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http://e3.nintendo.com/
>Tune in starting at 9 a.m. PT for the world’s first in-depth look at the new Legend of Zelda game.
>The day’s events will kick off with livestreamed gameplay and behind-the-scenes info from the game experts of Nintendo Treehouse—live and unscripted from the show floor.
No Digital Event means no Pokemon at E3. Zelda is the only game both playable AND shown.
Mainline Pokemon has never had a terribly big presence at E3, but both XY and ORAS did receive trailers in years past (Fairy type reveal and first ORAS trailer period).
Basically, just keep waiting for Corocoro. Pokemon is pretty much its own thing now anyway.
Alright then.
We have to be getting information this month then, since they couldn't leave us high and dry for another 2 months.
Right?
>>26174431
Hahaha.
>>26174431
2 more months of delicious owlposting awww yea
>>26174391
>a delayed wii u game is the only thing at e3
where were you when nintendo was kill
the big announcement in this months corocoro will be that pokemon sm will also be released in india
>>26174391
Even if the E3 is Zelda focused, a direct will still happen.
I was suprised to see Pokemon had some mention at E3 last few times. It seems so alien for it to show up there for some reason.
Is a Direct ruled out then? Like nothing but one day treehouse stream?
Last year's Direct was shitty and even Iwata apologised, but to not do it at all?
>>26174493
DESIGNATED
>>26174391
then why the hell should masuda be at e3?! And he don´t visit this shit reguraly.
>>26174513
SHITTING
>>26174531
STREETS
Welp.
vp's going to die if there's nothing again. Most people put their hopes and dreams into e3 being the end all. But this happens?
We're so fucked.
>>26174538
>forgetting about the "big may announcement"
cautious optimism lad
>>26174391
Where does this say at all that there won't be an E3 Press Conference from them? If they don't do one and only have Zelda U/NX to talk about then Nintendo is fucking dead when it comes to E3, they had a mediocre Direct last year and were the least hyped of all other companies, that cannot afford to screw up like that another year.
>>26174550
Read the OP again.
>The day’s events will kick off with livestreamed gameplay and behind-the-scenes info from the game experts of Nintendo Treehouse—live and unscripted from the show floor.
Guess what the day doesn't kick off with compared to what it usually does.
>>26174550
E3 is a big event with investors but Nintendo has never really been that big into it. They probably look at it like a Sony MS war and would rather do their own thing to stand out.
>>26174391
The link doesn't say a damn thing. Only a picture which I assume is Zelda related.
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>>26174550
>>26174581
For any naysayers.
>>26174562
They're "kicking off" E3 with their Treehouse livestream of the new Zelda for the the 14th. Maybe the stream is completely separate from their digital event and follows on a different day during E3
>>26174562
>>26174573
>>26174586
Alright my mistake. However if they are actually putting full focus on Zelda U/NX there then that better be the best game they've ever made in order to keep people interested. Also since they aren't doing a Digital Event could that mean they'd actually be there this time around?
WHY IN THE WORLD DID EVERYONE FORGET THAT THEY DO DIRECTS NOW, GEEZ!
Doesn't mean there wont be a direct that month.
Nintendo hasn't had a big presence at E3 for a few years now. If they want to be the ones who control the flow and release of their info, the best way to do that is to schedule Directs, etc. so no one outside the people involved know what's up.
Did they announce they're doing a Direct?
Nintendo stopped bothering with E3 a long time ago, so that's nothing new. But they replaced it with a heavy loaded Direct. I haven't seen the announcement that they're doing a Direct yet.
>>26174680
This thread is BECAUSE it's confirmed there won't be a direct.
The assumption was that Zelda was the only playable game, bu they would show others in a direct.
Now we know: No, it really is just Zelda. Both playable and shown.
>>26174705
>Confirmed
Where?
But Mr Masuda told us, he will be there: https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/698658447139581952
>>26174734
>if hes gonna be there that means they have to show Pokemon!
No it means he's going to be at E3.
>>26174734
>everywhere masuda goes is for pokemon news, HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO EVENTS WITHOUT SHOWING POKEMON STUFF OR REVEALING POKEMON INFO
fuck off
>>26174469
>focus means only
Please /vp/, please.
Use common sense for once.
>>26174762
Common Sense is depressingly rare.
>>26174705
They can still do a Direct before or even after E3 to show off games they'll be releasing for the rest of the year. Nothing is saying they can't do that.
>>26174391
is there going to be a nintendo world championships this year?
they might do a 1 on 1 battle or something using some new pokemon.
they revealed a new shitty non-2D metroid that way
>Some of the devs like Activision bailing out
>No Digital Event
>Only focusing on ONE game that won't come out until next march.
>no NX news either.
What's left to look forward to for this shit event?
>>26174825
The rest of the Nintendo announcements?
I mean, come on, do you honestly think that Zelda's the only thing they'll be talking about?
The only reason it's taking the top spot is because it's an NX title as well. It's literally the only thing we know about the NX.
In this situation we might get to July with only region name and box legends. That's just fucking nothing.
>>26174431
>they couldn't
They can.
>>26174857
>That's just fucking nothing
I WOULD KILL TO KNOW REGION NAME AND BOX LEGENDS.
WHEN WAS THAT "NOTHING", ANON SMEPAI?
>>26174876
They can't since it's in 3DS.
They can't allow to ignore this game, otherwise nobody will buy it.
>>26174896
It's Pokemon.
On the year of the anniversary.
It's going to sell gangbusters.
>>26174896
>They can't
They can.
They SHOULDN'T, but they can. They're well within the means to withhold information if they want to, even if it would be a bad decision.
>>26174911
>even if it would be a bad decision.
You say that but the lack of information has kept it a topic for discussion in a lot of places.
And as they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
>>26174911
Hope it doesn't mean we will get Silhouettes this month, and next month the actual thing
>people whining over lack of game news
>said game comes out in 5 months
stop whining you impatient little toads, it's not like Game Freak isn't allowed to reveal new shit outside Directs and Corocoro. We're going to have enough information to last on until the games come out.
>''hurr lack of news is poor marketing''
So a game that's being continuously discussed, theorized, and hyped just for existing, in the second most profitable vidya franchise ever, is being poorly marketed? Like you're going to fucking pass up the first 7th gen Pokemon game.
Pokemon like Sylveon, M-Mewtwo Y, and others have been revealed out of the blue by Game Freak, and the same thing is likely to happen this year. They're an international company, not a super secret club.
>>26174547
doesn't say may 2016. Could be 2017.
>>26175020
>So a game that's being continuously discussed, theorized, and hyped just for existing, in the second most profitable vidya franchise ever, is being poorly marketed? Like you're going to fucking pass up the first 7th gen Pokemon game.
These are people that don't know the first thing about marketing.
Would everyone just calm down?
They aren't leaking the game because there is nothing to leak. They aren't finished. They are still making the game right now.
Judging from Nintendo's recent decisions, S&M will get pushed back into 2017 easily.
We want a QUALITY game not the swill that was ORAS
>>26175102
No they are not. The game is finished.
>>26175102
>The "They just got started onSun and Moon yesterday" meme again
>>26175020
>Like you're going to fucking pass up the first 7th gen Pokemon game.
Well I have CFW now so I have no reason not to play it even if it's shit, but before I had CFW, I was prepared to skip the games if they were shit. I got ripped off twice with XY and ORAS, why would I risk it a third time unless there was some big consensus on /vp/ that the games were good and not nearly as bad as Gen VI?
>>26175102
>THEY'RE JUST MAKING THE GAME
>EVEN THOUGH THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE ALREADY IN PRE-PRODUCTION WITH X AND Y'S RELEASE
>AND TOOK A YEAR OFF TO MAKE IT
Will this meme die already?
>>26175102
>They aren't finished. They are still making the game right now.
>being this retarded
>>26175102
Hey /v/ what are ye doin in /vp/ ?
>>26174538
>vp's
What are you talking about anon?
>>26175113
>>26175114
>>26175118
>>26175121
>>26175154
woah, wtf, I haven't paid attention since the announcement. Is this a meme with you people? If it was finished, they would tease more about it. The fact that they had Zygarde Perfect-Forme in the anime or movie or whatever means something behind the scenes got really fucked up.
They announced that they are working on the next pokemon game during the 20th anniversary celebration. It was more of a "we're still going" announcement than ANYTHING about the game. I don't think it's anywhere near complete at this point.
>>26175173
whatever you say /v/tard
>>26174391
>Zelda is the only game both playable AND shown.
>AND shown
Yeah, okay OP. Totally.
>>26175173
Here's another (You)
>>26175173
>If it was finished, they would tease more about it.
Stop being so retarded.
That's the last thing they'd want to do to keep interest in the game.
>>26175173
...Do...do you know anything about game design and the company they work for, Anon?
That's not how it works. If they were "just making it", it would be early 2017. You literally can't make a game for this amount of time and NOT HAVE IT BE SHIT.
Listen to yourself.
>>26175113
The game certainly isn't finished yet but anon's still an idiot, they're probably almost done at this point and getting ready for beta testing.
>>26175188
Anon, it's over. Read the thread, read the links, read the articles coming out. It's done.
>>26175195
>The game certainly isn't finished yet
The actual game has probably been done for a while now.
The marketing, cart production etc needs to be done now however.
>>26175193
>You literally can't make a game for this amount of time and NOT HAVE IT BE SHIT.
Considering how rushed ORAS was, it wouldn't surprised me if S&M got rushed and ended up shit.
>>26175222
The difference being that ORAS required less work considering the groundwork was already there between RSE and XY.
>>26175222
>Comparing remake with a mainline game
Yeah okay.
>>26175188
youre fucking stupid
>>26175237
>>26175238
They might put more work into a mainline game but GF doesn't seem like it wants to work at all so I could see them not putting adequate time into this either.
>>26175251
>but GF doesn't seem like it wants to work at all
And you're basing that on, what exactly?
A game that required a lot of new assets to be made and a remake made in a year?
>>26175263
It's the combination of Gen VI (I do acknowledge that they did waste a lot of time on Amie) and GF's general lackadaisical tone. Look at how little they've been promoting S&M, and look at shit like that meaningless, messageless 20th anniversary video that pretty much was "hey we exist!" except it cost millions to air at the Super Bowl.
>>26175251
...
Are you really letting XYORAS' shortcomings be your outlook for future games.
And are you really thinking that GF is going to not put time in. For the 20th anniversary. To a market that could chew them the fuck out if they do, even if kids still buy the games.
They're trolls, Anon, not lazy.
>>26175296
>Are you really letting XYORAS' shortcomings be your outlook for future games.
Masuda hinted in a tweet that he's directing this game, so yes.
>And are you really thinking that GF is going to not put time in. For the 20th anniversary.
Pokémon prints money no matter what they do.
>To a market that could chew them the fuck out if they do, even if kids still buy the games.
Game Freak gives literally zero shits about the older fanbase unless it's to sell Genwun merch to them.
>>26174391
good enough for me
>>26175315
You're baiting. You have to be honestly baiting.
Because you cannot be this hard headed.
>>26175323
Masuda has very clearly and directly stated he's making the games more casual without regard for older fans, and he's likely directing the next game so it's not unreasonable to expect his philosophy to be applied here.
And Game Freak has always been lazy. Even with their good games, they've always been one-step-forward-one-step-back regarding them adding well-liked features then removing them the next game.
Can you tell me what information we have that should make me more optimistic?
>>26175287
>and GF's general lackadaisical tone.
You are literally using a remake and their first venture into 3D gameplay as evidence of this. Are you honestly that retarded?
>Look at how little they've been promoting S&M
Yes and?
This is the norm anon. Just look at how many video game series haven't had ANYTHING since their announcement.
>>26175367
Anon, I don't feel like arguing this any longer, we're going in circles.
Gen VI is shit. It's unapologetically shit, just look at the interviews, they seem to consider these games to be quality if they aren't just putting up a facade for the press. This makes me not hopeful for Gen VII. If we get some information that can make me hopeful I might move into cautious optimism, but with us knowing absolutely nothing I expect the worst, and I think I'm perfectly justified in expecting the worst.
If you disagree then I respect your optimism, though I think you're setting yourself up for a fall.
>>26175323
He's not wrong actually. Why care of putting in effort when it'll sell regardless.
Besides Nintendo and their associates have been getting hounded hard as far as video games go for years now, and they still don't listen or give two shits because their main franchises still sell tons.
>>26175367
>>26175391
He's a different Anon, and to him, I'd say let it go. He's still going to buy everything regardless.
And I'm being realistic about this, which, you're letting your cynicism due the talking and ignoring logical choices here. GF is a lot of things, but bums they ain't. Everything you said could be said about any Generation and look at we're at now.
So, happy crying.
>>26175407
>and they still don't listen or give two shits
And yet their games still remain some of the most competent with very little issues compared to others.
Oh and you know what happens when you listen to fans?
You get fucking Sticker Star.
>>26175417
>He's still going to buy everything regardless.
Fair point, but it's still unbelievable that people think in such a way.
the fact we're not getting Sun/Moon news is the only thing bumming me about this. The existence of Sun/Moon is the only thing keeping me from bitching about the NX's late launch like everyone else.
>>26175222
>Considering how rushed ORAS was
I keep seeing so many people saying this but no one actually gives evidence to back up this claim, how exactly was ORAS rushed?
>>26175367
>this is the norm
Not really. A lot of games get a ton of attention, or at least some kind of trailer at announcement. Even the Last Guardian has had more advertising than SnM when it was officially announced.
When a game is hinted at, teased or rumored then yeah, it goes into limbo, or when there are development issues and set backs, but usually when a game is announced as happening there is a trailer or screenshots to get people interested. Pokémon got the logos and a wire frame bird.
Games not advertised tend to do poorly, even if they are amazing games, because people don't know they exist or don't see a reason to bother buying it. XY sold great, and there were a ton of ads and information shown about it. People also do get pissed when they don't get information, like with Ni-Oh or Legend of Zelda U, which can be damaging to the bottom line.
I know it's easier to make excuses for Nintendo's choices, but advertising is really important in business, hence why it's so expensive and plastered everywhere you look.
>>26175421
>And yet their games still remain some of the most competent
Game Freak are some of the most incompetent devs out there. They're shit at coding, they remove beloved features for no reasons, they exclusively go after kids most of the time despite the demographic getting older on average, they're shit devs who happen to sometimes make good games by chance.
>>26175417
>>26175432
Considering I didn't buy ORAS (borrowed a friend's copy to see if it was worth purchasing; it wasn't), and considering I can easily pirate it, I'm certainly not going to buy it if it's shit. If it's exceptionally good I might buy a copy as a gift for a friend or somesuch. I apologize if I sound like a fedorafag by repeatedly bringing up piracy in my posts, but I'm not going to give GF money for a shitty product, and I already chose not to with ORAS, even if I've played it twice due to other means than purchasing.
And if we suddenly got Gen V immediately after Diamond and Pearl with no Platinum or HGSS, I'd be similarly cynical. And if we got Black and White as the product identical to how it is I'd be pleasantly surprised, but I would not get my hopes up until then.
>>26175454
Interview in the official ORAS strategy guide. They stated the game had roughly one year of dev time, when most Pokémon games have two or more.
>>26175465
>Even the Last Guardian has had more advertising than SnM when it was officially announced.
I hope you're kidding because we have next to no information on TLG and it was announced 8 years ago for the PS3.
We don't even know when it'll be released or even a timeframe. The information for it is scarce.
Then there's shit like Horizon and FF7 remake where barely a peep has been heard since their announcement.
>Games not advertised tend to do poorly
Horribly wrong anon.
Advertisement =/= information
>>26175102
The games are FINISHED.
They already made the game, in 2014-2015. The only thing that's not finished is Pokenchi's showes, which they're recording now.
>>26175494
>Game Freak are some of the most incompetent devs out there.
And yet they're doing better work than a significant chunk of the industry, that should really tell you the dire times we're in.
Be honest here, you haven't paid a lick of attention to the industry as of late have you, even FromSoft is a shadow of their former selves in that regard.
>they remove beloved features for no reasons
You are aware that nearly every series does this right?
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>>26174431
>2 months of owl posters not getting banned
>>26175548
>Be honest here, you haven't paid a lick of attention to the industry as of late have you
I actually don't play many modern games, you're right. I mostly play older games since there are so many I haven't experienced and people have already cherrypicked the best ones. But if Gen VI is some of the best the industry can offer we really are in dire times.
>>26175494
>Interview in the official ORAS strategy guide. They stated the game had roughly one year of dev time, when most Pokémon games have two or more.
Is that really all? I thought it was pretty obvious they had developed ORAS within a year considering they had another team working on X and Y at the time. Plus it does make a lot of sense that they wouldn't spend two or more years working on them since they didn't need to make everything from the ground up, they already had the original layout of Hoenn to work with alongside all of its characters. Therefore all they really needed to do was make the models for everything and put them in the game. I just see a lot of people saying "ORAS was rushed as fuck" which makes it seem like they only worked on them for about a quarter of a year when that's simply not the case.
For someone who doesn't know, they're making games 2 years before the release. They said it.
BW2 was in work in June 2010, ORAS in November 2012. That's what Masuda said.
>>26175567
>But if Gen VI is some of the best the industry can offer we really are in dire times.
The worst part is that people are buying them just because of the graphics
>>26174762
Usually when they do stuff like this they put "look forward to _ and more" but there's no mention of more anywhere. If it's anything like their 2012 E3 conference, it will focus mainly on NX with Zelda being the only other major focus. We're screwed.
>>26175615
No NX in E3 though.
>>26174391
Oh gee! They REALLY want their 20th anniversary to be memorable and hype-worthy, don't they?
>>26175632
Just looked that up.... and I'm just... confused. Why they would never reveal news at a single E3 conference when it's coming in less than a year is just bizarre, especially for a console.
>>26175517
Advertising is information you numb nut.
Yeah, it was announced and was planned for release in 2011, but the game suffered from development complications and delays and hardware difficulties. It was reintroduced and planned for release in 2016.
Its not the norm to just not talk about or advertise games. TLG was reannounced with a trailer, which is more than sun and moon have to show.
We also know FF7 remake's battle system, have gotten trailers and screenshots, and that it will be multi parted. Horizon Zero Dawn also has gotten trailers, coverage of game play and game elements like real life weather, a start of the story, and that their excuse for no multiplayer is fuck you.
Releasing just the logos was a stupid move, but if you are going to make excuses at least fact check first.
>>26175575
Where did Masuda say ORAS began development in November 2012?
>>26174391
>rook it's zeruda see clacks inn warr? prace a bomb! so innovative!
Nintendo really has nothing. It's pathetic. Lets ignore how they, despite having nothing, cut out features to sell as amiibo
>>26174762
>>26174469
>where were you when nintendo was kill
Nintendo's been dead since the introduction of Amiibo. And Nintendo has been in coma long before that.
>>26175656
Nintendo doesn't care about e3 anymore. Like everybody just watches on yhe internet anyways now like any other event. They're having their own event for NX after e3.
>>26176420
>They're having their own event for NX after e3.
Nintendo Space World 2 when.
>>26176371
Nintendo's been dead since the introduction of the Wii U. Non-stop shitty uninteresting games, save for one or two decent games like Splatoon. The NX will be the final nail in the coffin unless they go against all forms of rational thought and actually pull off something interesting.
Wow, people actually defending Gamefreak ITT? I'm proud of you guys. Usually, whenever GF gets shit on, the posts are left alone. And it's a really awkward thing to do as a supposed Pokemon fan, anyway.
Sure, go ahead and critisise them with valid points, but to say that GF only ever fucks up is just retarded.
>>26176371
>>26176589
I, too, enjoy browsing /v/. This is /vp/ though, so easy there with the shitposting
>>26174391
>Zelda is the only game both playable AND shown.
It's the only thing people want to see for five years now.
Also the Retro game but that's too early.
Autistic whiners should shut up.
>>26176371
Indeed, they're also still recovering from the Mario Kart Wii sales which is the best selling exclusive game ever (sold more than GTA V on a specific console) and had the development cost of a mobile indie game.
Poor Nintendo.
>>26176589
>Non-stop shitty uninteresting games
>Mario Maker
>Bayonetta 2
>Smash 4
>Wonderful 101
>Uninteresting
Well Excuse (You)
>>26176629
>everyone with a different opinion is shitposting
how do you people live with yourself?
>>26176677
What are you even trying to say?
>>26176706
>Mario Maker
What's so interesting about a level editor with like 5% of what an actual level editor can do that doesn't have product placement?
>tr4sh
Not a child sorry
Speaking of Bayonetta 2. It's really pretty sad, due to being on WiiU it only has like 2 enemies on the screen at all times. I know this might be excluding a few areas. But come on.
>>26176589
Splatoon is lacking content. And has Amiibo. I can't take it seriously.
>>26176706
>Mario Maker
Literally just a bare-bones level editor. It has some fun mechanics that most other sorts of mario level editors online don't, but it's missing a massive amount of things, including slopes. Not to mention that 95% of levels online are absolute fucking trash, and all of the highest rated levels are just auto levels or music levels.
>Bayonetta 2
Might be interesting, but I don't like the genre. Beat-em-ups don't seem very fun.
>Smash 4
Unbalanced garbage.
>Wonderful 101
Boring single-player experience. I don't get why this game gets so much praise.
Even so, you only listed four games. Having four decent games doesn't make a console worthwhile. Literally every other Nintendo console besides the Virtual Boy had a better library.
>>26176758
You're not entirely wrong in saying that Splatoon lacks in content, but disliking Splatoon for having amiibo is just immature.
I feel like the main reason people think that amiibo is the cancer killing Nintendo is that they think that you're spending 12 bucks on really really shitty DLC, which you're not. You're spending 12 bucks for a figurine, which also happens to unlock stuff in games. As far as figurines go, 12 dollars for a decent one is an excellent price. Look at Funko Pop, for example; they look awful and are very cheaply made, and they're 15 bucks. amiibo, on the other hand, generally look pretty good. Tell me where else I'm gonna get an Olimar figurine- and for 12 bucks, no less. They're more about the figurines themselves, rather than the DLC that comes with them; hence why amiibo almost always just give you optional bonus things rather than completely new content.
>>26174391
ooh shit 1 day long shitty talk for Zelda with nerds IM OUT I WAIT FOR THE RELEASE
IM NOT GONNA WTACH NERDS PLAYING SO BAD SCRIPTED GAMES.. SHITTY THREEHOUSE.
>>26174391
>Nintendo's E3 is just gonna be Zelda shit
Can't wait for Nintendo to have the worst E3 presentation of all time.
>>26174391
>Zelda is the only game both playable AND shown
Nintendo needs to stop going full retard.
>>26177064
This is going to be even worse than 2008 if that's the case.
>No digital show
>No new games
>They promised us news for the NX last year but that's no longer happening
If Iwata was still around we'd have a better E3.
>>26176908
>but disliking Splatoon for having amiibo is just immature.
I don't dislike Splatoon for having Amiibo, but it having Amiibo makes me dislike it even more.
>you're spending 12 bucks on a figurine
Dude, like, I know what toys look like, and I know the right price for what quality. You can get much more for the price you pay. The build-quality price-ratio of Amiibo alone is insulting.
>the unlocking is a bonus
Marketing. Talk.
You're wrong. Nothing is a bonus when it comes to the product you pay for. It's exactly what you get. Nothing is free or a bonus.
>look at funko pop
Look at Disney Infinity. Or moreso, ask fucking /toy/. Because you're severely mistaken if you think the price quality ratio of Amiibo is fair.
>but wherelese will I get an Olimar figurine for 12 bucks or less
Why is this relevant at all? If you truly cared for toys. You'd care for their build quality. The price wouldn't matter.
AHHHH ALL THE /V/ IN THIS THREAD
>>26177102
Not really. He was the one alive when they made the shift towards NX internally and last year was shit. If you wonder why all their big devs have been so quite. It's because Iwata told them to move it all to NX. It's pretty much confirmed they're replacing both hardware with their new platform.
>>26175287
Pokemon games are almost never advertised.
http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-hosting-a-presentation-for-business-partners-at-e3-2016/
Don't loose hope yet boyos.
>>26174391
>No new DKC game
>more owlposting
