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So what do you think the arbitrary "theme" of the starters
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So what do you think the arbitrary "theme" of the starters are, this time around? For example gen 6 was said to be RPG classes with Delphox being a wizard/witch, Chesnaught being a knight, and Greninja being a thief.

Gen 5 is thought to be different countries royalty figures. Serperior being french royalty, Emboar being chinese, and Samurott being japanese.

What can you come up with for our gen 7 friends?

Off the top of my head, maybe something like they all represent types of performances. Where Rowlett represents acting or opera, because of his bowtie. Popplio represents the circus for obvious reasons. i'm not sure about Litten. Maybe something more serious in tone.
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>>26251011
Litten is the beast that leaps through fire rings.
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>>26251011
Litten is both the feline who jumps through fire hoops, and the fireblower (just read his blurb).
Rowlet is the master of ceremonies.
We /circus/ now.
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>>26251062
Hm, maybe they could all be circus themed, now that you mention it. Litten the big cat which are popular circus attractions, Popplio the clown, and Rowlett the ringmaster. Hm.
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>>26251011
>Off the top of my head, maybe something like they all represent types of performances. Where Rowlett represents acting or opera, because of his bowtie. Popplio represents the circus for obvious reasons. i'm not sure about Litten. Maybe something more serious in tone.
Since you gave the other examples, you should have probably figured out you can't really guess what the theme is going to be based on their first form designs, so why is that exactly what you end the post doing?
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>>26251232
It's fun to speculate. Thank you for your input.
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Pignite and Emboar are wrestlers. Oshawott line is based on different classes of feudal Japan (fishermen, shogun, samurai). Only Serperior is royalty.
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>>26251011
>Rowlet
Circus presenter
>Popplio
Clown
>Litten
Fire breather
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>>26251318
During the shogunate, the shogun was basically the king of Japan, you know.
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>>26251173
>Litten the big cat which are popular circus attractions
There are two big cats which are commonly used with circus acts like this, the lion and the tiger, so would Litten become a tiger due to its stripes? I doubt it would become a lion since Pyroar and Solgaleo.
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>>26251623

Why the fuck would a striped cat become a lion you fucker? It's obviously going to be a tiger.
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>>26251011
>i'm not sure about Litten. Maybe something more serious in tone.
I've seen someone on here say that it could become a fire dancer since the region is based on Hawaii.
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>>26251623
Yeah I assume it's going to be a tiger as well. But I'm also a zodiac fag, so...
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>>26251232
People figured out the Gen 6 starters' theme just off their basic stages alone. Granted most people just guessed "thief" for Froakie, not specifically ninja, and there were still plenty of incorrect guesses as well. But it's certainly possible, especially if you pay attention to 'dex flavor text.

Or we could all be horribly wrong like the people who thought Wotter would become a Snowman/Otter hybrid.
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>circus theme
>no elephant
>owl which has nothing to do with circus

they fucked up if that was their intention
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>>26251011
They all have a secondary color as an accoutrement

>red whiskers and stripes
>green bow tie
>blue neck ribbon
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>>26252184

Yeah no, people only guessed they were based on Rpg classes after Pokebeach leaked the final types.
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>>26252184
I wasn't around for XY but I was for BW and no one even came close to guessing a "theme". I would be surprised if anybody specifically said "XY starters wil lturn into warrior, mage, and rogue" and not just that they guessed what their stats might be like at best
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>>26251011
gen 5 was based on north american countries, since they were the first Pokemon games to take place outside of Japan.

Oshawott = Oshawa, Canada

Snivy = America (original flag with the snake

Tepig = Mexico (luchador pig)
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>>26252263
Oh I didn't think about that, yeah I could see guessing the themes based on their final type but we don't even have that.
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even if the circus theme isnt confirmed, there is a shitton of fanart of it.
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>>26252294
Er, no. I could have sworn we had it explicitly stated somewhere but I don't know where that the starters were 100% european (I think specifically french), Chinese, and Japanese
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>>26252219
Green bow tie= ring leader
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>>26251654
>what is bobcat
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>>26251172
>>26251434

its called a fucking ringmaster.


and Rowlet will be either that, or a magician.
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I just realized the reason why Litten has stripes on his legs is to represent ring jumping

These designs are very well thought out
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>>26252417
Rowlet's final evo gets a vine whip
Litten has hoops in its design
Popplio is a clown/evolves into an elephant
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>>26251011
Circus themed.
Rowlet is a ringmaster and maybe a magician.
Litten is a circus tiger and fire breather.
Popplio is a circus sea lion and clown.
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>>26252294

It was explicitly stated that Snivy's evolutions were based on French royalty, Tepig's evolutions have a Chinese theme, and that Oshawott's evolutions have a Japanese theme.

Snivy = Western
Tepig = Chinese
Oshawott = Japanese

The gates to Parfum Palace in XY even have Serperior on them.
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>>26252457
>sound like you're jumping through a few hoops yourself, to come to that conclusion
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>>26252263
But remember that Pokebeach "corrected" their leak almost immediately so that Chespin would be Grass/Dark and Froakie Water/Fighting, and that's what most people believed. Some people used this to rationalize a dark knight or a robin hood evolution, but the traditional mage/knight/thief thing was still popular regardless.
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>>26252522
Who are you quoting?
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>>26251463
>History of Japan
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>>26252572
great
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Obviously the theme is a circus theme (Ladies and Gentleman)
Performapals
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>Circus Theme
>Based In US
I must agree US is ass backwards and a joke
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>>26251623
>>26251654
Liger
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>>26251318
Shoguns were the rulers of feudal Japan.

A lot of Emboar's design incorporated motifs of Chinese royalty (the gold and shiz)
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>>26252752
Emboar also follows up Infernape by being Zhu Bajie from Journey to the West, to Infernape's Sun Wukong
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>>26252670
>Being this jealous that US gets the two best regions in the series.
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>circus theme

>Fire isn't an elephant
>generic cat

WHYYYYYYYY
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>>26252466
>sea lion
>into an elephant

Really hoping you meant elephant seal there anon
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they are a circus troupe
clown
ringmaster
daredevil
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>>26251011
Repressed sexual desires
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>>26252378

Bowtie aren't specific to ringleaders. And owls are commonly depicted with bowties.
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Generation starters are based on the side blotched lizard, whose sexual behavior works in a rock-paper scissors manner.
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>>26252952
oh fuck me, you're right

it isn't the tiger in a hoop, its the cannon guy

>shoots explosives
>wick for a tail
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rowlet will be a magician, litten a beast master and popplio an acrobat
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>>26253001
Generation 1*
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>>26251011
The circus theme actually makes a lot of sense. I ain't even mad about it either.
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>>26251011
Owl "le reddit shitposting xDdxXD"
Cat edgyfag and "mature" fag
Clown contrarian clown
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What if, design wise, Popplio is meant to be an acrobat primarily and a clown secondary?
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>>26253001
Never thought about this. But it makes sense, because Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander are reptiles
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>>26252990
Now know what to name my Rowlet
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They're going to be based on neckwear. Rowlett will have a bowtie, popplio will have that weird frill bib thing, and the cat will be based based on neckbeards and grow a mane.
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Is this "theme" meme a recent thing or has there been a theme for every generation of starters?
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>>26253334
1st gen= reptiles
5th gen = nationalities
6th gen= fantasy rpg party members
7th gen = circus

the others are just random shit
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>>26253415
2nd gen= no idea
3rd gen= Fighting types (Blaziken is Kick-boxing, Sceptile is guerilla/MMA, Swampert is Wrestling)
4th gen= also no idea
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>>26253475

4th gen = Nature/Humanity/Technology (Torterra = earth and nature, Empoleon = Technology, Infernape = Humans)
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>>26253415
>1st gen= reptiles
>>26253475
>3rd gen= Fighting types (Blaziken is Kick-boxing, Sceptile is guerilla/MMA, Swampert is Wrestling)
>>26253677
>4th gen = Nature/Humanity/Technology (Torterra = earth and nature, Empoleon = Technology, Infernape = Humans)
I mean, does everything
Sometimes things just don't have a pattern guys. Starters might now as of gen V but I'm pretty sure there was no rhyme or reason previously.
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OH SHIT

Litten (dark type) beats delphox
rowlet (flying) beats chestnaut
popplio (fighting) beats greninja
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>>26253840
>clown
>fighting type

>greninja
>staying dark type
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>>26252859
Big cats are a staple of circuses that are actually still used. Elephants are now banned from Circuses.
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>>26251011
They definitely look performance/circus themed to me.

Which is great because I would love a circus theme
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>>26253960

Uh you realize the Timburr line are clowns right?
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>>26254237

While its true that every fucking mon in that line LOOKS like a clown, I'm pretty sure the line is based on woodchucks.
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All i can see for the owl is the magician of the circus because "rowlet" reminds me of jk rowling and harry potter and his messanger owl
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>>26253677
Come the fuck on.
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Gen 4 were based on myths and legends. Son Goku, Poseidon, and whichever mythological "turtle with an island on its back" you want (there are loads).
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>>26254056
Banned? Only in some countries.
We don't give a fuck about this here
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I think that the three starters will be based off of the three basic elements discovered by Aristotle; grass, water, and fire.

The cat represents fire due to its red and black color as well as its ability to expel flame, the sea lion represents water due to sea lions' oceanic roots. The owl was harder to pinpoint but by process of elimination we can assume it represents grass.

More evidence of this comes from the fact that the region takes place in a Hawaii expy, a land known for its lava flows, rivers, and large grassy fields.
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>>26254056
>Elephants are now banned from Circuses.
Kek, where?
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>>26251011
Grass/Flying
Fire/Fighting
Water/Ice

Everything will be strong and weak to each other.
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If you squint hard enough, you can still fit them in the pattern meme.

>Just as Chespin was the first mammals evolved from reptiles, fitting the "Grass starters are prehistoric reptiles", Rowlet being a bird is for the fact birds are modern dinosaurs
>Litten can both refer to the Year of the Tiger in the Chinese zodiac, and the myth of how the Rat stole his year from the Cat
>Just like Oshawott, Popplio is a Water-starter based on an animal that is semi-aquatic.
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>>26254056
>Elephants are now banned from Circuses.
I just saw on the news an hour ago, the ringling bros circus elephants. There were at least a dozen of them being shown.
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>>26253840
I'm gonna be hugely upset if Popplio doesn't become a fairy type if his evolutionary line is centered around clowns. Though in your hypothetical that would still trump Greninja in terms of type.
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>>26251011
the theme has to do with nature. roothoot is native to the island, the cat was brought there and the sealion is a mix of both (both brought there by the sea currents but also kinda native in its own way)
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>>26254684
You know that news story was about that being the last time they would ever have a show with the elephants, right?
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>>26252859
>elephant
>low speed fire starter
Into the trash tier it goes.
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>>26253677
>>26253475
>>26253415
4 is mythology
Empoleon has a trident like Neptune
Torterra is the turtle shaped earth
Infernape is Sun Wukong
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>ripping off Yugioh Arc-V
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>>26252952
Beautiful.
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>>26255058
I hope we can give the protag tomato hair.
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>>26252522
Whom are you quoting?
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>>26253677
This is reaching for the stars
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>>26251173
I SWEAR TO GOD, IF ROWLET'S FINAL FORM GETS A BUILT-IN TOP HAT, IT'LL BE THE ONLY POKEMON I USE THIS GEN.
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>>26254985
That makes sense, given that was the region's overarching theme. By the same merit, Unova was the first region not set in Japan, hence the international starters theme. Gen 6 took place in psuedo-Europe like most generic RPGs.

Perhaps this generation will be a joke, hence the circus theme?
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Litten could be reminiscent of a kabuki hero, perhaps. I only see this as a small chance, but it does have red, nippy looking markings. Unlikely, but it's a thought.
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>>26252859
I would like to see a circus act where an elephant jumps through a hoop of fire
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Seriously guys?
>Land
>Sea
>Sky
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>>26251011
Bird cat dog fucking dense motherfuckers.
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Jesus fucking Christian people, Litten is a kabuki.
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>>26251011
if Rowlet is opera and Popplio is circus i think Litten could be kabuki if he was white but could work
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>>26251011
>i'm not sure about Litten.
Obviously middle-eastern entertainment.
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>>26252325

Any more like this?
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>>26255197
>japan makes a region based on Hawaii
>pearl harbor
>purposefully makes the region so shit, its a fucking joke to them
>dumb fucking clown starters
>Handholding beta bitch rival again
>STILL no postgame
>tfw dumb americans buy it anyways

>tfw dumb americans buy it anyways
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>>26252325
Awesome drawing!
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>>26252859

Maybe Popplio evolves into an Elephant Seal so we get a clown, seal, and elephant (sort of) all wrapped up in one adorable big-nosed package.
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>>26256264
Don't forget they include Sakhalin in Sinnoh, an island japan lost to Russia after WW2 but still claims it
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>>26251907

>yfw it's evolution will have a ring
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>>26256507
Rowlet -> knife thrower
Litten -> tiger/lion jumps through fire hoops
Popplio -> circus seal balancing ball on nose
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>>26252325
I luv dis
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>>26254422
>Goku

It's Wukong. Get your anime bullshit out of here.
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>>26256774
The Japanese call him Son Goku, though.
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>>26254628
Chesnaught is based on Glyptodon, actually.
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>>26251011
They're all based off traditional Japanese toys


Roothoot is a daruma:
Though considered an omocha, meaning toy, by some, Daruma has a design that is rich in symbolism and is regarded more as a talisman of good luck and goals.

Litten is a Beconing Cat
Modern Japanese folklore suggests that keeping a talisman of good fortune, such as the maneki-neko, in bedrooms and places of study will bring about favorable results and life successes

Spheal 2.0 is a cup and ball.
Kendama bears similarities to the classic cup-and-ball game, and the Hispanic world toy known as boliche or balero. The principle of these toys are the same: catching one object with another, where both are joined by a string. However the modern kendama style takes influences from a diverse range of skills including yo-yo, diabolo, juggling and dance.

the forerunner of today's kendama went on sale. It was called Nichigetsu Ball (Sun-and-moon ball), because the ball looked like the sun, while the shape of the shallow carved cups was like a crescent moon.
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Anyoone else thinks popolopo will evolve into an elebump? They're known to squoirt from their snouts.
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The archetypes of wise owl, trickster fox/cat, and comedic buffoon jester?
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>>26251011
Rowlet: Grass/flying
Litten: Fire/Dark
Popplip: Water/who gives a shit
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The theme this time around is memes.
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>>26251011
Following the "different types of performances" line of thinking, it's possible that Litten will become a kabuki tiger.
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>>26255999
>>26260088
Trips AND dubs confirm it-- Litten is gonna be a Kabuki Kitty
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>>26258989
That's not what I meant you retard.
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>>26252859
If I don't get an elephant legendary soon, I'm writing a letter!
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>>26259380
Frog god legendary here we come.
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They all hunt at night my dude. I don't think sea lions are fully nocturnal but they do hunt at night. Sun and moon, makes sense to have starters that could fight during day or night.
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