen 4 with a passion, I can still to this day feel the rage and disappointment.
I've never really liked more than one starter from every generation, so it's kind of tough to rank, because starters aren't really my thing. I think Gen 7 is the first generation in years that I can say that I'm actually having a tough time deciding between two starters.
Gen V.
>>26263954
4 > 1 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 5 > 2
Personal tastes may differ. Personally love 4, have nostalgia for 1, like 6 alot, and always hated 2, don't really mind 3, found 5 boring. 7 in the middle because I like the first evos, want to see the rest.
>>26263954
Best water type: Piplup
Best grass type: Snivy
Best fire type: Litten
>gen 4 is now the "middle gen"
Where does the time go, lads? I remember buying a magazine from Walmart with info about newly revealed gen 4 Pokemon and feeling excited about these brand-new characters. It was before I had internet. I remember it like yesterday. I still have the magazine somewhere. This must have been 10 years ago. H-hold me, /vp/...
>>26263954
4>3>1>5>2>6
can't rate 7 cause I don't know the final evos, but based just on first evos i'd put them just under 5
1 is easily the worst. All the others are pretty good though obviously they have some downsides.
>>26272170
You're either illiterate or a huge faggot. Unova is not the same thing as BW2. BW is not the same thing as BW2. In my opinion, BW2 is the best Pokemon game. BW is one of the worst. It doesn't matter that it added all of those features in a shitty game. I could barely even enjoy them because the handholding was almost as bad as ORAS's.
BW DIDN'T have:
>Funfest Missions
>Pokestar Studio
>Pokemon World Tournament
>White Tree/Black Tower
Those are probably the 4 most relevant things you listed, all of which come from BW2. White Forest was shit before White Tree, same goes for Black City.
Also
>Hidden Grottos
>Join Avenue
>Selectable difficulty
>Move items in party
>Return of Move Tutors
All part of BW2, not BW.
>>26263954
>type
Turtwig > Snivy > Rowlet = Chespin > Chikorita = Bulbasaur > Treecko
Litten > Cyndaquil = Fennekin > Tepig = Chimchar > Torchic = Charmander
Piplup > Mudkip = Totodile > Squirtle > Popplio > Oshawott = Froakie
>overall
IV > II = VII > V = VI > III = I
>>26263954
1>2>4>3>6>5>7
>>26263954
3 = 4 > 5 = 7 > 6 > 1 > 2
>>26263954
Gen 4.
>all look great
>all are useful as fuck
>Sun Wu-kong, bonsai turtle, and a fucking penguin
Gen 6 comes in second.
>>26263954I like them all
My favorites, in order by generation: Bulbasaur, Cyndaquil, Treecko (even though I don't really like Sceptile), Turtwig, Snivy, they all suck, Litten
>>26264192
glad you posted this desu
