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Rowlet bros get in here.
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in here
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here
I fucking love Rowlet, I'm so glad we aren't getting down syndrome owl & co
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have a thing i made
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Reporting
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>>26235778
>what is second stage evolution
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>>26235470
I can't believe it looks WORSE than that cancerous owl we had before.
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>Grass/Flying
>Fire/Dark
>Water/???
What is the seal's third typing? Fairy?
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>>26235470
>The white and brown bit of the beak are two separate segments
This changes things
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>>26235862
>moving the goalposts
eat shit
Rowlet a cute! CUTE!
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>>26235470
is it a bird?
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>>26235934
its a clown, all but confirmed fairy
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>>26235934
Fairy or Ice
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>>26235934
It will be Psychic and bounce around on bubbles made of psychic power and then hypnotize the ringmaster of the circus into giving it an extra fish when it does good.
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>Grass Bowtie
Grass has all the damn class
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>>26235934
Fighting.
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>>26235982
>implying owls are birds
of course not
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Litten looks like the "fast furfag edgelord" starter, like Zard and Greninja.

Poppilo (sp?) seems to be the special attack focused one, with bubble and bubbebeam no doubt being in it's moveset.

So will Owlet be the bulky grass type again, like so many before it? Will it be a physical attacker with stuff like Brave Bird, Razor Leaf and Fly (fucking HMs), or shit like Razor Wind, Air Cutter, Energy Ball?

I for one love it. I just hope it's good ingame at least.
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>>26235909
hey it doesnt have down syndrome like roothot its definetly better
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Can any other starter beat Rowlet when it comes to pure cuteness?
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Honestly, I think Roothoot was "real" now. Seems like he was an early version prototype or something.
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GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT
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This'll probably be the second time I actually pick a grass starter willingly, so I hope this niggas got some good evolutions.
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>>26235470
>Making me choose between Rowlet and Litten
>Mfw
You know, I brought this on myself. I complained about not wanting any of the B/W starters. Then I gloated how Froakie was the easiest pick ever in X/Y. This is the the universe punishing me for my hubris.

I think I'm gonna go with Rowlet though, unless Litten's final evolution is absurdly sick looking/powerful.

Watch that retarded seal thing be the destroyer of worlds, statwise
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What if the bow tie evolved with it? Vine tie? Flowers?
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Reportan
Owl a best
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>>26235934
Grass/Fairy
Fire/Dark
Water/Poison
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At the moment I am totally in Camp Rowlet.
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>>26235470
cade and owlparrot are 10/10
the sea lion is shit, oshawatt 2.0
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>>26235470
Someone needs to edit this into Rowlet
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>>26236649
fuck forgot pic
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owl is cmfy
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Excellent taste, bros.
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>>26235909
Fuck off, this thing is adorable. I bet you thought that rock fire thing was a good design as well.
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>>26235470
How do you like
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Why is Rowlet named Rowlet?

What does the name have to do with its typing?
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Hype!!
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>>26236100
I thought that too
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>>26237679
root+owlet
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Rowlet is the only starter this gen.
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can someone grab this gif?

https://twitter.com/Eltee78641/status/730009379425095680
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>>26237679
Rowdy owl
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Owlbro reporting in
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Rowlet easily the best. The other two look horrible. The cat is OK from the front but it's side shot spitting the fire furball is trash and that idea is a dumb basis for a fire cat. And the sea lion is just a fucking embarrassment.
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>>26235470
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>>26235862
Are we really gonna deal with this now?
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>>26237845
Rowlet's looking like it'll be a fast physical attacker at the moment, I'm pretty hype.
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This is the first time I actually like a Grass starter.
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>>26237572
Wow, that was fast. Good quality, too!
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>tfw rowlet will look back at you sometimes during battles

Truly best starter
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>>26237915
Same. It's really cute and I want to hug it.

The other starters just aren't as good this time
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>>26236064
>Grass/Flying
>Poison
>Rock
>Flying
>Fire
>ICE

Sorry anon.Can't believe everybody likes tropius 2.0 and expect it to be good with what can be described as the WORST type combination ever
Sorry anon
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Love Rowlet
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>>26238062
It could be redeemed if it gets Gale Wings as a Hidden Ability.
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This thing is fucking boring, it looks like a generic wild level 2-3 pokemon you would encounter at the start of the map.
Starter Pokemon were always supposed to be special and look like they had some charm and mysterious flair to them, but this one just looks like a punching bag.
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>>26238044

The second and final evolutions matter a bit more to me, even though I like Rowlet most so far. Popplio and Litten both have potential for good looking forms.
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>>26238062
I don't think anyone expected a flying/grass to be good.
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>>26235470
Rowlet will evolve to the bravest bird 2.0
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>>26238115

its only the first stage

first stages are only required to look cute
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>>26238115
I do think the design needed more green but besides that it looks fine.
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>>26237896
>It has a habit of turning its head in battle to face its Trainer and receive instructions.

Must be creepy as fuck to have this little fucker rotate his fucking head Exorcist-style to stare at you with his soulless black eyes.
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>>26235470
I think the best evolution for Rowlet is if it doesn't change form, it just gets bigger.
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>>26238115
Go fuck yourself.
Rowlet is CUTE!
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>>26238044
This is truly the most huggable starter.
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>>26238128
Yeah i wasn't a huge fan of froakie either until greninja was revealed and I thought chespin was gonna be great
Still though, Rowlet takes the cake for best 1st stage gen 7 starter.
>>26238172
>creepy
i hope you mean CUTE
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>>26238171

I disagree completely

part of the reason Chespin is so terrible is because they shoehorned a bunch of green into his design
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>>26238165
>>26238208
Bidoof also looks cute.
And that's all it has going for it, it's nothing but a generic level 2-3 grind mon design.
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>>26235470
LOVE MY BABY OWL.
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>>26235470
Ok rowbros listen up, obviously Rowlet is best first stage starter. However please brainstrom ways to make our owl strong to make up for that inevitable 4x weakness.
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>>26238144
>implying Rowlet isn't already bravest bird

just look at his little feets, anon

look at them
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>>26238331
Bidoof is not the same kind of cute. Bidoof was also very good in game.
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I pretty much always go water, but Popplio doesn't really do it for me. I'll have to wait and see what the evolutions are. In the meantime, I like Rowlet the most.
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>>26238411
The easiest one is gale wings for his HA
Otherwise, we hope that his sig ature move is godtier
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Rowlet A CUTE!!

But that double type disadvantage could fuck our first battle up if flame cat has good spatk and ember off the bat
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>>26238436
Even HootHoot would have more of a unique flair to it's design making it a more interesting and memorable tier 1 starter.
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>>26238325
I don't have any inherent problem with that. I think Chespin's design was hurt by giving it the Pikavhu ish body shape when hedgehog or porcupines would have been better served by a spherical shaped body IMO. Also it's feet and arms were kind of big and gangly I guess to make its silhouette more different from Pikachu. I don't necessarily have a problem with Chespin's butbthose would be my issues with its design off the top of my head. I think starters should prominently feature their types color, even if it's only to the extent that Litten does it, for example. The only green on Rowlet are the two tiny leaf details on its chest and I don't care for that. Not saying every grass type had to be green, just that I think starters should lean towards that because it makes for very distinctive and popping images when all the starters are together in a shot.
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>>26235783
how original
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>>26235909
>>26238062
>>26238115
>>26238172
>>26238331

You are not Rowlet bros. Therefore you were not invited to this thread.
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>>26238411
Here's a way-lose the grass type.

Seriously,its gonna be a grass/flying or grass/dark. Both type combos are horrible.

Owlfags got their owl and it sucks dicks.that's it
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>>26238514
>double type disadvantage

Flying isn't weak to Fire m8.
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>>26238611

Rowlet does also have significantly more green on the inside of his wings though if you look at the OP image
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>>26238411
Good stats would be a nice start. I could see it having something close to Sceptile's stats, but physically oriented, and with slightly more power and slightly less speed.
Grass/Flying is actually a pretty decent offensive typing, only about 35 Pokémon currently resist it and nothing is immune, so it's pretty set there. As long as they don't make it slow and defensive then it should actually be pretty good.
Grass and Flying also have a lot of good moves going for them, and with it being an owl I could see it getting an array of Psychic and Dark-type moves as well.
Ability could be anything. Gale Wings is obviously the impossible dream but if it got Tinted Lens like Noctowl does then it'd still be pretty damn good. Failing that, Soundproof would fit it pretty well too.
I have high hopes for this guy.
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>>26239162
Come on you actually made meme owl look good you have to use the shitty art od it.
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this is the first time I won't be choosing the grass start in my life because rowlet just looks weird.
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>>26239254
How does it look weird
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>>26239269
too round. I might pick it regardless if the middle evo looks better though.
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>>26238172

I hope that it actually does turn its head around to stare at you whenever you're in the Move Select screen. That would be a nice touch.
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>>26239307
Hoothoot was round.
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LOOK AT DAT SMOL BOI
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>>26239124
>>26239212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
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>>26238411

Well, it's information mentions that it likes to kick things. Maybe it'll get some decent fighting moves thrown in the mix. Not perfect, but at least it's harder to switch into an ice type if the opponent has hard hitting fighting type moves.
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>>26239537
It'll probably just get double kick as an early level up move.
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I CAN'T PICK A SIDE! I love birds (fuck your memes, you're not funny) and own a green parrot. Owl's design is insanely cute, 10x better than the cat. I love everything about him!

But if I pick grass I feel like I'm betraying my tradition of always going water-type. I think Popplio has potential to evolve into something awesome, but Rowlet is just so goddamn amazing on every level. Who else feels torn between two starters?
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>>26238172
>Hey trainer, have you pledged your allegiance to Satan yet?
>No? Okay, I'll check back again in thirty seconds.
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>tfw you want the owl but your girlfriend loves owls
>she doesn't want you guys to pick the same starter because you never do that
>go with the cat to keep things enjoyable for her

Here's hoping Litten is a bro. Good luck, owlfriends.
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>>26239651
>being a beta
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>>26235470
>Grass/Flying
Dropped, not falling for the Grass meme again after Gen 6.
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>picking Hoppip as your starter
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Reporting.
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>>26239829
Hoppip came with splash, not a stab attack move when you first get it.
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Hope water final evo doesn't look shit

Rowlet and firecat look good though.
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From the moment I saw the new starters at arrival time, I was smitten by Rowlet at first sight. Although, I was also shocked and kind of flipping out because the color scheme matched Roothoot's, but then I realized it looked 10x better than that Finn piece of shit with it's awful mouth-beak thing. Not gonna lie, I was part of the shitposting wave associated with that fake (But only during the first 2 weeks, after that I got bored of it). I'm so glad it actually is an owl but at the same time sad that it's Grass/Flying. It weirds me out seeing Grass be dual type but the other 2 are single type.

Then I hear the cry it makes as it spins around in place. I instantly knew from there on it would be my starter. And it just kept getting better. When it FUCKING SWIVELED IT'S HEAD BACKWARDS DURING BATTLE TO LOOK AT YOU. Hot damn.

I really, REALLY like the design. It's modern yet simple. It's not complicated but it's also busy enough to be interesting. Everything fits and connects together. The two leaflets give it a bow tie appearance, it has a leaf in the back that resembles a coattail from a suit. It has a face of a halved apple and barn owl. It has green leaf pattern under its wings which explains its unique new move Leafage (Leaf + Plumage), and its called the Grass Quill Pokemon. The short stubby claw feet, the simple black owl-y eyes are cute. Only issue is the nose but its a minor nitpick, looking for phallic imagery is often forced by human minds. Its actually all around perfect and really sets the stage for what Gen 7 mon designs as a whole offer and are indicative of this time period.

I really do wonder how this lil fugger will look like when it evolves. For sure that plant bowtie will play a part in it.

(Also crossing fingers for some bullshit like Gale Wings to save its typing but barring that I can also take solace in having my Fly mon for ingame)
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>>26238713
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>>26235470
fingers crossed they don't go full JUST with the 3rd stage design.
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>>26238062
gotta watch out for the omnipresent poison type :)
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>>26239718
he'd probably be a bitter basement virgin if he didn't compromise on stupid shit women think is important sometimes. better to do it over a children's game that literally has no impact on life other than brief entertainment.

>>26239829
fuck, i wish. this game needs to be more challenging, anyway.
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>>26239162
>Flipping off his Evolution
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>>26239952
You must have a retarded looking dick if you think his beak is phallic.
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>>26239952
I just want a battle animation that makes it adjust its bow tie
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>>26237839
No, you.
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>>26238062
Some people like Pokemon based on appearance more than their competitive viability, believe it or not.
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>>26240212
Some faggots
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>>26240088
I knew this was going to happen.
Your stupid owl is fake. Just give up.
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>>26238033
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Reporting. It's cute as shit too
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>>26235934
The grass type might lose flying for a different type
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>>26239718
>giving your woman first choice of cartoon monsters in a video game
>so beta you guys

Ok man.
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>>26240508
>giving into a woman's demands

it's a slippery slope
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Bird orb.
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>>26240508
>not enjoying the game with the cartoon monster you want because m-muh girl

Beta
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>>26240422
welp no arguing it. Rowlet a best
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>>26240561
Pls no bully
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>>26235909
You are joking right
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>>26240561
Holy shit, I was literally just about to post bad orb.
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Much MUCH cuter than that faker clogging up bandwidth here.
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reporting. rowlet easily one of my all time favourites already
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>>26235470
This is just like I said, fairy types all over again.
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>>26240508
i find it hard to believe these guys have girlfriends, unless said girls are the boring doormat types, which is entirely possible.
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>>26240957
I fucking love seeing this shit. Feels good to have never doubted that fairy was a thing.
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>It weirds me out seeing Grass be dual type but the other 2 are single type.
???
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My fucking niggers. Haven't been this excited for a starter since Turtwig. I'm actually a lot more hyped for Sun and Moon than I was for X and Y. Its finally here bros.
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I wish it didn't have that line on its beak, but obviously, it's the best starter. Can't wait to see what the little pueo evolves into.
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>>26235470
its lit
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>>26235470

Best looking starter

I bet it's going to be Grass/Flying
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>>26235470
holy shit a great grass starter

im in
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>>26238115

nigga, Rowlet is anything but boring.

Yeah, he's basic but the design is recognizable as fuck, not to mention there's no possible way you don't remember this unlike that faggy fire cat
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>>26241165
Nigga please, its been revealed that it starts off as grass/flying
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>>26235470

Nice to see how Gamefreak has redeemed Grass types as the best starter type.

Let's just forget Chesnaught was ever a fucking thing
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>>26239952
IT has overgrow. Go look at the website, and hope it learns forests curse.
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Once again, the grass starter is the best hehehehehe
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>>26241285
>best starter type
Just because they got one right doesn't mean it excuses all the others
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>>26236064
Owlet will have Gale Wings as its hidden ability and will be a heavy special attacker.
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>>26241298
>IT has overgrow.
People are actually this stupid. Holy shit, people are ACTUALLY THIS FUCKING STUPID. I don't even feel like telling you why you're this fucking stupid. What's the point? You're just going to do something else fucking stupid.
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>>26241074
I'm pretty sure he was not including bublasaur since that was before conventions were set and also for some reason they had this weird thing that they made almost everything that would be mono grass part Poison in gen 1 because of reasons except Tangela for some reason.
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>>26241285
>Chesnaught
>anything but awesome

Spotted the fag. Bet you had lots of fun with Narutoad.
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>>26241402
>defending Chesnaught
>calling others fags
Go jerk your dick to your ugly hairy bara turtle some more.
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>>26240481
I have the same feeling idk why
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>>26241345

>just because they got one right

>Bulbasaur
>Meganium (it's hotshit but the design is the best of the 2nd gen starters)
>Sceptile
>Torterra
>MOTHERFUCKING Serperior

The only shitty design is Chesnaught and the less said about it the better
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>>26241441
>not liking bara
wyd?????
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>being a barafag

I'm not a degenerate, I got a badass Grass/Fighting tank. I named mine Juggernut.
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>>26241248

I think I might have to go with litten. They made Rowlet too perfect to want to evolve him. It's like evolving past Braixen or evolving your joltick. Why does GF do this to me?
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>>26241402

>disliking that bulky bara shit means I'm a Greninjafag

fuck you, Grass types are supposed to be reptile like. I give Rowlet a pass because it's a bird, therefore it has reptilian features.
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>>26240957

Nobody said a grass owl wasn't plausible, they said that roothoot was obviously a fake. No pokemon would look like that.
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>>26241529
>grass types are supposed to be reptile like

piss poor bait, m8. we aren't all newfags here.
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>>26241298
Ability Capsule is a thing.
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>>26241579
not for hidden abilities it aint
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>>26241529
>>disliking that bulky bara shit means I'm a Greninjafag
Well the only option left is being a phoxfag and you surely wouldn't stoop to that level, right?
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>>26241562

>grass type starters have been reptile like since first gen

>bulbasaur not being a toad/saur thing
>meganium not being a fucking dinosaur
>sceptile not being a lizard
>torterra not being a turtle
>serperior not being a snake

fuck you retard and fuck Chesnaught forever
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The real question is: Why does it wear a BRA.
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>>26241676
it's a bow-tie you uncultured swine
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>>26241631

>waah waah you greninjafag
>wait, you're not a greninjafag
>waah waah, you delphoxfag
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>>26236377
Start game. Choose one. Put it in bank.
Restart choose other move bank starter to team.
Use both.
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Stop making owl threads or I will garbage them all!
>>26235470
Honesltly i will choose the fire katty or this grass/flying owl. Hope in good ATK/SATK and imba speed nad nice evolutions like big wings and a decent beacked face!
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https://twitter.com/_BEPS1/status/730020093829074945 any of you niggas got the plush??
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>>26241706
considering the tropical setting it could very well be a bikini top, however
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>>26236699
Double dubs confirms. Give it time. I've already seen it called Dr. Hoot on social media.
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>>26241781
Yeah, if you like fucking Pokemon
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>>26235470
I really hope this becomes an agressive special attacker later on.
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>rowlet gets noticeably older as it evolves
>final evolution, it loses the ability to fly and walks around with a little stick cane and his bowtie and suit
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>>26241402
A literal pile of shit would have been a better final evolution for Chespin.
Just because you wanna fuck it doesn't mean it's good you degenerate.
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>>26237679
I thought the joke was on "roulette" because its head does the thing
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>>26237845
>>26237896
First time I've fucking adored a starter hot damn.
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>>26236282
Who was your first grass starter?
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>>26241846
Please no we don't need another Delphox
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>>26241831
You don't want that.
Grass special attacker to gamefreak means:
Fuck you, your movepool is only grass moves, normal moves and hidden power. You want coverage? Fuck you.
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>>26241846
That would be incredibly cute. It could also be a better typing rather than Grass/Flying.
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well damn

I just got in, this shit is hype as fuck

is Owlposting finally dead my dudes
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This thing makes me want to use a grass starter for the first time.

What are we thinking, fast physical sweeper? Leaf blade is a definite, that, tailwind, synthesis, Fly?

Grass Smogon bird?
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>>26241929
they're just arguing that it's an evolution now. desperation and all.
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>>26241878
Treecko, wasn't a huge fan of the sluggish, bulky look of the other starters and Snivy just didn't appeal when time went on before BW came out.
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Challenge for you, /v/:

Give Rowlet a secondary typing that could fit its final form and saves it from suckage.
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>>26241888
PRetty much this, and combined with flying which isn't know for coverage moves either, it'd be doomed. I'm hoping for physical but I somehow doubt it's very fast which would be its only hope of being good as Grass/Flying type barring hidden abilities. Being a circular owl unfortunately strikes me as defensive though so.
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>>26241929
No,owlfags have become denialfags.
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>>26241969
>Fly
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>>26242006
goody

how bad is it compared to FAIRY denialfags
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Glory to rowlet
The roothoot killer
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>>26241980
How!?
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>>26242002
There's basically only two ways to make this little fucker good:
Make him fast, give him gale wings and turn him into a utility mon. Make him the fastest spore use. Have priority tail wind and roost, and there you go.

The other way is makes sense too because the entry says that the little thing likes kicking:
Make it a fast physical attacker with Reckless, have it learn HJK, Wood Hammer and Brave Bird
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>>26239952
Bravest bird was able to defy all expectation, everyone and their mother thought he was dead on arrival in the competitive scene and look where he is now. Owl just needs the right hidden ability, like Froakie, to be competitive. It's up to Gamefreak whether they want to make a grass/flying starter work or not.
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>>26241969
I'm leaning towards special sweeper. Giga Drain, Energy Ball, Air Slash, Extrasensory, stuff like that.

Maybe even Earth Power.
pls gamefreak.
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>>26239334
That would be really cute
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>>26235934
>dark
at best it will be fire/electric and the 3rd option is water/rock which works cause he juggles boulders.
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>>26242001
Owls are nocturnal. Moon is out at night. Moon is associated with fairy. Grass/Fairy confirmed my boys!

Lmao it's flying, we just gotta deal with that.
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>>26242100
Hum. I wonder if could be bulky physical with reckless. I guess not. That didn't work for Emboar and his typing was better than Grass/Flying. I just can't imagine this thing as being anything but defensive.
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>>26242001

since it may keep the bowtie instead of being Grass/Flying and be a regal motherfucker like Serperior he may just stay as a grass type.

Maybe add Normal? Nothing really fits unless they reveal he's a ghost
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>>26242121
>grass pokemon
>getting coverage
>SPECIAL attacking grass pokemon
>EVER getting coverage
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Kajinchu makes new lewds and I get an owl as a starter

Could today possibly get better?
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>>26237572
Make sure to be part of the Generation 7 Sprite Project friend.
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>>26241980
The hells Selkie doing over there?
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>>26242100

Floressum is the best starter in Sage.
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>>26242170
B-but... earth power...
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>>26242170
That's why I said please.
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>>26241969
BRAVEST BIRB
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>>26242139

That's literally what it does. >>26240422
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>>26242204
If Fire-types can't get Scald Grass can't get Earth Power. Fuck you.
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>>26236064
I expect fire to go purugly and be a fat shit
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>>26242170
>nasty plot
>hyper voice
>leaf storm
>psychic
>moon blast
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>>26242100

or make him a slow special attacker. We haven't really had a slow non-physical grass starter (Meganium is more support because it lacks special options)
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>>26242162
Owls ARE ghosts. Spooky as hell.
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>>26242272
I was gonna say maybe it'll get Grassimilate but then I remembered >Grass. Not even once even with the power boost.
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It feels good to be vindicated
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The real challenge to ensure our new owlbro doesn't die horribly is this:

How do we keep talonflame and weaville from eating Rowlet for breakfast in OU?
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>>26242293
>or make him a slow special attacker.
Dear god no, it's like you want it to be absolute trash
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>>26242328

>wanting your starter to be OU cancer

If he becomes UU or RU it's the best
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>>26242328
By not playing OU
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>>26242328
Remove them from the game.
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>>26242002
>Being a circular owl unfortunately strikes me as defensive though so.

I think that's just because its an owlet. Look at barn owls, they're round when small but become pretty slender later on.

>>26242100
I doubt Rowlet will be a "competitive" mon. I could definitely see it being a physical attacker. But owls aren't exactly known for their extraordinary speed. It would be nice if they could design around the "stealth" aspect somehow and not make it completely suck, but that's probably not going to happen.
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>>26242160
Being chunky as a stage 1 doesn't mean it's gonna be bulky. It can just have high HP to deal with recoil.
Owlking
Grass/flying
Reckless
BST:
100 HP
120 attack
50 defense
90 special attack
55 special defense
115 speed

Learns HJK, Woodhammer, Bravebird, Roost
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>>26242324
here's your (You)
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>>26242324
This is not the case, and it will never be so.
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>>26242293
Unless they made up a new, extremely powerful hidden ability to compensate, him being slow with that typing would kill any chance of him being able to compete.

Gamefreak has already shown that you can take a pokemon with a bad typing, min max their stats for a defensive role, and they STILL are terrible. That pokemon was Avalugg.
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>>26235470
>Grass/Flying with Overgrow
JUST
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>>26242324
Yikes. I hope that's not true. I'm glad that owl came true, but only because it ended up being good looking and not that Quilladin tier deviantart thing.
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>>26242293
venusaur?
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>>26239574
I'm in the exact same situation you're in. I've been faithful to water for all 5 generations, but I have to go grass this time
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>>26242454
base 80 speed is average. anything below that is slow
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Lads, relax. Gamefreak clearly put the most effort into its design with the spinning head thing and the leaf feathers. Popplio comes second with the lame bubble and Litten just raises its fur like a flame. You can clearly tell there is a bias like with Froakie. Plus it's a flying type. Gamefreak will make it good.
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>>26242411
>>26242413
I hope so. I really don't want it to be defensive or even really support based in general. Those tend to be the worst starters in game, forget competitive. Bulky is fine I guess but grass and flying are just so bad for coverage in-game and bulky pokemon really want the coverage there.
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I'm hoping this won't be another Chespin, where the first form looks cute af and the evolutions are awful garbage.

Except I like this one enough to just use it anyway and keep it from evolving.
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>>26242371

if he's as bulky as Reuniclus he wouldn't be shit, fuck you

Having Synthesis and giving a PP boost to all regeneration abilities (it's fucking bullshit they're 5 PP and max 8, while Recover is 10 normal pp), another type like Ghost, give him a defensive ability and some good support moves and he would have a nice niche
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>>26242328

You don't, idiot. Every Pokemon has counters. Neither of those stop Serperior from being A tier.
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>>26242411
Owls use quick bursts of speeds to catch things. Just because they aren't long distance speed machines like other birds of prey, they're still pretty fast. They're just not long distance fliers and can't maintain the speed for long.
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>>26235470
I fucking love owls in general and I've always been sad that Noctowl isn't that good. Will definitely use Rowlet.

Hell, I can't even remember the last time I willingly used a grass starter. I used Sceptile when I played Emerald shortly before ORAS still not a fan and rolled for Snivy in B2 Nuzlocke I failed.

Other than that, I can't even remember. Hopefully he delivers.
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>>26242471
>base 80 speed is average
Look at this man and laugh, laugh as 100 is considered slow in real battles.
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>>26242483

he won't be offensive, just face it
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>>26242492
>if he's as bulky as Reuniclus he wouldn't be shit, fuck you
Yes he will, but I'm assuming Grass/Flying and guessing it'll be anything else in the final stage is extremely hopeful at best.
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>>26242492
Reuniclus doesn't have to deal with a grass typing.
Not to mention Reuniclus has a movepool. Something that a grass type will never, ever have.
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>>26235470
He is the cutest. Only way I'm getting a different starter is if they fuck up bad with his late designs or the cat gets a really great last form.
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>>26235934
Water/Dragon
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>>26242548

we're not talking about OU Smogon, and 80 has been an average speed since first generation

0-60 makes it a slow motherfucker
60-80 makes it slow but not so much
80-100 makes it average
100-120 is for speedy motherfuckers
120> is for the speediest fucks
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>>26242553
Then he's guaranteed to be irredeemable shit unless he gets spore and 95+ speed.
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>>26242553

>Rowlet can attack without making a sound! It flies silently through the skies, drawing near to its opponent without being noticed, and then lashing out with powerful kicks. It can also attack from a distance using the razor-sharp leaves that form part of its feathers.

>The move Leafage attacks an opponent by striking it with leaves. Rowlet knows this move from the moment it becomes your partner!
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Given what could come of the owl's evos and possible moves it'd gain, I think a fitting moveset for it is High Jump Kick, Leaf Storm, Brave Bird and Roost. Seems about a good coverage of moves to me with what this thing could likely do.

Also, based on pokedex description, seems it can learn likely Steel Wing as well possibly.
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>>26235470

The seed is strong.
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>>26242589

yeah, he has to deal with a Psychic type that's arguably worse now that Knock-Off is everywhere. If they give Rowlet something like Thick Fat he may compensate for his weaknesses

>>26242640

>trusting a Pokemon role by the attack descriptions

Guess that makes Digglett have arms since he has Slash and Aerial Ace, :^)
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>>26242553
>bird of prey
>his entire entry focuses on him being a little motherfucker that kicks things and puts emphasis on its hunting

He is gonna be offensive.
Gamefreak learned their lesson with Meganium. They are never gonna make another utility starter again.
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Given that it's the Grass Quill Pokemon and has a bowtie, I'm expecting a scholarly owl. Maybe it'll even get some little elbow patches
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>>26235470
As headmaster of the church of new owl I appreciate this thread.
Old design root hoot believer fags shall burn in hell.
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>>26240422
Thats a green bra, not a bow tie i mean its a tropical setting
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>>26242671
I think people are getting too hooked on that it uses kicks thing. I think it's just talking about attacking with its talons and not literally using fighting techniques. I feel like I've seen another pokedex entry that talked about a bird pokemon 'kicking" in the same way. I wouldn't bet on anything but a random double kick early on like a lot of random pokemon get.
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