Had unofficial tierings not been Stall-pandering cukbois, would Torrent Gren still be at least somewhat as potent or just a halfway decent cleanup/spiker?
why do you care about unofficial tierings
>>26160938
Autism
>>26160924
If unofficial tierings weren't centered around stallfags Greninja wouldn't be fucking banned. (Which it shouldn't be)
>>26161063
Just look at Hoopa-U, something so easily dealt with gets axed & no one's batting an eye at Volcancerous. Mind you it just came out but people have known everything about it for years.
>>26160924
It probably would not be OU, it seems outclassed by Scolipede for Spikes and by Sharpedo for cleaning, and does not have any other niche I can easily see.