What kind of megas do you want from S/M?
I want an anti-stall mega bad, I think Weezing would be a good choice.
Something like this, so it's immune to both burns and toxic
Mega Weezing
Poison/Fire
Levitate
65/140/70/135/70/110
Why bother, it's be banned instantly by smogon.
Dunsparce
>>26221247
I want a Mega Porygon Z. I would like to also note that some Pokemon do need an Mega, like Luvdisc and Dunsparce.
>>26221304
>>26221247
>>26221304
>Beats Amoongus
>Beats Skarmory
>Beats Clefable
>Beats Sableye
>Probably beats Chansey, if it doesn't have T-Wave
>Beats Quag if Weezing has HP Grass
>Loses only to Alomomola and Cresselia
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>>26221247
We already have anti-stall Megas, in OU and below.
Mega Pidgeot
Mega Gardevoir
Mega Gyarados
Mega Ampharos
Mega Sableye
I just want Mega Flygon and Mega Milotic, and maybe the Mega Gen 2 starters.
>>26221336
>dat boi
>not my son
They only had one fucking job.
>>26221304
Probably
>>26221335
Would be cool if the mega fixes the bugs it has
>>26221374
It would be a big fuck you to stall
>>26221388
>Mega Pidgeot
True, but some Stall teams pack Weavile to beat SD Chomp and Pursuit trap.
>Mega Gardevoir
Can't break Skarmory
>Mega Gyarados
Burn vulnerable, can't break Quag, can only break Amoongus if running Ice Fang.
>Mega Ampharaos
lel, can't beat Chansey or Amoongus, or even Quagsire.
>Mega Sableye
Is the face of stall, of course it can fight its own team.
>>26221374
Am comp retard, how does this thing beat Sableye?
>>26221524
I'm a comp retard, but I assume it's because it can't get burned
>>26221444
Banded Pursuit won't kill Mega Pidgeot on retreat, so it'll be fine.
Focus Blast beats Skarm as long as it hits. SpDef Skarm on stall is bad if that's what you mean, since they need Def to take on Mega Lopunny among other big physical threats.
>can't break Quag
Someone's forgetting something. Amoonguss is tricky but that's why you save the Mega Gyara sweep for late game.
You're supposed to Baton Pass Nasty Plot(s) from Celebi to Mega Ampharos and it sweeps.
>>26221247
Dunno, as first things i'd just like the ones that got "left out" in XY and ORAS with their "counterparts".
So Butterfree, Golem, Machamp, Froslass, Milotic, maybe Dusknoir too.
I want no megas, I want actual evolutions.
I'd suck some dick for that Weezing.
>Shitmon turned into something good, proper use of mega evolution
>Good design, type change makes sense
>Levitate covers the x4 weakness
>mixed attacker means can take out both physical and special walls
>Puts stallcucks in their place
If they want to add more megas, they should give certain Pokemon evos first then the mega.
>>26221388
>M-Gyra
>anti stall
>M-Sabeleye
>Anti stall
But it IS stall.
>>26221524
Sableye cannot deal any decent damage to it even with Weezings now shit defenses.
But prankster recover means them duking it out wouldn't be fun for anyone, once recover ran out of PP it'd be dead though.
>>26221601
That is both unrealistic and not what the thread is about. Why did you even bother posting
It doesn't need a Mega, it just needs one move: Recover.
>>26221661
It can get burned then.
We need a mon immune to both burn and toxic
>>26221419
That's the joke.
>>26221670
>Heatran
>>26221719
You got me, but another would be nice.
>>26221247
All I truly need are Johto Starter megas
>>26221635
Mega Gyarados has the tools necessary to break stall, namely Mold Breaker.
Mega Sableye still cucks stall hard. It can be both stall and anti-stall. Metal Burst even blows Clefable the fuck back.
>>26221670
Does it have to be immune?
Like what if it were a fire type with Magic Guard.
>>26221247
Anti Stall would be tough to build a Mega for unless you get something in the spirit of Mega Rayquaza.
Specifically for anti-Stall, the best bet would be to build something that either ignores or bypasses conventional defensive measures, or can alter itself to the point where there is no safe, concrete answer every time.
>>26221836
>tough to build a Mega for
But I made one easy in OP.
-Immune to Burn/Toxic
-Fast mixed attacker, can attack whichever defense stat is weaker
Things are are hard to damage passively piss on stall
>>26221788
It has to be
>unable to be burned or poisoned
>doesn't care if it is burned or poisoned, or
>benefits from being burned or poisoned
>>26221905
That's a way of going about it, though I don't understand why it has such a large attack stat now. Does it learn new moves? How does it deal with Foul Play from Mega Sableye?
>>26221914
When's Mega Ursaring? Give that thing 160 ATK, 160 S. ATK, and 80 SPD with the Quick Feet ability.
>>26221964
>Does it learn new moves?
Eruption and Lava plume
>How does it deal with Foul Play from Mega Sableye?
Not sure, dunno if it's a one shot.
>>26221247
Take levitate off then it's ok
>>26222061
>Give it a 4x weakness
Why?
It's floating in the air too, it's dumb to take that away.
>>26221304
>>26221374
Anyone has that picture from an older thread showing all the wall/stallbreakers in OU?
In the Smogon Role Compendium are 93 (mostly) viable Wall- and Stallbreakers listed. If you're too much of an idiot to look something up with Google, then fuck off.
>>26221304
>>26221374
it wouldn't get banned because koffing is smogon's mascot.
>>26222155
They'd all be greatly inferior to this proposed Mega Weezing.
Stall relies on passive damage, being immune to burn and toxic means you'd have to phase it and rely on stealth rocks to kill it.
We need more mons almost entirely immune to passive damage.
>>26221614
>Weezing
>Shitmon
Nigger what?
>>26222035
>Eruption and Lava plume
I was hoping you'd say Flare Blitz and Gunk Shot at least.
>Not sure, dunno if it's a one shot.
It is always a 2 KO.
>>26222024
That's 140 points you're adding to attack, special attack and speed, at best its bulk will be 90/55/55. Also, Ursaring only gets Hyper Voice and Focus Blast for good special attacks. Not saying it wouldn't work, but that's a really hard ask.
>>26222115
Weezing doesn't have a strong base to be turned into what OP is asking for, even if it doesn't make sense getting rid of Levitate for something else would help a lot.
>>26222187
I didn't even realize that.
Imagine Smogon having to either give up stall or ban the mega of their mascot.
Kek.
>>26222202
Give him those too.
>>26222202
>Weezing doesn't have a strong base to be turned into what OP is asking for,
It's gasses ignites, turning it into a fire type.
It's takes on a more aggressive form over the defensive Weezing and can propel itself faster than before ignite its gasses like a booster.
Levitate also keeps it from having a 4x weakness, which is essentially instant death for a non defensive mon.
Heres your anti-stall mons goys:
Reuniclus
Shiggydiggylyth
Clefable
M-Sabyleye
Gliscor
Breloom
Balky Scizor
Conkelderp
Any taunt
Crocune
M-Venusuar
>>26222204
It would be their Sophie's Choice.
Smogon's Choice.
>>26222270
Not really what I meant. What I mean is, Weezing would have a hard time from turning into a physical wall into a wallbreaker. Its movepool is geared toward passive damage and support despite the Fire Blast and Thunderbolt blessing. It starts out with 60 base speed and with the ability to become burned, so it is super vulnerable until it secures becoming a Mega.
>>26222194
It takes 25% from rocks though, and strong rock/water attacks are still going to take it out. If you go fully physical with OPs Mega Weezing, Sableye oneshots it after rocks. Defensive Slowbro completely stops it.
It would be good, but probably not too overpowered.
>>26221247
I want mega dunsparce/evolution chain in general for poor lil land snake, and mega carnivine
Maybe a pre-evo for carnivine while theyre at it, but its not necessary
my baby girl needs a Mega.
>>26222376
True, Magic Guard may be preferable.
You can always switching to away from ground moves.
>>26222453
>make transformation possible outside of battle
>fixed
>>26222472
I'd be ok with this as well.
>>26221247
I want this for 100% accurate w-o-w, also flamethrower stab. Makes my stockpile, w-o-w, flamethrower, pain split set officially hell. But he could probably drop stockpile or pain split for sludge bomb, it'd be nice if sun moon gives it sludge wave via tutor, but this could definitely be one of my favorites.
Mega rampardos with an unlikely but still possible full invest in speed, or at least to up it into 110-130 and the rest in attack, give it rock head to make head smash stab something usefull and done. He's still super frail and with no priority, so be won't be banned but he'll be viable
>>26222656
Shit, it doesn't even need a mega. It just needs it's stats tweaked.
>>26221247
Megas are shit.
Bring back regular evos cunts.
>>26222693
>stat tweak
His whole thing is being the one with the highest attack, just buff that up along with its speed to make it not be killed instantly and done, we don't need another average fossil mon
>>26222729
I never said it needs less attack. Just take away from it's defenses and put it into it's speed, since it's not living from a EQ anyways.
>>26222509
>100% accurate w-o-w
?
>>26222757
Will o' Wisp
>>26222751
I'd love to give rampy the beedrill treatment, but it's unlikely gf will do that given its design at least. That'd be sweeet though, imagine 140 base speed and 210 base atk
